I have only read through the first few pages of this post and I'm nauseous. Ive just spent a small fortune to fly from New York to St. Louis for the show on 9/16. I have a ga ticket and at 46 years old I do not have it in me to deal with the bulls*#t! I am willing to put my time in on line but if there is an unofficial list.... no one knows how these things even work?!
Yes I'd like to sleep in the hotel bed that I'm paying for. Yes I'd like to be a tourist in a city I've never been to before...but now I have to stress about camping in a ga line?
I'm too old for this crap!
Here's what I would do. Go have your fun. Don't stress. Get in line around 4 PM.
You won't have good rail or be anywhere where the and will notice you. But you'll have a great view regardless.
If you're serious about getting close, don't do the list. It's time to end it. Show up on showday around 4 AM. And refuse to leave unless venue security tells you to. The list people will show up around 5-6 AM get pi**ed and threaten you. Hold your grounds. Since your show is an American show I can guarantee the venue will say they won't honor the lists beforehand. This gives you your chance to make your point to the venue the list is unfair and you got there before them. The venue will agree, let you keep your place, and have list people go after you.
But I warn you, this list people can get aggressive. No physical contact has been made yet. But certainly aggressive comments to people who have shown up showday before them. They may take pictures of you and try to shame you. Fight back, take pictures of them and share them. Many of the nutcases are already established here.
Aggressive? There will be no fights...
I had redzone in New Jersey and had to stand in line for 8 hours for that! It was such a hot day...I ended up getting dehydrated and as Larry walked out on stage and the show was beginning i ended up on the ground...I made 4 songs and had to leave! I'm flying to St. Louis because I missed the show in jersey and while I couldn't snag redzone I intend to get a rail spot...hopefully
The more I read about this process the more upset I am getting... perhaps I'll have to pay even mor $$ for a redzone ticket from a reseller....