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Offline TheFly1991

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U2 Montreal Rant!
« on: June 18, 2015, 06:24:24 AM »
I’m a huge u2 fan (although I don’t come here often or go to concerts all over the world – budget restrictions).

Yesterday was my 7th concert and by far my least favorite!

Altough I have nothing against the choice of songs and their interpretations, I do think that the design stinks!

First of all, not sure who to blame for this (U2 team or Evenko) but when I bought the tickets online when they were first available I made sure the stage was facing me, at the other end of the rink. That was where section 107 was and was expecting this. But when I got there yesterday I was in the back of it! First strike! (I am not the only knowing we got screwed, the people behind me also complained they had purchased tickets for front facing stage!)

Being in the back, pretty much down in the middle, the big screen over the catwalk was pretty much useless to us! We couldn’t see anything on it! It wasn’t rotating (why not?)!

But it was going lower though! Result: when the band or member was on the catwalk or on the smaller stage, we couldn’t see anything! That screen was blocking our view! Not live not the images on the screen!

The only small screen attached to the top was neither the same thing nor the complete thing (wasn’t showing the stars on the screen, just Bono for example). And filming the main screen is not the same thing. If I wanted to watch the concert on tv I would have waited for the Bluray …and I may do this next time!

And when the band was in the screen itself, well you guessed it, I wasn’t seeing anything at all!

And being in the back of the stage, I was expecting the band members (except perhaps Larry) to turn and face us more often (I was behind in 360 and they turned around much more often).

My other 6 concerts were much more fun and emotional. Not as much yesterday. No other concert that I can remember (popmart, Elevation, Vertigo, 360) where there was “blind spots” and where you could not see the screen(s). Sure some may have been “bad angles” (popmart). But no angle at all? And to block the musicians all together?

No I am sorry, and regardless of the reviews, obviously they didn’t consider all the customers/fans (and I didn’t pay a reduced price for less of a show than other fans). I will reconsider next time before spending my hard-earned money on a U2 concert that I feel was less than ideal!

P.S. I understand that most of you will have enjoyed the show and will defend this concept/design but for me (and others), you must understand that this was simply not acceptable as a design. I was left in the cold and I don’t think they care much! Seriously, didn’t they catch that some concertgoers wouldn’t see the screen and even get blocked by it? They did catch this but went ahead with this anyway!



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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 06:34:01 AM »
It's a point a few have raised - but one that for whatever reason is being largely ignored by the masses.

To my mind it's incredibly poor show design, mixed in with a bit of greed (wanting to sell every seat)

How they can c*** up so badly in an arena is beyond me - to have a screen as pretty much the centre point of the show and one they are making a big noise about how great it is and how central to the narrative of this show it is, and not have it visible to a good chunk of the audience and worse still to have that screen that people can't see actually block their view of the band is just not on.

I am surprised it isn't a subject that is being talked about a lot more - it's either just plain disregard on the part of the band and show designers or they have just totally dropped the ball trying to be too clever, you can't tell me experienced show designers and the band couldn't have thought "hang on a mo, this screen is not visible and is blocking peoples views" I can imagine it can't be highly visible for many on the floor as well.

I have read they have been moving people so maybe there is some recognition/holding up of hands....This really should have been thought of beforehand.

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 07:53:56 AM »
Thanks for backing me up on this. I knew I couldn’t have been alone thinking this.

I agree with you completely on this one….a bit a greed with poor design

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 08:33:30 AM »
100% agreed. I don't feel bad for people on the floor - when you go GA, you expect to sacrifice some of the screen etc to be closer to the band - or at least you should, that's true of most bands and most shows. But it's disgraceful to have some seats with such obstructed views and *no warning*. The switcheroo they've pulled of front and back (Which seems to be happening at every venue) is really not acceptable.

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 08:45:05 AM »
I'd blame Ticketmasterbater (again) or where ever you purchased the tickets originally showing the stage seating chart. A lot of places, including LA where I was and where I thought I was sitting, they originally had the stage set up wrong during the original sales of tickets. I wasn't to happy either but they turned out ok as I was in an angle right behind the Edge and able to see the video screen. It's happened to other venues too. In LA by show 3 TM changed the seating chart to the correct way!!! In the middle of the tour!!! What a farce!!!! TM so blows.

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 09:01:57 AM »
Sorry you were victim of a really bad stage setup and design. As nice as it is, there is no reason for the seats like that to cost the same as other seats, and in fact, there is no reason for those tickets to not say obstructed view on them.

Ticketmaster and U2's Camp should have agreed to sell those tickets at very low prices to whoever that wanted them, not trick fans into thinking they would get good views and give them jack squat.

It's ridiculous.

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 09:09:49 AM »
Well... From your description it looks exactly like the tickets I got... I have to say I am anxious about it. To me there 2 BIG problems that occured :
1-The seating chart was wrong, not clearly indicating where the stages or what the stages were, so you had no idea what you were purchasing.
2-It doesn't say "restricted view" on those tickets, when it clearly is !
I hope  can get another option until november but chances are slim.

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 09:28:37 AM »
I hear ya. I had a very similar experience for Vancouver 1. My friends and I were in a box in the end zone (E-Stage side) and once the screen came down after the first 4 songs we couldn't see anything. We couldn't see the band and we couldn't see the screen. It was ridiculous. You pay good money to see the band and we end up seeing nothing.

SOI was by far the worst U2 show I've seen (been to multiple shows each tour since Zoo TV) and was probably the most disappointing concert experience of my life and i've seen hundreds of shows. It left such a bad taste in my mouth (and friends) that 4 of us had planned on getting tickets from scalpers for night 2 and we decided to stay home, which is something I never ever would have thought I'd do: purposely skip a U2 show 10 minutes away from my house. 

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 09:41:23 AM »
It is disappointing to hear especially for loyal fans who stick by the band through good & bad.

I've not seen the tour yet (but have tickets for the London / Glasgow shows) but knowing how meticulous the band are about things like this, I would have thought this would have been evident fairly early on in the process.

The question then is why did they proceed without warning some fans may have restrictions?

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 09:49:34 AM »
I'm worried, I think the band could get hurt on this tour...the stage is coming down and Bono is right under it. There's scenarios in the show (and I've been 2) which could almost seem dangerous. I'm not talking about the screen coming down on anyone (I don't think it's really would ever happen)

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2015, 09:50:20 AM »
I just read a letter from the promoter of Fare Thee Well tour and the promoter is guaranteeing show to folks who bought tickets that were changed do to creating more tickets. Some folks thought they were buying seats on floor which is now GA in back of Pit etc. He said in letter if you are disappointed with your seats or show they will refund you money in full after the show. Now that is unique in music business.

Bummer about the seating charts etc and wish that TM or Band would make it right for fans who didn't find what they were looking for as seating chart being flipped etc. I know some of the seats with obstructed view were priced cheaper but not sure it told u at time of purchase it was limited.

Anyone thought how this show would work in Stadium? Will they be able to pull it off if that is what they plan next year?

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 09:52:37 AM »
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Bummer about the seating charts etc and wish that TM or Band would make it right for fans who didn't find what they were looking for as seating chart being flipped etc. I know some of the seats with obstructed view were priced cheaper but not sure it told u at time of purchase it was limited.

That's what I'm wondering too. Were only some tickets printed with saying "obstructed view" on them or did it come later on as the dates got closer?

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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2015, 10:39:13 AM »
I had a similar experience in Montreal 2 (in the 400's, the view and the sound were greatly obstructed by the press box). I think it's totally Evenko's fault for not showing the right stage setup and for ommiting to say that the view was blocked.

It's true that the design is quite bad, but it's almost fraud from Evenko to sell bad seats without warning. I sent a letter to Evenko explaining the situation and asking for a refund, and I think you should do the same...

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Were only some tickets printed with saying "obstructed view" on them or did it come later on as the dates got closer?

After my show, I wondered the same thing and checked on the Evenko website. The seats where I was were cheaper, because of the obstructed view I guess. But when I bought them on the release date they were definitely the same price as the other ones.
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Re: U2 Montreal Rant!
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 10:45:11 AM »
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I'd blame Ticketmasterbater (again) or where ever you purchased the tickets originally showing the stage seating chart. A lot of places, including LA where I was and where I thought I was sitting, they originally had the stage set up wrong during the original sales of tickets. I wasn't to happy either but they turned out ok as I was in an angle right behind the Edge and able to see the video screen. It's happened to other venues too. In LA by show 3 TM changed the seating chart to the correct way!!! In the middle of the tour!!! What a farce!!!! TM so blows.

Surely TM rely on the promoters and show organisers for things like which way the stage sits etc

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 10:51:08 AM »
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I just read a letter from the promoter of Fare Thee Well tour and the promoter is guaranteeing show to folks who bought tickets that were changed do to creating more tickets. Some folks thought they were buying seats on floor which is now GA in back of Pit etc. He said in letter if you are disappointed with your seats or show they will refund you money in full after the show. Now that is unique in music business.

Bummer about the seating charts etc and wish that TM or Band would make it right for fans who didn't find what they were looking for as seating chart being flipped etc. I know some of the seats with obstructed view were priced cheaper but not sure it told u at time of purchase it was limited.

Anyone thought how this show would work in Stadium? Will they be able to pull it off if that is what they plan next year?

If they wanted to do it in a stadium everything would have to be proportionally bigger to make it work otherwise they risk having even more bad views.

They would also have to not sell the head on tickets and of course the sound system would need to be re-thought.

In my view they would be much better off in a stadium with a normal end stage (give up selling the seats behind, u2 you don't need the cash) with the screen behind them working it's magic, don't have it on for the first songs....they could still have the runway and b stage, just make the runway bigger and the b stage bigger. They could still go in the screen just enter it from the side.

For all the supposed 360 was in the round in a stadium it really wasn't a lot of the time, it was stuck at one end of the stadium like a normal show, yes people sat behind it but they didn't really play to those people that much.
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