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Title: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: jralex12 on January 19, 2009, 02:25:55 AM
say some no name band put this song out would you still like it???

i know im not going to get any unbiased answers so maybe im wasting my time but i think if this song was made by the killers for instance i'd be like 'eh its different, bet it will suck live' but because its U2 its like wow those are my boys

this song couldve been bono farting for 3 minutes and we wouldve eaten it all up and thats not an insult because i wouldve eaten it up too
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: justinluey on January 19, 2009, 02:32:50 AM
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say some no name band put this song out would you still like it???

i know im not going to get any unbiased answers so maybe im wasting my time but i think if this song was made by the killers for instance i'd be like 'eh its different, bet it will suck live' but because its U2 its like wow those are my boys

this song couldve been bono farting for 3 minutes and we wouldve eaten it all up and thats not an insult because i wouldve eaten it up too

I agree with the second part, we'd go nuts for almost anything but this tune is brilliant. I liked it the first time. Liked it more the second time, by the 5th time I was blown away. There is so much going on. There are two or three parts that could be the chorus.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: soloyan on January 19, 2009, 02:33:53 AM
Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: daveyg on January 19, 2009, 03:08:44 AM
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Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P

But he has a point!! And you've almost proved his point - getting half insulted that someone dare not be jumping through the air beacuse of U2's new song..
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Kenitai on January 19, 2009, 03:20:55 AM
I'd still very much like the song, even if it wasn't U2.

But that's because I love other rock/punk bands with fast type of music.

I think it's a question more for those loving U2 fans and not be familiar with other today's (some minor) punk/rock bands.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: soloyan on January 19, 2009, 03:35:55 AM
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Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P

But he has a point!! And you've almost proved his point - getting half insulted that someone dare not be jumping through the air beacuse of U2's new song..

Of course he has a point but :

"this song couldve been bono farting for 3 minutes and we wouldve eaten it all up" is not a clever way to introduce yourself to U2 fans, even if you state "thats not an insult because i wouldve eaten it up too".

Stating it's not an insult or insulting yourself doesn't make it less of an insult.

but he definitely has a point. It was an advice on my behalf. We have a new U2 coming up, lots of new members just pop in I'm trying to help...

Back on topic, it's sure my view of this song would be different if it wasn't U2 but I stopped asking myself this very question since Achtung Baby.

And I don't like everything U2 does.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: daveyg on January 19, 2009, 04:04:23 AM
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Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P

But he has a point!! And you've almost proved his point - getting half insulted that someone dare not be jumping through the air beacuse of U2's new song..

Of course he has a point but :

"this song couldve been bono farting for 3 minutes and we wouldve eaten it all up" is not a clever way to introduce yourself to U2 fans, even if you state "thats not an insult because i wouldve eaten it up too".

Stating it's not an insult or insulting yourself doesn't make it less of an insult.

but he definitely has a point. It was an advice on my behalf. We have a new U2 coming up, lots of new members just pop in I'm trying to help...

Back on topic, it's sure my view of this song would be different if it wasn't U2 but I stopped asking myself this very question since Achtung Baby.

And I don't like everything U2 does.

Guess he could have phraseed it better I guess!

But to adress the point I think he was trying to make - us U2 annoracks will love anything U2 produce, whether it was good bad or indifferent. You'll get long threads on various sites saying how brilliant a new song is, even if they released a 30 second version of Baa Baa Black Sheep.

I need to give the song a few more listens - Ive only heard it the once in the car - were it anyone else, or if I werent a U2 fan, Im not sure it'd be an "Oh that's cool" reaction, rushing out to buy the single.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: soloyan on January 19, 2009, 04:51:17 AM
Yeah, I think that the fact that it is a U2 song implies 3 things (or more) for fans :

1/You're more tolerant in the sense that if you don't like it instantly, you'll give it a few listens to let it enter your musical world and give it more chance. Most of the time, if you hear something that doesn't speak to you, you forget about it.

2/Expectations. They give another perspective to the song. Wether it's a good song or not is irrelevant for that matter, the question is : is it a good song for U2 now ?

3/(pun intended) is it a good song for you too now ?

And I think that the answer to both questions is yes : it leads U2 back to their most intriguing and vital works (experiment in sounds/format). And us too.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: McSwilly on January 19, 2009, 04:44:36 PM
Good point.

This song is pretty lame for a band that gave us Pride, I will Follow, Streets, etc. It isn't even as exciting as the lead singles from the last two albums - and those albums were pretty weak.

I have been a fan since 1983, it makes me sad to hear such weak music.

I know the shows will be better, but I do wonder about all the fans, maybe some of you are newer, who think that everything they do is great.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: the Edge Gotto on January 19, 2009, 04:56:39 PM
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Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P

But he has a point!! And you've almost proved his point - getting half insulted that someone dare not be jumping through the air beacuse of U2's new song..

Of course he has a point but :

"this song couldve been bono farting for 3 minutes and we wouldve eaten it all up" is not a clever way to introduce yourself to U2 fans, even if you state "thats not an insult because i wouldve eaten it up too".

Stating it's not an insult or insulting yourself doesn't make it less of an insult.

but he definitely has a point. It was an advice on my behalf. We have a new U2 coming up, lots of new members just pop in I'm trying to help...

Back on topic, it's sure my view of this song would be different if it wasn't U2 but I stopped asking myself this very question since Achtung Baby.

And I don't like everything U2 does.

Guess he could have phraseed it better I guess!

But to adress the point I think he was trying to make - us U2 annoracks will love anything U2 produce, whether it was good bad or indifferent. You'll get long threads on various sites saying how brilliant a new song is, even if they released a 30 second version of Baa Baa Black Sheep.

I need to give the song a few more listens - Ive only heard it the once in the car - were it anyone else, or if I werent a U2 fan, Im not sure it'd be an "Oh that's cool" reaction, rushing out to buy the single.

I want to hear U2 do a 30 second version of Baa Baa Black Sheep. I think that would be quite funny actually.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: vickidvm on January 19, 2009, 06:51:45 PM
If this song was by anyone else, I'd probably like it better.  However, I put U2 on a pedestal and expected a little more from them.  I don't hate GOYB but I don't love it either.  Hoping it will grow on me over time.  I can see how it would be good live, though. 
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: evel12314 on January 19, 2009, 06:59:17 PM
Sure I would approach the song a lot differently if it was by another artist. The difference is that U2 have proven themselves capable of so much over the years that this song has an added kick to it because it signifies a whole new area of musical direction. It sounds different from anything they have done over the past 30 years.
If another band put this out, my thought would be: "Cool song....but what else can you do?"
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Joe90usa on January 19, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
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If this song was by anyone else, I'd probably like it better.  However, I put U2 on a pedestal and expected a little more from them.  I don't hate GOYB but I don't love it either.  Hoping it will grow on me over time.  I can see how it would be good live, though. 

I think I'm in this boat as well. I think the rhythm section does a great job in this song, but I keep waiting for Edge to jump in and top it off with a killer solo. Then I remember that U2 really does not want to be a rock band, they want to be a pop band and dominate the charts. My hope is that when they play this song life, Edge gets to add that killer solo that I want and this song really takes off.

I'll add the caveat that this is how I feel about the song after hearing it a few times. That could change as time goes by.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: ProofThatThisIsReal on January 19, 2009, 07:19:42 PM
I was thinking about starting a thread like this earlier...

I try to not really think of something as "oh, it's U2, then it must be great" frame of mind.  I'm sure we all do it subliminally though.  I personally, if I heard this on the radio, I'd like a few parts of the song but would detest a lot of it.  That's kind of what I'm thinking now, only, yes, it is growing on me so that I can handle the 'singing' (is that what he called it?)  Really though, it's just my personal opinion.  Anyone else hear that guitar in the background of the second verse of 'let me in the sound'?
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: zooey on January 19, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
I sure as heck wouldn't have listened to it 10+ times today!!
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: domino on January 19, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
i genuinely think i'd love it. kind of like i fell in love with glasvegas' sound instantly after one song a few months ago (and they're not even that good of a band).

I was thinking this would be a cool Arctic Monkeys song...


I too have uber high expectations for U2, but what more do you want/can you want right? They must kind of detest us for being so critical and having such high hopes. And i wonder who has higher expectations....the band or the fans?

So many elements make a 'good' song. I love Pride, Streets, I will follow...just as much as anyone on here. But I've never listened to Pride on loop with a ridiculous grin on my face and bopped to the beat of i will follow countless times. Maybe it's novely, maybe it's not.

I also wonder if theirs a bit of an age/generational divide on this one.....too hard to tell from my vantage point...

That said...I think the band deserves credit. They have reinvented themselves, if only for 3+ minutes. Pretty remarkable for a 30+ year career...i'd probably get to writing 15 songs before they all started to sound the same. I mean Bruce Springsteen is a rock god, I love him dearly and am a huge fan, but i'd also be the first to admit his last few albums all kinda sound the same...sonically, lyrically etc. And 'Working on a dream' looks to be no different...and for some reason, critics in the popular media always give him high praise, and his albums meet great acclaim but with U2, these same critics are so much harsher...and contradict even their own criteria. i never quite get that. oh well.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: streetmission on January 19, 2009, 08:56:35 PM
I think I'd really like the song, because I love the riff and the rhythm section.  I wouldn't have analyzed it as much if it wasn't U2.  I spent some time today analyzing the lyrics for a deeper meaning, and I definitely found one.  There are several intriguing lines in the song, and it definitely has a political undertone.  I think I still would have listened to it a lot, because I fell in love with the song.  Whenever I fall in love with a movie, show, or song I go head over heels and listen to/watch it over and over.  That's just the way I am. :)

As for whom U2 has to please, they really just have to please themselves.  And I honestly think, despite how critical we are as fans, the band is more critical of themselves.  Listening to and reading some interviews about those who have worked with the band in the studio all I can say is wow!  There were a lot of intense moments, especially with the recording of this album (similar to the recording of Achtung Baby).  I remember reading somewhere that there were instances when people working with the band thought the four of them might start throwing a few punches!  Four guys pulling in four different directions can be intense.  I think at this stage the band hopes their music will be popular, but what more do they have to prove?  As long as they feel they've done their best that's all that really matters to them, I think.

Do I think Get On Your Boots will be popular?  Yes!  Will the album?  Yes!  Some have said Get On Your Boots is a pop song.  This isn't Jason Mraz, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay, or the Jonas Brothers.  No way!  This is an all out rocker of a rock song, through and through.  This is Rock 'n' Roll 2009, baby! 8)
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: luieu2 on January 19, 2009, 09:11:17 PM
hes not farting is he get over it  , i dont think you are a U2 fan >:(
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: evel12314 on January 19, 2009, 09:13:25 PM
Streetmission, I agree with you 100%!
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: B-Wood on January 19, 2009, 09:32:48 PM
I love U2, they are by far my favorite band.  But uh, Viva la Vida is a better song than Get On Your Boots.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: j2736 (i'm not a boy ! ) on January 19, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
U2 made this song perfectly. i don't know if i'd still love it if it wasn't by U2. this song talks about sexiness but there's no malice about it. it's just really soooooooooooo BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!  :-*
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: luieu2 on January 19, 2009, 09:35:45 PM
to me there is U2 music then theres the rest till the day i die .get your boots is awsome cant wait for the rest of the album . i dont think he can sing cold play lead singer .
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: domino on January 19, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
i think Chris Martin peed his pants the first time he heard Get On Your Boots.....no contest.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: luieu2 on January 19, 2009, 09:45:43 PM
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i think Chris Martin peed his pants the first time he heard Get On Your Boots.....no contest.
didnt they rip off satriani with viva la vida mmmmm ;)
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: u2boy11 on January 19, 2009, 09:51:41 PM
If this song wasn't U2, I would still love it. But I don't think another band could record something like this.

Sure...you say this song isn't Streets...or any U2 song like that...
No -- it's not what you were expecting (isn't that a good thing?).

I think what you believe the song is missing is majesty -- the traditional guitar-scape and "rhythm groove" of U2.

This song takes U2 on to another direction. I think it's pretty much amazing. The album is going to complete the Joshua Tree/Achtung Baby/No Line On The Horizion trio. It's the fastest song they've ever recorded...that's awesome for a band in their mid/late 40s.

Coldplay's Viva La Vida (and I love that song and album very very much)could never touch the hems of this song. This is irony. It's sex. It's greed. It's politics. It's joy. It's culture. It's hope. It's love. It's hate. All in one great package. Viva La Vida...while very good...can't touch it.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: luieu2 on January 19, 2009, 09:55:40 PM
cold play u2 wanna bees lets see in ten years where cold play is .bargain bin maybe
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: jralex12 on January 19, 2009, 11:06:44 PM
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Hey, great way to introduce yourself to the forum...not.  :P

i dont need an introduction i bet ive been a member of this website longer than you. i just had to change my user name after they switched forums
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: jralex12 on January 19, 2009, 11:20:08 PM
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hes not farting is he get over it  , i dont think you are a U2 fan >:(

yeah im not a U2 fan...i just sign up on various band forums and start trouble...i'll tell you who the fake fans are...they are the people that wanted to petition U2 last year right before their opening of the vertigo tour in san diego...i tore them apart on the U2.com forum and on this forum. i have spent too much money on this band to have my fandom put into question. ive been lucky enough to meet bono and shake his hand and yes im a U2 fan because i was nervous as sh** when i did it...i dont need to be recognized as a true U2 fan and i dont even care to be accepted by the @U2.com forum community! as far as im concerned you all could be a bunch of trashy people that just happen to have good taste in music. and no i did not call you trashy people but seriously comments like this are unnecessary and yes i like the new song
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: the Edge Gotto on January 19, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
People, this is a U2 fan site. I'm sure someone who doesn't like U2 wouldn't be on here. Let's all respect one another. I'm sure the band wouldn't want their fans arguing over who is a true fan and not a true fan. It's okay to have different opinions but be nice two one another. In the name of love...
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: soloyan on January 20, 2009, 04:25:29 AM
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I love U2, they are by far my favorite band.  But uh, Viva la Vida is a better song than Get On Your Boots.

It makes think...if "Viva la Vida" was not a Coldplay album, I'd never have listened to it in its entirety.

Not saying it's bad. Just that it doesn't speak to me the way their other albums did.

Anyway, the U2 Vs Coldplay thread is now open :

http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,1105.0.html
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Bono in Bonolands on January 20, 2009, 03:15:25 PM
"I can't believe that someone who can start their colonoscopy prep on an airplane would get stage fright at a urinal.''
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Joe90usa on January 20, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
People who think the new single sucks are welcome to their opinion and should be able to state it here without being hassled for it.

People who think the new single is the greatest song ever recorded are welcome to their opinion and should be able to state it here without being hassled for it.

Let's all grow up. Nobody is wrong for how they feel about the new song. It's called an opinion.

I've deleted a few posts here that were nothing more than personal attacks. Those kinds of posts will get you banned, so everyone keep your head.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: the Edge Gotto on January 20, 2009, 07:38:39 PM
Thank you Joe. That's what I said earlier on the post. Please. In the name of love...
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: ProofThatThisIsReal on January 20, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
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People who think the new single sucks are welcome to their opinion and should be able to state it here without being hassled for it.

People who think the new single is the greatest song ever recorded are welcome to their opinion and should be able to state it here without being hassled for it.

Let's all grow up. Nobody is wrong for how they feel about the new song. It's called an opinion.

I've deleted a few posts here that were nothing more than personal attacks. Those kinds of posts will get you banned, so everyone keep your head.



If only everyone could understand that.  Besides, does it matter if someone else does or doesn't like GOYB?  Not really, as long as you like it.  And why in the world would you attack someone for their opinion???
Of course, people saying that it is 'the worst song ever and u2 are the stupidest band around' type "opinions" are just looking for a fight, so they can go to another website if that's what they want.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: EdgeUK8_my_mind on January 20, 2009, 10:29:42 PM
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But to adress the point I think he was trying to make - us U2 annoracks will love anything U2 produce, whether it was good bad or indifferent. You'll get long threads on various sites saying how brilliant a new song is, even if they released a 30 second version of Baa Baa Black Sheep.

I need to give the song a few more listens - Ive only heard it the once in the car - were it anyone else, or if I werent a U2 fan, Im not sure it'd be an "Oh that's cool" reaction, rushing out to buy the single.

I want to hear U2 do a 30 second version of Baa Baa Black Sheep. I think that would be quite funny actually.

That would be interesting, and I would love to see them release the version of the Hokey Pokey they did during a video shoot (COBL http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975 (http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975))
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Bono in Bonolands on January 20, 2009, 10:32:14 PM
If the song wasn't a U2 song - people would be saying "Who is the new band with this great sound?"
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: domino on January 20, 2009, 10:54:23 PM
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That would be interesting, and I would love to see them release the version of the Hokey Pokey they did during a video shoot (COBL http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975 (http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975))

I was there!! WOOT! It was pretty great. Everyone started singing along and he was surprised we knew the song  ;D
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: the Edge Gotto on January 20, 2009, 11:11:31 PM
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That would be interesting, and I would love to see them release the version of the Hokey Pokey they did during a video shoot (COBL http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975 (http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975))

I was there!! WOOT! It was pretty great. Everyone started singing along and he was surprised we knew the song  ;D

Lucky!
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: the Edge Gotto on January 20, 2009, 11:17:53 PM
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That would be interesting, and I would love to see them release the version of the Hokey Pokey they did during a video shoot (COBL http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975 (http://wgrx.fantasymusicleague.com/artist.php?id=7975))

I was there!! WOOT! It was pretty great. Everyone started singing along and he was surprised we knew the song  ;D

Lucky!

I can't find the video.
Title: Re: if 'get on your boots' wasnt U2
Post by: Hawkmoon2e on January 22, 2009, 07:26:31 PM
....then they should probably take it off of their website.