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Offline Fastcars12

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 04:19:21 PM »
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I knew that obtaining membership almost guaranteed tickets or at the very least gave me more of a chance to get standing tickets. I'm glad I paid it and it was totally worth it. And I get a free gift!

I have to agree. While I empathize and agree with the OP, $50 a year is so worth not having to deal scalpers, touts or whatever you want to call them. Because of the fan club pre-sales, I've had front row (or close to it) to at least one show on every tour since Elevation. Haven't dealt with a general sale since the Zoo TV days. I'm lucky I even got in to that one.   
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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2017, 04:22:48 PM »
The only way of truly guaranteeing a ticket is to be a long term subscriber.

I have to say obtaining tickets as a wire member was a nightmare but after 30 mins of drama I got 4 GA tickets. I was fortunate but having the membership definitely
Improved my chances if I had gone on general sale I'd have had little chance of success.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2017, 06:45:41 AM »
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What's cheaper, membership + list price or ticket or stubhub/get me in/scalper price?

U2.com worth the price?

I think so.


It's all a big racket between U2/Live Nation/Ticketmaster designed to squeeze as much money out of punters as possible. As Eamon Dunphy said they are a 'ruthless money making corporation'.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2017, 07:51:36 AM »
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These was not on TM earlier been checking if any 1s wanting to spend

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2017, 07:53:08 AM »
Just keep perspective: for every U2, REM (formerly), Pearl Jam and Tom Petty that have a fan club presale, there are acts -- Bruce Springsteen -- who don't whose fans look jealously at what U2 does.

Here's the thing, y'all, and here's what you have to keep in mind: Ticketmaster has ZERO motivation to do anything better. None. Did you see what happened yesterday? The European tour sold out in a matter of hours. That's the bottom-line for TM. They offer tickets to sell, and they sell them. There's no problem as far as they are concerned. That's what a monopoly looks like. Remember 20 years ago when Pearl Jam tried to do their own thing and do an end-around TM? It didn't work, but God bless them for trying.

Touring is a MASSIVELY complicated undertaking. U2 sets their fee. We will play X number of shows for X amount of money. Then TM/LN, the promoters and the venues add in their take. Every hand that goes into the cookie jar adds a price to the ticket. And as for the tickets themselves, you have more people going for the product than their is product available.  Remember also that music sales aren't what they used to be. Look at aging acts like Def Leppard and Poison who are going out this summer. No one buys new Def Leppard albums. Everyone who wants Pyromania and Hysteria either already bought it or will stream it or listen to it on youtube or just download it illegally. Poison gave up on new music two decades ago. The only way these bands have to make money is to TOUR.

A couple of years ago, there were several tours that struggled mightily due to bad ticket sales. But for elite artists like U2, Bruce, Macca, PJ, Coldplay, you have more buyers than you do product. That's going to go against us every time. It's the classic sellers' market.

And lastly, re: ticket prices, take the extreme example of The Rolling Stones. The Stones were selling the best of their reserved floors for $300, only to see them on StubHub the next day for $800. Someone at Stones Inc. said 'to hell with that; if they are going to pay $800 for a ticket, they need to be playing US $800, not some scalper doubling his money off our ticket.'

It is a massively, massively complex and complicated system, but for us, it is simple. If we don't buy the ticket because we don't like TM, for a band like U2, there are two more people who will be happy to do so. So nothing ever changes. If you could sit down with TM's CEO right now and talk to him about the 'problems' with TM, he would say 'What problems?' We had 800,000 tickets to sell yesterday, and we sold every one of them! What's the problem?'

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2017, 08:14:05 AM »
If tickets are CC entry only, how are there resale tickets on Ticketmaster?

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2017, 08:19:12 AM »
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If tickets are CC entry only, how are there resale tickets on Ticketmaster?

That's a very good question. Scalpers used to get around it with pre=paid debit cards and ticket takers being lazy about checking IDs, but I heard TM did way with that payment option. I have no clue how they are getting around it off TM. On TM, I guess TM changes the information, since it is still in house. What I mean is, when I buy the ticket with my name and credit card, and I 'transfer' it to you on the TM re-sale site, they change the purchase info to your name and credit card.

How they get around that on sites like StubHub, etc., I have no clue.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2017, 08:29:15 AM »
Yeah, because I was going to buy in the pre-sale, but hesitated in case I couldn't go since I'm not sure. If I knew I could've sold them on Ticketmaster Resale closer to the date and they'd transfer it to the other persons card, I would've bought them.

There aren't any tickets available anyway - might as well not do Credit Card entry only, it clearly doesn't help. Then I would've bought tickets, and sold them to a fan if I couldn't go. And not at some crazy price like the scalpers already are. Oh well.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2017, 08:30:44 AM »
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Yeah, because I was going to buy in the pre-sale, but hesitated in case I couldn't go since I'm not sure. If I knew I could've sold them on Ticketmaster Resale closer to the date and they'd transfer it to the other persons card, I would've bought them.

There aren't any tickets available anyway - might as well not do Credit Card entry only, it clearly doesn't help. Then I would've bought tickets, and sold them to a fan if I couldn't go. And not at some crazy price like the scalpers already are. Oh well.

Get this: a friend of mine bought a pair of GA for Boston, and she got hard tickets sent to her via UPS. They arrived Saturday. I saw a photo of them.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2017, 08:32:03 AM »
Is Boston supposed to be Credit Card only? I know Metlife is, not sure if they all are?

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2017, 08:34:49 AM »
Agreed...ticket master blows. On tm before 10am today for Cleveland tix. Best seats were in 500 section. Tried again for better seats and redirected to second seller site. AND tickets already being sold on Cleveland craigslist via various ticket brokers...
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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2017, 08:40:04 AM »
I was in and out in less than 5 minutes. I ended up with the closest ones way up high on Edge's side (the folks I was going with wanted to sit and I didn't want to pay more than $125).  I would have preferred to be a little further down the field, but it will be great for stuff on the treE stage. Thanks to forum folks for the tip that TM will think you are a bot if you toss the tickets back!  I would have been pi**ed if I was blocked out of their site.


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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2017, 09:01:53 AM »
Unable to buy tickets missed the pressle also I hope they tour with new album. Very disappointed ticket master is not good luck.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2017, 09:10:19 AM »
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Is Boston supposed to be Credit Card only? I know Metlife is, not sure if they all are?

I purchased tickets for Boston and they are indeed paper tickets. They asked for a shipping method during checkout. Not sure why, but personally I prefer to have a hard ticket so I'm not complaining.

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Re: Something needs to be done about Ticketmaster
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2017, 09:28:01 AM »
I wonder if they'll add a few US nights to large markets like they did with Europe.