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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2015, 01:40:38 AM »
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U2 fans were not complaining when R & H was released.

It was quick follow up, with some good songs that were not radically different to TJT. Together with live tracks and a film.

The critics criticised it, but after non stop praise, perhaps it was time for a backlash.

The crazy thing is that the criticism was against everything but the songs which more than held their own.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2015, 02:42:15 AM »
Does anyone know when it was recorded ?

During TJT tour, or during a break in touring. Or both.

Edge said in 1987 that writing new songs doesn't stop when touring starts. Dunphy's book also says U2 listen to tapes of live shows to see if there is anything they can develop into new songs.

Anyway, R & H and Zooropa are quality albums released in the middle of tours. Something no other big band has done since.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2015, 06:29:02 AM »
There was no real backlash after the release of Rattle and Hum.  A mix of some bad and lukewarm reviews, maybe.  Desire was the last time a U2 single saw the Top 5 in America and even Angel of Harlem was a hit.

I'm glad they mixed the new songs and live tracks together.  I'm not sure the new tracks make sense as a separate album.  Recorded at different times during after the JT Tours, the clusters of new tracks feel like separate EPs with the live tracks dividing the new material.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2015, 07:24:09 AM »
Two or three more good songs and R & H could have been released as a straight studio album.

It would have been a good quickie follow up to TJT and added juice to the tour.

A live album and R & H type film could have been released in 1990 after the tour finished. It would have kept the fans happy until the November 1991 release of AB. The only problem would be if U2 had to get involved in publicising this. Meaning they would get side tracked from recording AB.
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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2015, 08:01:53 AM »
nah, the playlist i've and others have posted could of worked perfectly fine as an album. and ANYTHING the released after JT would of been blasted for not being as good. R&H was just a different type of americana sound.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2015, 09:01:56 AM »
My view is it wasn't strong enough. Which is why the new songs were merged with live tracks and a film came out. This together with U2's continued touring and their post JT hugeness deflected from the new songs. However, still some good new songs.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2015, 12:53:55 PM »
They totally bolloxed up R+H.

In retrospect, they would have been better as two separate releases.

1. "The Howling Wind" : Live 1987, released June 1988.

Where The Streets Have No Name
In God's Country
All Along The Watchtower
I Still Haven't Found
Silver And Gold
Helter Skelter
Exit / Gloria
Bad
MLK
With Or Without You
Bullet The Blue Sky
Running To Stand Still
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Pride

2. "Rattle And Hum", film, as is, released October 1988.

3. "Rattle And Hum". Released 3 weeks after the film.

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Desire
God Part II
Heartland
Love Rescue Me
Sweet Fire Of Love
Angel Of Harlem
When Love Comes To Town
A Room At The Heartbreak Hotel
Hallelujah Here She Comes
Van Diemens Land
All I Want is You

Singles :

Desire / Testimony / Desire (Remix) / Testimony (Remix)
Angel Of Harlem / Desire (Demo) / Angel Of Harlem (Demo) / Love Rescue Me (Live)
When Love Comes To Town / God Part II (Remix) / When Love Comes To Town (Remix) / Dancing Barefoot
All I Want Is You / When Love Comes To Town (Demo) / Everlasting Love / Unchained Melody

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2015, 12:36:28 AM »
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They totally bolloxed up R+H.

In retrospect, they would have been better as two separate releases.

1. "The Howling Wind" : Live 1987, released June 1988.

Where The Streets Have No Name
In God's Country
All Along The Watchtower
I Still Haven't Found
Silver And Gold
Helter Skelter
Exit / Gloria
Bad
MLK
With Or Without You
Bullet The Blue Sky
Running To Stand Still
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Pride

2. "Rattle And Hum", film, as is, released October 1988.

3. "Rattle And Hum". Released 3 weeks after the film.

Hawkmoon 269
Desire
God Part II
Heartland
Love Rescue Me
Sweet Fire Of Love
Angel Of Harlem
When Love Comes To Town
A Room At The Heartbreak Hotel
Hallelujah Here She Comes
Van Diemens Land
All I Want is You

Singles :

Desire / Testimony / Desire (Remix) / Testimony (Remix)
Angel Of Harlem / Desire (Demo) / Angel Of Harlem (Demo) / Love Rescue Me (Live)
When Love Comes To Town / God Part II (Remix) / When Love Comes To Town (Remix) / Dancing Barefoot
All I Want Is You / When Love Comes To Town (Demo) / Everlasting Love / Unchained Melody

That actually would have been great the only thing(s) I would change is
1.  For the Live albums I would have the songs sequenced the way the set list actually was during the 87 tour.
2. The band should have included their versions of She's a mystery to me and Slow Dancing in the studio release.
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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2015, 12:45:35 AM »
maybe well get those 2 demos if they ever release a CD set. in addition to the playlist i use i have one including the film performances that arent on the album

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2015, 05:36:56 PM »
 Rattle in hum is my favorite album,I liked the live mixed with the album.Great songs.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2015, 07:04:56 PM »
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Rattle in hum is my favorite album,I liked the live mixed with the album.Great songs.

I don't think anyone here is denying that RH is a great record its just some of us prefer
to listen to it in an alternative way .
I agree with you 100% the songs are great !

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Does anyone know when it was recorded ?

During TJT tour, or during a break in touring. Or both.

Edge said in 1987 that writing new songs doesn't stop when touring starts. Dunphy's book also says U2 listen to tapes of live shows to see if there is anything they can develop into new songs.

Anyway, R & H and Zooropa are quality albums released in the middle of tours. Something no other big band has done since.

The bulk of the material was recorded during the tour Bono wanted to catch their fire n a bottle , Sun studio's , Los Angeles , Hotel rooms anywhere they could record they finished it up shortly after the tour ended in 87 and released it the following year .
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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2015, 08:04:53 PM »
Interesting reading all these posts and alt track lists. Loved and love this record. The studio tracks kill and the live cuts speak for themselves.

I tend to think of U2's releases in threes ... Boy, October, War... Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Rattle & Hum ... Achtung Baby, Zooropa, Pop ...  ATYCLN, HTDAAB, NLOTH ... For me, Rattle & Hum was a fantastic ending to what was realized on UF and perfected on JT ... plus, it paved the way for Achtung Baby.

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2015, 08:25:45 PM »
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Interesting reading all these posts and alt track lists. Loved and love this record. The studio tracks kill and the live cuts speak for themselves.

I tend to think of U2's releases in threes ... Boy, October, War... Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Rattle & Hum ... Achtung Baby, Zooropa, Pop ...  ATYCLN, HTDAAB, NLOTH ... For me, Rattle & Hum was a fantastic ending to what was realized on UF and perfected on JT ... plus, it paved the way for Achtung Baby.

Spider M ,
You hit the nail on the head here's a thread you might enjoy . :)
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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2015, 08:38:41 PM »
HOLY CRAP! Sweet Fire of Love was GREATNESS!

BUT!

does my playlist have room for two duets? And this is a LONG one too!

Testimony is okay but wouldn't fit on the playlist at all. Very 80's vibe i do love though!

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Re: Rattle & No Hum
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2015, 08:42:30 PM »
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HOLY CRAP! Sweet Fire of Love was GREATNESS!

Haha, can't believe you'd never heard of it. I heard Bono mention it in a KROQ interview back in '87 and immediately went out and bought the cassette tape.

Whole album's good, actually. "Somewhere Down that Crazy River" is brilliant.