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Title: Bono Surgery
Post by: Vox on May 21, 2010, 08:57:24 AM
Yikes!  http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=10709729  Wonder how this will effect the tour-- I have tickets at the end of June.  Most importantly, I hope he's alright.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 21, 2010, 09:03:01 AM
:( Oh no. Eff.  No bueno. Will def. say a prayer.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Bads316 on May 21, 2010, 09:11:00 AM
Fingers crossed for the big man.
Title: the surgery!!!
Post by: Boy83 on May 21, 2010, 09:12:58 AM
I can't believe this! how long do you think it'll take for him to recuperate? Live nation has already anounced postponing the SLC show!!! Anyone have more details on this?

BONO GET WELL SOON!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Wanderer on May 21, 2010, 09:15:52 AM
They just postponed Salt Lake City.

Following Bono's unexpected back surgery earlier today, Live Nation confirmed that the U2 U2360° tour launch previously scheduled for June 3rd in Salt Lake City has been postponed.

U2 fans with tickets to the June 3rd event are encouraged to retain tickets until updated show information can be provided.

Additional tour information will be forthcoming
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 21, 2010, 09:16:49 AM
Oh dang thats expected & understandable.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Poor Bono.  It must be pretty bad too.  Let's all pray really hard for his recovery.
Title: Re: the surgery!!!
Post by: TyraRay on May 21, 2010, 09:19:04 AM
Omg. Omg I kinda have tears in my eyes
LMFAO what a HORRID WAY TO START MY MORNING :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Dream Out Loud on May 21, 2010, 09:22:57 AM
this has to be somewhat emergency surgery as surely he would have scheduled it better had he known it was coming.  i wonder if he has a chronic problem that finally crossed the line or whether there was a more recent, acute injury.

best of luck to Bono.

the article cut off on me.  I think the part that was cut off was, "Bono was injured while stage diving during 10 minute epic version of Bad with a full Red Hill Mining Town played in the middle of the song."
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: teresa_88 on May 21, 2010, 09:24:55 AM
so sad to read this :(

I really hope he can get back in top shape soon. Can't believe he had to undergo surgery. :(

sending well-being thoughts to Mr Bono. And hoping to hear good news about him asap
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Boy83 on May 21, 2010, 09:29:24 AM
An audio statement from paul mcguinness on u2.com. No new info or details on what happened or Bono's state. But he did mention "dates" to be rescheduled so, I'm assuming recovery time will be longer than just a few days.

I hope Bono is ok though... that's whats more important.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Passenger84 on May 21, 2010, 09:33:01 AM
Prayers your way, Mr. Bono. If you have to reschedule Anaheim, that's okay. It'll just make me more stoked to see you guys whenever it's rescheduled.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 09:36:49 AM
We need to think of a way to get together and pray for Mr. B.  Back surgery is a scary deal. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: teresa_88 on May 21, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
yeah i noticed Paul saying "dateS", too... we'll see.

Must admit, travelling from europe to see them in anaheim, and get a rischedule, worries me more than a bit.

But bottom line is, that the most important thing is to make sure that Bono recovers well. :)

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 21, 2010, 09:38:54 AM
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We need to think of a way to get together and pray for Mr. B.  Back surgery is a scary deal. 

Sure we could all arrange a virtual prayer circle.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Big Girls Are Best on May 21, 2010, 09:40:40 AM
Get well, Bono!  Here's a little thought from Kite to cheer you up...

Something is about to give
I can feel it coming
I think I know what it is
I'm not afraid to die
I'm not afraid to live
And when I'm flat on my back
I hope to feel like I did
'Cause hardness, it sets in
You need some... surgery!

 ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 21, 2010, 09:43:17 AM
I posted something in the Walk On thread if anyone wants to add their thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
Oh my God!!!  :'( Poor Bono  :( :( I hope he gets well soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Bads316 on May 21, 2010, 09:51:02 AM
Glastonbury? :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
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We need to think of a way to get together and pray for Mr. B.  Back surgery is a scary deal. 

Sure we could all arrange a virtual prayer circle.

Yes, let's!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: robert on May 21, 2010, 10:00:57 AM
I hope he recovers soon as we all do but, I can't help but think what he was doing? Have U2 got some new flying bono heavy metal like stage trick now?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: eddyjedi on May 21, 2010, 10:03:25 AM
Glastonbury could be a problem....
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 10:03:53 AM
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I hope he recovers soon as we all do but, I can't help but think what he was doing? Have U2 got some new flying bono heavy metal like stage trick now?

I know, I was wondering the same thing. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: julesport on May 21, 2010, 10:05:24 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with Bono..........sad news  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: An Cat Dubh on May 21, 2010, 10:07:55 AM
Get well soon Bono, jeez I feel for you.

Folks, all thoughts need to be with Bono on this (and of course they all are). Until a statement is released on U2.com about the seriousness of his injury, we all need to keep our fingers crossed for him. Trust me, talking from experience, if his injury was a serious one, recuperation from major back surgery can take up to 12 months!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: onetreehill on May 21, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
Please, Please, Please be ok! Know you are lifted by the love of your fans in these times Mr. Bman!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: onetreehill on May 21, 2010, 10:10:08 AM
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Get well soon Bono, jeez I feel for you.

Folks, all thoughts need to be with Bono on this (and of course they all are). Until a statement is released on U2.com about the seriousness of his injury, we all need to keep our fingers crossed for him. Trust me, talking from experience, if his injury was a serious one, recuperation from major back surgery can take up to 12 months!!


Hi Zoost!! ((HUGS)))

yes a friend of mine it took 6 months of healing..................
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: An Cat Dubh on May 21, 2010, 10:10:20 AM
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Please, Please, Please be ok! Know you are lifted by the love of your fans in these times Mr. Bman!

Well said. Hi OTH, missed you.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: An Cat Dubh on May 21, 2010, 10:10:58 AM
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Get well soon Bono, jeez I feel for you.

Folks, all thoughts need to be with Bono on this (and of course they all are). Until a statement is released on U2.com about the seriousness of his injury, we all need to keep our fingers crossed for him. Trust me, talking from experience, if his injury was a serious one, recuperation from major back surgery can take up to 12 months!!


Hi Zoost!! ((HUGS)))

yes a friend of mine it took 6 months of healing..................

Meet me in the OLC so we keep this thread about Bono  :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: rattleandhum24 on May 21, 2010, 10:15:47 AM
Get well Bono! We need you to lead us in the most holy act of rock 'n' roll!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 21, 2010, 10:16:19 AM
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this has to be somewhat emergency surgery as surely he would have scheduled it better had he known it was coming.  i wonder if he has a chronic problem that finally crossed the line or whether there was a more recent, acute injury.

best of luck to Bono.

the article cut off on me.  I think the part that was cut off was, "Bono was injured while stage diving during 10 minute epic version of Bad with a full Red Hill Mining Town played in the middle of the song."

Well , someone here mentioned Bono hurting his back on our forum a couple of days ago. I don't remember what thread or who said it. Apparently there were rumors about it. Bono did look like he was in pain to me in recent photos but  I could not find any facts to back it up. So I tend to think it was a problem that crossed the line , Dream Out Loud. Just my opinion though.

I wish him a speedy recovery. His health and family are the most important things right now.

I do hope this does not put a financial hardship on anyone for the canceled concert as well.

As far as recovery time.....in my past experience with friends and family who have had back surgery, recovery is along the lines of 6 months. Of course, each case is different. SG

Hi onetree and zoost!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 10:17:14 AM
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Get well soon Bono, jeez I feel for you.

Folks, all thoughts need to be with Bono on this (and of course they all are). Until a statement is released on U2.com about the seriousness of his injury, we all need to keep our fingers crossed for him. Trust me, talking from experience, if his injury was a serious one, recuperation from major back surgery can take up to 12 months!!

Please, please PLEASE let it be not too serious. Hopefully, he's recovery will be quick.  :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: KatiemL on May 21, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
I am in tears, was supposed to see U2 in Denver June 12, wonder if that one will be rescheduled too. You are in my prayers, Bono, many hugggggs and get well soon.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 10:26:03 AM
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I am in tears, was supposed to see U2 in Denver June 12, wonder if that one will be rescheduled too. You are in my prayers, Bono, many hugggggs and get well soon.

Me too - all we had left to do was book our flight. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 21, 2010, 10:28:11 AM
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I am in tears, was supposed to see U2 in Denver June 12, wonder if that one will be rescheduled too. You are in my prayers, Bono, many hugggggs and get well soon.

Me too - all we had left to do was book our flight. 

Consider yourself lucky.  I have flights, hotels, cars, and everything else booked already for Anaheim.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 21, 2010, 10:28:57 AM
I just read that the claw is being dismantled in SLC.   :o
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 10:30:03 AM
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I just read that the claw is being dismantled in SLC.   :o

What?! Where did you read that?!?!?!?! :o
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 21, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
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I just read that the claw is being dismantled in SLC.   :o

What?! Where did you read that?!?!?!?! :o

Considering the show is already postponed, I don't see how this is surprising.  I guess they could just leave it up for people to look at  :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: WhildHoney on May 21, 2010, 10:37:04 AM
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I just read that the claw is being dismantled in SLC.   :o

What?! Where did you read that?!?!?!?! :o
I don't know where it started, but it's all over Twitter and things... :-\
 :'(
I really really really hope this isn't too serious. Get well soon Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 21, 2010, 10:41:07 AM
Wow, what a horible birthday present :'( :'( :'(

Get well soon Bono.  Who cares about the tour.  All I care about is you getting better
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 21, 2010, 10:43:06 AM
Here is the thread where we first heard of this rumor by forum member Magnificent1 .  The thread is now locked so you can continue the discussions here but I thought you may like to see this.

http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,11917.0.html
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 21, 2010, 10:49:45 AM
I've been training the new VISTAs all morning and just now heard about this. I truly hope the surgery goes well and he makes a full recovery.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LOGAN B on May 21, 2010, 10:54:21 AM
I wonder if he took a fall while hangin on that steering wheel mic. have a quick and speedy recovery Bono. We'll be praying for you.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Trash Trampoline on May 21, 2010, 10:57:36 AM
According to the Irish Times latest report...Bono to spend next few days in Munich hospital before Doctors can fully assess the success of the surgery and presumably more accurately assess recuperation time involved....

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0521/breaking58.html
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 21, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
My prayers, love, and best wishes for Bono.....
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: chels82 on May 21, 2010, 11:09:29 AM
As someone who works with a lot of back surgery patients, it's very likely the first half of the tour will be postponed.  There is no way he'll feel well enough to be on stage for the length of the show and if he was, he'd have to alternate standing/sitting.  It will not be the Bono that we're used to seeing on stage.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but this is the reality of back surgery. 

I have tickets to Oakland and Seattle.  I'll still be going up to Seattle, regardless of the show being cancelled. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on May 21, 2010, 11:10:28 AM
I have a ton of flights bought and paid for right now.

I hope B is going to be okay.

Solo Edge acoustic tour?  I'm in.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 21, 2010, 11:13:38 AM
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I have a ton of flights bought and paid for right now.

I hope B is going to be okay.

Solo Edge acoustic tour?  I'm in.

That would be wonderful until Bono gets well , EF. So sorry for you and other fans who have money invested in this. I really am. Of course Bono's health is the most important. I know he will give us all our concerts when he is able. We will have to be patient.
 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on May 21, 2010, 11:18:21 AM
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We need to think of a way to get together and pray for Mr. B.  Back surgery is a scary deal. 
Sure we could all arrange a virtual prayer circle.
Yes, let's!!
I'm definitely IN ~ should we start a prayer chain thread?  Should we pick a certain time like 8 hours from now to all stop and petition God?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 11:21:09 AM
Yes to that ^
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Yukona [The League of Extraordinary Bonopeople] on May 21, 2010, 11:24:44 AM
Crap I really hope he's alright. At least it's not life-threatening or anything. :( What a horrible way to start your 50th year.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 21, 2010, 11:25:10 AM
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We need to think of a way to get together and pray for Mr. B.  Back surgery is a scary deal. 
Sure we could all arrange a virtual prayer circle.
Yes, let's!!
I'm definitely IN ~ should we start a prayer chain thread?  Should we pick a certain time like 8 hours from now to all stop and petition God?

We have a thread called Walk On Support Thread where we send prayers and/or positive thoughts out . It is in Real World and we already started to pray for Bono there.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Achtungbaby23 on May 21, 2010, 11:36:15 AM
I sure hope he has a speedy recovery but it when it comes to back surgery I'm not so sure that's possible.  A thought just occured to me I'd like to share.  Maybe he is going to be out for the year to get healthy and tour ready.  Maybe Songs of Ascent could be released right after Thanksgiving for the holidays, have some radio hits and then take that beast of a stage back out to promote the new album at the beginning of 2011.  It's a long time from now and it sucks for all the people with plane tickets and hotel rooms, I feel horrible for those of you.  I had the thought and thought it could be a bright side to the situation.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 11:39:44 AM
hope so AB...you never know.  maybe this is what will give the band an incentive to start thinking and creating new music again.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 21, 2010, 11:44:27 AM
I think I'm like a lot of people in that my heart goes out to Bono- and my head unfortunately immediately leaps to "But will he be better for MY show?" But I also think I'm like pretty much everyone here in saying that this more selfish impulse is pretty immediately curtailed; I wish him a speedy, healthy and full recovery, and may he take as much time our as he needs to for it. His health is first and foremost the most important thing!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Curlin on May 21, 2010, 11:45:53 AM
Right, there is no way he's going to be able to perform in the next month. I have tickets to see U2 in Chicago, but under no circumstances do I want Bono to be pushing himself to be well for the tour if he's in pain after the surgery. He has to think of his health first. I'd be surprised if the whole tour wasn't pushed back to next year. I just hope he recovers well. My thoughts are with the B man.

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As someone who works with a lot of back surgery patients, it's very likely the first half of the tour will be postponed.  There is no way he'll feel well enough to be on stage for the length of the show and if he was, he'd have to alternate standing/sitting.  It will not be the Bono that we're used to seeing on stage.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but this is the reality of back surgery. 

I have tickets to Oakland and Seattle.  I'll still be going up to Seattle, regardless of the show being cancelled. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 21, 2010, 11:46:48 AM
I would rather have a healthy Bono on stage next year (if this leg gets postponed til then) than an injured Bono on stage this summer.  I think we can all agree on that
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 21, 2010, 11:51:16 AM
If you would like to post your best wishes to Bono, we started our own @U2 Get Well Card in the Band Section. Here is the link for you. 

Discussions may continue here though. Thanks!

http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,11953.msg661397.html#new
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 21, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
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I would rather have a healthy Bono on stage next year (if this leg gets postponed til then) than an injured Bono on stage this summer.  I think we can all agree on that

Yep. co-sign.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 11:55:54 AM
Yes. ^^  Plus you never know...maybe he'll think of new songs while he's in bed.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Womando on May 21, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
I hope all goes well for our favorite front man!! But let's not jump to conclusions. We don't know how involved his back surgery is. His recovery may not be as long as some of you are speculating. I'm hoping that is the case. It completely depends on the extent of his injury, and how involved the surgery is. ???

But right now I'm completely DEVASTATED!! I was going to fly to SLC w/ my daughter, to take her to her 1st U2 concert! I don't know if I can afford to change my plane tickets!! And yet I'm with the rest of you who do not want him to return too prematurely, and risk further injury. Will he ever dance again???......oh yea, he can't dance anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
^hopefully.  at the very best, the june concerts will be off.  even if he recovers in a week (which is unlikely).  theres no way he could run around stage and do so much physical activity only three or four weeks after surgery.  it WOULD be funny if he were so determined to put on the show, he came out in a wheelchair and sang.  all i know is, whenever the tour does come about, it's going to be one of the most amazing tours yet.  there'll be so much love from fans...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 21, 2010, 12:06:41 PM
I posted this in the main Bono thread but I'm posting here too. Beli and I thought that it would be a fabulous idea for us to have a ZooTV viewing gathering/prayer party tonight. We are aiming for 9:00pm EST for anyone who would like to join us.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 12:07:34 PM
Im in...more like 10 EST, but I'll be there for the last half.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 21, 2010, 12:08:54 PM
It's been noted that the claw is heading for Minneapolis- which is the gig after Glastonbury. With Bono being Bono, I wouldn't be surprised if he was absolutely determined that come hell or high water, he would be back in time for Glasto, and they may use it to restart the tour. But that totally depends on whether or not he's capable!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 21, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
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It's been noted that the claw is heading for Minneapolis- which is the gig after Glastonbury. With Bono being Bono, I wouldn't be surprised if he was absolutely determined that come hell or high water, he would be back in time for Glasto, and they may use it to restart the tour. But that totally depends on whether or not he's capable!

where did you hear this?!?!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 12:12:08 PM
just saw that on twitter TUC.  we dont know what bono's condition is exactly, so its possible.  Glastonbury would be the best place to 'restart' the tour.  Haha.  Funny.  Restart and reboot yourself...


oh TUC, were temporarily the League of Extraordinary BonoPeople right now...us and the Bonogirls united.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 21, 2010, 12:19:50 PM
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It's been noted that the claw is heading for Minneapolis- which is the gig after Glastonbury. With Bono being Bono, I wouldn't be surprised if he was absolutely determined that come hell or high water, he would be back in time for Glasto, and they may use it to restart the tour. But that totally depends on whether or not he's capable!

where did you hear this?!?!

As RTSS says, twitter:

"@u2start a truck driver leaving slc w/ part of the claw confirmed w/ me headed to Minneapolis."

...And thanks, RTSS!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 21, 2010, 12:22:53 PM
Oh wow, the entire US leg might not be in jeapordy after all
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on May 21, 2010, 12:25:29 PM
That is some positive news... I hope they can do Edmonton though!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Scotty on May 21, 2010, 12:36:11 PM
lots of discussion going on  at this facegroup page

http://www.facebook.com/pages/u2-360-tour-2010/231944200224
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MoodyGirl09 on May 21, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Hopefully it isn't anything too serious, and his recovery is a relatively speedy one.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: magnificent1 on May 21, 2010, 12:53:45 PM
Oh this is not good. . . I guess my posts about this speculation a few days back on "The Band" forum did in fact turn out to be true. How heartbreaking! I feel for him and am sending him healing energy and will continue to do so. A virtual prayer circle is a great idea. Thank you Strong Girl for starting the card for him. How do you see that he gets it?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Lebowski on May 21, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
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But let's not jump to conclusions. We don't know how involved his back surgery is. His recovery may not be as long as some of you are speculating. 

True, but if your back is that messed up as to require surgery, that ain't good.  I cannot imagine any back surgery that would result in a quick recovery.  But we shall see.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 21, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
Twitter saying next official update will prob be Monday.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Tumbling Dice on May 21, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
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But let's not jump to conclusions. We don't know how involved his back surgery is. His recovery may not be as long as some of you are speculating. 

True, but if your back is that messed up as to require surgery, that ain't good.  I cannot imagine any back surgery that would result in a quick recovery.  But we shall see.



I agree.  Most surgeons wouldn't go near the back unless invasive surgery was necessary because of the risks involved.  Also I understand that Bono is being treated at a neuro centre which would suggest that it involved the spinal column.  Although medical science is capable of performing near miracles these days, people shouldn't assume that all problems can be resolved completely.  Bono may require revision surgery if the initial surgery wasn't successful which would mean  an even longer recuperation period.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jayb77 on May 21, 2010, 02:10:17 PM
i feel bad for all you people with txts. i got to see them twice last summer in london and i would have been heartbroken if them concerts had been pulled. but i cant see how he's going to be ready for at least a couple of weeks and maybe glasto will be the come back show as its just a short trip from dublin. Which will be much less pain for him unlike having to fly across to the US. fingers crossed people and get well Bono!!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: homerly on May 21, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
Please get well very soon !!!!!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 21, 2010, 02:27:49 PM
OMG!  This is terrible!  :'( :'( :'(   GET WELL SOON BONO!  Thanks SG for starting the card and I'll definitely sign it too. 

As others have said - what's most important is Bono recover fully and that will more than likely take time.  Better to recover and rehabilitate completely than push it too much by touring too soon.    We'll all figure it out with rescheduling and rebooking and I wish him the very best. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ElJayVee on May 21, 2010, 02:41:53 PM
"Yikes" is right.  On a positive note, any postponement of the Edmonton show will be a relief for me - it was shaping up to be a crazy week.

Speedy recovery, Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Parkhead080893 on May 21, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Sky news are saying "U2 have been forced to postpone the next leg of their world tour " Is this just speculation at this point ?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: CrossingGo on May 21, 2010, 02:49:39 PM
As someone who has been dealing with chronic back pain for longer than I've been a U2 fan and sever back pain for a year and a half now, I just want to say I can't imagine keeping Bono's schedule, career and family life while enduring this agony all the time. As a U2 fan in general I want to send my positive thoughts and wishes to Bono and the band and his family. Please take good care, millions of people are thinking of you!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 21, 2010, 02:52:23 PM
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Sky news are saying "U2 have been forced to postpone the next leg of their world tour " Is this just speculation at this point ?

Its speculation.  Wait for the official word.  That said, I concur with others here that back surgery does take time to recover properly and with a LOT of rehab.  So I'm hoping he doesn't rush it and he puts his health first and foremost & before others.  We need Larry & Ali to make sure he does that!   :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mojo-jojo on May 21, 2010, 03:03:34 PM
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-[  I am so sad!  Get well soon Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: bloom on May 21, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
Poor Bono! I hope he's not in a lot of pain, has lots of people around him to keep him distracted, and knows how many people all over the world are thinking about him and sending him their thoughts and prayers. I'm sure he has excellent people looking after him, so that's good. I agree with everyone who says it's better he takes the time he needs to recover rather than trying to rush back into performing. I mean, he doesn't exactly take it easy when he's on stage, does he?

I also hope maybe the surgery will help address some of the chronic problems he's been having, as detailed on the home page. Maybe when the tour does resume, he'll be in better shape than ever! Whatever the case, I hope his recovery is speedy and smooth.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: birdlover on May 21, 2010, 03:07:25 PM
GET WELL SOON BONO!

I agree with so many of you, that his health and comfort come before our shows.
That said, arthroscopic surgery can mean a fairly rapid recovery. We'll have to be patient.

I know that he realizes that we love him for him, and not just for his amazing performances.
I'll be joining the prayer circle and signing the card.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Dali on May 21, 2010, 03:18:58 PM
Here's to a full and quick recovery!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mbeano on May 21, 2010, 03:28:20 PM
I think it would be great to bombard twitter with tweets for Bono's recovery and U2 in general, on the day the tour was supposed to start.

So June 3rd, if you have a twitter account, send some positive thoughts and/or prayers for Bono and U2 across the twitterverse
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: aurabender on May 21, 2010, 03:36:37 PM
Hey everyone,
I have had the joy of undergoing back surgery myself I thought I would share some of the experience. After undergoing my own pain for a long, I really hurt myself at work . The funny thing was, all I was doing was turning my hips from let to right, no cartwheels or lifting a truck or anything. I later learned. you can really screw up a problem back just hitting steps the wrong way. The effect was severe pain in my legs and groin and a emergency discotomy was scheduled. They basically go in a carve out a bit of the soft tissue between the spine that gets herniated and pushes against your nerves. One good piece of new is that the relief was immediate once the surgery was done. I woke up and the pain was gone. There is a 3-4 week recover where you can pretty much just lay, stand or walk...no sitting. That will be Bono's issue, how long will the recovery take. However, if he recovers well, he will feel better than he has felt in a long time.

Let's just keep him in our prayers and be patient.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on May 21, 2010, 04:30:22 PM
*sigh* Not the best of things to start off one's weekend with.

But then again there is the fact that nobody at the moment is sure how long the recovery time is. Could be weeks, months, years?

But all my prayers go to the B-man, I can just imagine how annoyed at having to be out of action, it's not like him to begin with.

So hopefully the recovery is quick
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Discotheque Girl on May 21, 2010, 04:39:07 PM
Please God,help your angel! :( :(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 21, 2010, 04:42:21 PM
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Please God,help your angel! :( :(

That was beautiful. DG for the first time today, you made me cry. I am touched.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Discotheque Girl on May 21, 2010, 04:43:50 PM
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Please God,help your angel! :( :(

That was beautiful. DG for the first time today, you made me cry. I am touched.

I prayed the same for you when you had surgery :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 21, 2010, 04:44:40 PM
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Please God,help your angel! :( :(

That was beautiful. DG for the first time today, you made me cry. I am touched.

I prayed the same for you when you had surgery :)

You really are the sweetest person I know.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
dont make me start crying too, guys... :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 21, 2010, 04:58:30 PM
In english class, we had to write a poem about a week ago on one item that means most to you right now in your home.
I chose my U2 ticket.

Today, I was in complete and utter shock when I had found out what happend, and I was glassy eyed all day,
but when I had to present my poem infront of the class, I read out ...
" I look at the slip of paper that has kept me excited and anxious for the past 230 days,
only 29 to go "

and I lost it :'(

Love you Bono! Get better very soon! <3
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on May 21, 2010, 04:58:53 PM
Hope you're doing ok and are better soon, Bono! We all love you, and i think, knowing how amazing you are, that you'll have the sheer willpower to be ok in no time!  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 21, 2010, 04:59:18 PM
Tyra (hug)


Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 21, 2010, 05:01:44 PM
:) *Hug*

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 21, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
I think it was very brave of you to read your poem.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 21, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
I knew I was going to cry. My class did as well, so it was okay :)
Before I went up, I started laughing and said.... "Well this isnt the best day for presentations but
here we go "
( of course by this time, the whole school knew what happend to Bono... seeing as I told everyone cause
it was the only thing on my mind all day )

were you okay today? :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
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In english class, we had to write a poem about a week ago on one item that means most to you right now in your home.
I chose my U2 ticket.

Today, I was in complete and utter shock when I had found out what happend, and I was glassy eyed all day,
but when I had to present my poem infront of the class, I read out ...
" I look at the slip of paper that has kept me excited and anxious for the past 230 days,
only 29 to go "

and I lost it :'(

Love you Bono! Get better very soon! <3


Oh, my God. I feel for you. I really, really do. I can't imagine how you must have felt.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: j2736 (i'm not a boy ! ) on May 21, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
i hope Bono gets well soon. I will join the prayer rally here.. Just please post when.. I love you, Bono.. :(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 21, 2010, 06:41:02 PM
lesson for kids out there... Always warm up with stretching before attempting to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders.

Get well soon shorty.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 06:41:54 PM
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lesson for kids out there... Always warm up with stretching before attempting to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders.

Get well soon shorty.

:) Actually made me smile.....for first time all day.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Thehorsefly [whinny!] on May 21, 2010, 06:42:52 PM
I just saw this and I'm shocked. I hope he recovers well and quickly.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Womando on May 21, 2010, 06:54:53 PM
Let's look at the bright side......maybe he WILL be able to dance now!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on May 21, 2010, 06:55:57 PM
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Let's look at the bright side......maybe he will be able to dance now!

That would take a MIRACLE!  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ayajedi on May 21, 2010, 07:06:50 PM
it is all over the news tonight. I wonder how long he will take to recover
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: missey on May 21, 2010, 07:32:11 PM
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In english class, we had to write a poem about a week ago on one item that means most to you right now in your home.
I chose my U2 ticket.

Today, I was in complete and utter shock when I had found out what happend, and I was glassy eyed all day,
but when I had to present my poem infront of the class, I read out ...
" I look at the slip of paper that has kept me excited and anxious for the past 230 days,
only 29 to go "

and I lost it :'(

Love you Bono! Get better very soon! <3


Hey Tyra how about posting the rest of your poem, I think we'd all like to read about now.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on May 21, 2010, 07:55:36 PM
This shucks.  :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: silvrlvr on May 21, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
Bono's recovery time completely depends on what kind of surgery he had and where in his back the problem was located. There is a new type of surgery, called IDET, which is heat based and has a relatively quick recovery time. If he had something as serious as spinal fusion, it could take much longer.

With back surgery, the doctors want a patient to be up and moving around: mobility helps the healing process. But to go from an operating room to performing might be too much to expect. In any event, lots of good wishes to Bono. He will be in great hands in Munich.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mstevensmcs on May 21, 2010, 08:45:22 PM
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Bono's recovery time completely depends on what kind of surgery he had and where in his back the problem was located. There is a new type of surgery, called IDET, which is heat based and has a relatively quick recovery time. If he had something as serious as spinal fusion, it could take much longer.

With back surgery, the doctors want a patient to be up and moving around: mobility helps the healing process. But to go from an operating room to performing might be too much to expect. In any event, lots of good wishes to Bono. He will be in great hands in Munich.

My mum had the spinal fusion surgery, 7-9 days in the hospital and a recovery that took 8-10 weeks.....when I first heard about this this morning my only thought was ooooooowwwwwwwccccchhhhh! Even though I have tickets for anaheim and oakland, my first worry was that he'd try to come back too quickly and do permanent damage...I only hope he takes his time, they can do the make-up shows in late July if he can make the June 27th date in Minneapolis, but I'm sure we'd all rather he listen to Ali and his doctors. God bless, stay down, dude, stay down
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Yukona [The League of Extraordinary Bonopeople] on May 21, 2010, 10:01:05 PM
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Let's look at the bright side......maybe he will be able to dance now!

That would take a MIRACLE!  ;D

Reminds me of the joke:

Bono: Doctor, will I be able to dance after surgery?
Doctor: Don't worry, you'll be able to dance just fine after this.
Bono: Oh thank God, that's a miracle! I always wanted to be able to dance.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: FishLips on May 21, 2010, 11:00:10 PM
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It's been noted that the claw is heading for Minneapolis- which is the gig after Glastonbury. With Bono being Bono, I wouldn't be surprised if he was absolutely determined that come hell or high water, he would be back in time for Glasto, and they may use it to restart the tour. But that totally depends on whether or not he's capable!

When I first heard the news, I thought they would probably just cancel/postpone the entire US leg, but this gives me hope.  The SLC claw was scheduled for Oakland, then Minneapolis.. so could this mean that each of the claws is sticking to the same cities they were originally booked for?  I'm very curious to hear where the Anaheim claw is headed.. or for that matter, where the actual stage is going.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: pilgrimtogo on May 21, 2010, 11:08:38 PM
You will be in my prayers BONO! We all know that you are in good hands and that our Heavenly Father is watching over you!

I had a spinal fushion 8 years ago - for at least 2 months no sitting or driving....
This is painful.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on May 21, 2010, 11:19:56 PM
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This shucks.  :'(


Yes it does, but we still have to pray....He'll be ok, with all our prayers!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 21, 2010, 11:54:02 PM
Do we know exactly what type of back surgery it was?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 21, 2010, 11:59:16 PM
not yet...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: kango on May 22, 2010, 03:44:26 AM
The timing of this is terrible, and I'm not just talking about the tour. I'm talking about a certain birthday he's just had. If this had happened a few weeks ago when he was in his 40's, he would feel younger in all these news reports.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on May 22, 2010, 04:21:29 AM
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The timing of this is terrible, and I'm not just talking about the tour. I'm talking about a certain birthday he's just had. If this had happened a few weeks ago when he was in his 40's, he would feel younger in all these news reports.

I'm not sure how much age has to do with this problem.  I've know folks who were quite young - some in their twenties - with back problems that required surgery.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Maximus on May 22, 2010, 05:51:09 AM
MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.


Remember, O Most Gracious Virgin Mary,

that never was it known that anyone who fled to Thy protection,

implored Thy help or sought Thy intercession,

was left unaided.

Inspired by this confidence,

I fly unto Thee, O Virgin of Virgins, my Mother;

to Thee do I come, before thee I kneel, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,

despise not my petitions,

but in Thy clemency, hear and answer me.

Amen.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on May 22, 2010, 05:55:42 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.


Remember, O Most Gracious Virgin Mary,

that never was it known that anyone who fled to Thy protection,

implored Thy help or sought Thy intercession,

was left unaided.

Inspired by this confidence,

I fly unto Thee, O Virgin of Virgins, my Mother;

to Thee do I come, before thee I kneel, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,

despise not my petitions,

but in Thy clemency, hear and answer me.

Amen.


Yes, Amen.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 22, 2010, 07:05:55 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.

FFS, he's not dying. Just had back surgery.

or is that Latin for 'bend your knees when lifting heavy objects'?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 22, 2010, 07:35:57 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.

FFS, he's not dying. Just had back surgery.

or is that Latin for 'bend your knees when lifting heavy objects'?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on May 22, 2010, 07:37:06 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.

FFS, he's not dying. Just had back surgery.

or is that Latin for 'bend your knees when lifting heavy objects'?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Everytime to spam you scare away a potential member.  >:(

 :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 22, 2010, 07:46:13 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.

FFS, he's not dying. Just had back surgery.

or is that Latin for 'bend your knees when lifting heavy objects'?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Everytime to spam you scare away a potential member.  >:(

 :D
i was honestly laughing like crazy in real life :D :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 22, 2010, 08:01:42 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.

FFS, he's not dying. Just had back surgery.

or is that Latin for 'bend your knees when lifting heavy objects'?

 ;D

Sorry, I am Catholic and found that funny.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Maximus on May 22, 2010, 08:31:57 AM
That was funny

But it is always good to pray for someone for a good recovery from Surgery. You can pray for people even when they aren't dieing
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on May 22, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
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MEMORARE, O piissima Virgo Maria,

non esse auditum a saeculo, quemquam ad tua currentem praesidia,

tua implorantem auxilia, tua petentem suffragia,

esse derelictum.

Ego tali animatus confidentia,

ad te, Virgo Virginum, Mater, curro,

ad te venio, coram te gemens peccator assisto.

Noli, Mater Verbi,

verba mea despicere;

sed audi propitia et exaudi.

Amen.


Remember, O Most Gracious Virgin Mary,

that never was it known that anyone who fled to Thy protection,

implored Thy help or sought Thy intercession,

was left unaided.

Inspired by this confidence,

I fly unto Thee, O Virgin of Virgins, my Mother;

to Thee do I come, before thee I kneel, sinful and sorrowful.

O Mother of the Word Incarnate,

despise not my petitions,

but in Thy clemency, hear and answer me.

Amen.



AMEN






Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 22, 2010, 09:45:29 AM
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That was funny

But it is always good to pray for someone for a good recovery from Surgery. You can pray for people even when they aren't dieing

Of course you can.  It is a very kind act.  Thanks for posting and welcome!  Hope to see you around.  Hugs.....
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 22, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
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That was funny

But it is always good to pray for someone for a good recovery from Surgery. You can pray for people even when they aren't dieing

Of course you can.  It is a very kind act.  Thanks for posting and welcome!  Hope to see you around.  Hugs.....

I absolutely agree!  It was a very lovely post.  Welcome!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2lova on May 22, 2010, 05:21:42 PM
I am in Australia and EAGERLY awaiting neww of U2 coming here so,tour wise,this news doesnt affect me but BONO AND U2 wise it does.I sincerely hope Bono makes a full and speedy recovery because YOUR FANS ALL LOVE YOU.God bless.xxxxx
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 22, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
I'm concerned that these back problems are a direct result of extended wearing of platform shoes. If they are, governments need to ban the wearing of platform shoes by rockstars shorter than 5'6" for their own protection.

PROTECT BACKS - BAN PLATFORMS FOR SUFFERERS OF SHORT MAN SYNDROME
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 22, 2010, 05:49:22 PM
 :o  oh heck, there go my platform shoe wearing days

*runs to hide his shoes in a place where the government agents will never find them! mwahaha*
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Falling At Your Feet on May 22, 2010, 06:45:49 PM
I hope he gets better soon.

Ones health and family are clearly the most important things, not a rock concert.

Come back when you are ready, and not a minute before. Cancel the whole tour if it's necessary.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 22, 2010, 07:42:06 PM
OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on May 22, 2010, 07:43:57 PM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).

Are you kidding me?  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Northern Soul on May 22, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).

Time to bust out the tinfoil hats.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 22, 2010, 07:55:28 PM
"Don't believe what you hear,
 Don't believe what you see"
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 22, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).
i... i have to say I agree. this is obviously the case. I cant believe I didn't see it before.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on May 22, 2010, 08:10:07 PM
Hahahahaha, no. Go away.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 22, 2010, 08:13:57 PM
dont listen to him phil, Im with ya ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on May 22, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
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dont listen to him phil, Im with ya ;)

Foh shur' spammah.  ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 22, 2010, 08:20:41 PM
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dont listen to him phil, Im with ya ;)

Foh shur' spammah.  ;)
me and phil are spam brothers <3
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on May 22, 2010, 08:38:09 PM
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dont listen to him phil, Im with ya ;)

Foh shur' spammah.  ;)
me and phil are spam brothers <3

And conspiracy theorists!  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: testhenotion on May 22, 2010, 10:35:37 PM
I really hope it's more of a minor thing than something that's been going on for a long time.[/i]
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: hurricane hugo on May 22, 2010, 10:44:36 PM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).

y'know...this is the only forum I go to that doesn't have a "drunk posting" thread.

#@!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 22, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
that can be easily arranged...........
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Eilish on May 23, 2010, 01:51:43 AM
I read in the papers before that Bono has had a problem with his back for a few years now.Something about slipped discs in the past.In saying that it mightened be entirely true.Never mind the tour and cancelling dates.I just hope our Bono is on the mend and feeling better soon.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 23, 2010, 04:43:15 AM
How about Edge taking over lead singing duties with Dallas moving up to lead guitar??
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 23, 2010, 04:57:06 AM
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How about Edge taking over lead singing duties with Dallas moving up to lead guitar??
no. they need to rest before glasto. this is what this whole thing is about , remember?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: satellitedog01 on May 23, 2010, 04:58:11 AM
Well, the only gig in this situation they will concentrate on, has to be Glastonbury, so much is true of the "conspiracy theory".
Although it would be very Spinal Tap were the whole of it true :-D
They just gotta do Glasto, no second chances with this trophy. Anyway, U2 fans are supportive enough to wait for the rescheduled tour...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: rattleandhum24 on May 23, 2010, 05:00:53 AM
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How about Edge taking over lead singing duties with Dallas moving up to lead guitar??

Actually, I think there are several people, including myself, who would be interested to see just one show like this.

DALLAS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 23, 2010, 05:08:35 AM
Just for the record re my conspiracy theory- I am not questioning the fact that Bono has suffered any injury and has had some hospital treatment. But the reality is nobody on here (not even me!) knows the extent of the injury. I am just pointing out that it may solve some problems for the band if they can now play Glastonbury without the threat of being stranded in the US because of volcanic ash, or the prospect of playing three gigs on two continents in four days.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 23, 2010, 05:08:35 AM
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Well, the only gig in this situation they will concentrate on, has to be Glastonbury, so much is true of the "conspiracy theory".
Although it would be very Spinal Tap were the whole of it true :-D
They just gotta do Glasto, no second chances with this trophy. Anyway, U2 fans are supportive enough to wait for the rescheduled tour...

it is very true that glasto is probably the most important date (for the band) this year.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AmericanAngel on May 23, 2010, 06:42:58 AM
 :-*  Bono will be alright! Things happen ...My husband has been suffering on and off since the space suttle blew up in the late 80"s....hurniated 2 disks in his lower back while putting his shoes on! He also has a slipping disk in the middle of his back too. He see's a chiropracter for al this. The back surgen  said that as long as he could tollerate the pain, to not have surgery. The hurnia was not pressing on the nerves enough to risk surgey. That was 20 years ago. They have come up with great laser surgerys today! He is in fine hands and has many people (us  ;)  ) praying for him. Things don't happen without a reason. I'm sure he is disappointed that it happened now.
Looking forward to an update on his progress soon!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: JasontheJedi on May 23, 2010, 07:46:20 AM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).

Bono has actually been kidnapped by several African leaders annoyed with his frequent requests to help their respective countries. It turns out he really pi**ed them off 5 years ago during the Battle of Vertiganedeeda. Bono lead a valiant fight and won. There was a treaty signed by both sides, but there was a small rebellion that's been planning this kidnapping for years. They figured 2 weeks before the start of the 3rd leg of U2360 would be the perfect time because, hey, why not?

Add to the fact the leaders that kidnapped him are under the rule of King Zorgon the third from the planet sumbulashite, we have a real crisis on our hands.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 23, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
No, I don't think that's what's happened. He hurt his back, have you not heard?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Exile on May 23, 2010, 09:03:48 AM
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Just for the record re my conspiracy theory- I am not questioning the fact that Bono has suffered any injury and has had some hospital treatment. But the reality is nobody on here (not even me!) knows the extent of the injury. I am just pointing out that it may solve some problems for the band if they can now play Glastonbury without the threat of being stranded in the US because of volcanic ash, or the prospect of playing three gigs on two continents in four days.

Crap! I just realized I totally overbooked my Monday. Fine -- I didn't want to have to do this, but I have no choice: I'm getting a heart transplant. That way I won't have to go to that meeting, and then to that other meeting an hour later.

Problem. Solved.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 23, 2010, 10:05:15 AM
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OK I am always a sucker for a conspiracy theory, here's mine on Bono's surgery and the cancellation of the restart of the 360 tour-

Had the tour proceeded as scheduled, U2 would have played three shows on two continents in four days (i.e. US, Glastonbury, US). U2 already had their US dates scheduled when they were asked to play Glastonbury (a prize gig they've never played before, and on its 40th anniverdary to boot). The chance to play Glastonbury was one which the band couldn't turn down, but Management would surely never have put themselves in such a logistical conundrum if they could have avoided it.

Add to this the fact that much of Europe's airspace has had to close intermittently over the last few months due to volcanic ash. There would have been a very real possibility of disruption to the band's airtight itinerary. It would have been entirely possible therefore that the band and/or equipment would be out of position for some or all of the gigs in the four day period around Glastonbury.

Ergo, I speculate that perhaps this surgery isn't as out-of-the-blue as has been reported, and perhaps this is an attempt to ensure the band are in top form for Glastonbury (and indeed are guaranteed to be able to play Glastonbury and not reliant on airspace not being closed), and make cancelling some US dates more paleatable for long-suffering fans (2005 presale, anyone?).

Bono has actually been kidnapped by several African leaders annoyed with his frequent requests to help their respective countries. It turns out he really pi**ed them off 5 years ago during the Battle of Vertiganedeeda. Bono lead a valiant fight and won. There was a treaty signed by both sides, but there was a small rebellion that's been planning this kidnapping for years. They figured 2 weeks before the start of the 3rd leg of U2360 would be the perfect time because, hey, why not?

Add to the fact the leaders that kidnapped him are under the rule of King Zorgon the third from the planet sumbulashite, we have a real crisis on our hands.

I thought Zorgon was overthrown in the Iraq War? Could have fooled me.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: peggy2ten on May 23, 2010, 11:34:10 AM
Irish Central reporting that tour may not start until the Fall

http://www.irishcentral.com/ent/U2-may-cancel-concerts-until-fall-after-Bonos-back-operation-94636829.html

I've just about given up hope of them playing Seattle - my first show, but it could be that my other 2 shows in Philly and NY could be in jeopardy as well.  I'm in the camp that I'd just as soon they postpone until next Spring and finish "Songs of Ascent".

I do find it frustrating that there has been no news about the nature of his injury or type of surgery that Bono had, but I guess the doctors and hospital are doing all that they can to protect his privacy.  Hopefully, we'll hear more on Monday.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: THRILLHO on May 23, 2010, 11:35:30 AM
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:-*  Bono will be alright! Things happen ...My husband has been suffering on and off since the space suttle blew up in the late 80"s....hurniated 2 disks in his lower back while putting his shoes on! He also has a slipping disk in the middle of his back too. He see's a chiropracter for al this. The back surgen  said that as long as he could tollerate the pain, to not have surgery. The hurnia was not pressing on the nerves enough to risk surgey. That was 20 years ago. They have come up with great laser surgerys today! He is in fine hands and has many people (us  ;)  ) praying for him. Things don't happen without a reason. I'm sure he is disappointed that it happened now.
Looking forward to an update on his progress soon!

You do know there's a chance that this is making it worse, right? just saying.......
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 23, 2010, 11:55:16 AM
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Irish Central reporting that tour may not start until the Fall

http://www.irishcentral.com/ent/U2-may-cancel-concerts-until-fall-after-Bonos-back-operation-94636829.html

I've just about given up hope of them playing Seattle - my first show, but it could be that my other 2 shows in Philly and NY could be in jeopardy as well.  I'm in the camp that I'd just as soon they postpone until next Spring and finish "Songs of Ascent".

I do find it frustrating that there has been no news about the nature of his injury or type of surgery that Bono had, but I guess the doctors and hospital are doing all that they can to protect his privacy.  Hopefully, we'll hear more on Monday.

They're just speculating like everyone else.  Yes, the tour could be cancelled until the fall.  At the same time, the headline could have been: "U2 May Resume Tour in Anaheim After Bono's Back Operation."  I was hoping I would see news or new information to warrant the headline, but there's nothing we haven't seen.  I thought they were rehearsing in NY, anyway?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: aurabender on May 23, 2010, 12:37:11 PM
Now that it seems a fall was involved, I am thinking more and more that this seems like a severe herniated disk.  If so, and I say if, this is the case, you are looking at about 3 weeks of recovery with limited movement. One other thing I can say from experience about back surgery is that, afterward, running around, dancing and jumping is never a problem. The problems come from standing in one place or siting in one place. The surgery for a herniated disk is fairly simple.
If he has had the more serious spinal fusion, where they fuse two parts of the spine together, especially in the upper back, Bono could have a much longer recovery time. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 23, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
bloody hell....


I BET YOU IT WAS THE BLEEDIN' SWINGY MIC AFTER ALL!

*shmacks Bono for silliness*

*hugs too*
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 23, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
fall? oh my gosh,*hugs to Bono *
 :(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 23, 2010, 02:09:53 PM
Do we actually know it was a fall, or is this just the Irish Examiner article? Because I would not trust it as far as I could throw it. Remember, an Irish tabloid got the 'exclusive scoop' of U2 gigs in Dublin this summer!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: philip861 on May 23, 2010, 02:32:48 PM
I heard it happened when Bono was climbing the highest mountain just after he had finished running through the fields.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 23, 2010, 02:46:58 PM
nothing confirmed, of course...but i wouldn't be surprised....that man has a history of falling off things. :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ayajedi on May 23, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
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nothing confirmed, of course...but i wouldn't be surprised....that man has a history of falling off things. :D

I agree
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2faninslc on May 23, 2010, 03:16:12 PM
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Now that it seems a fall was involved, I am thinking more and more that this seems like a severe herniated disk.  If so, and I say if, this is the case, you are looking at about 3 weeks of recovery with limited movement. One other thing I can say from experience about back surgery is that, afterward, running around, dancing and jumping is never a problem. The problems come from standing in one place or siting in one place. The surgery for a herniated disk is fairly simple.
If he has had the more serious spinal fusion, where they fuse two parts of the spine together, especially in the upper back, Bono could have a much longer recovery time. 


My dad had spinal fusion in his upper vertibrate ... now he moves like an owl.  hoooo.  hoooo.   ??? ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: liveaid85 on May 23, 2010, 07:01:38 PM
I had a spinal fusion and was in a body cast for 4 months after 2 weeks in the hospital. I was lucky I could walk after my fall ( of only about 8 feet).
 I have tickets to both shows in Anaheim and certainly wouldn't want Bono to rush back in to the tour before he's well recovered. All those bridges and things they've got on the 360 set could be scary for someone recovering from a back injury, especially if it was from a fall. I just want him to get well! Best wishes for a speedy recovery Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 23, 2010, 07:03:24 PM
We're blessed to have so many doctors on here.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Dream Out Loud on May 23, 2010, 08:55:08 PM
we kept getting all these pics of Bono hanging out in DC with Obama and all the other politicians.  You hang out with politicians long enough and of course you need back surgery....your spine will surely be crooked.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Yukona [The League of Extraordinary Bonopeople] on May 23, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
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Do we actually know it was a fall, or is this just the Irish Examiner article? Because I would not trust it as far as I could throw it. Remember, an Irish tabloid got the 'exclusive scoop' of U2 gigs in Dublin this summer!

Doesn't the fall in the article refer to, like, AUTUMN?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jeremyb on May 24, 2010, 04:52:16 AM
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We're blessed to have so many doctors on here.

LOL I was thinking that too. Actually my own doctor went to the Dublin show last year - I should call him for an opinion ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 24, 2010, 07:12:51 AM
I once went to a doctor. Think I'll share my diagnosis and recommended surgery approach
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2Fan on May 24, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
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Irish Central reporting that tour may not start until the Fall

http://www.irishcentral.com/ent/U2-may-cancel-concerts-until-fall-after-Bonos-back-operation-94636829.html

I've just about given up hope of them playing Seattle - my first show, but it could be that my other 2 shows in Philly and NY could be in jeopardy as well.  I'm in the camp that I'd just as soon they postpone until next Spring and finish "Songs of Ascent".

I do find it frustrating that there has been no news about the nature of his injury or type of surgery that Bono had, but I guess the doctors and hospital are doing all that they can to protect his privacy.  Hopefully, we'll hear more on Monday.

They're just speculating like everyone else.  Yes, the tour could be cancelled until the fall.  At the same time, the headline could have been: "U2 May Resume Tour in Anaheim After Bono's Back Operation."  I was hoping I would see news or new information to warrant the headline, but there's nothing we haven't seen.  I thought they were rehearsing in NY, anyway?

Yes I wonder what was up with the NY rehearsing rumor that I read on U2tours.com?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 24, 2010, 09:04:39 AM
Any more word on how Bono is feeling?  I have been checking in almost everyday to hear hopefully some good news.  About his condition. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: noelle510 on May 24, 2010, 09:09:16 AM
It's hard to know how long the recovery time will be if we don't know what exactly his back problem is. He could have a slipped disc or ruptured disc and that can squish the nerve and cause a lot of pain and/or tingling, foot drop, etc.
Maybe he can perform on a tricked up hospital bed they can wheel out?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 24, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
I'm hoping they give us some news today on what happened, what surgery was done, and his prognosis....& not just about the tours.  That may be asking a lot but so many have been sick with worry this weekend and it'd clear up a lot (of speculation etc)...  Here's hoping we hear something SOON! 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 10:19:30 AM
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I'm hoping they give us some news today on what happened, what surgery was done, and his prognosis....& not just about the tours.  That may be asking a lot but so many have been sick with worry this weekend and it'd clear up a lot (of speculation etc)...  Here's hoping we hear something SOON! 


Its 5pm over there now. I'm starting to feel like we aint gonna hear anything today. Grr.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MissSarajevo on May 24, 2010, 10:27:26 AM
Right now it's 18:27  :-\
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 24, 2010, 10:51:48 AM
I was REALLY hoping I woke wake up to a huge article on everything that happend :'(

until then, get well soon Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 10:54:55 AM
Ok well a German paper is saying its a Slipped/Herniated disc.  http://bit.ly/d9EhNT 
But I wanna hear something OFFICIAL por favor *coughsPaulMcGcough*. Kthnx. 
Oh well.
We wait.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 10:57:32 AM
The U2 is worried about her band member Bono. Frontman Bono had to undergo surgery on May 21 because of a possible major slipped disc in a special hospital in Munich on the back.


Bono
Singer Bono of the rock band U2 on May 21, 2010 had to undergo an emergency surgery in Munich, on the back. This is due to an injury that Bono may be in the tour preparations (who had drawn 360 ° Tour). Bono in Munich is run by Dr. Müller-Wohlfahrt Dr. Jörg Tonn physician.

The official website of the band - U2.com confirmed - this news that U2, is postponed due to a back surgery the Bono of tour start in Salt Lake City.

The opening concert of the tour was 360 for the 03 Planned in June and is now postponed. When the rescheduled concert in Salt Lake City, is to date not been fixed yet. Also, there is still no official news about Bono's health status.

U2 manager Paul McGuinness in his audio statement on U2.com by a majority of tour dates ("reinstate these dates
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on May 24, 2010, 10:58:16 AM
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I was REALLY hoping I woke wake up to a huge article on everything that happend :'(

until then, get well soon Bono!

Same, but was there ever an official annoucement saying "more news will be made available Monday"?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
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I was REALLY hoping I woke wake up to a huge article on everything that happend :'(

until then, get well soon Bono!

Same, but was there ever an official annoucement saying "more news will be made available Monday"?


No dont think so, so yeah we got our hopes up.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 24, 2010, 11:11:38 AM
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I was REALLY hoping I woke wake up to a huge article on everything that happend :'(

until then, get well soon Bono!

Same, but was there ever an official annoucement saying "more news will be made available Monday"?


No dont think so, so yeah we got our hopes up.

They really should just announce which shows are postponed as soon as it becomes obvious that the show will not occur.  I'm supposedly leaving for Anaheim on Sunday, but no announcement has been made.  Like I posted in another thread, if I go and they postpone/cancel, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on plane tickets and everything else. But if I don't go and the show happens, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on red zone tickets.  They should just announce either way.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on May 24, 2010, 11:14:52 AM
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They really should just announce which shows are postponed as soon as it becomes obvious that the show will not occur.  I'm supposedly leaving for Anaheim on Sunday, but no announcement has been made.  Like I posted in another thread, if I go and they postpone/cancel, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on plane tickets and everything else. But if I don't go and the show happens, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on red zone tickets.  They should just announce either way.
I agree, but the way they are waiting makes me feel like there is a glimmer of hope...?!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 24, 2010, 11:31:02 AM
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They really should just announce which shows are postponed as soon as it becomes obvious that the show will not occur.  I'm supposedly leaving for Anaheim on Sunday, but no announcement has been made.  Like I posted in another thread, if I go and they postpone/cancel, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on plane tickets and everything else. But if I don't go and the show happens, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on red zone tickets.  They should just announce either way.
I agree, but the way they are waiting makes me feel like there is a glimmer of hope...?!

Me too  :-\  But I'm afraid they're just waiting so they can release the new dates/plans along with the cancellations.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 24, 2010, 11:50:37 AM
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They really should just announce which shows are postponed as soon as it becomes obvious that the show will not occur.  I'm supposedly leaving for Anaheim on Sunday, but no announcement has been made.  Like I posted in another thread, if I go and they postpone/cancel, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on plane tickets and everything else. But if I don't go and the show happens, it's a waste of thousands of dollars on red zone tickets.  They should just announce either way.
I agree, but the way they are waiting makes me feel like there is a glimmer of hope...?!

Me too  :-\  But I'm afraid they're just waiting so they can release the new dates/plans along with the cancellations.

I highly doubt that they'll have new dates at this point.  WAY too soon for all that to come together.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 01:04:58 PM
He's bck home in Ireland according to an Irish publication.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 24, 2010, 01:06:47 PM
hmm...probably trying to get a statement together.  i bet bono's been talking to the band and to paul mcguinness, and figuring out what's going on.  bet you there wont be news today, but probably sometime in the next week.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on May 24, 2010, 01:09:37 PM
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hmm...probably trying to get a statement together.  i bet bono's been talking to the band and to paul mcguinness, and figuring out what's going on.  bet you there wont be news today, but probably sometime in the next week.
But my concert is next week...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 24, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Tumbling Dice on May 24, 2010, 01:23:54 PM
It must be a very stressful time for Bono carrying the weight of responsiblity for a mammouth tour affecting millions, on top of his personal health problems.


Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jabw10 on May 24, 2010, 01:35:53 PM
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It must be a very stressful time for Bono carrying the weight of responsiblity for a mammouth tour affecting millions, on top of his personal health problems.




yeah, i'm kinda hoping he can focus on the latter and let others bear the weight of the tour, etc.   not easy, but i hope he can let it go & focus on himself.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 24, 2010, 01:37:45 PM
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He's bck home in Ireland according to an Irish publication.

it's not an Irish publication. It's an 'Irish-American' publication that is just very very late in reporting the same news we have all heard. one of their front page stories is about recreational soccer games going on right next to my college (and apartment) in the Bronx, which I didn't even know about.  
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 24, 2010, 01:47:39 PM
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He's bck home in Ireland according to an Irish publication.

it's not an Irish publication. It's an 'Irish-American' publication that is just very very late in reporting the same news we have all heard. one of their front page stories is about recreational soccer games going on right next to my college (and apartment) in the Bronx, which I didn't even know about.  

My bad. 
When I saw it posted on twitter that was the 1st I'd heard that Bono was back in Ireland.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: u2pinstripes on May 24, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
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He's bck home in Ireland according to an Irish publication.

it's not an Irish publication. It's an 'Irish-American' publication that is just very very late in reporting the same news we have all heard. one of their front page stories is about recreational soccer games going on right next to my college (and apartment) in the Bronx, which I didn't even know about.  

My bad. 
When I saw it posted on twitter that was the 1st I'd heard that Bono was back in Ireland.

Yeah I thought the same thing at first. Then I went to the actual website and read the article and realized that there really was no new information.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 24, 2010, 02:18:42 PM
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hmm...probably trying to get a statement together.  i bet bono's been talking to the band and to paul mcguinness, and figuring out what's going on.  bet you there wont be news today, but probably sometime in the next week.

I can surmise from personal experience that bono is not likely having meetings at this point at all but its likely the family, 3 other band members, McG, Principle & U2 Corp that are weighing everything & discussing the whats and wheres of everything. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: aurabender on May 24, 2010, 07:13:30 PM
Is anyone else concerned over the lack of information or on the type of surgery involved? I just get the feeling that if this were a herniated disk or something involving a full recovery, we would have heard something by now.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 24, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
a little.  but i think they're just waiting to figure out the tour schedule and how this affects everything before telling us officially.  although it would be nice to know OFFICIALLY that Bono is ok.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on May 24, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
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Is anyone else concerned over the lack of information or on the type of surgery involved? I just get the feeling that if this were a herniated disk or something involving a full recovery, we would have heard something by now.

I am totally thinking that way aurabender. Its been days now and we are all like family and family gets to know what is going on even if we dont know every detail, we need to know more than he had emergency back surgery like last week. I am worrying and wondering the same... :'(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jabw10 on May 24, 2010, 08:40:28 PM
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Is anyone else concerned over the lack of information or on the type of surgery involved? I just get the feeling that if this were a herniated disk or something involving a full recovery, we would have heard something by now.

I am totally thinking that way aurabender. Its been days now and we are all like family and family gets to know what is going on even if we dont know every detail, we need to know more than he had emergency back surgery like last week. I am worrying and wondering the same... :'(

me too.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 24, 2010, 10:47:20 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 24, 2010, 11:06:18 PM
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The sky is falling the sky is falling.

the worry is brutal but we'll hear soon enough.  There's many peeps in betwwen fans and immediate circles so we'll just have to be patient.   :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 24, 2010, 11:41:06 PM
In 2006 when they cancelled due to Edge's family illness, we were all in the lurch for a long time. But the line 'we'll reschedule when everything is sorted' was enough.

When the killers cancelled a Sydney show at < 24 hours notice this year the initial result was anger at such short notice, but as we all know now there are reasons.

It's the 'I WANT TO KNOW NOW' attitude that's unfair, and I've been very much guilty of it in the past. It will get sorted and announcements will be made.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: silverbad on May 25, 2010, 01:58:42 AM
If someone had surgical decompression of spinal cord for cauda equina syndrome or a burst fracture, doctors wouldn't know for a few days how things were going, till swelling and such goes down. NOT SAYING he had this---but they do emergency surgery for those things. As an rn I have cared for many of these patients in inpatient rehab. They will let us know when they themselves know. Wouldn't want info prematurely that turns out to end up appearing to have jumped the gun too soon...and end up being misinformation. Praying for Bono!

in fact my dog had this surgery and ended up being able to walk again after being paralyzed. It took a few days before we knew that was even possible---AGAIN NOT Saying this is the problem---just saying it is highly unlikely they have the info yet to give us, as back surgery is tricky...not like taking out tonsils. You know the tonsils are gone right after surgery. This is a different beast.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MissSarajevo on May 25, 2010, 05:03:42 AM
Bono discharged from hospital, North America leg postponed, confirms u2.com  :-\
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: dwaltman on May 25, 2010, 05:37:42 AM
Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.  Another issue with Montreal is that I heard that after the U2 show at the Hippodrome (an old horse racetrack) that this place was being demolished and new apartments were to be built.  There must be some time schedule for that....so Montreal might not even have a suitable venue come 2011.

U2 might rethink this whole thing for the US leg....especially if there is a new release somewhere in between.

I wonder if Interpol will still play their scheduled show here in Rochester NY that they scheduled around their Toronto appearance.  I was looking forward to seeing them in a small club atmosphere.

Get well soon, Bono.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 25, 2010, 05:45:43 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 25, 2010, 05:58:26 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!


I read the news today, oh boy. . . . .

Well at least now we know.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Falling At Your Feet on May 25, 2010, 06:18:02 AM
US dates now postponed until 2011.
http://www.u2.com/news/title/north-american-dates-will-be-rescheduled-in-2011
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 25, 2010, 06:23:39 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!


I read the news today, oh boy. . . . .

Well at least now we know.

And he's going to be ok eventually. Judging from the doctors remarks he must have been in an incredible amount of pain. I hope it's better now or that he at least has really good drugs.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 25, 2010, 06:26:46 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!


I read the news today, oh boy. . . . .

Well at least now we know.

And he's going to be ok eventually. Judging from the doctors remarks he must have been in an incredible amount of pain. I hope it's better now or that he at least has really good drugs.

I can only imagine what he was going through. The paralysis must have been so frightening for somone used to being so mobile.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 25, 2010, 06:27:34 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!


I read the news today, oh boy. . . . .

Well at least now we know.

And he's going to be ok eventually. Judging from the doctors remarks he must have been in an incredible amount of pain. I hope it's better now or that he at least has really good drugs.

I can only imagine what he was going through. The paralysis must have been so frightening for somone used to being so mobile.

That's the part that would scare the crap out of me!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 25, 2010, 06:28:34 AM
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Wow. 

I'm thinking North America won't see U2 until spring/summer 2011, if at all.  I have Monreal2 tix (from craigslist, so I'm probably out the $$) and an outdoor tour in the US (except maybe Southern states) won't happen after the European leg.

Yup, just confirmed on u2.com- NA leg in 2011!


I read the news today, oh boy. . . . .

Well at least now we know.

And he's going to be ok eventually. Judging from the doctors remarks he must have been in an incredible amount of pain. I hope it's better now or that he at least has really good drugs.

I can only imagine what he was going through. The paralysis must have been so frightening for somone used to being so mobile.

That's the part that would scare the crap out of me!

A reminder to all of us that as much as we love him, he is all too human.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 25, 2010, 06:36:35 AM
I'm glad Bono will be better now & is on the road to recovery. 

But also I am disappoint :( 

2011 seems so far off. Boooo.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on May 25, 2010, 06:42:18 AM
I knew the summer shows and even fall shows would be cancelled, this is
much to serious and a long recovery. At least we know now, thats right.
Is this the first major cancel ever???
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 25, 2010, 06:56:03 AM
I admit that I am really disappointed too.  But I would not want Bono to risk further injury by not following the doctors orders and completing rehabilitation.  So, we're still heading to Denver - we'll just be doing something else Saturday night.

 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jabw10 on May 25, 2010, 07:03:30 AM
my stomach is just in knots for the poor guy.  i can't imagine how horrible he must feel.  the physical pain obviously, but the mental stuff (like the feeling he's "letting down the band & fans" that paul mentions in the release) has to be just terrible for him. 

bono, listen, we'll be okay.  take care of yourself & get better.  as for all that other worry, you gotta give it away.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: jabw10 on May 25, 2010, 07:04:10 AM
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I admit that I am really disappointed too.  But I would not want Bono to risk further injury by not following the doctors orders and completing rehabilitation.  So, we're still heading to Denver - we'll just be doing something else Saturday night.

 

you can still see red rocks - which is cool!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 25, 2010, 07:09:19 AM
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I admit that I am really disappointed too.  But I would not want Bono to risk further injury by not following the doctors orders and completing rehabilitation.  So, we're still heading to Denver - we'll just be doing something else Saturday night.

 

you can still see red rocks - which is cool!

Oh, I am really excited about Red Rocks - and Sting.  It's just not the same trip I thought I had planned.  We're also going white water rafting and on a trip to the Rocky Mountain National Park - and to New Belgium brewery.  See, these are all things that I would not have done without U2.  I am continuously blessed to be a fan.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on May 25, 2010, 07:33:14 AM
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Is this the first major cancel ever???
Um no... Australia/nz/japan/hawaii 2006.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
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I admit that I am really disappointed too.  But I would not want Bono to risk further injury by not following the doctors orders and completing rehabilitation.  So, we're still heading to Denver - we'll just be doing something else Saturday night.
 

you can still see red rocks - which is cool!

Oh, I am really excited about Red Rocks - and Sting.  It's just not the same trip I thought I had planned.  We're also going white water rafting and on a trip to the Rocky Mountain National Park - and to New Belgium brewery.  See, these are all things that I would not have done without U2.  I am continuously blessed to be a fan.


Glad you're still going Mistyleigh and you'll have a blast!  I'm just so relieved to finally hear official news and know what happened.  With focus and determination, he'll get through rehab and lets just *keep everything crossed here* that he recovers fully.   I'm not sure about our plans yet - I might still go but I have to confer with my fellow fan-buds.... I think we'll recycle the flights & rebook for the concert, whenever that happens.   I'm probably in the minority but I'm actually hoping it is 2011 b/c  it'll be easier to plan for & the next 6 months are pretty booked.     

@brisco-  sorry about 2006 and 360.... longer wait for you too.  As you said in another thread, we'll all figure it out. 

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: dudette on May 25, 2010, 08:14:21 AM
See- there is so much uncertainty I don't know what to feel.

I could be sad for my "postponed" show,
be optimistic for it to be rescheduled
be scared that the ticket refunds will be a disaster
feel good about time for recording SoA
I could mourn the loss of Glasto and the anticipated revolutionary set list and new song
and on top of that worry about Bono
Or wish him luck

Gah!

HELP! TOO MUCH INFORMATION TOO FAST! Way too many possibilities.  :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Scotty on May 25, 2010, 08:16:19 AM
video of Paul McGuiness outside the hospital from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10154682.stm
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 25, 2010, 08:20:16 AM
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See- there is so much uncertainty I don't know what to feel.

I could be sad for my "postponed" show,
be optimistic for it to be rescheduled
be scared that the ticket refunds will be a disaster
feel good about time for recording SoA
I could mourn the loss of Glasto and the anticipated revolutionary set list and new song
and on top of that worry about Bono
Or wish him luck

Gah!

HELP! TOO MUCH INFORMATION TOO FAST! Way too many possibilities.  :P

dudette, just about the tickets-- been there. Getting tickets to a rescheduled show is pretty straightforward. If they don't do Philly, you will get a refund, but they always come to this neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: dudette on May 25, 2010, 08:21:58 AM
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See- there is so much uncertainty I don't know what to feel.

I could be sad for my "postponed" show,
be optimistic for it to be rescheduled
be scared that the ticket refunds will be a disaster
feel good about time for recording SoA
I could mourn the loss of Glasto and the anticipated revolutionary set list and new song
and on top of that worry about Bono
Or wish him luck

Gah!

HELP! TOO MUCH INFORMATION TOO FAST! Way too many possibilities.  :P

dudette, just about the tickets-- been there. Getting tickets to a rescheduled show is pretty straightforward. If they don't do Philly, you will get a refund, but they always come to this neck of the woods.

Well this gives me the oppurtunity to save up to go farther away if necessary...  :) ANOTHER possiblity.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: dwaltman on May 25, 2010, 08:26:14 AM
With the large secondary ticket market that is marketed by TicketMaster and Live Nation themselves, I think it would be irresponsible to give refunds and resell a show.  In this day & age, "ticket holders" should be given the option of returning tickets for refunds. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: JasontheJedi on May 25, 2010, 08:37:21 AM
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Is this the first major cancel ever???
Um no... Australia/nz/japan/hawaii 2006.

That wasn't in North America so it doesn't count.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 25, 2010, 08:38:42 AM
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See- there is so much uncertainty I don't know what to feel.

I could be sad for my "postponed" show,
be optimistic for it to be rescheduled
be scared that the ticket refunds will be a disaster
feel good about time for recording SoA
I could mourn the loss of Glasto and the anticipated revolutionary set list and new song
and on top of that worry about Bono
Or wish him luck

Gah!

HELP! TOO MUCH INFORMATION TOO FAST! Way too many possibilities.  :P

dudette, just about the tickets-- been there. Getting tickets to a rescheduled show is pretty straightforward. If they don't do Philly, you will get a refund, but they always come to this neck of the woods.

Well this gives me the opportunity to save up to go farther away if necessary...  :) ANOTHER possibility.

Had we not already met, I would be doubly disappointed by today's news.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: SBMitch on May 25, 2010, 08:41:59 AM
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I admit that I am really disappointed too.  But I would not want Bono to risk further injury by not following the doctors orders and completing rehabilitation.  So, we're still heading to Denver - we'll just be doing something else Saturday night.

 

Denver is a beautiful city with plenty to see in and surrounding it.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 08:56:58 AM
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video of Paul McGuiness outside the hospital from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10154682.stm

@Scotty - thanks for the video link! 

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With the large secondary ticket market that is marketed by TicketMaster and Live Nation themselves, I think it would be irresponsible to give refunds and resell a show.  In this day & age, "ticket holders" should be given the option of returning tickets for refunds. 

TM and LN will allow refunds for direct ticket holders but its more a matter of Stub Hub, brokers, scalpers & other secondary sources including ticket trading.  Is that what you're alluding to (?)  The broker outlets & trades are problematic b/c usually ticket refunds are only for the original purchaser. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ayajedi on May 25, 2010, 08:57:39 AM
That seemed to be a very serious injury that Bono had. I am glad that they were able to operate in time and he has a hard road ahead in terms of recuperation. The band must be devastated about Glastonbury and the 2nd leg of the tour, but health is more important. I hope Bono makes a full recovery and the band has a great tour in 2011
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: dwaltman on May 25, 2010, 09:07:03 AM
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video of Paul McGuiness outside the hospital from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10154682.stm

@Scotty - thanks for the video link! 

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With the large secondary ticket market that is marketed by TicketMaster and Live Nation themselves, I think it would be irresponsible to give refunds and resell a show.  In this day & age, "ticket holders" should be given the option of returning tickets for refunds. 

TM and LN will allow refunds for direct ticket holders but its more a matter of Stub Hub, brokers, scalpers & other secondary sources including ticket trading.  Is that what you're alluding to (?)  The broker outlets & trades are problematic b/c usually ticket refunds are only for the original purchaser. 

What I am saying is that TM and LN promote the secondary market.  TM has a secondary market feature built into their website.  Everyone knows that there is a large secondary market.  To give refunds to the original purchaser allows the broker to get their money back on tickets already sold on the secondary market.  Because the industry allows this to continue, sometimes fraudulently, I think the best solution is to allow ticket holders to keep their tickets for the rescheduled shows and/or get refunds only for hard tickets....but that's probably not possible with all the e-Tickets floating around.  It really is a mess.  I'm sure U2/Live Nation/Blackberry have insurance to cover their losses.  I know some of you will say that we assume the risk  when purchasing on the secondary market and that is true but b/c of the system, it's the only way to get tickets in some cases.  In my case, I wasn't planning on going to this leg, gave me U2 code to someone who hasn't seen the band live, then I changed my mind and bought tickets on craigslist.  Just one perspective.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 09:16:02 AM
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video of Paul McGuiness outside the hospital from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10154682.stm

@Scotty - thanks for the video link! 

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With the large secondary ticket market that is marketed by TicketMaster and Live Nation themselves, I think it would be irresponsible to give refunds and resell a show.  In this day & age, "ticket holders" should be given the option of returning tickets for refunds. 

TM and LN will allow refunds for direct ticket holders but its more a matter of Stub Hub, brokers, scalpers & other secondary sources including ticket trading.  Is that what you're alluding to (?)  The broker outlets & trades are problematic b/c usually ticket refunds are only for the original purchaser. 

What I am saying is that TM and LN promote the secondary market.  TM has a secondary market feature built into their website.  Everyone knows that there is a large secondary market.  To give refunds to the original purchaser allows the broker to get their money back on tickets already sold on the secondary market.  Because the industry allows this to continue, sometimes fraudulently, I think the best solution is to allow ticket holders to keep their tickets for the rescheduled shows and/or get refunds only for hard tickets....but that's probably not possible with all the e-Tickets floating around.  It really is a mess.  I'm sure U2/Live Nation/Blackberry have insurance to cover their losses.  I know some of you will say that we assume the risk  when purchasing on the secondary market and that is true but b/c of the system, it's the only way to get tickets in some cases.  In my case, I wasn't planning on going to this leg, gave me U2 code to someone who hasn't seen the band live, then I changed my mind and bought tickets on craigslist.  Just one perspective.

Okay I see what you're saying now.  I knew that TM & LN had a secondary market themselves but I didn't know that TM & LN gave refunds to the brokers directly, and bypassed the purchasers.  That sucks!   :P   Just for the record, I feel badly for all legitmate ticket holders and fans, and however they got their tickets, whether by trade, craigslist or any other way.   Hopefully if people cannot go to the rescheduled dates, there's a remedies for that...  I think if you're a U2.com member with presale codes & purchases, some solution will be found for the next round, and I hope other means are compensated in some way too.  (eg) Selling your ticket to someone who can go. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: TyraRay on May 25, 2010, 09:20:10 AM
25 days to 200+
 :'( :'( :'(


I really just hope hes okay and not in to much pain.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: silvrlvr on May 25, 2010, 09:53:14 AM
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That seemed to be a very serious injury that Bono had. I am glad that they were able to operate in time and he has a hard road ahead in terms of recuperation. The band must be devastated about Glastonbury and the 2nd leg of the tour, but health is more important. I hope Bono makes a full recovery and the band has a great tour in 2011

It was extremely serious, and it explains why they were so careful last week in making the initial announcement. The delay gave them the weekend to notify venues and the Glasto folks, and also to let staff know to stay put. I'm pretty stunned by the details we got today. For an ordinary person, this kind of a situation would severely threaten their mobility. For a rock star, it could have been career-threatening (of course, Bono can always sit to sing, but that wouldn't be Bono).

One thought about Bono and his back issues: I found some photos I took at Chicago 2 of Bono lying on the runway during a song, flat on his back. At the time, we thought Bono was being dramatic. Now, I wonder if he was in pain and/or taking a break because he literally needed to lie down.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 10:55:47 AM
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That seemed to be a very serious injury that Bono had. I am glad that they were able to operate in time and he has a hard road ahead in terms of recuperation. The band must be devastated about Glastonbury and the 2nd leg of the tour, but health is more important. I hope Bono makes a full recovery and the band has a great tour in 2011

It was extremely serious, and it explains why they were so careful last week in making the initial announcement. The delay gave them the weekend to notify venues and the Glasto folks, and also to let staff know to stay put. I'm pretty stunned by the details we got today. For an ordinary person, this kind of a situation would severely threaten their mobility. For a rock star, it could have been career-threatening (of course, Bono can always sit to sing, but that wouldn't be Bono).

One thought about Bono and his back issues: I found some photos I took at Chicago 2 of Bono lying on the runway during a song, flat on his back. At the time, we thought Bono was being dramatic. Now, I wonder if he was in pain and/or taking a break because he literally needed to lie down.

He's laid down on many past shows and tours - its probably been at times a break for his back & at other times,  just for the heck of it. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: tsakhuja [Desert Sky] on May 25, 2010, 11:05:40 AM
We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 25, 2010, 11:09:14 AM
Edge interview as reported by @U2;

"We're 95% confident that Bono will be back in time for our European leg."

"The doctors are saying minimum 8 weeks. We'll make sure Bono doesn't come back too soon. I'd say mid-August we'll be back."

"We have a lot of new songs and we're very excited. Then I think he hinted that they might go into the studio. Interview over. "

 "We wrote a lot of songs, one of them was a tune inspired by the Glastonbury Festival. People will have to wait a while to hear it."

...Note that first he says they'll be back in time for Europe... then says they'll be back by Mid-August. Early European dates in trouble? Or does Edge just think the tour starts later than it does?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

No we don't.  It could have been a fall or actually just a subtle movement that was the straw that broke his back literally ( or ruptured the disk & fragment).  In any case, I am surprised they gave as much information to us all as they did, and give kudos to them for sharing this detailed medical information.  It explains enough that we all know better what condition he's in and what may lie ahead, and its a testament to how much they care about not just "money" but their dedication to fans.  At least imo.   :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 11:12:49 AM
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Edge interview as reported by @U2;

"We're 95% confident that Bono will be back in time for our European leg."

"The doctors are saying minimum 8 weeks. We'll make sure Bono doesn't come back too soon. I'd say mid-August we'll be back."

"We have a lot of new songs and we're very excited. Then I think he hinted that they might go into the studio. Interview over. "

 "We wrote a lot of songs, one of them was a tune inspired by the Glastonbury Festival. People will have to wait a while to hear it."

...Note that first he says they'll be back in time for Europe... then says they'll be back by Mid-August. Early European dates in trouble? Or does Edge just think the tour starts later than it does?


Is this on their blog?  I don't see it - link please!   :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: The Unknown Caller on May 25, 2010, 11:13:33 AM
Twitter!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Passenger84 on May 25, 2010, 11:14:39 AM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but it might be possible that after this surgery and rehab, Bono might come back in some of the best form of his life.  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
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Twitter!

I'm not on twitter following so Thanks a bunch!  Link here:  http://twitter.com/atu2/ (http://twitter.com/atu2/)
Awesome! 

He's on now --> RT @jaimearodriguez: The Edge will be calling Los Angeles station KRoq http://bit.ly/aV1pQ9   (http://bit.ly/aV1pQ9)   17 minutes ago  via TweetDeck 

Ok, the link doesn't work for me but hopefully some of you can get this.  

EDIT update:  atU2's news link:  http://www.atu2.com/news/edge-were-95-confident-bono-will-make-european-leg.html (http://www.atu2.com/news/edge-were-95-confident-bono-will-make-european-leg.html)  and
clip of Edge from atu2 Blog on the KROC interview:  http://www.atu2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/edge-kroq.mp3 (http://www.atu2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/edge-kroq.mp3)

@TD below, WTF?   >:(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Tumbling Dice on May 25, 2010, 11:16:15 AM
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Edge interview as reported by @U2;

"We're 95% confident that Bono will be back in time for our European leg."

"The doctors are saying minimum 8 weeks. We'll make sure Bono doesn't come back too soon. I'd say mid-August we'll be back."

"We have a lot of new songs and we're very excited. Then I think he hinted that they might go into the studio. Interview over. "

 "We wrote a lot of songs, one of them was a tune inspired by the Glastonbury Festival. People will have to wait a while to hear it."

...Note that first he says they'll be back in time for Europe... then says they'll be back by Mid-August. Early European dates in trouble? Or does Edge just think the tour starts later than it does?


It sounds like The Edge has taken on Bono's BS'ing responsibilities.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: whitecanvasshoes on May 25, 2010, 11:33:29 AM
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Edge interview as reported by @U2;

"We're 95% confident that Bono will be back in time for our European leg."

"The doctors are saying minimum 8 weeks. We'll make sure Bono doesn't come back too soon. I'd say mid-August we'll be back."

"We have a lot of new songs and we're very excited. Then I think he hinted that they might go into the studio. Interview over. "

 "We wrote a lot of songs, one of them was a tune inspired by the Glastonbury Festival. People will have to wait a while to hear it."

...Note that first he says they'll be back in time for Europe... then says they'll be back by Mid-August. Early European dates in trouble? Or does Edge just think the tour starts later than it does?


It sounds like The Edge has taken on Bono's BS'ing responsibilities.


 :) Hilarious.  Now we just need him to say he's "on fire" to confirm that.  :) (or would that be too much bragging?)  :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 25, 2010, 11:42:23 AM
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but it might be possible that after this surgery and rehab, Bono might come back in some of the best form of his life.  ;D

I like your optimism!  We could all use a little of that right now!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 25, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
well, edge is being optimistic.  but hey, Bono's come back from a lot.  perhaps this will have finally fixed his back problems and he'll be better after.  you never know.  all i know is, that first concert in Europe (if he makes it) is going to be UNREAAAAAAAAAAL
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on May 25, 2010, 12:41:07 PM
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well, edge is being optimistic.  but hey, Bono's come back from a lot.  perhaps this will have finally fixed his back problems and he'll be better after.  you never know.  all i know is, that first concert in Europe (if he makes it) is going to be UNREAAAAAAAAAAL

I just hope that the bone fragments in his spinal cord didn't cause permanent damage

And yes, Europe 1 will be insane  :D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 25, 2010, 12:41:55 PM
:( i hope so too.  although they said everything's good.  i still want to know what happened!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: in_eden on May 25, 2010, 01:00:09 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on May 25, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
jeez and to think he probably came THIS close to being paralyzed and never playing a show.  ever. christ...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: LoveSupreme on May 25, 2010, 01:08:35 PM
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jeez and to think he probably came THIS close to being paralyzed and never playing a show.  ever. christ...


Thats really scary. Lets not dwell on that. He's home & healing now.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 01:10:06 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


Thank you in_edun for taking the time to give your in depth explanation and opinion in fairly lay terms.  While you are not Bono's doctor you obviously have in depth knowledge and I can say from experience, that these things are quite true.  Moreover, it should be said that when surgeons give a timeline for recovery and "fully recovered' that is not what it means to lay people.  "Fully recovered" in medical-surgical terms, means the bone and wounds have healed completely, are stable, and the intense rehabilitation can start.  In other words, Edge's optimism for the EU leg is indeed likely overly optimistic.  The body can only heal itself at a certain rate, and this will take time as you note.  
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 25, 2010, 03:17:02 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


I have a question:  When you use the term "fusion" you mean "bones fused together" right?  This would have to alter the way a person moves.  What are your thoughts here?

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: MistyLeigh32 on May 25, 2010, 03:18:09 PM
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jeez and to think he probably came THIS close to being paralyzed and never playing a show.  ever. christ...

I have been having similar thoughts all day myself.  I am really guilty of always looking forward to the next show that I don't even consider that there might not be a next time. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 25, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


Thank you so much for your information , in eden.  I have had problems and some paralysis with my spine and I know how serious this all was. I appreciate you explaining it all to us so we can understand that he cannot just run back in a few months and run around on a stage. It is indeed very scary stuff!  Bono needs a lot of  time to get well.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on May 25, 2010, 04:51:19 PM
I was thinking he was Super Human for the longest time.  Shame on me!!!  I'd like the chance to put my arms around him and apologize.  8) 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: satellitedog01 on May 25, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
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I just hope that the bone fragments in his spinal cord didn't cause permanent damage

And yes, Europe 1 will be insane  :D

Well there are people in the world, who need some Bono fragments in their spines, metaphorically speaking.

and, Europe is mostly insane even now... :-)

Viva Zooropa! Viva Bono!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: liveaid85 on May 25, 2010, 05:36:50 PM
I've been a fan attending U2 concerts since 1983 and have been blessed to have met the band several times.

At the risk of being chastised again (like I was in here on Friday) by some who think the tour is more important than the man, I will share my experience as a person who has had a spinal fusion. For me, it was a life-altering injury. I used to ski, bike, jog, now I walk, do yoga and swim. I had bone fragments floating in spine as well and had to re-learn how to walk.

Bono will need a lot of time for rehab and it's slow going at first. It's also scary and exhausting to go through an experience like this, and I can't imagine the pressure he must be under. He needs the support of his family, friends, bandmates fans, and nobody telling him to get back to the tour any time soon. My love and prayers are with him and I want to thank Principle Management for being so open in sharing the details with the fans.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Womando on May 25, 2010, 08:51:08 PM
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but it might be possible that after this surgery and rehab, Bono might come back in some of the best form of his life.  ;D

I'm hoping he'll actually be able to dance!!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Georgia on May 25, 2010, 09:28:26 PM
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I was thinking he was Super Human for the longest time.  Shame on me!!!  I'd like the chance to put my arms around him and apologize.  8) 

Wouldn't we all.... ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 25, 2010, 10:12:39 PM
LOL @ him being super human!   :D  And the hugs too! 

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I've been a fan attending U2 concerts since 1983 and have been blessed to have met the band several times.

At the risk of being chastised again (like I was in here on Friday) by some who think the tour is more important than the man, I will share my experience as a person who has had a spinal fusion. For me, it was a life-altering injury. I used to ski, bike, jog, now I walk, do yoga and swim. I had bone fragments floating in spine as well and had to re-learn how to walk.

Bono will need a lot of time for rehab and it's slow going at first. It's also scary and exhausting to go through an experience like this, and I can't imagine the pressure he must be under. He needs the support of his family, friends, bandmates fans, and nobody telling him to get back to the tour any time soon. My love and prayers are with him and I want to thank Principle Management for being so open in sharing the details with the fans.


+1!  ( at minimum in here!)

Sorry you were chastised...and thanks for sharing.  (((HUGS )))) to you too, and SG! 
Much depends on what damage if any there was from the fragment and Spinal fusion can cause pain and degeneration in other areas of the spine later....or he may be pain free,  if lucky.  In any case the surgery is major, life changing, and rehab is no cake walk.  Here's hoping ( again) for the most positive results -  that it all goes well for him in the coming months.... and also to the health of any and all fans here, who have ongoing back, spine or pain problems or any health issues. Never take it for granted & always count one's blessings.     
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: tsakhuja [Desert Sky] on May 25, 2010, 10:52:25 PM
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What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


It seems the Edge confirms that, as you state, it was a quick transition (and without an injury) from bearable pain to a condition requiring emergency surgery, as he seems to describe an inexplicable, rapid turn for the worse in his video statement.  Just goes to remind everyone that U2 are in fact human.  It's easy to forget that, as people who literally worship them.

As an aside, I'm still saddened about the passing of Billy Mays last summer.  You never know what life will throw at you.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 26, 2010, 08:25:52 AM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


Thank you for the information.   And this was exactly what my doctor warned me about.  When, I injured my back.  I had a tear in the ligament, bulging disc and compressed Sciatic Nerve.  I was fortunate.  I didn't have to have surgery.  Even though, the pain was horrible.  I still had function of my legs, bladder, etc.   
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 26, 2010, 10:36:15 AM
Although back pain is very common & spinal surgery less so, its interesting how many of us here have gone through this and can relate or share stories and feelings on this.  One can't imagine the terrible pain and process unless you've been through it although compassion goes a long way.  Understanding and patience will go further & to help Bono get better.  I hope he finds patience with himself too, and we can all 'carry him' in some way, as he & U2 have often carried fans.   :)

@inishfree - I'm glad you've avoided surgery but just sorry to hear you've had to deal with that kind of pain.  Hopefully you've found relief by some means or your back has improved.  Hang in there! 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 27, 2010, 07:08:44 AM
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Although back pain is very common & spinal surgery less so, its interesting how many of us here have gone through this and can relate or share stories and feelings on this.  One can't imagine the terrible pain and process unless you've been through it although compassion goes a long way.  Understanding and patience will go further & to help Bono get better.  I hope he finds patience with himself too, and we can all 'carry him' in some way, as he & U2 have often carried fans.   :)

@inishfree - I'm glad you've avoided surgery but just sorry to hear you've had to deal with that kind of pain.  Hopefully you've found relief by some means or your back has improved.  Hang in there! 

Thank you for your kind words.  My back still gives me a bit of problem, now and then.  I would be lying if I said otherwise.  But, it is much better now.  Luckily, I didn't have disc fragments floating around in the spinal canal.  So, I was able to heal with bed rest, then physical therapy.

This is why I felt so badly for Bono.  Strong Girl did too.  We have both been there. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 27, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
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Although back pain is very common & spinal surgery less so, its interesting how many of us here have gone through this and can relate or share stories and feelings on this.  One can't imagine the terrible pain and process unless you've been through it although compassion goes a long way.  Understanding and patience will go further & to help Bono get better.  I hope he finds patience with himself too, and we can all 'carry him' in some way, as he & U2 have often carried fans.   :)

@inishfree - I'm glad you've avoided surgery but just sorry to hear you've had to deal with that kind of pain.  Hopefully you've found relief by some means or your back has improved.  Hang in there! 

Thank you for your kind words.  My back still gives me a bit of problem, now and then.  I would be lying if I said otherwise.  But, it is much better now.  Luckily, I didn't have disc fragments floating around in the spinal canal.  So, I was able to heal with bed rest, then physical therapy.

This is why I felt so badly for Bono.  Strong Girl did too.  We have both been there. 

Me too!   :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 28, 2010, 06:35:14 AM
p8ru2.......I am sorry to hear this.  I think there are a few others here.  Who have had the same injury.  Probably due to sports.  Mine was a result from being thrown down on a mat, in my Martial Arts class.  I don't train anymore.  I'm not able to.  Without the high risk of re-injury. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Aqua on May 28, 2010, 06:47:02 AM
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p8ru2.......I am sorry to hear this.  I think there are a few others here.  Who have had the same injury.  Probably due to sports.  Mine was a result from being thrown down on a mat, in my Martial Arts class.  I don't train anymore.  I'm not able to.  Without the high risk of re-injury. 
that.. sucks. im so sorry to hear that :(
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: silvrlvr on May 28, 2010, 08:55:35 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


Thanks for all this good info. I have some experience with spinal injuries in my family and I'm highly skeptical of the 8 week recovery prognosis. I also think the Euro tour will be canceled, but I don't think U2 want to announce that on top of the North American tour cancellation. Contracts are different with each venue, and there is so much to be sorted out in the States and Canada first -- better to do that first and then address the Euro dates. Live Nation most likely faces some liability, and perhaps they want to book the North American hit in the second quarter and wait until the third quarter for the Euro hit against income.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on May 29, 2010, 06:59:19 AM
I agree, I previously said I had the same basic thing, my 4th vertebrae in my
neck which affected the nerve in my left arm. I was hurting for a solid two months
at least and then I was suppose to have rehab, but didnt do it.

For the leg nerve, you prob really need to do rehab. I'd dont know when he will
recover, He Will, but not in 8 weeks i dont think either.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 29, 2010, 08:10:33 AM
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p8ru2.......I am sorry to hear this.  I think there are a few others here.  Who have had the same injury.  Probably due to sports.  Mine was a result from being thrown down on a mat, in my Martial Arts class.  I don't train anymore.  I'm not able to.  Without the high risk of re-injury. 
that.. sucks. im so sorry to hear that :(


Thank you......My injury happened twelve years ago and if I over do it.  My back and legs will hurt.  Though, nothing like I experience when the injury first happened.  Basically, my doctor told me......once a back injury, always back problems. 

My advice to Bono.......when a fan is invited on stage.  Do not let them jump on your back or lift you up and swing you around.  That could cause re-injury.  The ligament surrounding the disc has become weak and it is easy to tear again.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 29, 2010, 08:14:16 AM
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I agree, I previously said I had the same basic thing, my 4th vertebrae in my
neck which affected the nerve in my left arm. I was hurting for a solid two months
at least and then I was suppose to have rehab, but didnt do it.

For the leg nerve, you prob really need to do rehab. I'd dont know when he will
recover, He Will, but not in 8 weeks i dont think either.

I am sorry to hear of your injury.  But, I think you are correct.  When the Sciatic Nerve is compressed it does take longer than eight weeks.  It did for me.  But, I didn't have surgery.  After eight weeks, I had to work on flexibility.  Being able to bend, lift my legs and walk. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ayajedi on May 29, 2010, 03:36:20 PM
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We still don't know what actually 'happened,' correct?  It seems like there had to some sort of trauma to aggravate his back to the point where he needed emergency surgery.  Unlikely merely the worsening of a preexisting condition.

I am a certified Orthotist/Prosthetist in the US who works very closely with spine surgeons and spinal rehab.
From the sounds of it, Bono has had a bulging disc for some time, and recently symptoms have worsened. Low Back Pain is quite common, and is lived with by millions. But the condition can become very serious very quickly without any additional injury.
The lumbar spine is pretty much a load bearing column... pretty much the only weight bearing structure holding up your torso, head, arms, and anything you may be carrying.
The 5 vertabrae segment of the spine curves in a concave arc, called lordosis, that aids in standing balance and allows for us to remain upright with our shoulders over our hips.
The problem with the anatomical design is that all of our root nerves exit the spinal canal through little passages between the spinous processes at the back of the vertebral bodies. The space surrounding these nerves is very small.
So when an injury occurs and a disc is ruptured, it protrudes out of the anterior column (vertebral bodies) and into the spinal canal. -like jelly squirting out from between two slices of bread.
To complicate matters, there is a condition called Spinal Stenosis where through simply living in a world burdened by gravity that lordosis increases and over time narrows the channels that the nerves run through.
What results is a slow gradual pinching of a root nerve.
What takes this from "something I'll address soon" to "emergency surgery" is motor function loss.
The latest report was that bono began to become paralyzed one of his legs, a sign that the femoral nerve or sciatic nerve was compromised or severed. Once that starts, it is a race against the clock before the damage is permenant... if it's not already.
Once in surgery, it sounds like there was more damage than anticipated, including some paraspinal ligaments as well as floating bone in the spinal canal (a condition called spondylolysis).
In a matter of days Bono's back could have gone from an irritation to paralyzing him... without falling, or being injured in any way.
It sounds like he had a lumbar fusion, which usually requires a long recovery.
8 weeks would be a conservative estimate as to when he could resume "normal activities"... and my guess is that several if not all of the European leg will be postponed.
It's scary stuff. Spinal injuries are usually a one way street. Especially when there is motor loss.
Hopefully, if all went well, he's feeling better today. Post-op day 3 is the worst...
It is really important that he take the proper time to recover. This isn't the kind of thing that you want to do twice!


Thanks for posting this. Even I could understand it :) I really hope that Bono takes his time and makes a full recovery
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: bloom on May 29, 2010, 04:51:15 PM
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Thanks for all this good info. I have some experience with spinal injuries in my family and I'm highly skeptical of the 8 week recovery prognosis. I also think the Euro tour will be canceled, but I don't think U2 want to announce that on top of the North American tour cancellation. Contracts are different with each venue, and there is so much to be sorted out in the States and Canada first -- better to do that first and then address the Euro dates. Live Nation most likely faces some liability, and perhaps they want to book the North American hit in the second quarter and wait until the third quarter for the Euro hit against income.

I know what you're saying, but I don't think they're deliberately being deceptive with us. I take Edge at his word that they really feel optimistic they can be ready for the European dates...I don't think they'd specifically say something like "we're 95 percent sure" if they were secretly planning to cancel them. However, I know what you mean about wondering whether that optimism is misplaced...I've never had back surgery, but I have had the experience of recovering from a major surgery, and I think no matter what kind of surgery it is, if it involved being laid up for a period, just the process of getting your strength back takes a long time, let alone the actual healing. But, we have to remember that they're making their decisions with lots of input from professionals who know much more about the specifics than we do...and I suppose Bono will be rehabilitating somewhat more aggressively than I was! I just hope he has someone monitoring him to make sure he doesn't overdo it - as I think if he was left to his own devices he undoubtedly would! :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Womando on May 29, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
OK, I think the "8 week" recovery they're talking about is when he'll be medically cleared to resume (somewhat) normal daily activities, or possibly get off bedrest. That will probably be when he will START his rehab and physical therapy. The 8 weeks is for his body to recover from the surgery, with big restrictions on his activity. The recovery period the doctors are talking about is for the tissues to heal. We're all talking about how long it will take him to fully recover, and be able to tour again. that will take months. You who have had back surgery, does this sound accurate?
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: birdlover on May 29, 2010, 05:38:55 PM
While I know that reading a book or two doesn't make an expert, I did mange to find one by a board certified back surgeon regarding surgery like the one Bono had.

According to Dr. Tindel, bed rest is absolutely the worst thing for someone right after back surgery. The back only gets weaker the longer one rests. So the next 8 weeks is probably going to be filled with gradually intensifying PT. Poor Bono!

That said, I agree that it's unlikely they'll be able to start the tour on the 6th. Given the cost and trouble involved in moving the Claws, I think the whole European leg is going to have to be rescheduled.
However, U2 is nothing if not optimistic so perhaps they're holding out hope for it yet. Not to mention the affect on Bono's psyche if he believes they can make it. He's got to be feeling awful right now and I bet they'd do anything to make it easier on him.
For the sake of the fans planning on the shows in Europe, I really hope they're right and I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: bloom on May 29, 2010, 05:50:18 PM
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While I know that reading a book or two doesn't make an expert, I did mange to find one by a board certified back surgeon regarding surgery like the one Bono had.

According to Dr. Tindel, bed rest is absolutely the worst thing for someone right after back surgery. The back only gets weaker the longer one rests. So the next 8 weeks is probably going to be filled with gradually intensifying PT. Poor Bono!

That said, I agree that it's unlikely they'll be able to start the tour on the 6th. Given the cost and trouble involved in moving the Claws, I think the whole European leg is going to have to be rescheduled.
However, U2 is nothing if not optimistic so perhaps they're holding out hope for it yet. Not to mention the affect on Bono's psyche if he believes they can make it. He's got to be feeling awful right now and I bet they'd do anything to make it easier on him.
For the sake of the fans planning on the shows in Europe, I really hope they're right and I'm wrong.

That's a really good point birdlover! As I'm sure is the case with all of the rest of you who've had these experiences, this whole thing with Bono has got me thinking a lot about my surgery experience a few years back - which was also totally unexpected - and I remember how it turned my whole world upside down both physically AND emotionally. It's such a weird thing to go through, and you have so much time in your own head...anyway, I can't imagine WHAT it would be like to have to wrestle with the knowledge that your experience was directly impacting the plans and finances of millions of people on top of everything else. But I know he's got a strong support network of people around him, so I'm optimistic he's handling things fine...but I do really feel for him when I think of it!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: whitewave on May 29, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: StrongGirl on May 30, 2010, 12:23:48 AM
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I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.

I agree whitewave. Bono seems like the type of person that would , but that could be the worst thing for him!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 30, 2010, 04:40:59 AM
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I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.

I agree whitewave. Bono seems like the type of person that would , but that could be the worst thing for him!

I'm counting on Ali and the band to keep him inline.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Georgia on May 30, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
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I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.

I agree whitewave. Bono seems like the type of person that would , but that could be the worst thing for him!

I'm counting on Ali and the band to keep him inline.

Edge promised to chain him down if need be.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 30, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
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I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.

I agree whitewave. Bono seems like the type of person that would , but that could be the worst thing for him!

I'm counting on Ali and the band to keep him inline.

Edge promised to chain him down if need be.

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 30, 2010, 07:55:18 PM
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I hope he doesn't try to push himself past what the PT's advise.  I do know that back injuries take a while to heal let alone surgery.  I was hit by a car when I was on a bike--totalled the bike, I rolledover the hood.  Luckily only hurt my upper back  but to this day that injury haunts me.

Oh my goodness.....I am so glad that you were not killed. 

Sadly, though it is true.  Once a back injury, always a back injury.  Please, be careful. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on May 31, 2010, 01:03:11 AM
Bono:  Doctor's order must be followed, don't be a renegade, follow directions for once!!  we are depending on you!  Show us how it's done...teach me, babe!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 31, 2010, 07:45:44 AM
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Bono:  Doctor's order must be followed, don't be a renegade, follow directions for once!!  we are depending on you!  Show us how it's done...teach me, babe!

Great advise......back injury does take a while to heal.  But, if Bono follows his doctor's orders.  He should make a full recovery. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mariamontreal on May 31, 2010, 11:34:25 AM
I don't believe Bono would take that chance , all of his antics in his younger years are the reason why he has back problems, I am positive that he will heed the calling there is too much money at stake . Ali and the family will see to it . We will see them play next year when he is better and stronger. Strutting around  is ok , no jumping and he will be fine .
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Monicalea on May 31, 2010, 11:41:06 AM
I'm betting that we won't see him swinging from the Wii steering wheel anymore when they do get back on the road.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on May 31, 2010, 11:48:16 AM
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I'm betting that we won't see him swinging from the Wii steering wheel anymore when they do get back on the road.



I'll take that action.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Doodle on May 31, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
I had tickets for the June 30th show, but waiting is fine for me.
I just hope Bono gets better and follows all of the doctor's orders. Imagine what might happen if they went back on tour and Bono wasn't fully recovered!
And I hope what Edge said about the shows being better than ever when they come back will be true!  :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 31, 2010, 01:59:13 PM
@monicalea -
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Edge promised to chain him down if need be.

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

LMAO!   :D

Seriously though....

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OK, I think the "8 week" recovery they're talking about is when he'll be medically cleared to resume (somewhat) normal daily activities, or possibly get off bedrest. That will probably be when he will START his rehab and physical therapy. The 8 weeks is for his body to recover from the surgery, with big restrictions on his activity. The recovery period the doctors are talking about is for the tissues to heal. We're all talking about how long it will take him to fully recover, and be able to tour again. that will take months. You who have had back surgery, does this sound accurate?

^^^^This is correct in most cases.   

@birdlover - Each case would be different but I'd say Womando is bang on, so I'd disagree with that Dr. if that is what he had said ( re:immediately post surgery).   Later, after surgical recovery, I would agree,  that weakness of the back and range of motion must be strengthened by intensive PT, core strengthening & stretching.

@inishfree & aqua - thanks for the empathy/ sympathies.  I'm reasonably okay now but there is pain and residual deficits as many here well know & have experienced.   

@ bloom, theocean & whitewave - Sorry to hear of your injuries too!  And I'm glad it wasn't even worse for you! And whether or not it was neck, back or other surgeries.

I think Bono's biggest challenge will be not overdoing it b/c of his innate personality, will & determination and mind, which will not match his body's capabilities, at least at first.  So he has to work hard at rehab butbe monitored very closely and STOP when its needed so he doesn't re-injure himself and have some setbacks.  Patience is the biggest key here and that's one most everyone can relate to.   :P
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Tumbling Dice on May 31, 2010, 02:02:54 PM
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I'm betting that we won't see him swinging from the Wii steering wheel anymore when they do get back on the road.



I'll take that action.

You must have money to burn.

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on May 31, 2010, 02:25:26 PM
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....I have some experience with spinal injuries in my family and I'm highly skeptical of the 8 week recovery prognosis. I also think the Euro tour will be canceled, but I don't think U2 want to announce that on top of the North American tour cancellation. Contracts are different with each venue, and there is so much to be sorted out in the States and Canada first -- better to do that first and then address the Euro dates. Live Nation most likely faces some liability, and perhaps they want to book the North American hit in the second quarter and wait until the third quarter for the Euro hit against income.

This is a good hypothesis on the announcements, silvrlvr.  And sorry you've had familial experiences with surgery too. 

As for official comments by the Edge about "95% certainty" - I said this earlier ( or in another thread) that I think Edge's optimism may be based upon what doctors have said the prognosis is.  Anyone who has had surgery esp spinal surgery, knows that what a Surgeon says is "fully recovered" and their stated time lines for this are not what laypeople feel is "fully recovered".   And there is a HUGE discrepency between the two. 

In spinal surgeries, they may say  "at least 8 weeks...  fully recovered" but that means the wound site and spinal bony matter has healed, nothing else.  The hard part of physio is after this initial 8 weeks, where one strengthens not only the paraspinal and back muscles, but all other areas weakened by the injury, surgery and hospitalization. 
 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on May 31, 2010, 08:35:24 PM
A lady at my church had lumbar fusion surgery and she is almost eighty years old.  I don't know if Bono had the same.  But, the good news is.  She recovered beautifully!  No problems with walking, driving and she even attends a swim class, twice a week.   I think Bono will make a full recovery.  It will take some time and every patient is different.  We'll just keep sending good wishes and prayers his way.

You'll get better B!  All of us are rooting for you......hugs here.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on June 01, 2010, 12:54:56 AM
Well I hope he gets better too. But I'm not rooting for him...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on June 01, 2010, 05:42:52 AM
I just realized that he will probably loose weight being sick and look very different next time we see him.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Yukona [The League of Extraordinary Bonopeople] on June 01, 2010, 05:57:30 AM
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I just realized that he will probably loose weight being sick and look very different next time we see him.

:D Well, looks like you've found the bright side!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 01, 2010, 05:58:46 AM
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Well I hope he gets better too. But I'm not rooting for him...

Mrs Briscoe would be  :o if you were.


Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on June 01, 2010, 10:40:55 AM
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I just realized that he will probably loose weight being sick and look very different next time we see him.
When I was down with an injury I gained weight because there was nothing fun to do but eat (to regain 'my strength') and sit around doing no exercise whatsoever.  you just never know which way it will go.  But I love him no matter what   ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 01, 2010, 09:59:40 PM
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I just realized that he will probably loose weight being sick and look very different next time we see him.
When I was down with an injury I gained weight because there was nothing fun to do but eat (to regain 'my strength') and sit around doing no exercise whatsoever.  you just never know which way it will go.  But I love him no matter what   ;D

For me, it was the opposite.  I was in too much pain to eat well and I lost muscle mass.  I have since regained it and then some.... :-[
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: briscoetheque on June 01, 2010, 10:03:04 PM
That's it. I'm getting lumbar fusion. Should help me shed about 20kg I'm hoping...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Womando on June 01, 2010, 10:13:57 PM
Yes, but it will definitely NOT help Bono's height! (or lack thereof). ;)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on June 02, 2010, 12:18:20 AM
guess bono's still trying to save the world even WITH a broken back, eh?

http://www.atu2.com/news/bono-spotted-in-france.html
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 02, 2010, 09:22:35 AM
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That's it. I'm getting lumbar fusion. Should help me shed about 20kg I'm hoping...

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Yes, but it will definitely NOT help Bono's height! (or lack thereof). ;)

 :D :D   So cruel! 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: AltRockAddict on June 02, 2010, 10:38:02 AM
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guess bono's still trying to save the world even WITH a broken back, eh?

http://www.atu2.com/news/bono-spotted-in-france.html
That's our Bono!!   :-*
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: in_eden on June 03, 2010, 12:54:51 PM
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While I know that reading a book or two doesn't make an expert, I did mange to find one by a board certified back surgeon regarding surgery like the one Bono had.

According to Dr. Tindel, bed rest is absolutely the worst thing for someone right after back surgery. The back only gets weaker the longer one rests. So the next 8 weeks is probably going to be filled with gradually intensifying PT. Poor Bono!


That is true. The longer you lay around and remain inactive the tighter and stiffer everything becomes.
Typically we fit patients with some type of lumbo-sacral support that squeezes the abdoment to unweight the affected segment to alieviate some of the pain.
Still, it hurts.
You can't lift anything weighing more than a pound or two for usually 6-8 weeks, and motion is restricted as well.

Someone asked about a fusion...
Usually the damaged vertebra or vertabrae are fused to at least one above and below, using titanium cages etched with an orthoplast paste and packed with ground bone harvested from a donor site (usually the crest of the pelvis or a rib). The bone grows in and around the hardware forming a solid connection that in many ways is stronger than the original bone.
The fusion does impact rotation and flexion at that site, but if it is a small length, say 3 levels, it's not all that impactful on over-all mobility.
Once healed, there would be little evidence that the procedure was done.

BUT- healing it is VERY important. Fusions do fail. Bono is fairly young, and hopefully hasn't been abusing himself too much and has good bone density. He has a good chance of rebounding well.

It is POSSIBLE that he could be ready by August... but unlikely. September is a safer bet.
Hopefully he won't push it and re-injure himself!

Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Bads316 on June 04, 2010, 06:50:59 AM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100008357/mark-knopfler-solves-bonos-back-problems/
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 04, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/neilmccormick/100008357/mark-knopfler-solves-bonos-back-problems/

@bads316 - Thanks for posting this link...  & @in_eden - thanks for your comments too. 

Given this, I hope he doesn't rush back also b/c given what we know of Bono... he's not one to want to sit or be static at all, whether onstage or off.  And I think if he was restricted in any way on stage, that's to nobody's liking...least of all him.  In arenas and small venues, that'd work & would be totally fine but not on this stadium tour.  If we all hang tight, he'll be back in full force and form, and bring down the house. :) 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 04, 2010, 11:11:18 AM
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While I know that reading a book or two doesn't make an expert, I did mange to find one by a board certified back surgeon regarding surgery like the one Bono had.

According to Dr. Tindel, bed rest is absolutely the worst thing for someone right after back surgery. The back only gets weaker the longer one rests. So the next 8 weeks is probably going to be filled with gradually intensifying PT. Poor Bono!


That is true. The longer you lay around and remain inactive the tighter and stiffer everything becomes.
Typically we fit patients with some type of lumbo-sacral support that squeezes the abdoment to unweight the affected segment to alieviate some of the pain.
Still, it hurts.
You can't lift anything weighing more than a pound or two for usually 6-8 weeks, and motion is restricted as well.

Someone asked about a fusion...
Usually the damaged vertebra or vertabrae are fused to at least one above and below, using titanium cages etched with an orthoplast paste and packed with ground bone harvested from a donor site (usually the crest of the pelvis or a rib). The bone grows in and around the hardware forming a solid connection that in many ways is stronger than the original bone.
The fusion does impact rotation and flexion at that site, but if it is a small length, say 3 levels, it's not all that impactful on over-all mobility.
Once healed, there would be little evidence that the procedure was done.

BUT- healing it is VERY important. Fusions do fail. Bono is fairly young, and hopefully hasn't been abusing himself too much and has good bone density. He has a good chance of rebounding well.

It is POSSIBLE that he could be ready by August... but unlikely. September is a safer bet.
Hopefully he won't push it and re-injure himself!



Excellent post......For the lady at my church.  Spinal fusion was the only way for her to go.  She is almost eighty years old.  I don't think Bono had this precedure done.  I agree.  He would be too young.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 04, 2010, 11:17:39 AM
The fusion procedure has nothing to do with age but is for stability and generally if the disks are removed. And we don't know if he had fusion or not.  So I believe in_edun refers more to his age, speculation on his general bone density/health prior to any surgery & to his recovery time. The more fit & healthy you are ( which often comes with youth but isn't exclusive), the more likely you'll have a quicker recovery.   
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 05, 2010, 08:26:34 AM
That is true.....we don't know.  I am glad that Bono is up and about.  He seems to be recovering just fine. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 14, 2010, 05:06:12 PM
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The fusion procedure has nothing to do with age but is for stability and generally if the disks are removed. And we don't know if he had fusion or not.  So I believe in_edun refers more to his age, speculation on his general bone density/health prior to any surgery & to his recovery time. The more fit & healthy you are ( which often comes with youth but isn't exclusive), the more likely you'll have a quicker recovery.   

Thanks for the info.  I didn't know for Lumbar Fusion, that age would not be a factor.  But, what you have said.  Makes perfect sense.  Young people can have serious back problems too. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 15, 2010, 12:40:40 PM
Its great to see Bono up and about and I hope he's not overdoing it....

Not sure if these have been posted in the Bono section already but here's some recent pics ( credit to LadyB for emailing it to me!) 

Bono Doesn't Let Back Pain Slow Him Down : http://celebrity-gossip.net/bono/bono-doesnt-let-back-pain-slow-him-down-375641 (http://celebrity-gossip.net/bono/bono-doesnt-let-back-pain-slow-him-down-375641)

I like this one & he's looking great!:  http://celebrity-gossip.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullsize_image/images/b/bono-061310-12.jpg (http://celebrity-gossip.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullsize_image/images/b/bono-061310-12.jpg)

I wonder who the woman is? - it doesn't look like Eve or Jordan...
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: hurricane hugo on June 15, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
she obviously didn't want to be recognized

#@!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: lorijane on June 15, 2010, 01:40:43 PM
According to the fine folks at Interference, and I'm pretty sure they know, the woman is Catriona, Bono's personal assistant.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 15, 2010, 01:56:27 PM
p8ru2......thanks for posting the links.  Bono is looking wonderful. 
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 15, 2010, 04:56:39 PM
@lorijane - Hey thanks on the woman/ Catrionia!  Mystery solved!   :)

And @Inishfree - I couldn't agree more and you're welcome.  More pics from monicalea, here: http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,329.9540.html (http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,329.9540.html)
Its definitely encouraging to see him look so well and out and about! :) :)
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: theocean on June 15, 2010, 10:10:18 PM
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According to the fine folks at Interference, and I'm pretty sure they know, the woman is Catriona, Bono's personal assistant.

She seems very stylish.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Belisama on June 16, 2010, 04:24:58 AM
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According to the fine folks at Interference, and I'm pretty sure they know, the woman is Catriona, Bono's personal assistant.

She seems very stylish.

If you were being photgraphed next to Bono all the time, wouldn't you be?  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mariamontreal on June 16, 2010, 06:18:16 AM
He looks great , so happy to see he is out and moving around . Keep it up Bono, we patiently wait for your return ( 2011  )  whew ... still a  long time to wait  but  I am still hanging on  to see you 2 nights in Montreal.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: ILoveEd on June 16, 2010, 07:57:05 AM
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He looks great , so happy to see he is out and moving around . Keep it up Bono, we patiently wait for your return ( 2011  )  whew ... still a  long time to wait  but  I am still hanging on  to see you 2 nights in Montreal.

I'll be in Montreal, too  :) Gettting ready to start (another) countdown as soon as the dates are somewhat close  ;D
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: silvrlvr on June 16, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Thanks, p8ru2. Agreed that 8 weeks is when Bono is likely to be healed, but that's "healing" for a normal person who might go to an office. Bono is the equivalent of an athlete on stage -- he runs, he bounces, he climbs stairs and leans over railings. We won't know really for weeks whether he can resume those kinds of activities. I also wonder if the band might consider a redesign of the show to accommodate Bono's condition. I don't want him to feel obligated to be the "old Bono" if the "new Bono" is better off playing it a little safer.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: Inishfree on June 16, 2010, 08:32:51 PM
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Thanks, p8ru2. Agreed that 8 weeks is when Bono is likely to be healed, but that's "healing" for a normal person who might go to an office. Bono is the equivalent of an athlete on stage -- he runs, he bounces, he climbs stairs and leans over railings. We won't know really for weeks whether he can resume those kinds of activities. I also wonder if the band might consider a redesign of the show to accommodate Bono's condition. I don't want him to feel obligated to be the "old Bono" if the "new Bono" is better off playing it a little safer.

I agree......he may do a sexy walk, instead of run. 

But, either way.  We know that Bono always puts his heart and soul into it.  And gives the very best performance, he can.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 17, 2010, 07:07:25 PM
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Thanks, p8ru2. Agreed that 8 weeks is when Bono is likely to be healed, but that's "healing" for a normal person who might go to an office. Bono is the equivalent of an athlete on stage -- he runs, he bounces, he climbs stairs and leans over railings. We won't know really for weeks whether he can resume those kinds of activities. I also wonder if the band might consider a redesign of the show to accommodate Bono's condition. I don't want him to feel obligated to be the "old Bono" if the "new Bono" is better off playing it a little safer.

I agree......he may do a sexy walk, instead of run. 

But, either way.  We know that Bono always puts his heart and soul into it.  And gives the very best performance, he can.

I concur on both silvrlvr & Inishfree's points, totally! Passion into his performances but not pushing his physical limits on stage.  I wonder both what, if anything they'll do to accommodate him as you mention, and whether or not he'll slow down on the political travels, esp. since the G8 & G20 are coming up (???)  I'm thinkin' on the latter that he may go anyway since he's out and about these days....
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: kevc on June 20, 2010, 04:40:21 AM
Noticed Gianluigi Buffon (italian football goalkeeper) is out for 4 months with a herniated disc...injury sounds of a similar nature to that of bono's, maybe not as severe.

Given he is a professional goalkeeper and plays at the highest level his recovery time is 4 months(ready to play again), given who he was treated by and the likelihood he has the best people in the world working on rehabilitation gives hope that Bono should be there and thereaboust ready for the start of the european tour (2 and a bit months of rest).......my main worry is that he i snot ready for Turin, so they postpone the whole leg rather than say the first 3-4 concerts or so (given the european leg is over best part of 2 months)

Guess we'll know for sure when the time comes round to start rehearsing.

I have tickets for rome, booked hotels and flights, at the very worst i'll have a weekend in Rome, fingers crossed that will include a revist to the olympic stadium for the U2 show!
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: mariamontreal on June 21, 2010, 06:24:58 AM
I agree p8ru2 , I would rather see him slowly moving  around in a sexy prowlness and singing as he always does with imense passion  than have him covorting all around and jumping ( will miss the leg up move ) as long as he doesn't over do it . One thing for sure , by next year he will be in top form . I will wait as long as it takes.
Title: Re: Bono Surgery
Post by: p8ru2 on June 21, 2010, 07:32:12 AM
From the various photos online, he's looking well and I hope his physio progress is too!  Keep it up Bono!   :)

m2 posted this video clip that hints at possible scheduling for spring 2011 for the N. American tour:  http://www.atu2.com/news/column-off-the-record-vol-9-415.html (http://www.atu2.com/news/column-off-the-record-vol-9-415.html)  I hope we hear something soon, maria!