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Offline trevgreg

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2018, 06:25:00 AM »
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"We might lose the pop kids but we dont need them". Different story nowaday!

Do you have any video clips from 25 years ago that I can use to fit my argument about yourself today? Obviously, I'm going to take it verbatim and all...  ;)

Achtung Baby wasn't exactly dripping with esoteric ambient music that had no guitar riffs or hooks either.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2018, 04:52:43 PM »
Greatest Hits tour.

So, a tour where they play the following;

Streets
Pride
Sunday Bloody Sunday
With Or Without You
One
Mysterious ways
Vertigo
Beautiful Day
Elevation
New Yearís Day
I Will Follow
City of Blinding Lights
I still Havenít Found...


Whatís the difference?

Offline Mr. Sarajevo 20

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2018, 08:02:52 AM »
Never understood why COBL has basically been played so much since 2005...

It's a good song...but is it really worthy?

Maybe rotate something else in that slot occasionally?

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2018, 09:05:00 AM »
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Greatest Hits tour.

So, a tour where they play the following;

Streets
Pride
Sunday Bloody Sunday
With Or Without You
One
Mysterious ways
Vertigo
Beautiful Day
Elevation
New Yearís Day
I Will Follow
City of Blinding Lights
I still Havenít Found...


Whatís the difference?

This.

They already only do greatest hits along with some new stuff.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2018, 10:37:21 AM »
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Greatest Hits tour.

So, a tour where they play the following;

Streets
Pride
Sunday Bloody Sunday
With Or Without You
One
Mysterious ways
Vertigo
Beautiful Day
Elevation
New Yearís Day
I Will Follow
City of Blinding Lights
I still Havenít Found...


Whatís the difference?

This.

They already only do greatest hits along with some new stuff.

If they already only do greatest hits *along with some new stuff* then they donít only do greatest hits, do they?

Even when it comes to their old stuff they donít only do greatest hits, they throw in some lesser known songs as well.


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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2018, 06:25:12 AM »
Based on ticket sales for JT tour vs e&i tour, yes.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2018, 07:51:40 AM »
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Never understood why COBL has basically been played so much since 2005...

It's a good song...but is it really worthy?

Maybe rotate something else in that slot occasionally?

Its a classic U2 song. I love the fact that they have continued to play it.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2018, 07:55:19 AM »
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Based on ticket sales for JT tour vs e&i tour, yes.

That is probably an unfair comparison. Although, if you look at the 360 tour results, it beats the Joshua Tree 2017 tour in most markets, which is amazing because 360 was a tour for "No Line On The Horizon". Overall though, the bands current popularity is slipping because they have not had a hit song in a while. Attendance starts to decline when you are not succeeding in having new hit songs to bring in new fans.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2018, 11:38:25 AM »
Yep, Beautiful Day sold the Elevation tour, Vertigo sold the Vertigo tour. But it was the CLAW that sold the 360 tour, it didn't require a hit single.
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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2018, 05:32:48 PM »
I agree that "City of Blinding Lights" could be retired.

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2018, 03:33:36 AM »
I think a few things need to be distinguished:

  • Playing hits (even if its half the show) does NOT make it a "Greatest Hits" show
  • To be a Greatest Hits show, there would have to be FEW to NO, NON HITs
  • Greatest hits tours have little to no new material, 2 at most
  • Greatest hits tours, the FOCUS is on the hits. Even with JT2017 this was not the case. That was an album tour, with more nonhits from the album for one. Perhaps more importantly, the band always thinks about the whole concept and context of the material. In JT 2017 it was about what it meant then, and the parallels to today, and where do we go from there. Greatest hits tours, are merely a string of hits, thats it
  • Even JT 2017 can't be considered "Greatest Hits" as JT only had 3 legit hits. The entire Bside is not known or beloved to casual ticket purchaser, like it is to a fan who attempts to see them or wants to see them often
  • Stadium tours vs Indoor Arena tours are very different
  • Stadium shows tend to have the casual fan more in mind than the arena show. There are naturally far more casual fans at a Stadium show as there are far more seats
  • U2 could easily sell out an Arena show in minutes with just "Hardcore" fans
  • The rate of seats sold is highly impacted by how many years it has been since that market has had a U2 show (They could probably easily sellout 2 nites in the same city for at least 2 cities of a stadium show in AU/NZ)
  • U2's arena shows have statistically been more adventurous with song selection/rotation throughout the tour, as well or setlist order, vs the Stadium tours (360 took more risks)
  • Casual fans don't know: Bad, Bullet the Blue Sky, Electric Co, Out of Control, Ultraviolet, Until the End of the World, Unforgettable Fire, and half don't even know City of Blinding Lights. To actual fans, these are TOUR warhorses, because we follow and go to shows. The casual listener/fan just knows the biggest hits. Hell the younger generation who is a casual listener doesn't even know Pride is a U2 song, or I Will Follow, Sunday Bloody Sunday or New Years Day. They might recognize the song, but have no idea its U2. They know Vertigo, Beautiful Day and may remember Elevation, and will perhaps recognize One and With or Without You
  • A new album from U2 informs the tour in every way. Yes, many of the same songs are played. However everything from the obvious like stage setup, visuals etc are informed by new material. Setlist, which include not only overall song selection but order is completely formed by the narrative of where they are with the new material. Older songs mutate, and take on a different sound and even meaning.
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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2018, 03:44:52 AM »
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I agree that "City of Blinding Lights" could be retired.

I don't want them to retire it... Id like to seem them change the way to play it. The build up can be more dynamic. Its a gradual build that tends to feel more serene. This is probably due to its reflective nature in lyric. They can still do that I the beginning, but the when they really go for in the latter half is when it takes off. Many performances are more somber. Would like to see them amp up the last half more, and consistently. Live, this works much better

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Re: Is it time for U2 to simply start greatest hits tours?
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2018, 03:47:08 PM »
Well, I'll just roll with it no matter what they play.  I like a solid 98 percent of their songs, some more than others.  I have a great time no matter what the set list.