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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2014, 07:28:07 AM »
I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2014, 01:36:07 PM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2014, 01:48:30 PM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2014, 01:54:36 PM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The number of tickets sold does not in any way reflect how good the live show/act is.

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The Rolling Stones have sold more concert tickets than any other act in history.


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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2014, 04:26:47 PM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The Rolling Stones have sold more concert tickets than any other act in history.


I don't think there's anything definitive on that, but I would say it's probably true.

However, it's also true that the Rolling Stones are done, and if U2 continues to tour until they are in their 70's like Rolling Stones they will easily surpass the Rolling Stones figures.....

U2's figures are somewhere around 32-33 Million.

Early shows, 1978-1982 including festivals: 1,000,000+
WAR tour: Not well documented, including festivals somewhere north of 1,500,000+
Unforgettable Fire tour: Not well documented, probably 2,000,000+
Conspiracy of hope: 300,000
Joshua tree: 3,100,000
Lovetown: Not well documented, about 1,000,000
Zoo TV: 5,300,000
Popmart: 3,900,000
Elevation: 2,300,000
Vertigo: 4,600,000
360: 7,200,000

TOTAL: 32.1 Million

 and i'm sure the next tour will be another 5-6 million, so that puts them somewhere in the 37-38 million mark. As you can see from below data, Rolling Stones are at about 41 Million, so U2 would need one more tour after this one to overtake them on raw numbers. Of course, these numbers are sketchy at best.

Here's what I can find on Rolling Stones: The early stuff is very sketchy, assuming 15,000 average indoor show, 40,000 average outdoor show, could be way off.

1964 dates: No data, probably 500,000
1965 America/Europe tour: No data, probably 2,000,000
1966 Europe/US/UK tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1967 Europe Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1968 Hyde Park: varying estimates 300,000
1969 American Tour: No data, probably 500,000
1970 Europe tour, no data probably 600,000
1972 American/UK Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1973 Pacific Tour: No data, probably 200,000
1973 European tour: No data, probably 800,000
1975 American Tour: No data, probably 1,600,000
1976 European tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1978 American Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1981 Americna Tour: 3,000,000
1982 European Tour: No data, probably about 1,800,000
Steel wheels: 3,200,000
Voodoo Lounge: 6,300,000
Bridges to babylon: 4,000,000+ Not well documented
No Security: No data, probably about 1,000,000
Licks: 3,700,000
Bigger Bang: 4,600,000
50 and counting: 300,000+

TOTAL: 40.8 Million (Compares to U2's 32.1 Million)

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2014, 04:27:33 PM »
This is an interesting thread, but I'm one of the folks that voted no.

I've only seen U2 in four tours and I missed seeing the ZooTV tour, but I've seen more ebuliant or memorable performances by Queen, Bowie, Springsteen, Midnight Oil and arguably even Coldplay.

If I used the same criteria as other members, I might place U2 in a higher level, but to suggest that they're the greatest live act OF ALL TIME seems like too much of a stretch. Particularly if one considers bands like the Beatles, the Stones, the Clash and even INXS or Prince. Great yes, preeminent no. Be well. 

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2014, 05:10:00 PM »
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1964 dates: No data, probably 500,000
1965 America/Europe tour: No data, probably 2,000,000
1966 Europe/US/UK tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1967 Europe Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1968 Hyde Park: varying estimates 300,000
1969 American Tour: No data, probably 500,000
1970 Europe tour, no data probably 600,000
1972 American/UK Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1973 Pacific Tour: No data, probably 200,000
1973 European tour: No data, probably 800,000
1975 American Tour: No data, probably 1,600,000
1976 European tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1978 American Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000

These figures totally overestimate their ticket sales on those tours.


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1981 American Tour: 3,000,000
1982 European Tour: No data, probably about 1,800,000

Total for both tours was 3.8 Million

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Steel wheels: 3,200,000

Total for the Steel Wheels North American and Japanese tour + the Urban Jungle European Tour were 6 Million

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Voodoo Lounge: 6,300,000

Total was 6.6 Million

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Bridges to babylon: 4,000,000+ Not well documented

Total 4.75 Million

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No Security: No data, probably about 1,000,000

No Security North American arena tour + remaining 13 BTB European shows = 1.2 Million

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Licks: 3,700,000

3.2 Million

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Bigger Bang: 4,600,000

Accurate

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50 and counting: 300,000+

Underestimation


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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2014, 05:11:31 PM »
So you are all judging greatness by attendance numbers.

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2014, 05:23:33 PM »
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So you are all judging greatness by attendance numbers.

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Not at all, but it shouldn't really come as a surprise that the two greatest bands of all time (which have consistently toured over decades, so not including The Beatles or Led Zeppelin) have sold the most concert tickets.


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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2014, 05:56:27 PM »
I voted no, mostly because of one single word.

"The"

Are they one of the greatest live music acts of all time? Sure. Especially their shows from the Joshua Tree tour to Elevation. Zoo Tv and Popmart were revolutionary in terms of the live concert experience, and still are.

Are they The greatest live music act of all time? No, because I feel like there isn't a single band who should hold that title on their own.

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2014, 06:01:45 PM »
Yeah, that "the" belongs to maniacs.

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2014, 06:19:35 PM »
You should see me on the dancefloor.


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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2014, 03:48:20 AM »
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The number of tickets sold does not in any way reflect how good the live show/act is.
lol now i cant agree with that...thats like saying the sales of coke as a drink can not in any way reflect the popularity of the drink over 100 years...i dont see how u can use any other measure but time at the top and sales after that its just down to personal opinion.....i may not like coke but i cant argue as a drink with those world sales figures . its been a world hit ..TD is also correct the stones have over time sold more tickets than anyone so they  for the exact same reason would be among the best live acts ever.although i would expect  over time if u2 keep going they will overtake them

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Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2014, 04:04:29 AM »
Like I said before, it's all subjective.  One person's greatest show is another person's worse show.  You cannot prove an opinion.  Does U2 have millions of fans?  Yes.  So does Iron Maiden whose fans would argue they are the greatest live act ever.  There are those who would think Nickelback are the greatest live act ever.  If U2 toured every single year, and hit smaller markets, it could be a different story.

The three U2 shows I've been to, one was awful, one was phenomenal and the other was okay.