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Offline JTBaby

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2012, 09:40:09 AM »
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SUC is way better than people realise.

No.
It's worse.






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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #91 on: September 23, 2012, 09:41:28 AM »
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SUC is way better than people realise.

No.
It's worse.

I have to agree with this. Least favorite on NLOTH by far.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2012, 09:47:26 AM »
How could anyone like anything less than Unknown Caller? One of the very worst things U2 has ever written. An embarrassing dud on par with something like The Refugee.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2012, 09:52:11 AM »
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How could anyone like anything less than Unknown Caller? One of the very worst things U2 has ever written. An embarrassing dud on par with something like The Refugee.

Unknown caller has a discernible melody and chorus. Unlike SUC.

They both have godawful lyrics.




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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2012, 09:59:31 AM »
Unknown Caller does have a discernible melody: Walk On's.

I think Stand-Up Comedy is head and shoulders above Unknown Caller. At least it has music that isn't just lifted from an older hit of theirs, unlike UC and Boots.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2012, 10:00:10 AM »
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How could anyone like anything less than Unknown Caller? One of the very worst things U2 has ever written. An embarrassing dud on par with something like The Refugee.

Unknown caller has a discernible melody and chorus. Unlike SUC.

They both have godawful lyrics.

Yep.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2012, 08:51:41 AM »
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I concede that as they get better at the "craft" of writing, some of the "magic" might get lost but that is a different debate.

In what way, shape or form have U2 gotten better at the 'craft' of writing over the last fifteen years?


Via experience, of course.

Im going to disagree with the premise that the songwriting has gotten better over the years...IMHO Bono has always been hit or miss with lyrics regardless of era....

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2012, 10:14:59 AM »
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Unknown Caller does have a discernible melody: Walk On's.

I think Stand-Up Comedy is head and shoulders above Unknown Caller. At least it has music that isn't just lifted from an older hit of theirs, unlike UC and Boots.

The riff in UC is not lifted from Walk On - it's quite similar but by no means is it identical.  The intro's just 3 notes repeated and it's not even a riff, it's just for atmospherics. At the chorus the first 3 notes sound like an arpegio using some common notes from Walk On, but after that it's completely different. Given that the tune is at a much slower tempo and is an atmospheric piece, with unconventional lyrics and form, then it really doesn't share much with Walk On at all.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2012, 10:50:25 AM »
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SUC is way better than people realise.

Ya, agreed. I really don't understand why it gets so much hate.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #99 on: September 27, 2012, 02:02:57 PM »
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SUC is way better than people realise.

Ya, agreed. I really don't understand why it gets so much hate.


It's U2's most embarrassing track, for sure.
It's the lyrical low-point in U2's career.
It reaches the height of over-production.


"The DNA lotto may have left you smart"-- a far cry from the glory days. (Which sometimes reappear in songs such as Moment of Surrender).

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2012, 03:07:25 PM »
It is over-produced for sure. I do think it has some nice elements, but they're rather spliced together and cliched sounding. It seemed to be one of those songs they didn't know how to finish - didn't it have about half a dozen versions or something? I'd be interested to hear what the early versions sounded like.

I still find it more enjoyable than some of their more boring songs like A Man and a Woman, Peace on Earth etc, but in a throwaway sort of way.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #101 on: September 27, 2012, 03:12:41 PM »
I think its grown on me over time. Yes they produced various versions of the song and I'd love to hear the others, it was written somewhere that there was a better final version but they chose this one.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #102 on: September 30, 2012, 07:32:28 PM »
Hrmph, I like the lyrics for Stand Up Comedy, Bono at his self-deprecating best. The song would sound like its on fire performed live with backing female vocalists a la Lovetown. "Josephine be careful of small men with big ideas" -- love it, that is platinum-coated chrome rock rap my human friends!

And it's miles better than Unknown "Call Me, Maybe!" Caller!
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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2012, 03:09:41 PM »
Just a question...why does any discussion of NLOTH have to devolve into how much UC and SUC suck? If you're talking about their lyrical poeticism, need I remind you of the simplistic lyrics on Boy, October, and War? U2 have been using the same words and ideas for their whole career.  Count the time the words heart, soul, and love appear in their songs.  UC had an awesome lyrical concept and SUC was no worse than half the songs in their 2000s albums.  In fact it was kind of nice to hear Edge doing more bluesy for a change.  Not that it's a remote favorite, but jeez, can we stop beating on these song already? UCs lyrics and concept IMO are a billion times better than some dumb love song like Call Me Maybe, so don't even put those in the same sentence.

On with the original discussion.

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Re: g friday talks about new u2 album
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2012, 08:02:37 PM »
The lyrics to Unknown Caller are suppose to be trippy... God talking to someone thru their electronic devices.  I didn't like it at first, but it grew on me.  SUC is an over-produced mess.