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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #120 on: September 17, 2017, 03:18:45 PM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #121 on: September 17, 2017, 03:51:03 PM »
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #122 on: September 17, 2017, 06:06:17 PM »
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I like California

Ah..s'not controversial.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #123 on: September 17, 2017, 07:54:12 PM »
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I like California

Ah..s'not controversial.

It is with me. U2's poorest effort on SOI. Boring, forgettable, and overall a horrible plodding pop song.

It seems like an obvious attempt at a radio hit, so I don't understand why it was never released as a single...

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #124 on: September 18, 2017, 12:53:53 AM »
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I like California

Ah..s'not controversial.

It is with me. U2's poorest effort on SOI. Boring, forgettable, and overall a horrible plodding pop song.

It seems like an obvious attempt at a radio hit, so I don't understand why it was never released as a single...

you're thinking of SFS ;)

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #125 on: September 18, 2017, 03:37:03 AM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #126 on: September 18, 2017, 06:47:03 AM »
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I like California

Ah..s'not controversial.

It is with me. U2's poorest effort on SOI. Boring, forgettable, and overall a horrible plodding pop song.

It seems like an obvious attempt at a radio hit, so I don't understand why it was never released as a single...

you're thinking of SFS ;)

What's even the difference, anyway?  :)

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #127 on: September 18, 2017, 11:46:06 AM »
For a band that's known for celebrating love and positivity, U2 sure do attract some cantankerous fans.


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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #128 on: September 18, 2017, 03:26:41 PM »
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For a band that's known for celebrating love and positivity, U2 sure do attract some cantankerous fans.


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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #129 on: September 18, 2017, 03:37:09 PM »
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For a band that's known for celebrating love and positivity, U2 sure do attract some cantankerous fans.

Yep, it's a diverse world we live in. For example, for a band that loves to be challenged, U2 sure do attract some obsequious fans. See? Diversity.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #130 on: September 18, 2017, 09:07:38 PM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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I haven't got it on hand to listen to, but pretty sure it's all just a clever 4/4 arrangement

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2017, 02:33:50 AM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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I haven't got it on hand to listen to, but pretty sure it's all just a clever 4/4 arrangement
It is indeed 4/4, but there are some things on it with odd rhythms bouncing off each other, that's the concept of polyrhythm.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #132 on: September 19, 2017, 02:47:43 AM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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I haven't got it on hand to listen to, but pretty sure it's all just a clever 4/4 arrangement
It is indeed 4/4, but there are some things on it with odd rhythms bouncing off each other, that's the concept of polyrhythm.
I indeed know polythythms, having taught drums for almost ten years. I'm just not hearing them in Miami. There's some stilted phrasing from bono but that's about it. :)

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #133 on: September 19, 2017, 04:52:26 AM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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I haven't got it on hand to listen to, but pretty sure it's all just a clever 4/4 arrangement
It is indeed 4/4, but there are some things on it with odd rhythms bouncing off each other, that's the concept of polyrhythm.
I indeed know polythythms, having taught drums for almost ten years. I'm just not hearing them in Miami. There's some stilted phrasing from bono but that's about it. :)
I regret ever mentioning my take on the timing.....

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #134 on: September 19, 2017, 05:34:48 AM »
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I love Miami, I actually think it is better than a good third of the rest of POP (and I love that album). The odd time signature, the loud drum sound, the clank of Edge's guitar.

It's actually in regular 4/4

Once the drums come in it's straight time. But the drum loop at the beginning, Bono's melody, and the bass line are not playing in straight time, they are playing off each other. It sounds odd, at least it does to me.

I think even that intro section is in 4/4, but with some heavy syncopation going on.
I'm pretty sure it's a clear case of polyrhythm, a common trick featured in prog music but extremely unusual for U2.

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I haven't got it on hand to listen to, but pretty sure it's all just a clever 4/4 arrangement
It is indeed 4/4, but there are some things on it with odd rhythms bouncing off each other, that's the concept of polyrhythm.
I indeed know polythythms, having taught drums for almost ten years. I'm just not hearing them in Miami. There's some stilted phrasing from bono but that's about it. :)
Since you're a drum teacher I guess I'll have to trust you on this, I'm a guitar player and my rhythm solfege is very rusty.

The voice timing is weird and it confuses me.

By the way, I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, sorry if you got that impression.