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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2011, 01:35:28 PM »
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"I WILL NOT see U2 because I (don't) want...."

anything that follows the word "want" ("to see them in an arena" or "to see them in a stadium") results in a selfish sounding sentence.  You will not experience something as rare and as tremendous as seeing U2 live because YOU WANT it to be in a different venue, that screams selfishness to me.  You have been given an incredible opportunity but will not accept it because you want more.  Just be happy that you have the ability to see one of your favorite bands, if not you're favorite all together. 

How's that selfish? People have preferences and some people prefer not to see them play in a stadium. Maybe someone doesn't want to deal with the traffic, the amount of people, maybe they don't like the acoustics of a stadium, etc. Or, maybe, they don't want to have to travel to a stadium.

For instance; I wouldn't want to see U2 live if they happened to be playing in the middle of a landfill...that'd be a tad uncomfortable.

Don't be so presumptuous of people's character just because they choose not to see U2 in a setting that isn't comfortable to them.


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2011, 01:35:40 PM »
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They switched from arenas to stadiums on Zoo TV, played stadiums on Popmart, the JT Tour, and Vertigo for money grabbing reasons too I guess


Yes.


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2011, 01:51:58 PM »
"You have been given an incredible opportunity"

ummm, no.

The only 'opportunity' we have been 'given' is the option of making  a business transaction.

I don't like Eggplant.

I have the 'opportunity' to eat Eggplant most times I'm in a restaurant, but I choose not to eat it.

Selfish ? No.

It's no different when someone says they don't want to see U2 in a certain setting.

"it needs video screens for the far seats to see the band,"

Yeah, nothing wrong with stadium shows.........pay hundreds of dollars to watch TV


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2011, 02:09:22 PM »
I personally would like to see U2 regardless of where they play. I honestly don't understand the "I hate stadiums so I will skip my favourite band when they play there and wait several more years for the next tour" attitude but that's just me.

Not every country has state of the art arenas like US (who were the only ones to get arenas on Vertigo tour).

And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".




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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2011, 02:11:45 PM »
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.




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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.




This isn't really realistic.

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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2011, 02:13:41 PM »
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?



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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2011, 02:14:10 PM »
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.





It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2011, 02:15:05 PM »
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.

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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2011, 02:15:29 PM »
I think U2 should go back to the basics (like Joshua Tree tour, like Springsteen, like Pearl Jam). The music should be enough to carry them. Forget about the themes and the production. Does anybody really care about the 360 "space" theme?

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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2011, 02:20:56 PM »
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.

U2 have shown their willingness to shake up their set-lists and they played arenas and stadiums on Zoo TV and Vertigo as well as the JT tour.

If the Stones can do, then there's no reason why U2 can't, either.

The professional stage crew will do what they're paid to do.


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2011, 02:21:48 PM »
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2011, 02:22:11 PM »
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I think U2 should go back to the basics (like Joshua Tree tour, like Springsteen, like Pearl Jam). The music should be enough to carry them. Forget about the themes and the production. Does anybody really care about the 360 "space" theme?

They used a production on Zoo TV, Popmart, 360 and stadiums shows on Vertigo.

Very little production during the 80's shows. The trends are not in your favour.

And they already did back to basics with Elevation.


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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2011, 02:23:13 PM »
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.



Elevation was all arenas. Vertigo was all arenas in US.

Eventually, with 360, they were bound for another stadium run.

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Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2011, 02:26:18 PM »
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.



Elevation was all arenas. Vertigo was all arenas in US.

Eventually, with 360, they were bound for another stadium run.

Why were they bound for another stadium run for any other reason than money?

Elevation showed that U2 didn't mind playing a tour where ticket demand wasn't satisfied.