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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2012, 11:06:47 PM »
I am an American. My main point about their tour itinerary being stale is the simple fact that there are now two BILLION people in Asia. Thousands could benefit greatly by being exposed to the live experience that is U2 in that region.

So India? No excuses. The Police had their first gig there in the early 80's!

Malaysia? The same.

If U2 goes indoors on their next tour, there's no reason they couldn't play at the Indoor Stadium in Singapore.
They could also play in India in either stadiums or some of their larger indoor arenas.

If Lady Gaga can play in Seoul So. Korea, then U2 should be able to, and bring the house down.

This is a legendary global band supposedly.

So go truly global.

If the Singapore govt was complicit in the Burmese situation, then wonderful! Play in their backyard!

Bono is always going on about how he loved The Clash and all these bands with a punk attitude.

So bring it I say.

Do something bold and different. Stop just playing the safest markets. Mix it up. Take a risk.
No risk = no reward.
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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2012, 06:04:20 AM »
Is there demand for U2 in non-Japan Asian countries (not China since they played those Free Tibet shows in 1997) ? Specifically stadium shows as they usually travel those around the world rather than arena shows ?

There might be a thin line between costs/losing money and actually making profit in those places...they probably already drop the $$ by schlepping something like the Claw in S. America and Australia as it is. Obviously yes, they make good money with Popmart and onwards, it's just that anything non Europe/US costs more.








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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2012, 05:58:14 PM »
So I was curious to check out author Salman Rushdie because of U2. The first book I'm reading now is "East, West", now, I don't know if all of Rushdie's books are connected to India somewhat, but Bono is clearly a fan has has read many of Rushdie's works, so I imagine that Bono has some sore of understanding of Indian culture (maybe more than any other Asian country, possibly with the exception of Burmese political culture).

I guess my point is, the reason U2 has not played India is cetrainly not due to lack of awareness of their culture  ;D. Bono is deffo heavily influenced by Rushdie's words. Just look at "The Ground Beneath Her Feet", which is also a Rushdie title. I'm getting little inflections of Bono's lyrics as I read "East, West". For instance, phrases like "act of will" and "wild honey". I might be making too much of a connection to our dear Bono, but it's so cool to think that the stories I'm reading has probably been read by Bono himself.

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 03:39:00 AM »
Logistics, I imagine. U2's staging is huge and expensive, and takes a long time to ship anywhere by boat. Sometimes the band will lose money on playing shows - after PopMart, McGuinness decided to never play any show unless the band could make a profit. I'm sure there's a web page called "Why doesn't your band play my town?" Don#t see it as an affront to your country, it might not be practical for them to play there : some bands, such as Maiden, Metallica, etc. will only play shows if they can guarantee a certain amount of money and often scale down their staging, monsters and so on to make it economically viable. For example, if they were to play India, they might have to also line up 10 or 12 other shows in the regions to justify the initial cost. Wether they do one show or 110, the Claw cost the same to make and ship to the first show, it's only when they do lots of shows it becomes viable.

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2012, 05:51:57 PM »
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Logistics, I imagine. U2's staging is huge and expensive, and takes a long time to ship anywhere by boat. Sometimes the band will lose money on playing shows - after PopMart, McGuinness decided to never play any show unless the band could make a profit. I'm sure there's a web page called "Why doesn't your band play my town?" Don#t see it as an affront to your country, it might not be practical for them to play there : some bands, such as Maiden, Metallica, etc. will only play shows if they can guarantee a certain amount of money and often scale down their staging, monsters and so on to make it economically viable. For example, if they were to play India, they might have to also line up 10 or 12 other shows in the regions to justify the initial cost. Wether they do one show or 110, the Claw cost the same to make and ship to the first show, it's only when they do lots of shows it becomes viable.

I wouldn't mind if they played 4 shows each in say, Kuala Lumpur, Manila and Singapore to justify the cost of bringing the tour to Southeast Asia    ;D

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 06:58:15 PM »
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Logistics, I imagine. U2's staging is huge and expensive, and takes a long time to ship anywhere by boat. Sometimes the band will lose money on playing shows - after PopMart, McGuinness decided to never play any show unless the band could make a profit. I'm sure there's a web page called "Why doesn't your band play my town?" Don#t see it as an affront to your country, it might not be practical for them to play there : some bands, such as Maiden, Metallica, etc. will only play shows if they can guarantee a certain amount of money and often scale down their staging, monsters and so on to make it economically viable. For example, if they were to play India, they might have to also line up 10 or 12 other shows in the regions to justify the initial cost. Wether they do one show or 110, the Claw cost the same to make and ship to the first show, it's only when they do lots of shows it becomes viable.

I wouldn't mind if they played 4 shows each in say, Kuala Lumpur, Manila and Singapore to justify the cost of bringing the tour to Southeast Asia    ;D

Well if they do that, and play a greatest hits type show because they've never played there before, nobody better complain!  :D

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2012, 01:16:53 PM »
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Logistics, I imagine. U2's staging is huge and expensive, and takes a long time to ship anywhere by boat. Sometimes the band will lose money on playing shows - after PopMart, McGuinness decided to never play any show unless the band could make a profit. I'm sure there's a web page called "Why doesn't your band play my town?" Don#t see it as an affront to your country, it might not be practical for them to play there : some bands, such as Maiden, Metallica, etc. will only play shows if they can guarantee a certain amount of money and often scale down their staging, monsters and so on to make it economically viable. For example, if they were to play India, they might have to also line up 10 or 12 other shows in the regions to justify the initial cost. Wether they do one show or 110, the Claw cost the same to make and ship to the first show, it's only when they do lots of shows it becomes viable.

I wouldn't mind if they played 4 shows each in say, Kuala Lumpur, Manila and Singapore to justify the cost of bringing the tour to Southeast Asia    ;D

Well if they do that, and play a greatest hits type show because they've never played there before, nobody better complain!  :D

Only spoiled, jaded westerners who have watched them several times complain.
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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2012, 08:06:19 AM »
If the cost of moving the claw, or whatever we have next tour, is prohibitive...

THEN DON'T FLOWERING TAKE IT

Take guitars. Drums. Amps. Dallas. Get anything electronic from nearby taiwan.

Does anyone think U2 wouldn't sellout shows in these regions? The could price tickets according to the local market and put in place measures that make tickets accessible to local fans - direct selling to eliminate corruption.

They could even sell off a facebook share or 3 to cover costs if they wanted to go all out.

But it may just want to be that they hate hot weather, don't like eating chicken's feet, abhor China's stance on human rights, don't want to be away from their families in far off lands, or are just plain sick of mega tours.

Only they know I guess.

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2012, 06:22:12 PM »
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If the cost of moving the claw, or whatever we have next tour, is prohibitive...

THEN DON'T FLOWERING TAKE IT

Take guitars. Drums. Amps. Dallas. Get anything electronic from nearby taiwan.

Does anyone think U2 wouldn't sellout shows in these regions? The could price tickets according to the local market and put in place measures that make tickets accessible to local fans - direct selling to eliminate corruption.

YES.   I've been thinking that for the longest time.   If we wanted a lightshow and spaceship-type architecture (in Singapore at least), we've got our ridiculous downtown area.

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But it may just want to be that they hate hot weather, don't like eating chicken's feet, abhor China's stance on human rights, don't want to be away from their families in far off lands, or are just plain sick of mega tours.

Never mind China or even Burma, there are prisoners of conscience in Singapore too.   But I think we're finally starting to see change in Southeast Asia.   Besides the obvious like Daw Aung San Suu Kyi being sworn into parliament, there were the recent Bersih protests in Kuala Lumpur.   It would be so fantastic if U2 could play here and publicly show support for the brave men and women who are trying to change our hot and humid little, (benignly) fascist, tropical-islands corner of the world.

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2012, 06:57:54 PM »
Perhaps Bono is a huge fan of porn and chewing gum?

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 01:13:50 AM »
 Well, U2 may or may not eventually play certain third world countries in Asia, but what I think would be cool is if they played some States in the United States that they have never played before. Just do some small indoor arena shows in Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Arkansas, West Virginia, South Dakota, North Dakota, and Alaska. Logistically simple and it would not take much time.

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 06:28:03 AM »
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Perhaps Bono is a huge fan of porn and chewing gum?

I volunteer to show him around where in Singapore he can get those (if he's averse to online porn)   ;D

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 07:13:06 AM »
"third world countries in Asia"?  :o

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 08:30:37 AM »
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Perhaps Bono is a huge fan of porn and chewing gum?

I volunteer to show him around where in Singapore he can get those (if he's averse to online porn)   ;D

Orchard Towers FTW

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Re: U2's tour itinerary is stale
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2012, 09:36:24 AM »
^jtbaby, u from Sg as well ah? How about Liat Towers too?  :D

(don't mea to get side-tracked. I'm just in awe to find fellow countrymen on this diehard U2 fansite... during off-season. So are you, jtbaby?)