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Title: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Jono on June 03, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
From @U2:
Since wrapping up the 2009 leg in October, the band has been in the studio working on three albums simultaneously: Songs of Ascent, a second volume from the sessions for last year's No Line On The Horizon; the score from the Broadway musical Spiderman; and a set of entirely new songs.

I can actually see at least two of these coming to light by years end/Holidays-  :)
What do you all think?

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Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 03, 2010, 05:26:41 PM
I can't see any of the above coming to light by year's end, or even the end of next year, but I am a notorious pessimist on these things!
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: soapit on June 04, 2010, 12:26:59 AM
i think there'll be a decent release by the end of next year but this year i think an EP and remaster of old album (R&H probably) would be about the best i'd hope for.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: miami on June 04, 2010, 05:26:19 AM
i think we'll get an ep to make up for the cancellation of tour dates and glastonbury. i hope so anyway.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Jono on June 04, 2010, 06:18:35 AM
yes, i am a 'half full' type...
we will have 'something new' by the holidays...ok, maybe not 2 new LP's...but as Miami pointed out, CERTAINLY at least an EP!
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: U2 Fanatic on June 04, 2010, 09:56:08 AM
This is awesome news!  I'm really anxious to get the new U2 album out.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Dali on June 05, 2010, 01:26:03 PM
It's great to find out that they have got and/or are preparing quite a large number of new studio material.
In the end, the labelhead will have the last thing to say on whether anything of that new material gets released or we'll get another reissue package (because they sell like pancakes these days) or another compilation album with a few new tracks (just like they have released one between every new album in the 2000s).

I get the feeling that the band U2 are currently being held back by their record deal. They could release a lot more because of the obvious signs that they clearly have written and recorded more new material.

The fact that the Rubin session tapes don't get a mention in here make me wonder if they might have abandoned the beauty that is "All My Life I've Been Waiting For This Moment I'm In". That would be a real shame because the song as it is ranges amongst their best work. Plus: I like the intimate setting of the band arrangements on that one very much.

But to be honest, I expect nothing more coming out this year than another reissue in time for the Xmas market.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 05, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
Hmm. Trying to be realistic, I'd think we might see the Spider Man material released, and as that's theatrical material, it might be a shortened compilation of the most poppy stuff. Songs of Ascent has a chance to get a 2011 spring release, but let's hope for the pre holiday release.
The third could be anything from 3-5 years away. :-)
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Inishfree on June 05, 2010, 03:54:40 PM
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From @U2:
Since wrapping up the 2009 leg in October, the band has been in the studio working on three albums simultaneously: Songs of Ascent, a second volume from the sessions for last year's No Line On The Horizon; the score from the Broadway musical Spiderman; and a set of entirely new songs.

I can actually see at least two of these coming to light by years end/Holidays-  :)
What do you all think?

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I wasn't sure which board, this or General, so please place where appropriate, thanks!

Oh.....I hope so.  Especially Songs of Accent, and a set of entirely new songs.  Must put this on my Santy Wish List.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: ZooTV8 on June 07, 2010, 03:08:10 PM
Regarding the "ENORMOUS ANNOUNCEMENT," Universal posted the following Twitter posts earlier today (http://twitter.com/LabelAz)... 

I think the most important of these messages is that the "Enormous Announcement" seems to have been pushed back to Wednesday.  Apparently, you'll also need to "follow" @LabelAZ on Twitter to receive the announcement. 

I used Babelfish.com to translate the following messages: 

TODAY (MONDAY @ 1:00 AM U.S. EDT)
FRENCH: U2/dernière precision, gaining it (or gaining it) will be obligatorily a follower Az Label!
TRANSLATION: U2/dernière précision, le gagnant (ou la gagnante) sera obligatoirement un follower du Label Az ! (I.e., "You'll have to follow AZLabel on Twitter to learn more...")

TODAY (MONDAY @ 1:00 AM U.S. EDT)
FRENCH: U2/ mercredi matin : le nom du gagnant !!!!
TRANSLATION: U2/ Wednesday morning: the name of gaining!!!!

TODAY (MONDAY @ 1:00 AM U.S. EDT)
U2/Montrez nous que vous êtes celui qui le mérite, que vous êtes un vrai fan de U2 --> (tweete suivant)
TRANSLATION: U2/Montrez us that you are that who deserves it, that you are a true fan of U2 --> (tweete according to)

LAST FRIDAY VIA TWITTER: RAPPEL U2 ///UNE ENORME SURPRISE vous attendra ici la semaine pro! FOLLOW US & watch : http://twitvid.com/AZSVE
TRANSLATION: RECALL U2 ///UNE ENORMOUS SURPRISE will await you here the week pro! US FOLLOW & watch: http://twitvid.com/AZSVE

I'll keep track of future Twitter posts, too...

Lance A. Schart
Chicago, IL USA
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: HarlemsAngel94 on June 07, 2010, 03:41:30 PM
I definitely hope to hear something new by the holidays but I don't want the boys to overwork/overproduce it. I feel like they did that for NLOTH and that led to limited success. Hopefully we can hear the rest of the NLOTH sessions and maybe the "brand" new material within the next two years or so.

I was trying to figure out if Mercy would go under any of those categories but I can't think of anything =(
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DanM321 on June 07, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
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I don't want the boys to overwork/overproduce it. I feel like they did that for NLOTH and that led to limited success.

Bullseye!  (IMO :) )

With all due respect, U2 are hugely guilty of overthinking themselves in the studio since 1997.  I'm reminded of the recording sessions for Pop, when Edge mentioned they'd recorded around 400 versions of 'Mofo'...I like 'Mofo' alright, but I think a lot of the rest of that record suffered as well.  It becomes difficult to see the forest through the trees when you've reconsidered everything not once, or twice, or ten times, but a hundred times or a thousand times.  Black turns into white and white into black, and what you were once confident in and/or surprised by seems trivial.  It's therefore easy to lose almost all sense of spontaneity.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DTH on June 08, 2010, 02:19:19 AM
The Spider Man stuff is either going to completely surprise everyone and be amazing, or will be hailed as irrefutable evidence that the band needs to hang it up.  To me, it seems like so obviously a bad idea that it must actually be good.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DanM321 on June 08, 2010, 02:46:18 AM
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To me, it seems like so obviously a bad idea that it must actually be good.

Ha!!  Great insights around here, folks.  Re: the Spider-Man project, I originally felt the same way about HMTMKMKM - it was disheartening to see the name "U2" alongside artwork for the movie 'Batman Forever' (which IMO is still a really terrible movie...in the band's defense, though, even Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds contributed a song to that same soundtrack...if Nick Cave can keep his indie cred after that, U2 has no worries).  As the years have gone by, I think it was a mistake not to include HMTMKMKM on Zooropa (it was recorded during the Zooropa sessions) - it's a great 'trashy' modern U2 song, and IMO is much better than a few of the songs that did make it onto Zooropa.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Stateless_Passenger on June 08, 2010, 03:54:35 AM
I'd imagine they might mix Songs of Ascent with new tunes they've written very recently possibly for a release later this year.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 08, 2010, 07:47:45 AM
I've been reading an interview with Edge from the time of the release of ATYCLB, and he mentioned they were taken by the new technology (digital recording method with digital sequencing software) allowed them to mess around with song structures as long as they want to, without quality loss, hence without the need to commit themselves to any version of a song, and no necessary decisions.

Technology is a bad thing for U2.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DGordon1 on June 08, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
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I've been reading an interview with Edge from the time of the release of ATYCLB, and he mentioned they were taken by the new technology (digital recording method with digital sequencing software) allowed them to mess around with song structures as long as they want to, without quality loss, hence without the need to commit themselves to any version of a song, and no necessary decisions.

Technology is a bad thing for U2.

A bold statement to make! I can't agree with such a general statement (I mean ZooTV wasn't a bad thing for U2!), although in this context I may be inclined to agree with you. But at the end of the day they have to move with the times or else they become dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 08, 2010, 01:28:04 PM
You are right, I should've made it more clear, technology is harmful to U2's studio output.
And it's strange that noone's noticed the negative effects of it at all. Not even with the last album. I like the way they used technology in the live arena in the '90s and on the Vertigo tour, however, I really hate the wait for new albums being over 3 years long, so my previous post should be read in context. I stick to that part firmly.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DGordon1 on June 08, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
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You are right, I should've made it more clear, technology is harmful to U2's studio output.
And it's strange that noone's noticed the negative effects of it at all. Not even with the last album. I like the way they used technology in the live arena in the '90s and on the Vertigo tour, however, I really hate the wait for new albums being over 3 years long, so my previous post should be read in context. I stick to that part firmly.

I certainly agree that they fiddle about with their songs too much now, and it seems like modern production techniques cater to that approach.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 08, 2010, 02:44:16 PM
The best example of the shortcomings of this approach is the difference between NLOTH and the few Moroccan snippets of its preproduction sessions (the Fez videos of an early Magnificent jam and Unknown Caller).

I would much prefer an album of somewhat looser, more live material without the frozen, plasticky Eno sheen.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Vervefloyd on June 09, 2010, 08:21:14 AM
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I've been reading an interview with Edge from the time of the release of ATYCLB, and he mentioned they were taken by the new technology (digital recording method with digital sequencing software) allowed them to mess around with song structures as long as they want to, without quality loss, hence without the need to commit themselves to any version of a song, and no necessary decisions.

Technology is a bad thing for U2.

It' clear to me that U2 is approaching technology the wrong way.  Sure recording advances are probably brilliant and make the process easier on the whole.  But lets not forget that technology is not just new advances, technology is everywhere and society has advanced negatively towards a need now society thanks in part to technology.  All this means is that U2 taking forever and thinking and rethinking and then thinking again has caused U2 to spend too much time in the studio.  Sure U2 is still selling out stadiums, but technology also reveals set lists before the band plays them.  And U2's ties to technology have left them with a rigid set structure.

In my opinion nothing would be more ground breaking for U2 then to go into the studio and be done with 11-12 songs in 2 weeks.  Just go with their gut and utilize the new advanced technology as a method to speed up the process instead of causing them to fiddle around too much.  For all the fiddling U2 does most songs end up with the same structure and jam on the breaks (ala Elevation, Beautiful Day, Vertigo, NLOTH and tons of others) at almost the same point of every song.  Fear of failure makes you over think and not trust the gut that led to those songs on boy.  Which oddly enough they have still maintained that stucture from IWF and Out of Control.

U2 needs to leave the cut and paste world of recording software and bang out raw energy again.  They would sure learn a lot about themselves that way.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: DanM321 on June 09, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
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I would much prefer an album of somewhat looser, more live material without the frozen, plasticky Eno sheen.

This is a terrific comment, IMO, although I can't lay all the blame for this quality at Eno's feet -- I mean, what about a song like 'Electrical Storm', which Eno was nowhere near, but sounds like it's encased in a cheesy Madonna-esque audio embalment courtesy of producer William Orbit?

(I also think technology has given us many incredible U2 songs - almost all my favorite songs on Zooropa and Pop are the ones which use technology to a certain extent - it's the slapdash 'traditional' rock/folk numbers on those records that come off as rushed and mediocre.)

I've been listening to the Rolling Stones' Exile on Main Street again, and the new Dead Weather album Sea of Cowards - both are so raw and un-fussed with, and so amazing and immediate.  How incredible would it be for U2 to just say "to hell with the producers and the digital effects" and just hit us with some straight up, Dublin barroom, badass gutbucket rock tunes?
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 09, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Well, while over-production can be a factor, I have ENORMOUSLY preferred the final version of just about every U2 song I can think of to the original versions where available- be it in early stuff from Fez or songs like 'Native Son' and 'Always'. I have faith in Eno.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 09, 2010, 12:07:44 PM
I have to confess I'm more a fan of Flood+team's work. They had the technology, but managed to make quicker production decisions, delivered with a ballsy sound.
Concerning Eno, I would very much like him to be there at preproduction/songwriting sessions, but only up to finishing the structures and arrangements, then leave them with a good recording/mix engineer.
He's very good at strategies, however, minute mixing changes (like Streets and Wild Horses, and the 500 mad Mofos) are not strategies.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 09, 2010, 12:14:52 PM
The Dead Weather album is in fact really powerful and quite accesabble, I watched the live promo concert on Myspace, and it worked excellently.
U2 have lots of energy in their music, and I really want them to do a "basement/garage" record, with songs like Summer Rain, Big Girls, Holy Joe, Wild Honey. Something throwaway but alive.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Dali on June 10, 2010, 05:50:58 AM
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I would much prefer an album of somewhat looser, more live material without the frozen, plasticky Eno sheen.


Yes, that's it. But not all of Eno's influence is plastic. Far from it. Too bad that on the NLOTH album, his synths have mostly been of the plastic variety.

Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: Aqua on June 10, 2010, 06:29:16 AM
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I would much prefer an album of somewhat looser, more live material without the frozen, plasticky Eno sheen.


Yes, that's it. But not all of Eno's influence is plastic. Far from it. Too bad that on the NLOTH album, his synths have mostly been of the plastic variety.


i really agree with dali here. the magnificent synths were really dull.
Title: Re: Working on 3 new Albums!
Post by: U2 Fanatic on June 10, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
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I'd imagine they might mix Songs of Ascent with new tunes they've written very recently possibly for a release later this year.

Maybe as a double album, one CD of SOA and the other the "new songs".  I think we'll get "Songs Of Accent" maybe by years end.  I expect it all to be released seperatly, but that's only my opinion.