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40 years ago today!
« on: March 18, 2018, 03:04:06 PM »
U2 win the Evening Press/Harp Lagar Guinness competition! March 18, 1978.

Here is the article from The Evening Press dated March 20, 1978.

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Dublin Boys Top of Pops!

Four Dublin schoolboys carried off the top prize at the Limerick Civic Week Pop '78 Competition on Saturday night.

Sponsored by The Evening Press and Harp Lager Guinness, the competition was to find the most talented and entertaining pop group or showband.

The Dublin boys who attend Mount Temple Comprehensive, and are known as U2 Malahide, headed 36 groups from all over the country and won for themselves £500, plus a trophy.

In second place was Rockster, also from Dublin, and the Limerick group Village were third. The only all-girl group in the contest, Harmony, from Tallaght, Co. Dublin, who got an enthusiastic reception, were unplaced.

The other finalists were East Coast Angels, Dublin, Graffiti, Clondalkin, Co. Dublin, Dragster, Charleville, Co. Cork and Doves, Athenry, Co. Galway.

The adjudicators were Billy Wall, Head of Light Entertainment, RTE, Jackie Hayden, CBS Records, who will select one of the groups for a recording test, Paul O'Brien, President, Junior Chamber, Limerick and Disc Jockey Mike "Rave" McNamara.

The Mayor of Limerick, Cllr. Frank Prendergast, presented the trophy to the winners, and the cheque for £500 was presented by Mr. Colm Clarke, Limerick area representative for Guinness.

Mr. Harry Roycroft, also of Guinness, presented the trophy for the runners-up, and Mr. Alan Maxwell, Sales Promotion Executive in Irish Press Ltd., presented the trophy to the third placed group. Co-ordinator of the event was Mr. Eamon Walkin of Limerick Junior Chamber.

The Mayor, Cllr. Prendergast, said it was the ambition of the Civic Week Committee to cater for as many tastes as possible throughout the week in the city and all competitions were very successful.

He thanked The Evening Press and Guinness for their sponsorship and CBS Records who "definitely had some groups in mind for recording."

Mr. Colm Clarke of Guinness and Mr. Alan Maxwell for The Evening Press replied. Mr. Maxwell said Civic Week was a tremendous effort.

Mr. Jackie Hayden from CBS, a spokesman for the jury, said the standard was a credit to the musicianship.

"U2 Malahide," the winning group, was made up of 16-year old Larry Mullen, of Rosemount Ave., Artane, an Intermediate Cert. Student at Mount Temple, Dave Evans (16), of St. Margaret's Park, Malahide, Adam Clayton (17), of Ard na Mara, Malahide, a Leaving Cert. student, and Paul Hewson (17), of Cedarwood Rd., Ballymun, who is also doing his Leaving Cert.

The group are just a year together and progressed from country music to "doing our own stuff." Paul Hewson said: "This means we can solve our money problems in a big way, particularly with regard to equipment. Now we hope to be able to buy a van."

The boys had to promote themselves. "No one in Dublin was interested in us and we came down here as a last resort," said Adam Clayton, group leader.

All the boys had praise for their school, which encouraged them, and gave them facilities to practise. In particular, they appreciated the help of Mr. Donald Moxham, History Teacher, and Mr. Albert Bradshaw, Music Teacher, at the school.

They appeared on RTE three weeks ago and they came to Limerick with the financial help of their parents -- the trip cost them £60 -- and the support of their fans who travelled with the group to see them triumph.



© The Evening Press, 1978. All rights reserved.





The Evening Press, March 20, 1978

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It should be noted that on March 2, 1978 U2 technically did not exist yet. They appeared on youngline as The Hype. d**k, Edges brother, was apart of the Hype. But d**k did not go to the competition in Limerick and the band became a four man group and changed their name to U2. So sometime between March 2 and March 18 is when U2 became a band. But the Hype were not done yet. The Hype played their last concert on March 20, 1978 in Dublin. Then d**k Evans walked off and the new band U2 finished the show.



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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 06:21:14 PM »
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U2 win the Evening Press/Harp Lagar Guinness competition! March 18, 1978.

Here is the article from The Evening Press dated March 20, 1978.

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Dublin Boys Top of Pops!

Four Dublin schoolboys carried off the top prize at the Limerick Civic Week Pop '78 Competition on Saturday night.

Sponsored by The Evening Press and Harp Lager Guinness, the competition was to find the most talented and entertaining pop group or showband.

The Dublin boys who attend Mount Temple Comprehensive, and are known as U2 Malahide, headed 36 groups from all over the country and won for themselves £500, plus a trophy.

In second place was Rockster, also from Dublin, and the Limerick group Village were third. The only all-girl group in the contest, Harmony, from Tallaght, Co. Dublin, who got an enthusiastic reception, were unplaced.

The other finalists were East Coast Angels, Dublin, Graffiti, Clondalkin, Co. Dublin, Dragster, Charleville, Co. Cork and Doves, Athenry, Co. Galway.

The adjudicators were Billy Wall, Head of Light Entertainment, RTE, Jackie Hayden, CBS Records, who will select one of the groups for a recording test, Paul O'Brien, President, Junior Chamber, Limerick and Disc Jockey Mike "Rave" McNamara.

The Mayor of Limerick, Cllr. Frank Prendergast, presented the trophy to the winners, and the cheque for £500 was presented by Mr. Colm Clarke, Limerick area representative for Guinness.

Mr. Harry Roycroft, also of Guinness, presented the trophy for the runners-up, and Mr. Alan Maxwell, Sales Promotion Executive in Irish Press Ltd., presented the trophy to the third placed group. Co-ordinator of the event was Mr. Eamon Walkin of Limerick Junior Chamber.

The Mayor, Cllr. Prendergast, said it was the ambition of the Civic Week Committee to cater for as many tastes as possible throughout the week in the city and all competitions were very successful.

He thanked The Evening Press and Guinness for their sponsorship and CBS Records who "definitely had some groups in mind for recording."

Mr. Colm Clarke of Guinness and Mr. Alan Maxwell for The Evening Press replied. Mr. Maxwell said Civic Week was a tremendous effort.

Mr. Jackie Hayden from CBS, a spokesman for the jury, said the standard was a credit to the musicianship.

"U2 Malahide," the winning group, was made up of 16-year old Larry Mullen, of Rosemount Ave., Artane, an Intermediate Cert. Student at Mount Temple, Dave Evans (16), of St. Margaret's Park, Malahide, Adam Clayton (17), of Ard na Mara, Malahide, a Leaving Cert. student, and Paul Hewson (17), of Cedarwood Rd., Ballymun, who is also doing his Leaving Cert.

The group are just a year together and progressed from country music to "doing our own stuff." Paul Hewson said: "This means we can solve our money problems in a big way, particularly with regard to equipment. Now we hope to be able to buy a van."

The boys had to promote themselves. "No one in Dublin was interested in us and we came down here as a last resort," said Adam Clayton, group leader.

All the boys had praise for their school, which encouraged them, and gave them facilities to practise. In particular, they appreciated the help of Mr. Donald Moxham, History Teacher, and Mr. Albert Bradshaw, Music Teacher, at the school.

They appeared on RTE three weeks ago and they came to Limerick with the financial help of their parents -- the trip cost them £60 -- and the support of their fans who travelled with the group to see them triumph.



The Evening Press, 1978. All rights reserved.





The Evening Press, March 20, 1978

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It should be noted that on March 2, 1978 U2 technically did not exist yet. They appeared on youngline as The Hype. d**k, Edges brother, was apart of the Hype. But d**k did not go to the competition in Limerick and the band became a four man group and changed their name to U2. So sometime between March 2 and March 18 is when U2 became a band. But the Hype were not done yet. The Hype played their last concert on March 20, 1978 in Dublin. Then d**k Evans walked off and the new band U2 finished the show.

Adam is listed as the group leader, lol. He was acting as their manager at the time.


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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 09:14:55 PM »
I think it's incredible that U2 has always consisted of the same 4 guys, now for 40 years.  No more, no less.  If one of the band members does decide to quit one day, (I'm looking at you Larry based on some rumours), but the rest of the band want to keep going, I really hope that they change their name.  Either go back to The Hype, or Feedback, or U3, (with 3 guys left), or whatever.

Right now they have an incredible history of 4 decades of the band not changing a single member.  It would be a shame to tarnish that legacy for a few years of some other random guy in the band at the tail end of their career.

Just call yourselves U3.  The people will still come, and your legacy will be secured.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2018, 11:30:35 PM »
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I think it's incredible that U2 has always consisted of the same 4 guys, now for 40 years.  No more, no less.  If one of the band members does decide to quit one day, (I'm looking at you Larry based on some rumours), but the rest of the band want to keep going, I really hope that they change their name.  Either go back to The Hype, or Feedback, or U3, (with 3 guys left), or whatever.

Right now they have an incredible history of 4 decades of the band not changing a single member.  It would be a shame to tarnish that legacy for a few years of some other random guy in the band at the tail end of their career.

Just call yourselves U3.  The people will still come, and your legacy will be secured.

I actually think it is possible that they would continue the band. Especially if they were in the middle of making an album or on a tour with more shows to come.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 12:19:45 AM »
Here is a new article about the competition that took place 40 years ago:

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Pop goes U2 at 'exact moment' during Limerick contest in Stella Ballroom in 1978

by Michael McNamara March 18, 2018

It is 40 years since 'the exact moment' The Hype became U2 at a Limerick contest. DJ Micky Mac was there as MC. The rest is history
THIS Sunday marks the 40th anniversary of the moment Adam Clayton has described as “the exact moment of becoming U2” at an event in Limerick’s Stella Ballroom.
Pop 78 was a competition run as part of Limerick Civic Week to find the most promising Irish rock band. It took place on March 18, 1978 at the Stella Ballroom and was sponsored by CBS, Harp Lager, and the Evening Press. I was invited by co-ordinator PJ Power to MC the gig.

37 bands entered from all over the country. After heats it was whittled down to seven bands for the final. I was quite excited to be asked to MC because one of the judges was the legendary radio producer, Billy Wall, who at the time produced the Gay Byrne Hour on radio, and went on to be my first boss at 2FM. Other judges were Jackie Hayden of CBS Records, Paul O’Brien, President of Limerick Junior Chamber who organised the event, and Colm Clarke of Guinness.
My job was to introduce each band, the adjudicators and keep the competition flowing. It was a bitterly cold, dark and rainy Saturday night in March as I arrived at the Stella Ballroom on Shannon Street. I went along early so that I could meet the bands and get some research done before the show commenced. I was expecting a good crowd, even queues, as Limerick had a lively music scene. It was very quiet with an hour to go and I wondered to myself “does anyone know that this is going on?”

All the bands had arrived and were hanging around the dressing rooms. I heard a mix of accents and spoke to each band’s leader for research. Village from Limerick, whom I knew were one of the favourites, the only all-girl group in the competition, Harmony from Tallaght, and the East Coast Angels caught my attention with other bands from all over.
As I went from group to group I came upon The Hype. They were 16 year old Larry Mullen from Artane, Dave Evans, 16, from Malahide, Adam Clayton, 18, a Leaving Cert student and their 17-year-old guru, Paul Hewson from Ballymun, who was also doing the Leaving.
“Hey man, we entered as The Hype but now we are calling ourselves U2,” said a very, very confident Bono. I put a face on me and said: “U2 is not a great name, if you don't mind me saying”.
Looking back, I was quite on a roll myself because that morning I was told I had got a presenter gig on RTE Radio. The four guys had travelled down by train and Larry Mullen tells in the authorised biography of the band, U2 by U2, that he and his dad almost missed it. They were joined on the trip by a group of supportive friends. Bono said: “It was very exciting to be on a train with your mates going somewhere to play in front of the music business. It was rock and roll.”
The competition was due to start at 8pm - and there were not 40 in the hall. I remember that the local media were not impressed when the event was sponsored and promoted by the Evening Press, and I did not blame the Limerick papers for not supporting and publicising it. I remember saying to PJ Power: “Will we wait for more to come?”
With about 60 in the audience plus the judges, the show started. The Edge admitted later thatU2 were expecting it to be “a dreadful amateur free-for-all”. He went on: “Once it started it was obvious the calibre of talent was of much higher quality than any of us expected.”
When The Hype/U2 were introduced they got a huge reception from their many friends who travelled down from Dublin. I also remember being told Adam Clayton’s dad, who was an Aer Lingus pilot, was in the small crowd.
I am often asked how did they sound that night 40 years ago. To put that time in context Rivers of Babylon by Boney M was top of the charts and young Ireland was already tired of cheesy disco. The Boomtown Rats were in the charts with Lookin after Number One so a post-disco revolution was unfolding in pop. U2 on that faithful night sounded connected straight away, particularly with the confidence of Bono and the way he introduced their songs. He looked and moved like Rod Stewart wearing a neat grey polo neck as the other guys played in a workmanlike fashion. I also remember the amazing bass sound that Adam got on the night, despite the sound in the big hall being so hollow - you can imagine the echo in a venue that usually attracted 800 dancers.
There seems to be some uncertainty as to what they played in the competition. As far as I can gather, all the songs were original numbers - and the consensus is that they played Street Missions, The TV Song and Life on a Distant Planet.
After all the bands had played, the judges went into conclave, and the future U2 joined the 18 or so fans that had travelled from Dublin. I can remember that Don O’Connor of Reform was in the audience, as well as local DJ Nicky Woulfe. The rest of the audience were fans of the other bands. I do remember a local wedding band musician coming up to me and saying he had accompanied Bono singing at a wedding he was playing at in the Limerick Inn the week before the competition, where he sang some rock and roll numbers. This was correct as Bono’s brother, Norman Hewson, had married a lady from Castleconnell in Monaleen Church a week earlier.

I had the privilege of asking Jackie Hayden from CBS to announce that U2 had won and their fans just exploded. Jackie made reference to the obvious lack of rehearsal and congratulated the winners, saying that he hoped that someday they would achieve the same success as Reform.
Adam Clayton said that it was like winning the lottery - £500 as a prize (1978 remember) and a recording test with CBS - he remembers grabbing the chair in front of him and with all the excitement slamming it down on his dad’s foot. Edge jumped in the air - he was sitting with a friend as he was convinced that they had not won.
I introduced Mayor Frank Prendergast who presented the trophy. In second place was a Dublin band Rockster, while the excellent Village from Limerick came third. None of us knew how important and historic that moment was. U2 won that competition at a time when they recognised how important it was to have belief in their project.
After the concert the celebrations were somewhat subdued as the boys were under-age and were not allowed attend the Festival Club in the Royal George Hotel where I was DJing at Fernando’s Night Club. They stayed in the Royal George, went to the Wimpy Bar, and then back to their rooms where they stayed up all night. Waiting for the train the following morning they went to Funderland at Arthur’s Quay as guests of the Bird family, and Adam picked up the winning cheque with his dad for safe keeping.

Looking back it amazes me how the event, which U2 recognise as being so significant, went largely unreported. At that time pop and rock music was not played on Irish radio and ignored by TV. As far as I know the concert was not recorded or filmed so there is no record of the event. Winning Pop 78 was instrumental in launching the career of the world’s biggest rock band. A few weeks later, U2 booked into Keystone Studios in Dublin for their audition to fulfil their agreement with CBS. From what I hear the session was challenging for them - they were very nervous and wanted only to record two or three tracks. CBS wanted them to do seven or eight. The rest is history.
I often think that if Mayor Prendergast and PJ Power did not have the foresight to add Pop 78 to the festival week in Limerick, which usually had classical voice and trad competitions, U2 may never have got their initial break. I was knocked out when I heard the early demos of Boy Girl, Stories For Boys and Out of Control and wondered would it have happened so quickly for them if they did not win in Limerick.
Michael McNamara or ‘Micky Mac’ is a former 2FM DJ



The link to the article also has a picture of the band I had never seen before. Very early picture. Maybe the earliest yet.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 05:13:06 AM »
Following the atu2.com's ridiculous decision to cease the forum because of:

1. Members
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And then miraculously appear 3 or so months later.

Wow!

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 02:51:36 PM »
I'm used to Larry looking 12 in those old photos but wow, in that second photo Edge looks about 9.

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 12:35:07 AM »
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I'm used to Larry looking 12 in those old photos but wow, in that second photo Edge looks about 9.

I think the second photo is a bit clearer than the first one. I actually found a much better high resolution photo for the second one. Larry looks pretty young in that too. Dave Evans became The Edge and Paul Hewson became Bono. But what a lot of people don't know is that Adam had a nick name back then too. He was nick named Mrs. Burns. That's because many people thought he looked and acted like and old lady. The only nick name I have ever heard for Larry was when Edge referred to him as SMELLY in Rattle And Hum.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 11:17:28 AM »
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I think the second photo is a bit clearer than the first one. I actually found a much better high resolution photo for the second one. Larry looks pretty young in that too. Dave Evans became The Edge and Paul Hewson became Bono. But what a lot of people don't know is that Adam had a nick name back then too. He was nick named Mrs. Burns. That's because many people thought he looked and acted like and old lady. The only nick name I have ever heard for Larry was when Edge referred to him as SMELLY in Rattle And Hum.

I read somewhere (can't remember where as I've been reading so much U2 stuff lately) that Larry's nickname was JamJar. And another nickname for Adam was Sparky. (Mrs. Burns was kind of the cruel nickname given to him by some members of Lypton Village.)

Can you link to the higher resolution photo?

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 01:11:28 PM »
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I think the second photo is a bit clearer than the first one. I actually found a much better high resolution photo for the second one. Larry looks pretty young in that too. Dave Evans became The Edge and Paul Hewson became Bono. But what a lot of people don't know is that Adam had a nick name back then too. He was nick named Mrs. Burns. That's because many people thought he looked and acted like and old lady. The only nick name I have ever heard for Larry was when Edge referred to him as SMELLY in Rattle And Hum.

I read somewhere (can't remember where as I've been reading so much U2 stuff lately) that Larry's nickname was JamJar. And another nickname for Adam was Sparky. (Mrs. Burns was kind of the cruel nickname given to him by some members of Lypton Village.)

Can you link to the higher resolution photo?

Its on a twitter feed that you have to go to. I think the resolution is better, the picture is certainly larger. Here is the link for the twitter feed:

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Then scroll down to Valerie@U2Partygirl5. Danni Mattei tweet is just above it. So click on the picture and you'll discover a larger photo with what I think is better resolution.

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Then scroll down to the picture posted by Valerie, going past the one posted by the Limerick Leader.
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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 01:39:00 PM »
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I think the second photo is a bit clearer than the first one. I actually found a much better high resolution photo for the second one. Larry looks pretty young in that too. Dave Evans became The Edge and Paul Hewson became Bono. But what a lot of people don't know is that Adam had a nick name back then too. He was nick named Mrs. Burns. That's because many people thought he looked and acted like and old lady. The only nick name I have ever heard for Larry was when Edge referred to him as SMELLY in Rattle And Hum.

I read somewhere (can't remember where as I've been reading so much U2 stuff lately) that Larry's nickname was JamJar. And another nickname for Adam was Sparky. (Mrs. Burns was kind of the cruel nickname given to him by some members of Lypton Village.)

Can you link to the higher resolution photo?

Its on a twitter feed that you have to go to. I think the resolution is better, the picture is certainly larger. Here is the link for the twitter feed:

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Then scroll down to Valerie@U2Partygirl5. Danni Mattei tweet is just above it. So click on the picture and you'll discover a larger photo with what I think is better resolution.

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Then scroll down to the picture posted by Valerie, going past the one posted by the Limerick Leader.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 06:14:52 PM »
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It should be noted that on March 2, 1978 U2 technically did not exist yet. They appeared on youngline as The Hype. d**k, Edges brother, was apart of the Hype. But d**k did not go to the competition in Limerick and the band became a four man group and changed their name to U2. So sometime between March 2 and March 18 is when U2 became a band. But the Hype were not done yet. The Hype played their last concert on March 20, 1978 in Dublin. Then d**k Evans walked off and the new band U2 finished the show.

The Edge's brother's name is D i c k.  A common abbreviation of Richard. Why is the system changing this to this silly "d**k" nonsense?

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2018, 02:09:57 AM »
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It should be noted that on March 2, 1978 U2 technically did not exist yet. They appeared on youngline as The Hype. d**k, Edges brother, was apart of the Hype. But d**k did not go to the competition in Limerick and the band became a four man group and changed their name to U2. So sometime between March 2 and March 18 is when U2 became a band. But the Hype were not done yet. The Hype played their last concert on March 20, 1978 in Dublin. Then d**k Evans walked off and the new band U2 finished the show.

The Edge's brother's name is D i c k.  A common abbreviation of Richard. Why is the system changing this to this silly "d**k" nonsense?

I noticed that. I understand why the site does this, but since were talking about Edges brother in this case, I thought they would make an exception at least for this particular word. His full real name is Richard G. Evans. His nickname is D i c k or Dik. I guess it can be spelled both ways.

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Re: 40 years ago today!
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2018, 04:45:29 AM »
Soon it's going to be time for the U2 sons to step in.

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2018, 11:01:41 AM »
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Soon it's going to be time for the U2 sons to step in.

I think only one of them is following a music career. U2 as a band will probably still be going 20 years from now. Especially when you look at the Rolling Stones who are still together.