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Title: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: m2 on January 31, 2010, 05:16:58 PM
So far the band is 0 for 2 at the GRAMMYS. "I'll Go Crazy" lost both of its categories to "Use Somebody" by Kings of Leon. This was during the pre-show awards ceremony. The BEST ROCK ALBUM category will be announced later during the TV broadcast.

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Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Boom Cha! on January 31, 2010, 05:18:11 PM
The Grammys love U2. I don't see them going 0 for 3.

I think they'll win Best Rock Album.

Plus, Crazy Tonight didn't really deserve a nomination.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
I honestly dont care about awards.  To me, its more important that we the fans embrace and welcome their music than some awards committee
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 05:27:16 PM
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I think they'll win Best Rock Album.

Plus, Crazy Tonight didn't really deserve a nomination.

They wont win best album I think, and Magnificent or Breathe if it was made a single would have been better nominees than Crazy
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 05:34:20 PM
While I LOVE the boys, I've been disappointed at the reaction to the new album.  I think it's fantastic, but I think if they win best rock album people will be snarky over it, because the Grammys as an institution reflects the ill of the music industry.  Even though I honestly think it's one of their best.  But I know I'm in the minority.  I'm just proud they are the group that has won the most Grammys ever with 22!

I always believed that the fans should vote the Grammys. 

I will also admit that of all the songs on NLOTH, "Crazy Tonight" would not be my choice for any nomination.  I think there are others on the album that are much stronger.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 05:44:35 PM
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I think they'll win Best Rock Album.

Plus, Crazy Tonight didn't really deserve a nomination.

They wont win best album I think, and Magnificent or Breathe if it was made a single would have been better nominees than Crazy


I could not agree more with you on that one!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 05:46:18 PM
welcome to the forum Seagirlx, beautiful avi by the way
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: CharityDance on January 31, 2010, 05:46:27 PM
I agree that "Crazy" was a weird nomination anyway.  I personally think NLOTH is utterly brilliant -- but because it wasn't so well received publicly and had no standout singles, I do think if it wins tonight we'll get a lot of snark.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
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welcome to the forum Seagirlx, beautiful avi by the way

Hey thanks so much!  Your's isn't too bad either!  ;-)  Thanks for the warm welcome!  Let's have some fun!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 05:57:45 PM
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I agree that "Crazy" was a weird nomination anyway.  I personally think NLOTH is utterly brilliant -- but because it wasn't so well received publicly and had no standout singles, I do think if it wins tonight we'll get a lot of snark.

I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one!  When I first heard it, I told my boyfriend that I think it's as good/better than Joshua Tree!  He disagreed, of course.  And I'm SURE we'd hear alot of snark over that!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: May14Baby on January 31, 2010, 06:00:33 PM
I was not completely happy with NLOTH, but after I saw U2 play the songs live and I heard some of the comments made by Bono about the direction of the CD, I changed my mind.  I really do like the CD.  I do agree that a better single could have been chosen, but alas, they did not ask me.  Win or lose, thin or flush.........I love my U2.  Kisses to the guys.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 06:20:24 PM
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welcome to the forum Seagirlx, beautiful avi by the way

Hey thanks so much!  Your's isn't too bad either!  ;-)  Thanks for the warm welcome!  Let's have some fun!

Sounds like a great plan :) :)
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
Lady Gaga was nominated for song of the year with Pokerface....the apocalypse is upon us
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 06:23:58 PM
I think I'll have to make my PB&J sammich when Beyonce comes on.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: jackie_u2 on January 31, 2010, 06:24:59 PM
I'm sad that U2 didn't win the other 2 nominations, but I'm really hoping that they win for best rock album, NLOTH deserves it :)
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Post by: hurricane hugo on January 31, 2010, 06:36:42 PM
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Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: macmango on January 31, 2010, 06:46:00 PM
who's there?  just the edge and morleigh?
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: excidence on January 31, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
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I think I'll have to make my PB&J sammich when Beyonce comes on.

You do that.

 ???
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: homing_pidgeon on January 31, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
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So far the band is 0 for 2 at the GRAMMYS. "I'll Go Crazy" lost both of its categories to "Use Somebody" by Kings of Leon. This was during the pre-show awards ceremony. The BEST ROCK ALBUM category will be announced later during the TV broadcast.

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Coldplay won Best Rock Album last year. Nuff said.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: jackie_u2 on January 31, 2010, 07:21:05 PM
record of the year-kings of leon?! they SUCK. I thought Beyonces song was better than theres, wayyyy better!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Thunder Peel on January 31, 2010, 07:23:56 PM
Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: briscoetheque on January 31, 2010, 07:25:20 PM
Sadly I think the grammys have just become one big circle jerk...

Look at the last 10-20 years for example, the best albums...

Eric Clapton, Bonnie Raitt, Quincy Jones, Natalie Cole, Tony Bennett, Bob Dylan, Steely Dan, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock, Robert Plant/Alison Krauss, Santana, that Band of Brothers thing...

Hardly pushing the boundaries of music production.

In fact, in the same way that portraying a one-legged mentally ill holocaust victim will GUARANTEE you an Oscar, any sort of collaboration with a music legend, duets, or posthumous releases will win you a Grammy.

I'll go out on a limb and say that if Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan release an album next year of whale songs, it will win best album.



Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: bloom on January 31, 2010, 07:25:51 PM
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While I LOVE the boys, I've been disappointed at the reaction to the new album.  I think it's fantastic, but I think if they win best rock album people will be snarky over it, because the Grammys as an institution reflects the ill of the music industry.  Even though I honestly think it's one of their best.  But I know I'm in the minority.  I'm just proud they are the group that has won the most Grammys ever with 22!

I always believed that the fans should vote the Grammys. 

I will also admit that of all the songs on NLOTH, "Crazy Tonight" would not be my choice for any nomination.  I think there are others on the album that are much stronger.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts! I listened to No Line yesterday for the first time in a while...I've loved it from the first time I heard it and I've never stopped loving it, but I've gotten kind of used to hearing it dismissed or criticized...but when I heard it yesterday with semi-fresh ears, I remembered just how great it sounds...all of a sudden I wondered how so many people could fail to hear what I was hearing. It just seems so utterly beautiful, a challenging, cohesive album and a real departure from their other recent material. I don't claim to understand the whims of public opinion or the intricacies of Grammy voting, and I will be a LITTLE sad but not heartbroken if it doesn't win tonight...but what I DO want more than anything is for U2 to make more music like this. I know they have a lot of stuff they're sitting on from the No Line sessions...I just hope at least some of it finds its way to us eventually!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 07:31:42 PM
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While I LOVE the boys, I've been disappointed at the reaction to the new album.  I think it's fantastic, but I think if they win best rock album people will be snarky over it, because the Grammys as an institution reflects the ill of the music industry.  Even though I honestly think it's one of their best.  But I know I'm in the minority.  I'm just proud they are the group that has won the most Grammys ever with 22!

I always believed that the fans should vote the Grammys. 

I will also admit that of all the songs on NLOTH, "Crazy Tonight" would not be my choice for any nomination.  I think there are others on the album that are much stronger.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts! I listened to No Line yesterday for the first time in a while...I've loved it from the first time I heard it and I've never stopped loving it, but I've gotten kind of used to hearing it dismissed or criticized...but when I heard it yesterday with semi-fresh ears, I remembered just how great it sounds...all of a sudden I wondered how so many people could fail to hear what I was hearing. It just seems so utterly beautiful, a challenging, cohesive album and a real departure from their other recent material. I don't claim to understand the whims of public opinion or the intricacies of Grammy voting, and I will be a LITTLE sad but not heartbroken if it doesn't win tonight...but what I DO want more than anything is for U2 to make more music like this. I know they have a lot of stuff they're sitting on from the No Line sessions...I just hope at least some of it finds its way to us eventually!

HA!  Likewise!  I agree...it's fantastic!  What do these people know, anyway.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 07:34:59 PM
NUTS!  Green Day beat out U2. ???
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on January 31, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
told you they wouldnt win
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: dudette on January 31, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
NOOOOOOOOO! I literally fell on the floor screaming my darn head off. Literally. And my brother laughed. And I cried. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: dudette on January 31, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not even one! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Ok, I'll shut up. But I am so sad I made two posts.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: dudette on January 31, 2010, 07:38:43 PM
NOOOOOOOO! Ok, I'll go back downstairs to continue watching and wailing. NOOOOO!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: summer_ on January 31, 2010, 07:39:13 PM
eww...i dont like green day

did the band even go?
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Moose on January 31, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: briscoetheque on January 31, 2010, 07:40:47 PM
The greatest album of the year didn't even get nominated


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Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 07:44:05 PM
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told you they wouldnt win

Oh I knew they wouldn't get it.  Sadly.  It's a much better album than 21st Century Breakdown, which is a Zerox copy of American Idiot.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 07:49:04 PM
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U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(

I think they're getting lost in the antiquated paradigm that the industry is operating on.  They need to figure out new ways to get the music out.  In my opinion, they need to take a look at how we like to get our music.  I will always love them, but I think they need to get away from all the corporate business and re-think strategy.  The album was released way too soon.  We all get older, and that could very well be part of it but I tend to think it's just the variables present in music today.  I think they still got it if they want it.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: bloom on January 31, 2010, 07:51:37 PM
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U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(

I think they're getting lost in the antiquated paradigm that the industry is operating on.  They need to figure out new ways to get the music out.  In my opinion, they need to take a look at how we like to get our music.  I will always love them, but I think they need to get away from all the corporate business and re-think strategy.  The album was released way too soon.  We all get older, and that could very well be part of it but I tend to think it's just the variables present in music today.  I think they still got it if they want it.

Seagirl, I hope you stick around the forum! Your insights are cool.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 08:04:46 PM
Hey thanks!  I'm not going anywhere!   :)  This is fun!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 08:06:07 PM
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U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(

I think they're getting lost in the antiquated paradigm that the industry is operating on.  They need to figure out new ways to get the music out.  In my opinion, they need to take a look at how we like to get our music.  I will always love them, but I think they need to get away from all the corporate business and re-think strategy.  The album was released way too soon.  We all get older, and that could very well be part of it but I tend to think it's just the variables present in music today.  I think they still got it if they want it.

Seagirl, I hope you stick around the forum! Your insights are cool.

The methods that worked in the past, don't work anymore.  It's a different world and technology obviously had something to do with it.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: shkee23 on January 31, 2010, 08:11:22 PM
I definitely don't think No Line was released too soon, unless of course you meant that they should have waited a few months until the more lucrative shopping season. However, if you meant that it needed more time in the studio, I'd have to say that 5 years was way TOO much between albums. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that Songs of Ascent comes out sooner rather than later...I just can't stand waiting 4-5 more years from now for a new release. I think we all know our time for U2 is waning. They're getting up there...
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: briscoetheque on January 31, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
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U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(

I think they're getting lost in the antiquated paradigm that the industry is operating on.  They need to figure out new ways to get the music out.  In my opinion, they need to take a look at how we like to get our music.  I will always love them, but I think they need to get away from all the corporate business and re-think strategy.  The album was released way too soon.  We all get older, and that could very well be part of it but I tend to think it's just the variables present in music today.  I think they still got it if they want it.

Seagirl, I hope you stick around the forum! Your insights are cool.

The methods that worked in the past, don't work anymore.  It's a different world and technology obviously had something to do with it.

Agree, even the multiple formats of albums is stale. you're catering to the fan base of completists (of which many of us here are) but no one outside the forum crowd will spend 100bucks on the No Line box set no matter how good it is.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: blissfulmitch on January 31, 2010, 08:16:52 PM
Although I LOVE No Line, dunno if they stood a chance against the Kings of Leon.

For Best Rock Album, the most realistic choice should still have been Kings of Leon. Both U2's and their album are better than 21st Century Breakdown.

For the rest, there was no way that "Crazy Tonight" was a better song than "Use Somebody."

The most interesting thing to me - and perhaps a little infuriating - is that the Kings used U2's own medicine against them. You can hear the appreciation for the "U2-sounding" genre in the younger half's (the guitarist and bassist are fellow 24 year olds, hah hah) influences. I am proud of the Kings, though, for winning Record of the Year over the twin juggernauts of a certain Ms. Sasha Fierce and a certain lady known as Gaga (ooh la la).
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 08:23:21 PM
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U2 gets shut out....perhaps age is catching up with them??  >:(

I think they're getting lost in the antiquated paradigm that the industry is operating on.  They need to figure out new ways to get the music out.  In my opinion, they need to take a look at how we like to get our music.  I will always love them, but I think they need to get away from all the corporate business and re-think strategy.  The album was released way too soon.  We all get older, and that could very well be part of it but I tend to think it's just the variables present in music today.  I think they still got it if they want it.

Seagirl, I hope you stick around the forum! Your insights are cool.

The methods that worked in the past, don't work anymore.  It's a different world and technology obviously had something to do with it.

Agree, even the multiple formats of albums is stale. you're catering to the fan base of completists (of which many of us here are) but no one outside the forum crowd will spend 100bucks on the No Line box set no matter how good it is.

Yeah, I mean, we aren't buying CDs anymore.  I would LOVE to see the biggest rock band in the world come up with a revolutionary answer to file-sharing that changes the whole industry.  I mean, they always have redefined the rock show so we know they can do it.  File-sharing may never be reined in, but I'd like to see them come up with an answer that will allow them to get back on top.  Either Paul McGuinness is stuck in the past, or they're taking things for granted.  Their release of NLOTH will be a lesson for them and if they're smart, and I have no doubt that they are, they will take this away and re-think it.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on January 31, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 08:33:20 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

HA!  Well said!
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: blissfulmitch on January 31, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
My sentiments exactly, JoeG. Kings used U2's own medicine against them. Just like so, so, so many bands do these days.
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Post by: ABloodRedSky on January 31, 2010, 08:45:10 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

BURN!

...So true though. :D
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: nolinehere on January 31, 2010, 08:46:28 PM
Grammys. Eric Clapton Unplugged beat AB. 'nuff said.



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Post by: briscoetheque on January 31, 2010, 08:47:49 PM
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Grammys. Eric Clapton Unplugged beat AB. 'nuff said.


Oh death gets you across the line. Tragic though it was, it's a surefire grammy-winner...
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: TyraRay on January 31, 2010, 08:54:21 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

hahaha very true..

OKAY ARE THEY NOT EVEN AT THE GRAMMYS?
cause I had no interest what so ever in wasting 3 hours watching this while I have so much homework.
ONLY WATCHING TO SEE U2  :'(
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: homing_pidgeon on January 31, 2010, 08:55:33 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: TyraRay on January 31, 2010, 08:59:06 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.

...seriously? Other then the Streets vid, how?
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: SeagirlX on January 31, 2010, 09:14:16 PM
The fact that the band isn't there tells you alot about what they thought their chances were tonight.  Have they ever missed when they won?

I have an insanely early morning, my friends.  I'm out and will catch you another time soon!

Cheers!

 ;D
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: LoveSupreme on January 31, 2010, 09:17:05 PM
Watching Lil Wayne & Co. They are bleeping out every other line. its like  ____________________________. lol.

I'm sad they didnt win anything :(
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: TyraRay on January 31, 2010, 09:17:49 PM
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Watching Lil Wayne & Co. They are bleeping out every other line. its like  ____________________________. lol.

LOL I know eh,  :D :D :D
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on January 31, 2010, 09:38:37 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.

...seriously? Other then the Streets vid, how?

Yeah, that's a stretch.....other than "Window in the Skies", their "Happiness is a Warm Gun" cover, the Streets vid, and I think a few quickshots of Sgt Pepper Beatles in the "Real Thing" vid, I don't see much of a direct musical or lyrical influence from the Beatles to U2. Bono likes to refer to them as idols on occasion, and shows a clear affection for John Lennon, but any influence in my opinion should be viewed as indirectly inspirational in the general rock and roll band sense.

On the other hand, "Use Somebody" is almost exactly the same tune as "Open your Eyes" by Snow Patrol, which in itself is almost exactly the same tune as Streets.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: Utwoed on January 31, 2010, 10:27:25 PM
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Lady Gaga was nominated for song of the year with Pokerface....the apocalypse is upon us
So what does that tell you about the stupid Grammy's.  I don't give 2 bleeps about awards.  Some of the best bands/artists in the world have never been nominated and they sold more records, packed more stadiums, and made unbelievable music. 
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: TyraRay on January 31, 2010, 10:52:27 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.

...seriously? Other then the Streets vid, how?

Yeah, that's a stretch.....other than "Window in the Skies", their "Happiness is a Warm Gun" cover, the Streets vid, and I think a few quickshots of Sgt Pepper Beatles in the "Real Thing" vid, I don't see much of a direct musical or lyrical influence from the Beatles to U2. Bono likes to refer to them as idols on occasion, and shows a clear affection for John Lennon, but any influence in my opinion should be viewed as indirectly inspirational in the general rock and roll band sense.

On the other hand, "Use Somebody" is almost exactly the same tune as "Open your Eyes" by Snow Patrol, which in itself is almost exactly the same tune as Streets.

forgot about "window in the skies ", that definitely has a Beatles sound to it.
Title: Re: U2's GRAMMY Awards results...
Post by: homing_pidgeon on January 31, 2010, 11:31:58 PM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.

...seriously? Other then the Streets vid, how?

My point is that all of contemporary music is based on a framework created by the Beatles if you want to trace it back far enough.

That framework is the musical world that we live in now and we're so familiar with it that we take it for granted.
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Post by: briscoetheque on January 31, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
Yet if U2 won a grammy today we'd all be saying how great it is and how this PROVES that they're still at the top of their game...

right?


 :D :D :D
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Post by: Springbok on January 31, 2010, 11:52:37 PM
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Yet if U2 won a grammy today we'd all be saying how great it is and how this PROVES that they're still at the top of their game...

right?


 :D :D :D

Ah yes - the other side of the coin. I think that would have been the case.... :P
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Post by: TyraRay on February 01, 2010, 12:04:22 AM
random.. but did anyone else think Pink was AMAZING?
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Post by: aurabender on February 01, 2010, 12:07:07 AM
Even though I really liked End of The Century, it is certainly not the creative piece of work the NLOTH. The problem I think would be trying to classify NLOTH. Century is much more of a "rock" album and of course you have Lady Gaga over in the "pop" category. The thing that makes NLOTH so interesting is also what would make it hard to put in any category. I will say that I think Greenday succeed better in tying the songs in their album together in a theme or creating an "album" of related songs more so than U2 did in their effort to do the same thing.
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Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on February 01, 2010, 12:44:15 AM
meh...grammies are overrated....besides, pop music actually wins awards there.    ??? ??? ???     pop + awards =  ??? ??? ???

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Post by: Aqua on February 01, 2010, 01:51:25 AM
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meh...grammies are overrated....besides, pop music actually wins awards there.    ??? ??? ???     pop + awards =  ??? ??? ???


Oh come on! U2 have won a ridiculous amount of grammys. The reason NLOTH didn't win any was because no one in the non U2fan public knew any songs off it... it would looked TERRIBLE if nloth STILL won. Nloth is definitely the best album of the past two years IMO though..
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 01, 2010, 02:39:01 AM
Guys, let's remember just this;

Achtung Baby won one grammy

How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb won nine

...That in itself should pretty comprehensively disprove the idea of the Grammies are an indicator of quality.

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Post by: Aqua on February 01, 2010, 02:54:28 AM
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Guys, let's remember just this;

Achtung Baby won one grammy

How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb won nine

...That in itself should pretty comprehensively disprove the idea of the Grammies are an indicator of quality.


They are NOT an indicator of quality. above proof is perfect.
But nloth didn't win because of it's comercial failure.
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Post by: TheFlyingLemon on February 01, 2010, 03:34:03 AM
I'm kinda happy U2 won 0 awards.  :)

To me, it's a good thing.
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Post by: Aqua on February 01, 2010, 03:46:03 AM
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I'm kinda happy U2 won 0 awards.  :)

To me, it's a good thing.
why?
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Post by: satellitedog01 on February 01, 2010, 05:57:11 AM
They can't rest on their laurels anymore.
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Post by: jackofhearts on February 01, 2010, 07:23:54 AM
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Sadly I think the grammys have just become one big circle jerk...

Look at the last 10-20 years for example, the best albums...

Eric Clapton, Bonnie Raitt, Quincy Jones, Natalie Cole, Tony Bennett, Bob Dylan, Steely Dan, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock, Robert Plant/Alison Krauss, Santana, that Band of Brothers thing...

Hardly pushing the boundaries of music production.

In fact, in the same way that portraying a one-legged mentally ill holocaust victim will GUARANTEE you an Oscar, any sort of collaboration with a music legend, duets, or posthumous releases will win you a Grammy.

I'll go out on a limb and say that if Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan release an album next year of whale songs, it will win best album.





Dylan put out an album this year and it wasn't even nominated for best album.  Check your facts first before you make statements like that. 
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Post by: U2Fan on February 01, 2010, 07:56:12 AM
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random.. but did anyone else think Pink was AMAZING?


Yes!
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Post by: U2Fan on February 01, 2010, 07:59:53 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
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Post by: Belisama on February 01, 2010, 08:38:04 AM
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random.. but did anyone else think Pink was AMAZING?


Yes!

I did think the stunt was impressive, however the whole time I was thinking "Is this the Grammys or Circus of the Stars?" I run hot and cold to Pink, I just didn't really care for that song. She can do so much better.
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Post by: Johnny Amsterdam on February 01, 2010, 08:43:50 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)

Why stop there? By that logic it should have gone to the Beatles.

...seriously? Other then the Streets vid, how?

Yeah, that's a stretch.....other than "Window in the Skies", their "Happiness is a Warm Gun" cover, the Streets vid, and I think a few quickshots of Sgt Pepper Beatles in the "Real Thing" vid, I don't see much of a direct musical or lyrical influence from the Beatles to U2. Bono likes to refer to them as idols on occasion, and shows a clear affection for John Lennon, but any influence in my opinion should be viewed as indirectly inspirational in the general rock and roll band sense.

On the other hand, "Use Somebody" is almost exactly the same tune as "Open your Eyes" by Snow Patrol, which in itself is almost exactly the same tune as Streets.

forgot about "window in the skies ", that definitely has a Beatles sound to it.

And of course the "Helter Skelter" cover on RnH.  :)
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Post by: MarlinsFan7 on February 01, 2010, 08:51:13 AM
Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial
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Post by: LOGAN B on February 01, 2010, 08:54:14 AM
If U2 hadn't already won an S load of grammies before then this would really suck. Why dont they recognize the albums that are more foward looking? I still can't believe HTDAAB won a grammy and AB didn't. I can't believe it. I cant.
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 08:54:55 AM
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Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial

21CB---Better rock album definitely. Deserves the best rock album nod.
NLOTH--Completely different genre than rock.  I think it's a slightly better overall album than 21CB. I loved NLOTH from the get-go and am just now starting to love 21CB. NLOTH was nominated in the wrong category.
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Post by: Springbok on February 01, 2010, 08:57:58 AM
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I'm kinda happy U2 won 0 awards.  :)

To me, it's a good thing.
why?

Maybe that is just the type of motivation they need to step it up. They always have this thing of needing to prove themselves, and maybe this is what will inspire them to produce an amazing next album.
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Post by: DGordon1 on February 01, 2010, 08:59:17 AM
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Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial

Please don't call someone naive if they like something you don't; it sounds very sanctimonious. I've heard 21st century breakdown a few times and for me it sounds like bog-standard Greenday b-sides. NLOTH has more imagination for me. Just my opinion though.
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Post by: DGordon1 on February 01, 2010, 09:04:09 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

Well what on Earth do Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga deserve? Do you think the Grammy's are reflective of the best music out there? So HTDAAB deserved its 5 and AB got what it deserved in zero? Or are you yet again being inconsistent in your arguments?
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Post by: Johnny Amsterdam on February 01, 2010, 09:11:48 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

Well what on Earth do Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga deserve? Do you think the Grammy's are reflective of the best music out there? So HTDAAB deserved its 5 and AB got what it deserved in zero? Or are you yet again being inconsistent in your arguments?
Lady gaga deserved it more than U2 cause at least she's trying to be original. u2 gave that up a decade ago
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 09:15:22 AM
HTDAAB and ATYCLB deserved all those Grammys 'cause they were original. Now I understand.  :)
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 09:17:31 AM
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HTDAAB and ATYCLB deserved all those Grammys 'cause they were original. Now I understand.  :)

HTDAAB was a real rock album.



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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

And once again we have JA logic; NLOTH did not win any because it did not deserve any, and Grammys are an indicator of quality. HTDAAB won a LOT ... but this does not mean it deserved them, because JA does not like it, and now Grammys are not an indicator of quality.  ::)
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Post by: DGordon1 on February 01, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

Well what on Earth do Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga deserve? Do you think the Grammy's are reflective of the best music out there? So HTDAAB deserved its 5 and AB got what it deserved in zero? Or are you yet again being inconsistent in your arguments?
Lady gaga deserved it more than U2 cause at least she's trying to be original. u2 gave that up a decade ago

Lady Gaga could have been made in a pop star factory she's that manufactured. And Taylor Swift? NLOTH has Fez/Being Born, Cedars of Lebanon and Moment of Surrender; all of which are much more creative than anything they've put out.
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Post by: Johnny Amsterdam on February 01, 2010, 09:29:01 AM
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

And once again we have JA logic; NLOTH did not win any because it did not deserve any, and Grammys are an indicator of quality. HTDAAB won a LOT ... but this does not mean it deserved them, because JA does not like it, and now Grammys are not an indicator of quality.  ::)
yep and now you've cracked "JA's holy code"
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 09:30:59 AM
Opposite land.  :)
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Man, the Grammys suck something awful this year, both in terms of nominees and performances. At least last year we had U2 and Radiohead to liven things up.

Last year's U2 performance of GOYB at Grammys was not so great (horrible IMHO).    Therefore, NLOTH got no Grammy love this year.
it didn't get any cause it didn't deserve any.

And once again we have JA logic; NLOTH did not win any because it did not deserve any, and Grammys are an indicator of quality. HTDAAB won a LOT ... but this does not mean it deserved them, because JA does not like it, and now Grammys are not an indicator of quality.  ::)
yep and now you've cracked "JA's holy code"

Except of course, for the fact that you claimed that the lack of Grammys indicated NLOTH's lack of quality.
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Post by: mariannemo on February 01, 2010, 09:57:45 AM
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Since Use Somebody is a near-direct ripoff of several Snow Patrol and Coldplay songs, who are two U2 ripoffs themselves, these awards might as well have gone to U2.  :D :D :D ;)
   I totally agree with you.
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Post by: imedi on February 01, 2010, 11:02:32 AM
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Guys, let's remember just this;

Achtung Baby won one grammy

How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb won nine

...That in itself should pretty comprehensively disprove the idea of the Grammies are an indicator of quality.


holy s$$$$t is that true woww then i agree its no where near and indicator of quality
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Post by: Utwoed on February 01, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
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Yet if U2 won a grammy today we'd all be saying how great it is and how this PROVES that they're still at the top of their game...

right?


 :D :D :D
Not for me.  I don't need award shows to tell me what's good music or not.  Why do people put so much emphasis on these dumb awards?  Sure, a win may sell a few thousand more records, but big whoop.  I guess U2 gets no credit for continously selling out, or close to selling out sometimes, the biggest stadiums in the world.

Over the decades the Grammy's have been hysterical.  I remember when rock artists never got nominated never mind win.  When I was youngin I'd watch it sometimes and get upset that some great rock band didn't win got beat out by some elevator shlock music artist.  I learned early on the Grammy's were a joke.  Ask Bruce Springsteen and his fans (me included) how many times he got shafted out of a win, and he's one of the greatest song writers ever.  

I don't think U2 is too heartbroken about this, especially with the most grammy's ever won a by group under their belts.
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Post by: Utwoed on February 01, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
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random.. but did anyone else think Pink was AMAZING?

Sorry, no!  She belongs in a Vegas stage show with that act.
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Post by: StrongGirl on February 01, 2010, 11:11:49 AM
Well I found the show to be boring-nothing too inspiring there! I think No Line is a beautiful album with so many layers no matter how many people dislike it . It doesn't need awards to be great. Look at what was winning!  No Line is above  a lot of that stuff.

If I wanted to see a person hanging from the ceiling I would have gotten tickets to Ringling Bros. for heaven's sake! Also, the 3D thing- the live audience had glasses but what about the rest of us. It was just a blurred mess to me. Was I absent the day 3D glasses were handed out for this telecast?!!  :D :D :D
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 11:13:46 AM
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Well I found the show to be boring-nothing too inspiring there! I think No Line is a beautiful album with so many layers no matter how many people dislike it . It doesn't need awards to be great. Look at what was winning!  No Line is above  a lot of that stuff.

If I wanted to see a person hanging from the ceiling I would have gotten tickets to Ringling Bros. for heaven's sake! Also, the 3D thing- the live audience had glasses but what about the rest of us. It was just a blurred mess to me. Was I absent the day 3D glasses were handed out for this telecast?!!  :D :D :D

I always flash back to the 97 MTV music video awards when I see something like this; a bunch of flavor of the month female rappers came out and did "Ladies Night" while wearing horrible Cleopatra type costumes; then U2 came out and did one of the best versions of Please I have ever heard.

NLOTH stands on its own merits.
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Post by: Belisama on February 01, 2010, 11:29:42 AM
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Well I found the show to be boring-nothing too inspiring there! I think No Line is a beautiful album with so many layers no matter how many people dislike it . It doesn't need awards to be great. Look at what was winning!  No Line is above  a lot of that stuff.

If I wanted to see a person hanging from the ceiling I would have gotten tickets to Ringling Bros. for heaven's sake! Also, the 3D thing- the live audience had glasses but what about the rest of us. It was just a blurred mess to me. Was I absent the day 3D glasses were handed out for this telecast?!!  :D :D :D

SG-- you rock!
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Post by: pfctsqr on February 01, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
U2 has deserved some of the Grammys they have won and Achtung SHOULD have won.  I think HTDAAB won because Vertigo was everywhere on TV and the RIAA doesnt need much of an excuse to hand a recognizable name like u2 an award.  But NLOTH won exactly the number of Grammy awards that it deserved.
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Post by: Belisama on February 01, 2010, 11:32:01 AM
What won over AB? Anyone know off the top of their head?
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 11:37:02 AM
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What won over AB? Anyone know off the top of their head?

Eric Clapton--Unplugged
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 11:37:43 AM
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 But NLOTH won exactly the number of Grammy awards that it deserved.

After last night the Grammys don't deserve NLOTH.  :D ;)
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Post by: Utwoed on February 01, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Here's a history of the Grammy's.  Look when 'rock' started finally getting recognized and who won.  It's a total joke! 
You can do a lot of research there if you're so inclined. 

http://www.rockonthenet.com/grammy/album.htm
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Post by: Belisama on February 01, 2010, 11:49:17 AM
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What won over AB? Anyone know off the top of their head?

Eric Clapton--Unplugged

Hmmmmm I hate to say this, but as much as I love Slowhand, No. AB was a better album.
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
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What won over AB? Anyone know off the top of their head?

Eric Clapton--Unplugged

Hmmmmm I hate to say this, but as much as I love Slowhand, No. AB was a better album.

Very much so. I actually liked Clapton's blues covers album "From the Cradle" better than Unplugged. But he got the sentimental vote and I don't begrudge him for it.
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Post by: ColseU2 on February 01, 2010, 12:05:16 PM
I like kings of leon and the song that won, i also like their old stuff and have seen them in concert but i would like to see them around as long as U2 have been and still produce the best music of all. When i went to see U2 i have never experienced anything like it, i was on that much of a high in the show that when i came out i was depressed because i would have to wait a long time to see them again.
When i came out from the KOL concert i was like yerr that was good, played well there was NOT same feeling as when i came out from wembley to see U2 and i believe they will never be able to reach that and make their audiences have goosebumps all over their bodies when watching them in concert or even on youtube
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What won over AB? Anyone know off the top of their head?

Eric Clapton--Unplugged

Hmmmmm I hate to say this, but as much as I love Slowhand, No. AB was a better album.

Very much so. I actually liked Clapton's blues covers album "From the Cradle" better than Unplugged. But he got the sentimental vote and I don't begrudge him for it.

That is a hard one to argue, kind of like the whole Heath Ledge/Robert Downy Oscar race-- easier to argue well after the fact.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
This much I know, Al Pacino should have won the best actor academy award in 1975.



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Post by: zooey on February 01, 2010, 12:46:57 PM
If Taylor Swift is was earns a Grammy nowadays, I hope U2 never gets another one.  I'd never heard her before until last night.  She was flat and had no color to her voice. If she auditioned for me, she wouldn't get a call back.

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Post by: Terrasidius on February 01, 2010, 01:05:37 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 01, 2010, 01:20:11 PM
I think people may be over-optimistic in reading that this will show U2 not to rest on their laurels, since NLOTH was hardly that.

All I'm saying is, look what happened the LAST time they made an album that didn't sell as well and was spurned by some critics (Although NLOTH, like Pop, has also recieved HUGE and well-deserved acclaim for others) and awards. NLOTH was the first time since Pop they really went outside their comfort zone even a bit- this could easily force them right back in.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 01:25:37 PM
I wish people would give U2 some credit.  They're not idiots you know.
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Post by: ColseU2 on February 01, 2010, 01:28:51 PM
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I wish people would give U2 some credit.  They're not idiots you know.

exactly they are the worlds biggest rock band they are allowed what some people call a blip personally i think every album has its positives and negatives
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 01:31:03 PM
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I think people may be over-optimistic in reading that this will show U2 not to rest on their laurels, since NLOTH was hardly that.

All I'm saying is, look what happened the LAST time they made an album that didn't sell as well and was spurned by some critics (Although NLOTH, like Pop, has also recieved HUGE and well-deserved acclaim for others) and awards. NLOTH was the first time since Pop they really went outside their comfort zone even a bit- this could easily force them right back in.

And therein lieth the U2 Dilemma, Patent Pending. Go adventurous and experimental and risk losing fans, or play it safe and gain new ones while alienating the hardcore fanbase.  U2 knows what they're doing. This time they had songs of both kinds on one album. Worked for me and 4 million others. But even if it worked for 100 others they followed their muse.
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Post by: Belisama on February 01, 2010, 02:16:50 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)

I really don't think they were sitting on their laurels with NLOTH. If they had put out another HTDAAB, then that would have been laurel sitting. They tried something different. They didn't go for the obvious.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 02:21:53 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)

I really don't think they were sitting on their laurels with NLOTH. If they had put out another HTDAAB, then that would have been laurel sitting. They tried something different. They didn't go for the obvious.

U2 have never released an album that sounds like it's predecessor.  That's part of their greatness.



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Post by: Achtung Bubba on February 01, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)

I really don't think they were sitting on their laurels with NLOTH. If they had put out another HTDAAB, then that would have been laurel sitting. They tried something different. They didn't go for the obvious.

U2 have never released an album that sounds like it's predecessor.  That's part of their greatness.

In 2001, I would have agreed with this statement.  Now, I don't.

Especially in terms of its singles, HTDAAB is a rehash of ATYCLB:  Vertigo = Elevation, SYCMIOYO = SIAMYCGOO.

No Line is essentially The Unforgetable Fire without the singles, or the Passengers album without the cajones.
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Post by: Johnny Amsterdam on February 01, 2010, 02:48:19 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)

I really don't think they were sitting on their laurels with NLOTH. If they had put out another HTDAAB, then that would have been laurel sitting. They tried something different. They didn't go for the obvious.

U2 have never released an album that sounds like it's predecessor.  That's part of their greatness.

In 2001, I would have agreed with this statement.  Now, I don't.

Especially in terms of its singles, HTDAAB is a rehash of ATYCLB:  Vertigo = Elevation, SYCMIOYO = SIAMYCGOO.

No Line is essentially The Unforgetable Fire without the singles, or the Passengers album without the cajones.
If It's Passengers (which I actually find an insult to that sometimes brilliant album) than it's Passengers without the balls, creativity and the honesty. Passengers is U2's superior electronic experimental album. It's a band at the height of their creativity. ATYCLB, BOMB and No line is a band at their lowest point of creativity. Bomb and No line are actually the most directionless U2 albums around. Behind at least has the big toning down and selling out and beggin on their knees for their fans to come back, populism factor going for it. And that's a compliment.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 02:51:27 PM
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They can't rest on their laurels anymore.

Exactly!  :)

I really don't think they were sitting on their laurels with NLOTH. If they had put out another HTDAAB, then that would have been laurel sitting. They tried something different. They didn't go for the obvious.

U2 have never released an album that sounds like it's predecessor.  That's part of their greatness.

In 2001, I would have agreed with this statement.  Now, I don't.

Especially in terms of its singles, HTDAAB is a rehash of ATYCLB:  Vertigo = Elevation, SYCMIOYO = SIAMYCGOO.

No Line is essentially The Unforgetable Fire without the singles, or the Passengers album without the cajones.

I don't think we've been listening to the same albums ???
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Post by: satellitedog01 on February 01, 2010, 04:05:34 PM
Wow, this ones a real mindbender. Probly for the band themselves a lot more so.
Yeah I find No Line a half step in the right direction, but it really isn't enough for a statement of musical bravura or courage for me at least.

I was able to enjoy No Line far more than the last two (serious midlife crisis to need 2 albums to bounce back), but was baffled by the inclusion of some overbaked leftover feeling stuff like Breathe and Stand Up Comedy and underdeveloped throwaway like Being Born. Not to mention hearing the snippets of original jams from Fez, which had real life in them compared to what made it onto the album.
Once again, U2 are in the position where they can go into full throttle experimentation, no one will mistake them for another band...
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Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 01, 2010, 04:07:27 PM
It's like NLOTH is one step forward, 2 steps back. *shrugs*
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Post by: Johnny Amsterdam on February 01, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
The next album better be good. (although after three very mediocre albums in a row I doubt it)
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 04:42:23 PM
contra
contra
contradiction is the place to be


Bono quoting Sam Shepard
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 01, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Congratulations to Beyonce 8)


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Post by: happyme on February 01, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
All though this is my first post here i have been a long time reader of these fourms,
i just felt the need to add my 2cents worth to this topic,of the guys getting shut out of the awards,do u really think that they care
obvisouly not as they didnt even turn up,& i have read ab out bono sounding of about these awards any way.
as for the people who reackon that they are getting to old,please correct me if im wrong but from what i saw,elton john helped open the show=older in 70's
the boss one one=older in 60"s
acdc one=older in60's
judas priest one one=older in 60's
thet are just a few examples that i found,so there all i have to add is that the american music secne is in trouble if you have to award a trany like ga-ga,kol & that joke greenday.
i for one love NLOTH have not take it of my stero since it came out find it much better than the last 2
also last thought would you americans please take back pink ther alot of as aussies that really dont like that type of muzack ::)
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Post by: bloom on February 01, 2010, 06:36:57 PM
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Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial

Please don't call someone naive if they like something you don't; it sounds very sanctimonious. I've heard 21st century breakdown a few times and for me it sounds like bog-standard Greenday b-sides. NLOTH has more imagination for me. Just my opinion though.

I second DCGordon's request!
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 06:53:14 PM
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Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial

Please don't call someone naive if they like something you don't; it sounds very sanctimonious. I've heard 21st century breakdown a few times and for me it sounds like bog-standard Greenday b-sides. NLOTH has more imagination for me. Just my opinion though.

I second DCGordon's request!

I'll third it. As a supposed card-carrying member of the U2 militia, it gets really tiring to get accused of telling people they can't have an opinion when nothing of that sort is taking place. But then to be referred to as "naive" and "in denial" because I like a particular album? Wow. I dont mind people running around on this forum who can't articulate anything beyond "it sucks" and "it makes me want to barf". That's what opinions are for. But keep your names and personal judgments to yourself.
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Post by: briscoetheque on February 01, 2010, 06:59:39 PM
I too thought NLOTH was a better album than Green Day's.

But I really think the Grammys are fast becoming a joke.
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Post by: Luis Youtwo on February 01, 2010, 07:00:52 PM
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All though this is my first post here i have been a long time reader of these fourms,
i just felt the need to add my 2cents worth to this topic,of the guys getting shut out of the awards,do u really think that they care
obvisouly not as they didnt even turn up,& i have read ab out bono sounding of about these awards any way.
as for the people who reackon that they are getting to old,please correct me if im wrong but from what i saw,elton john helped open the show=older in 70's
the boss one one=older in 60"s
acdc one=older in60's
judas priest one one=older in 60's
thet are just a few examples that i found,so there all i have to add is that the american music secne is in trouble if you have to award a trany like ga-ga,kol & that joke greenday.
i for one love NLOTH have not take it of my stero since it came out find it much better than the last 2
also last thought would you americans please take back pink ther alot of as aussies that really dont like that type of muzack ::)

Hey Happy me welcome to the forum there is a section where you can say hi to everyone ,
im an Aussie to cool more Aussies .
now i remember New introductions its called its on the home page at the top .
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Post by: Luis Youtwo on February 01, 2010, 07:03:04 PM
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I too thought NLOTH was a better album than Green Day's.

But I really think the Grammys are fast becoming a joke.
Milli Vanilli won a grammy thats what i think about the grammys  ;)
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Post by: bloom on February 01, 2010, 07:05:41 PM
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Honestly, I love U2 more than any band...

but NLOTH did not deserve best rock album of the year, and I'm really happy that 21st century breakdown won... that album was by far one of the greatest albums i've heard in a loooooong time.

Don't get me wrong, U2 is ten times better than Green Day, but I'm not gonna be naive and in denial

Please don't call someone naive if they like something you don't; it sounds very sanctimonious. I've heard 21st century breakdown a few times and for me it sounds like bog-standard Greenday b-sides. NLOTH has more imagination for me. Just my opinion though.

I second DCGordon's request!

I'll third it. As a supposed card-carrying member of the U2 militia, it gets really tiring to get accused of telling people they can't have an opinion when nothing of that sort is taking place. But then to be referred to as "naive" and "in denial" because I like a particular album? Wow. I dont mind people running around on this forum who can't articulate anything beyond "it sucks" and "it makes me want to barf". That's what opinions are for. But keep your names and personal judgments to yourself.

Well said!

I share your weariness, but admire your perseverance!  :)

Also, Hello and welcome Happyme!
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Post by: Revolver7 on February 01, 2010, 07:06:25 PM
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I'll third it. As a supposed card-carrying member of the U2 militia, it gets really tiring to get accused of telling people they can't have an opinion when nothing of that sort is taking place. But then to be referred to as "naive" and "in denial" because I like a particular album? Wow. I dont mind people running around on this forum who can't articulate anything beyond "it sucks" and "it makes me want to barf". That's what opinions are for. But keep your names and personal judgments to yourself.

X4, man. U2 aside, I just agree with this on principle alone
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Post by: Miami66 on February 01, 2010, 07:07:18 PM
I was disappointed that U2 didn't win a single grammy last night. I also thought they should have been nominated for album of the year. I also think that HTDAAB deserved all of the Grammys that it won. I'm just really upset that the DMB got a nod for album of the year and not NLOTH.
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Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on February 01, 2010, 07:10:12 PM
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I also thought they should have been nominated for album of the year.

Howdy Bloom!

miami66, this is where I was coming from. NLOTH is no more or less of a rock album than Dark Side of the Moon.  ;)
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Post by: Miami66 on February 01, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
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I also thought they should have been nominated for album of the year.

Howdy Bloom!

miami66, this is where I was coming from. NLOTH is no more or less of a rock album than Dark Side of the Moon.  ;)

I agree  :D
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Post by: TheFlyingLemon on February 02, 2010, 01:24:06 AM
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The next album better be good. (although after three very mediocre albums in a row I doubt it)

But I'm sure you've already made up your mind on it, Johnny!

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I too thought NLOTH was a better album than Green Day's.

But I really think the Grammys are fast becoming a joke.

Hence why I'm not fussed that they didn't win one!


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Post by: emalvick on February 04, 2010, 04:18:02 PM
I am actually glad U2 didn't win a Grammy. 

The fact that the Grammies are a bit meaningless means that U2 winning one is meaningless.  Unfortunately, it seems that at about the time the Grammies really started going downhill coincides to the time when U2 became obsessed with them. 

The thing I liked about an album like the Joshua Tree was that it wasn't trying to win awards; it was just good and U2 won them.  Achtung Baby is perhaps the ultimate example of U2 not trying to win awards, and while they did not win album of the year, they were nominated and they did win other major awards.  Achtung Baby is also an excellent example of U2 experimenting and succeeding on a commercial level.  People are so hung up on Pop's supposed failure (including U2) that they forget where U2 came from before that. 

I really like ATYCLB when it came out because it was a step back and actually a well written album in some regards, but now that I see where that led, I am more unhappy about it.  I am happy when I see U2 succeed commercially, but the quality means more.  In that regard, I find No Line a great album.  I love some of the songs on there, and I can care less whether any are hits.  If I remember right, Bad was never really a hit.  It was a great album track that endures because of its fantastic lyrics and sound.  I don't see songs like Magnificent or Moment of Surrender as much different, although I'll admit that takes away a bit as well with No Line.

I do find that No Line has elements of the Unforgettable Fire and I suppose if one really stretches it, Passengers.  The reality is that those two albums just really show a Brian Eno influence just like this album does during its moments.  At the same time, I find that all three of those albums as most other U2 albums tend to stand apart, and it really is a matter of taste on which albums are better.  Passengers was really a step outside the box to the point U2 didn't call it a U2 album.  So, U2 had some cajones, but not enough impress me as if they would have called it a U2 album.  No Line shows that they may still have them, but then they throw in a few obvious Pop tracks in Crazy, Comedy, and Boots (the non Eno tracks) that make me wonder.