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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #210 on: December 02, 2012, 01:29:09 PM »
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Not in the US they didn't.

They just hit the same metropolitan areas U2 did.



Coldplay have played far more cities on their recent tours than U2 have done.



Changing argument, but still wrong at least in the US.


Same argument and still right about the US.



Wrong.

Coldplay played 15 different metropolitan areas on their last tour.

U2 played 25.

As a whole, Mylo Xyloto tour was 86 shows, U2 360 110.



They only played fewer cities on the North American legs of the MX tour because they had a tight schedule.

Check out how many different cities they've played in North America on the previous two tours.

Changing argument AGAIN to some "tight schedule" nonsense ?

U2 played more North American shows on Vertigo than Coldplay did on Viva La Vida



Not changing any argument.  Same argument.

U2 could have played a stadium tour on the North American legs of the Vertigo too, if they chose to.  But Coldplay certainly played more different cities in out of the way places than U2 did on the Vertigo tour.  Had Coldplay chosen to, they could have played stadiums on the VLV tour and played fewer dates and in bigger cities.

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #211 on: December 02, 2012, 01:34:55 PM »
What the _ does playing "out of the way" places have to do with your point? "Out of the way" places, by definition, are "out of the way" because of either geographical isolation, low population density or both. No one is going to take Coldplay's stadium stage, much less something like the Claw, into an area like that unless they're intentionally trying to lose money.

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #212 on: December 02, 2012, 01:40:01 PM »
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What the _ does playing "out of the way" places have to do with your point? "Out of the way" places, by definition, are "out of the way" because of either geographical isolation, low population density or both. No one is going to take Coldplay's stadium stage, much less something like the Claw, into an area like that unless they're trying to lose money.

The point is that on the VLV tour Coldplay took their show to their fans.  But this inevitably means there will be less demand for tickets in these out of the way places, so they could have played fewer shows in stadiums in bigger geographical centers, and expected their fans to come to them instead.  These chose not to.


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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #213 on: December 02, 2012, 01:42:50 PM »
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Not in the US they didn't.

They just hit the same metropolitan areas U2 did.



Coldplay have played far more cities on their recent tours than U2 have done.



Changing argument, but still wrong at least in the US.


Same argument and still right about the US.



Wrong.

Coldplay played 15 different metropolitan areas on their last tour.

U2 played 25.

As a whole, Mylo Xyloto tour was 86 shows, U2 360 110.



They only played fewer cities on the North American legs of the MX tour because they had a tight schedule.

Check out how many different cities they've played in North America on the previous two tours.

Changing argument AGAIN to some "tight schedule" nonsense ?

U2 played more North American shows on Vertigo than Coldplay did on Viva La Vida



Not changing any argument.  Same argument.

U2 could have played a stadium tour on the North American legs of the Vertigo too, if they chose to.  But Coldplay certainly played more different cities in out of the way places than U2 did on the Vertigo tour.  Had Coldplay chosen to, they could have played stadiums on the VLV tour but played fewer dates and in bigger cities.



A bunch of speculation not borne out by any facts.

Typical.




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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #214 on: December 02, 2012, 01:44:46 PM »
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What the _ does playing "out of the way" places have to do with your point? "Out of the way" places, by definition, are "out of the way" because of either geographical isolation, low population density or both. No one is going to take Coldplay's stadium stage, much less something like the Claw, into an area like that unless they're trying to lose money.

The point is that on the VLV tour Coldplay took their show to their fans.  But this inevitably means there will be less demand for tickets in these out of the way places, so they could have played fewer shows in stadiums in bigger geographical centers, and expected their fans to come to them instead.  These chose not to.



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What the _ does playing "out of the way" places have to do with your point? "Out of the way" places, by definition, are "out of the way" because of either geographical isolation, low population density or both. No one is going to take Coldplay's stadium stage, much less something like the Claw, into an area like that unless they're intentionally trying to lose money.

Nor does Coldplay have the fanbase to get them to travel far distances to go see them in stadiums.

Laughable.

I'd say "if they could they would but they can't" but then i'd be reduced to silly TD-esque speculation.


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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #215 on: December 02, 2012, 01:45:30 PM »
TD, Coldplay have no idea whether tens of thousands of their fans will actually drive for hours to see them. If they ever seriously considered it, they looked at possible market stresses (like, for example, gas prices) and decided not to chance it. A wise choice, since, as others have pointed out, they weren't even selling out arenas in many US cities.

U2 had 3 North American stadium tours behind them before 360, so they know their fans will make the trip.
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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #216 on: December 02, 2012, 01:47:47 PM »
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Not in the US they didn't.

They just hit the same metropolitan areas U2 did.



Coldplay have played far more cities on their recent tours than U2 have done.



Changing argument, but still wrong at least in the US.


Same argument and still right about the US.



Wrong.

Coldplay played 15 different metropolitan areas on their last tour.

U2 played 25.

As a whole, Mylo Xyloto tour was 86 shows, U2 360 110.



They only played fewer cities on the North American legs of the MX tour because they had a tight schedule.

Check out how many different cities they've played in North America on the previous two tours.

Changing argument AGAIN to some "tight schedule" nonsense ?

U2 played more North American shows on Vertigo than Coldplay did on Viva La Vida



Not changing any argument.  Same argument.

U2 could have played a stadium tour on the North American legs of the Vertigo too, if they chose to.  But Coldplay certainly played more different cities in out of the way places than U2 did on the Vertigo tour.  Had Coldplay chosen to, they could have played stadiums on the VLV tour but played fewer dates and in bigger cities.



A bunch of speculation not borne out by any facts.

Typical.


The fact is Coldplay could have played stadiums and sold them out, or nearly sold them out, but chose not to.   That's what I said all along.

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #217 on: December 02, 2012, 01:50:24 PM »
The chose not to because they couldn't.


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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #218 on: December 02, 2012, 01:50:58 PM »
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TD, Coldplay have no idea whether tens of thousands of their fans will actually drive for hours to see them. If they ever seriously considered it, they looked at possible market stresses (like, for example, gas prices) and decided not to chance it. A wise choice, since, as others have pointed out, they weren't even selling out arenas in many US cities.

U2 had 3 North American stadium tours behind them before 360, so they know their fans will make the trip.

Coldplay are passionate lovers and so it's safe to say they would have made the trip, just like Prince fans from all over Europe travelled to London in 2007 to see their love interest.

 

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #219 on: December 02, 2012, 01:52:20 PM »
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The chose not to because they couldn't.

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #220 on: December 02, 2012, 01:53:51 PM »
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TD, Coldplay have no idea whether tens of thousands of their fans will actually drive for hours to see them. If they ever seriously considered it, they looked at possible market stresses (like, for example, gas prices) and decided not to chance it. A wise choice, since, as others have pointed out, they weren't even selling out arenas in many US cities.

U2 had 3 North American stadium tours behind them before 360, so they know their fans will make the trip.

Coldplay are passionate lovers and so it's safe to say they would have made the trip, just like Prince fans from all over Europe travelled to London in 2007 to see their love interest.

umm, no it's not the same at all. Euro fans' traveling circumstances are markedly different from what we face here in most of North America, never mind any other question of devotion.

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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #221 on: December 02, 2012, 02:03:29 PM »
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TD, Coldplay have no idea whether tens of thousands of their fans will actually drive for hours to see them. If they ever seriously considered it, they looked at possible market stresses (like, for example, gas prices) and decided not to chance it. A wise choice, since, as others have pointed out, they weren't even selling out arenas in many US cities.

U2 had 3 North American stadium tours behind them before 360, so they know their fans will make the trip.

Coldplay are passionate lovers and so it's safe to say they would have made the trip, just like Prince fans from all over Europe travelled to London in 2007 to see their love interest.

umm, no it's not the same at all. Euro fans' traveling circumstances are markedly different from what we face here in most of North America, never mind any other question of devotion.

You mean many Euro fans have to travel overseas, where as the vast majority of American fans don't?


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Re: U2 V Coldplay
« Reply #222 on: December 02, 2012, 02:17:29 PM »
I should have locked this thread when it began as how it would end was predetermined. Mission accomplished.