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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #165 on: September 22, 2017, 05:15:52 AM »
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The Joshua Tree is a middle-tier album.

Where the Streets Have No Name is an average track.
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is a terrible song.
In God's Country is annoyingly awful.
One Tree Hill is very pretentious and lackluster.
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #166 on: September 22, 2017, 06:26:01 AM »
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POP is in my top 3-4 albums of all time

Again, not really controversial.

I take "of all time" as any album ever made by any artist, which to me is controversial.  If you said top 3-4 of U2's albums, then not so much.

My bad, I misread that as being U2 albums.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #167 on: September 22, 2017, 07:26:24 AM »
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If Every Breaking Wave had been released 20 years earlier, it would have been considered one of U2's best songs and a tour staple.


Totally agree with this 100%.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #168 on: September 22, 2017, 09:42:04 AM »
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If Every Breaking Wave had been released 20 years earlier, it would have been considered one of U2's best songs and a tour staple.


Totally agree with this 100%.
yeah, this is true.  I see this trend with a lot of the iconic figures in all forms of art.  Everyone rags on the Simpsons sucking the last 15 years and i hadn't seen an episode in probably 20 years until i was forced to watch a few yesterday while on  treadmill at my motel and i laughed my ass off.  Revealing my nerdy side, this can go back to Sherlock Holmes who many fans dismiss the later stories, but if you were to read them not knowing any of the background to them or tying them to the biography of the author, they are on par with the best of them.      I've always argued that no other artists have consistently put out great music for as long as U2 have.  EBW is one of my top 10 for the band.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #169 on: September 22, 2017, 11:13:02 AM »
Oh boy, do I have plenty:

- If one measures the best decade by the number of great songs put out in that decade, the 90s were the worst. I've got 23 songs that I love from 2000-2009 vs. 22 from 1990-1999 (counting Passengers). I don't look at it this way and the 90s were clearly far more consistent, but even so, 2000-2009 was a strong decade for them.

- I think SBS, Exit, and One are very overrated, and Acrobat, Lemon, and Mofo are downright clunkers (and I want to like the latter two).

- Lady With the Spinning Head was better than two of the songs birthed from it: The Fly and Ultraviolet. Only Zoo Station, the best U2 song ever, was a song birthed from it that managed to exceed it. I'd probably say that The Fly was better if it sounded more like the Elevation Tour version.

*Side note*: I don't hear any Zoo Station in that song. Was that the band misspeaking? I think it sounds a lot more like it came from Salome.

- SOI is easily the worst album by the band. There are only a couple of songs that I like, none of which are really in the upper echelons of great U2 songs. SOI is the only album about which I can say that.

- The perfect Achtung Baby: Zoo Station - EBTTRT (either the Perfecto or FOOW remix) - Lady With the Spinning Head (either the regular or extended mix) - UTEOTW - Blow Your House Down - Salome - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - TTTYAATW - Ultraviolet - Where Did it All Go Wrong?

- Last Night on Earth is the best song on Pop by a landslide and one of U2's top ten. I doubt there's much disagreement that Discotheque and Gone are great moments on Pop, but I'm sure that calling Do You Feel Loved and The Playboy Mansions great songs might not be a popular opinion.

- TJT would be a perfect album if RHMT wasn't on it. In God's Country - TTYW - One Tree Hill is probably the best three-song sequence in history.

- I'm okay with Elevation's prevalence in U2's sets because it's an absolutely spectacular song. ;)

- I Fall Down is the best song on any of U2's first three albums, and there are a good many I very much enjoy on those.

- NLOTH has one of the highest great-song counts of any U2 album with NLOTH, Magnificent, Unknown Caller, IGCIIDGCT, GOYB, and Stand Up Comedy.

I'm sure I have more, but I think that's enough pot-stirring for now.
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #170 on: September 22, 2017, 11:28:34 AM »
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Oh boy, do I have plenty:

- If one measures the best decade by the number of great songs put out in that decade, the 90s were the worst. I've got 23 songs that I love from 2000-2009 vs. 22 from 1990-1999 (counting Passengers). I don't look at it this way and the 90s were clearly far more consistent, but even so, 2000-2009 was a strong decade for them.

- I think SBS, Exit, and One are very overrated, and Acrobat, Lemon, and Mofo are downright clunkers (and I want to like the latter two).

- Lady With the Spinning Head was better than two of the songs birthed from it: The Fly and Ultraviolet. Only Zoo Station, the best U2 song ever, was a song birthed from it that managed to exceed it. I'd probably say that The Fly was better if it sounded more like the Elevation Tour version.

*Side note*: I don't hear any Zoo Station in that song. Was that the band misspeaking? I think it sounds a lot more like it came from Salome.

- SOI is easily the worst album by the band. There are only a couple of songs that I like, none of which are really in the upper echelons of great U2 songs. SOI is the only album about which I can say that.

- The perfect Achtung Baby: Zoo Station - EBTTRT (either the Perfecto or FOOW remix) - Lady With the Spinning Head (either the regular or extended mix) - UTEOTW - Blow Your House Down - Salome - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - TTTYAATW - Ultraviolet - Where Did it All Go Wrong?

- Last Night on Earth is the best song on Pop by a landslide and one of U2's top ten. I doubt there's much disagreement that Discotheque and Gone are great moments on Pop, but I'm sure that calling Do You Feel Loved and The Playboy Mansions great songs might not be a popular opinion.

- TJT would be a perfect album if RHMT wasn't on it. In God's Country - TTYW - One Tree Hill is probably the best three-song sequence in history.

- I'm okay with Elevation's prevalence in U2's sets because it's an absolutely spectacular song. ;)

- I Fall Down is the best song on any of U2's first three albums, and there are a good many I very much enjoy on those.

I'm sure I have more, but I think that's enough pot-stirring for now.

Well I disagree with just about everything you say here, but hats off for taking the "controversial" part seriously!

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #171 on: September 22, 2017, 04:56:48 PM »
Hollywood Swag, I do agree that NLOTH has one of the highest great song counts of any U2 album:  "Breathe", "Magnificent", "Fez", "Unknown Caller", "Stand Up Comedy", "Miracle"--that's quite a few right there.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #172 on: September 22, 2017, 06:28:19 PM »
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Hollywood Swag, I do agree that NLOTH has one of the highest great song counts of any U2 album:  "Breathe", "Magnificent", "Fez", "Unknown Caller", "Stand Up Comedy", "Miracle"--that's quite a few right there.

I think any band would love to have an album as strong as NLOTH as their weakest album.  Only 2 or 3 dodgy tunes on it.  I think it speaks to how great U2 is.


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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #173 on: September 22, 2017, 08:10:19 PM »
Let's not forget "Moment of Surrender"--a slow builder with great majesty.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #174 on: September 22, 2017, 11:39:24 PM »
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Oh boy, do I have plenty:

- If one measures the best decade by the number of great songs put out in that decade, the 90s were the worst. I've got 23 songs that I love from 2000-2009 vs. 22 from 1990-1999 (counting Passengers). I don't look at it this way and the 90s were clearly far more consistent, but even so, 2000-2009 was a strong decade for them.

- I think SBS, Exit, and One are very overrated, and Acrobat, Lemon, and Mofo are downright clunkers (and I want to like the latter two).

- Lady With the Spinning Head was better than two of the songs birthed from it: The Fly and Ultraviolet. Only Zoo Station, the best U2 song ever, was a song birthed from it that managed to exceed it. I'd probably say that The Fly was better if it sounded more like the Elevation Tour version.

*Side note*: I don't hear any Zoo Station in that song. Was that the band misspeaking? I think it sounds a lot more like it came from Salome.

- SOI is easily the worst album by the band. There are only a couple of songs that I like, none of which are really in the upper echelons of great U2 songs. SOI is the only album about which I can say that.

- The perfect Achtung Baby: Zoo Station - EBTTRT (either the Perfecto or FOOW remix) - Lady With the Spinning Head (either the regular or extended mix) - UTEOTW - Blow Your House Down - Salome - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - TTTYAATW - Ultraviolet - Where Did it All Go Wrong?

- Last Night on Earth is the best song on Pop by a landslide and one of U2's top ten. I doubt there's much disagreement that Discotheque and Gone are great moments on Pop, but I'm sure that calling Do You Feel Loved and The Playboy Mansions great songs might not be a popular opinion.

- TJT would be a perfect album if RHMT wasn't on it. In God's Country - TTYW - One Tree Hill is probably the best three-song sequence in history.

- I'm okay with Elevation's prevalence in U2's sets because it's an absolutely spectacular song. ;)

- I Fall Down is the best song on any of U2's first three albums, and there are a good many I very much enjoy on those.

- NLOTH has one of the highest great-song counts of any U2 album with NLOTH, Magnificent, Unknown Caller, IGCIIDGCT, GOYB, and Stand Up Comedy.

I'm sure I have more, but I think that's enough pot-stirring for now.
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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #175 on: September 23, 2017, 03:50:37 AM »
I promise you, though, that I'm not making up any of that. My wife asked me recently if I always have such unique preferences because I insist on being different, or if it's because I actually just happen to have those unique preferences. I assured her it's the latter, but I suppose I've grown to embrace being someone who has a very unusual take on things.

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The Joshua Tree is a middle-tier album.

Where the Streets Have No Name is an average track.
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is a terrible song.
In God's Country is annoyingly awful.
One Tree Hill is very pretentious and lackluster.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, that's pretty controversial!  ;D

Does this make me the new an tha?  :D
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The Joshua Tree is a middle-tier album.

Where the Streets Have No Name is an average track.
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is a terrible song.
In God's Country is annoyingly awful.
One Tree Hill is very pretentious and lackluster.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, that's pretty controversial!  ;D

Does this make me the new an tha?  :D
Sorry, dude...I don't think ANYONE can fill his big, ugly shoes!

And no one ever will...
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What happened to an tha?

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #178 on: September 23, 2017, 11:26:30 PM »
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Hollywood Swag, I do agree that NLOTH has one of the highest great song counts of any U2 album:  "Breathe", "Magnificent", "Fez", "Unknown Caller", "Stand Up Comedy", "Miracle"--that's quite a few right there.

That's either Bomb or SOI, depending on which one you mean.

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Re: What are your controversial U2 thoughts?
« Reply #179 on: September 23, 2017, 11:29:30 PM »
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- If one measures the best decade by the number of great songs put out in that decade, the 90s were the worst. I've got 23 songs that I love from 2000-2009 vs. 22 from 1990-1999 (counting Passengers). I don't look at it this way and the 90s were clearly far more consistent, but even so, 2000-2009 was a strong decade for them.

Interesting, and I haven't done the numbers myself, but I'm almost positive I disagree.

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- I think SBS, Exit, and One are very overrated, and Acrobat, Lemon, and Mofo are downright clunkers (and I want to like the latter two).

Sort of agree but also not really. SBS, One and Lemon to me are all really good songs and worthy of their status.

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- Lady With the Spinning Head was better than two of the songs birthed from it: The Fly and Ultraviolet. Only Zoo Station, the best U2 song ever, was a song birthed from it that managed to exceed it. I'd probably say that The Fly was better if it sounded more like the Elevation Tour version.

I love Lady with the Spinning Head and wish it had more presence in U2's catalogue, but the songs which were birthed from it are equally enjoyable so for me it's not a huge disappointment.

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- SOI is easily the worst album by the band. There are only a couple of songs that I like, none of which are really in the upper echelons of great U2 songs. SOI is the only album about which I can say that.

It doesn't hold up does it? I'm not sure it's their worst but maybe it is. Subjective of course but quite forgettable unfortunately.

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- The perfect Achtung Baby: Zoo Station - EBTTRT (either the Perfecto or FOOW remix) - Lady With the Spinning Head (either the regular or extended mix) - UTEOTW - Blow Your House Down - Salome - The Fly - Mysterious Ways - TTTYAATW - Ultraviolet - Where Did it All Go Wrong?

Ok sure whatever.

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- Last Night on Earth is the best song on Pop by a landslide and one of U2's top ten. I doubt there's much disagreement that Discotheque and Gone are great moments on Pop, but I'm sure that calling Do You Feel Loved and The Playboy Mansions great songs might not be a popular opinion.

Last Night on Earth could easily be my favourite song off that album. It changes between 2 or 3 of them for me.

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- TJT would be a perfect album if RHMT wasn't on it. In God's Country - TTYW - One Tree Hill is probably the best three-song sequence in history.

I don't think RHMT does anything to obstruct quality of that record.

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- I'm okay with Elevation's prevalence in U2's sets because it's an absolutely spectacular song. ;)

Spectacular? Nope. Energetic and crowd pleasing? Yes.

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- I Fall Down is the best song on any of U2's first three albums, and there are a good many I very much enjoy on those.

First three? Maybe first 2... I like it a lot too, underrated for sure.

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- NLOTH has one of the highest great-song counts of any U2 album with NLOTH, Magnificent, Unknown Caller, IGCIIDGCT, GOYB, and Stand Up Comedy.

I agreed with you during the first part of that statement then you said GOYB and Stand Up Comedy.....
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