Author Topic: U2's Stage Director Breaks Down the Band's New Experience + Innocence Tour  (Read 3069 times)

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Interesting... he kinda poo poos the idea of no JT songs being played

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75% new!

So if we consider the following as reruns from ie

I will follow
Iris
Cedarwood
Song for someone
SBS
RBW
Pride
Beautiful Day
Vertigo
Elevation
City of Blinding lights

As songs played every night - then the set will be 44 songs long!

Ace, or could be more U2 pre tour B.S. about being different/experimental and then reverting type

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75% new!

So if we consider the following as reruns from ie

I will follow
Iris
Cedarwood
Song for someone
SBS
RBW
Pride
Beautiful Day
Vertigo
Elevation
City of Blinding lights

As songs played every night - then the set will be 44 songs long!

Ace, or could be more U2 pre tour B.S. about being different/experimental and then reverting type
In fairness to him, I think it is that it feels like 75% of it is new to him as it isn't just about the songs but seems the screen and effects are upgraded, probably changes to material on the screen even for repeated songs and so on.

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The first time he said the 75% thing, it could be read as rferring to his stuff, screen content, set, etc.

But further down he specifically says the setlist is three quarters new.

Either he's out of the loop, dreaming, or he knows something we don't.

And since I can easily believe Willie knows something we don't... Dare I hope?

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Interesting... he kinda poo poos the idea of no JT songs being played

Not really. He said "Obviously, we are repeating songs from both of the previous tours". Nothing about whether they'll actually play tracks off TJT album. He also said "There isn't the same sense of obligation because we haven't been through town in a long time. It's been quite liberating" which could be taken to mean that nothing in their back catalogue is sacred. I only hope for Streets, wouldn't mind if every other warhorse was rested from this tour.

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Interesting... he kinda poo poos the idea of no JT songs being played

Not really. He said "Obviously, we are repeating songs from both of the previous tours". Nothing about whether they'll actually play tracks off TJT album. He also said "There isn't the same sense of obligation because we haven't been through town in a long time. It's been quite liberating" which could be taken to mean that nothing in their back catalogue is sacred. I only hope for Streets, wouldn't mind if every other warhorse was rested from this tour.
Well the question was "Were they ever tempted to play no songs off The Joshua Tree to balance out the last tour?"

so the answer insinuates that yes, there will be Joshua Tree songs.

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In fairness to him, I think it is that it feels like 75% of it is new to him as it isn't just about the songs but seems the screen and effects are upgraded, probably changes to material on the screen even for repeated songs and so on.

Right. Plus, sometimes these questions and answers aren't actually verbatim either, at least in terms of how they're answered and what's transcribed. For example, think about all the times we have a conversation with someone else and answer a question they ask by talking about something slightly different.

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I think Willie will be pretty spot on as usual. 

The augmented reality phone app for LIAWHL does sound like a ploy to get people to use their phones at the beginning which will drain enough battery power to prevent them from holding it in front of their face for the next 20 songs consecutively.  Not too much battery draining though - Bono might ask us to "pull out our stars" for something like COBL or 13.  And I'd like to text that I'm safe after the show too.

I thing 75% new show is probably consisting of about 7 or so songs off the SOE and the rest old stuff not played live before at all (hoping), not played live for a long time (The Ocean, WGRYWH) or not played since 360 perhaps. 

I'm up for it.  It is the third part of the story which is what I thought it would be - so it needs shaking up again.

I'm feeling positive about not stopping the tour. 2019 would be great for the places (Australia, NZ, Japan etc) that have not had a tour for nearly 10 years and an Achtung Baby 30 tour would be great if the band felt they could pull it off in a way that was meaningful for 2021 as much as it's not nostalgia.

The tour stop that has me intrigued the most is the Ucansville date at Mohegan Sun - which tellingly is the last North American stop.  Reading about the venue and its background was interesting - perhaps revelatory.  Here is a small venue (the size of Place Bell Laval) in an entertainment resort/real estate built by indigenous Americans. 
To me, that means:
1. They are thinking about scaling down to smaller venues at some stage (this leads to all kinds of thoughts of are they worried about not always selling out larger venues now/commercial pull; are they wanting to put on a more intimate show for core fans and feel a smaller venue that may be better for this kind of show?)
2. Is this an anti-Trump gesture?  Supporting the indigenous Americans (the Mohegan Tribe) who have invested in entertainment resort real estate (think of Trump Towers, Trump Hotel, Mar-a-Lago - is this not a proverbial 'slap in the face' for Mr Trump?
3. Are they thinking about the possibility of some kind of residency somewhere.  Vegas is the obvious trendy place to be (Elton John has been resident there).  Are they looking at going down a similar route in a venue that is more suited to their ideas and beliefs?  If you remember, they trialled a festival appearance at Bonnaroo.  I think this was less hyped and more thought out than the Glastonbury appearance (which there was some pressure for them to play because they were one of the last big 'names' not to have played).  They are not known as a 'festival band' in the way Coldplay and Foo Fighters would be considered.

Lots to chew over there - over to you?


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73October, you say you think time will show Willie to be spot on.

Does that mean you think the set will be different from what was played... Saturday, I think it was? Because Willie's comments don't seem to match that set.

Mohegan Sun does seem like a weird choice. I almost went but tix were super expensive. Hopefully will make it to Boston.

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Has anyone said Saturday would be the final set for Wednesday (at least?)

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Mohegan Sun is a casino. U2 brings gamblers. They are playing there for A LOT OF MONEY!

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Has anyone said Saturday would be the final set for Wednesday (at least?)

No.

But it's reasonable to think it's at least close to what they plan.

Only 2 more days to find out. We will find out, right? Somebody will post the setlist and overall impressions I assume.

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The show being 75% new does not mean that 75% of the songs played will be new.  Based on the rehearsals, the only part of the show that is the same as last time is Iris-RBW (or UTEOTW depending one whether or not it's replaced by Wild Horses). So i'd say that he's completely accurate.

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What I take from the article, is that U2 is giving us the same old same old stagnant set list, which even Willie says will be locked down when asked about flexibility of the set.
Certain spots will rotate but not much.  My guess Acrobat, Wild Horses will rotate, All Because Of You and maybe Gloria will rotate but not much more, just like I&E.
Those rumors of U2 pulling off a Springsteen were falsely exaggerated over that initial Rolling Stone bit about U2 playing rarities and playing longer.
He also confirms U2 will be rehashing a chunk of I&E set, which I don't get, knowing that at least 90 percent maybe more of the audience has already seen it in 2015.  That part of the show will be really boring.
I even doubt they will be playing longer.  I know they have been rehearsing 25-26 song sets, which in my opinion is not even long, but long for U2 I guess, but I really don't think they will do it.  It always happens.  U2 always tend to shrink the set rather than make it longer.  I think Jt started with 24 songs, then 23, then 22 some nights.  I bet most nights they will play 22-23 songs.
Again, I hate to be negative, but I learned and no pun intended by Experience when it comes to U2, don't get your hopes up.