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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2011, 06:26:26 PM »
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I think it's notable that the majority of people saying it shouldn't count had not seen it live, and the majority of people who saw it live seemed to think it should count.

Of course, I was wrong and I retract that- it looks like a majority of *everyone* thinks it counts.  

A majority of EVERYONE.

Now that's what I call a bold unsubstantiated claim.


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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2011, 06:43:21 PM »
Yes it's a bloody song :D.
of course it is.


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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2011, 06:47:28 PM »
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Except that essentially no-one would say that U2 'opened' Popmart with Pop Muzik

And you would KNOW this how?




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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2011, 06:50:38 PM »
Dictionary.com...............

Song–noun

1.
a short metrical composition intended or adapted for singing,  especially one in rhymed stanzas; a lyric; a ballad.
2.
a musical piece adapted for singing  or simulating a piece to be sung: Mendelssohn's “Songs without Words.”
3.
poetical composition; poetry.
4.
the art or act of singing;  vocal music.
5.
something that is sung.
6.
an elaborate vocal signal produced by an animal, as the distinctive sounds produced by certain birds, frogs, etc., in a courtship or territorial display.

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2011, 06:51:48 PM »
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Except that essentially no-one would say that U2 'opened' Popmart with Pop Muzik

And you would KNOW this how?




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Of course they are going to credit a U2 composition.

What does that prove. ???

 

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2011, 06:53:57 PM »
That the premier u2 fansites- as well as u2.com - certainly don't seem to share your views in the slightest.

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2011, 06:54:55 PM »
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Except that essentially no-one would say that U2 'opened' Popmart with Pop Muzik and this poll pretty clearly indicates, however it may be phrased, that a majority of people would say that they do 'open' 360 with Stingray. :)

Isn't this all moot since they're not even playing it anymore (whatever "it" is)?

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2011, 06:57:55 PM »
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Except that essentially no-one would say that U2 'opened' Popmart with Pop Muzik

Well, to answer that question we will have to hear from people who attended those shows.  And for completeness, the same people should have attended a 360 show where Stingray was played in order to make the comparison.

If certain people say in a rather condescending way that one had to be at a show when Stingray was played to really know whether it was the *opener* or not, then presumably one would have to have been at a PopMart show to really know whether they considered Pop Muzik to be the opener, or Mofo.
 
For all intents and purposes Pop Muzik served the same purpose as Stingray in that it allowed Bono to prance around the stage uttering words such as "Mowfoe".

Some people might say that after the Pop Muzik intro U2 got down to business with Mofo, in much the same way as some people might say that U2 got down to business with Beautiful Day after the Stingray intro.

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and this poll pretty clearly indicates, however it may be phrased, that a majority of people would say that they do 'open' 360 with Stingray. :)

This poll doesn't ask that question.




I saw Popmart and 360 w/Stingray, and neither intros were songs, they were opening pieces giving the band a chance to get the audience excited before the real show started.

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2011, 06:58:13 PM »
Well, we have no idea how long it'll be gone for at this stage. :)

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2011, 07:02:54 PM »
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Except that essentially no-one would say that U2 'opened' Popmart with Pop Muzik

Well, to answer that question we will have to hear from people who attended those shows.  And for completeness, the same people should have attended a 360 show where Stingray was played in order to make the comparison.

If certain people say in a rather condescending way that one had to be at a show when Stingray was played to really know whether it was the *opener* or not, then presumably one would have to have been at a PopMart show to really know whether they considered Pop Muzik to be the opener, or Mofo.
 
For all intents and purposes Pop Muzik served the same purpose as Stingray in that it allowed Bono to prance around the stage uttering words such as "Mowfoe".

Some people might say that after the Pop Muzik intro U2 got down to business with Mofo, in much the same way as some people might say that U2 got down to business with Beautiful Day after the Stingray intro.

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and this poll pretty clearly indicates, however it may be phrased, that a majority of people would say that they do 'open' 360 with Stingray. :)

This poll doesn't ask that question.




I saw Popmart and 360 w/Stingray, and neither intros were songs, they were opening pieces giving the band a chance to get the audience excited before the real show started.

There!!!  Straight from the horses mouth.



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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2011, 07:04:32 PM »
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Well, we have no idea how long it'll be gone for at this stage. :)

Infinity is a great place to start.   :)




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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2011, 07:07:44 PM »
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There!!!  Straight from the horses mouth.



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...? O.o Yes indeed, the answer to a question only you considered to be important has arrived!  :D

For the record, that's cool to hear, Exile- you're honestly the first person who's actually seen Stingray live I've known to say that!   :)

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2011, 07:14:34 PM »
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...? O.o Yes indeed, the answer to a question only you considered to be important has arrived!  :D

For the record, that's cool to hear, Exile- you're honestly the first person who's actually seen Stingray live I've known to say that!   :)

Yes, and it's come in the form of somebody who attended both a Stingray/w360 show and PopMart show.  :)



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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2011, 07:16:11 PM »
But again, no-one but you was trying to make the Pop Muzik point OR the 'must have seen it live' point so it matters to no-one but you. Hell, if you want to use those criteria, BOTH my parents saw them both and both think Stingray is a song (To be precise, my mum looked at me as though I was slightly mad at the idea that it wasn't  :D ) but saw Popmart and realised that Pop Muzik was not. This doesn't seem to be hard for many other people except you.

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Re: Do You Believe "Return of the Stingray Guitar" Is A Song?
« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »
What can I say, I enjoy talking about PopMart because I'm bored out of my mind talking about the 360 circus.

Is there any U2 show that your dad or your mum didn't see?