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Title: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:16:12 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html

Out early 2011
Provisionally named 'Songs of Ascent'
Includes various types of songs (as opposed to divided into 4 albums), including EBW, Mercy, and Boy Falls From the Sky

In other news,
Someone on interference says this is the rumoured track list for the ep i mentioned in the other thread, which is apparently due 22 nov 2010. From WAIE (not sure what that is):

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

If true, i'm severely annoyed that only one new song is on it, and my least favourite at that. However, if it means its a precursor to an actual full album coming out soon, then i'll be happy.
As always, take this with a huge pinch of salt. I'll believe SoA is coming out when its officially announced on u2.com or something.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:21:58 PM
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html
this is the second time youve made me EXCITED tonight  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: shockdocta22 on October 17, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

but he says Boy Falls From the Sky is for SOA....

and he seems like hes guessing.  

but who cares?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:23:20 PM
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html
this is the second time youve made me EXCITED tonight  :D

Glad i'm doing well as a forum member  ;)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
i hope BFFTS is one the new album

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html
this is the second time youve made me EXCITED tonight  :D

Glad i'm doing well as a forum member  ;)
well is an understatement tonight  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
Looks like Mercy, EBW and Boy Falls From The Sky all confirmed for Songs of Ascent and SoA looking much more likely as a title!

I'm frankly more excited about all that than his suggested date! :P Although tying it to the US leg makes it a bit more firm, we've been led on by him before!

If that tracklist is accurate, I'm a bit disappointed but it'll be worth it for an early album! 
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:26:13 PM
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i hope BFFTS is one the new album

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html
this is the second time youve made me EXCITED tonight  :D

Glad i'm doing well as a forum member  ;)
well is an understatement tonight  :D

aww thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 06:27:14 PM
New EP to tease us and then a new album in May or so seems a very plausible, very smart strategy!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
the new songs we have *but might not be on album*

stingray
North star
Glasto
EBW
BFFTS
MERCY

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New EP to tease us and then a new album in May or so seems a very plausible, very smart strategy!
and it makes me happy  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
Greatest Post Ever at interference;

Quote
Tracklist;
1) In A Little While (Live from Torino)
2) In A Little While (Live from Moscow)
3) In A Little While (Live from Rome)
4) In A Little While (Live from Paris)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:31:01 PM
I think McGuiness citing EBW, Mercy and BFFTS as members of SoA means the amazon ep is very unlikely to have any of these tracks... except, perhaps, a lead single. But would November be too early for any SoA material? GoYB came out only a month before NLOTH, so we're unlikely to hear a new song until 2011... january at the earliest, but probably more like march or april  :-[
Oh well, if that other report is accurate, at least we get a new version of North star! That's something!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
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Greatest Post Ever at interference;

Quote
Tracklist;
1) In A Little While (Live from Torino)
2) In A Little While (Live from Moscow)
3) In A Little While (Live from Rome)
4) In A Little While (Live from Paris)
I WOULD KILL MY SELF  >:( IM tired of IN A #%@#%#% LITTLE WHILE

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
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Greatest Post Ever at interference;

Quote
Tracklist;
1) In A Little While (Live from Torino)
2) In A Little While (Live from Moscow)
3) In A Little While (Live from Rome)
4) In A Little While (Live from Paris)

Awesome  :D although to be honest the actual predicted tracklist still sucks... live tracks that were performed and released with the rose bowl dvd... at the very least, couldn't they give us some live tracks from this leg in particular? We've already heard One and Pride a million times, and incredibly recently with the rose bowl... why not have HMTMKMKM, bad, and Spanish eyes on the ep???
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:34:46 PM
i want HMTMKMKM on the EP  8)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:35:25 PM
and what is the predicted setlist for the EP  ???
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 17, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
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From WAIE (not sure what that is):

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

I hope thats tongue in cheek from the interference guy.. besides north star this ep would SUCK
also WAIE= Wide Awake In Europe

I'm hoping the ep will have
Return of the Stingray (Live)
Glastonbury (Live)
North Star (Studio)
Mercy (Studio)
Bad (Live)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:41:08 PM
NOOO.

stingray *torinoooooooooooooooooooo*
glasto *torino
Mercy *munich*
EBW *zuirch 1*
HMTMKMKM *torinooooooo*

I DONT WANT STUDIO
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:42:49 PM
And, while i'm on a rant, i've mentioned before how songs like Mercy and Glastonbury (imo) don't show the real progress for u2 that their new albums should, don't fit in with tracks like EBW, and have already been heard by the public, and thus shouldn't fill precious track-list space on a new album...
therefore, why the hell don't they release Mercy, Glastonbury, and BFFTS on this new ep? Us u2 fans get to hear new stuff soon, and the next big u2 album is saved from featuring songs that mess with the continuity (like how NLOTH was messed up), and have already been heard before!!!!
... now isn't that just a win win situation??


COME ON U2! I KNOW YOU (or someone working for you) LOOKS AT THESE FORUMS! RELEASE MERCY AND THE OTHERS (bar EBW)NOW, APPEASE US AND SAVE SoA FROM SUCKING!!!!
/rant!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:43:52 PM
I HAVE A PLAN.  EVERYBODY on this forum need to send U2 a letter. they will notice all the letters from @U2 and listen  ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 06:46:19 PM
Honestly, I'm fine with an EP with even onelive  new song on it!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:46:27 PM
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From WAIE (not sure what that is):

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

I hope thats tongue in cheek from the interference guy.. besides north star this ep would SUCK
also WAIE= Wide Awake In Europe

I'm hoping the ep will have
Return of the Stingray (Live)
Glastonbury (Live)
North Star (Studio)
Mercy (Studio)
Bad (Live)

Ooooooh ok, i should have noticed that. Now i feel foolish  :P It was clearly just the interference guy giving his own thoughts. I thought that acronym stood for another u2 site  ::)
However, my sense of embarrassment is overwhelmed by my realisation that that lame-assed track list probably won't come to pass! My rant might actually be on to something!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Boom Cha! on October 17, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
Now I'm even more excited, Jamie!

Let's hope both the EP and album are true, or else I'll be angry at you for getting me excited.  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:50:14 PM
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I HAVE A PLAN.  EVERYBODY on this forum need to send U2 a letter. they will notice all the letters from @U2 and listen  ;D

YES! You, sir, are a genius! Imagine the power we could have as a combined force!
We could influence u2 like the sith emperor influenced darth vader...
... make them release albums every year
...make them play insanely varied track lists
... make them do a death metal album
... make bono not wear sunglasses...

THINK OF THE POWER!!!


i'm not going insane, i think we're actually on to something here, u2kennesaw  ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:50:49 PM
just call me......................................THE SPAMMER LEADER  8)

thats right.  im using my powers again
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:51:25 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
my original work
http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,13680.0.html  8)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:57:30 PM
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my original work
http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,13680.0.html  8)

Awesome!!!  :D
I have the upmost respect for you right now!
Now, if you can somehow organise us to get through to u2, you will be my favourite person in the world. Ever.






...apart from the Edge.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
well. im working on a plan to find the boys. AND SURROUND THEM  8)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 06:59:50 PM
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Now I'm even more excited, Jamie!

Let's hope both the EP and album are true, or else I'll be angry at you for getting me excited.  :D

Haha, hey, don't shoot the messenger!  ;D
Instead, team up with me, and we'll kidnap Paul McGuiness, and we'll tell u2 they can only have him back if they release SoA right now!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:00:56 PM
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well. im working on a plan to find the boys. AND SURROUND THEM  8)

(In Mr Burns' voice) Eeeeeexcellent...
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 17, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
so tomorrow can we expect announcements of the following:??
South Africa Shows
Wide Awake In Europe- EP
Songs of Ascent- Album

 :-X

I hope for at least two of the items on the list  :-X
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
the south africa should be announced at 9 am local time

PLEAZE BE ALBUM  :D  i gotta go guys  :'( 

but i will continue the plan  8)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 17, 2010, 07:04:37 PM
so 6 hours until africa announcement
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:04:59 PM
whats the south africa local time
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:05:07 PM
miami66: Is there a reason they'd be announced tomorrow? For all we know, couldn't it be in a week or two?

u2kennesaw: Byeeeee! I should be going too... it's 2 am over here, and i have lectures starting at 10 this morning... but i'm just too damn excited to sleep!  ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:05:51 PM
THEY NEED TO ANNOUNCE NASHVILLE  >:(
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:09:29 PM
OH. and call me ken  ;)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:10:42 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:14:08 PM
 ;D 6 hours til south africa announcement
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:17:17 PM
Ok, that's it, i'm gonna try and get some sleep, and hopefully i'll wake up to new album news!
Fingers crossed!  :P
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:18:30 PM
OH MY GOD ITS LIKE THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS!


(if christmas was constantly delayed... and could be again)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
My guess for Wide Awake in Europe;

1) Return of the Stingray Guitar (Live from Torino)
2) Glastonbury (Live from ?)
3) Beautiful Day (Live from ?)
4) Moment of Surrender (Live from Rome)

I definitely think Stingray is the most likely new song for inclusion because it's the least likely to be included on another project, ditto Glastonbury but less so because it'll probably be a single. Then I think we'll see a NLOTH song, my guess being either Go Crazy or MoS, plus a classic. Maybe Bad though, to fit with the "Wide Awake" theme. And I could see them opening with the first song of the leg and ending with the last song of the leg, as a mini tour momento. (Plus Stingray Torino was genuinely the best, IMO. If only for the "TOOOORIIIIIIIINOOOOOOOOOOO!"

I think EBW, Mercy and Boy Falls From The Sky being confirmed for Songs of Ascent reduces hugely their chances of inclusion. I also still think North Star will make it on.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
go to sleep jamie. SO SANTA WILL COME  :D

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Boom Cha! on October 17, 2010, 07:20:49 PM
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My guess for Wide Awake in Europe;

1) Return of the Stingray Guitar (Live from Torino)
2) Glastonbury (Live from ?)
3) Beautiful Day (Live from ?)
4) Moment of Surrender (Live from Rome)

I definitely think Stingray is the most likely new song for inclusion because it's the least likely to be included on another project, ditto Glastonbury but less so because it'll probably be a single. Then I think we'll see a NLOTH song, my guess being either Go Crazy or MoS, plus a classic. Maybe Bad though, to fit with the "Wide Awake" theme. And I could see them opening with the first song of the leg and ending with the last song of the leg, as a mini tour momento. (Plus Stingray Torino was genuinely the best, IMO. If only for the "TOOOORIIIIIIIINOOOOOOOOOOO!"

I think EBW, Mercy and Boy Falls From The Sky being confirmed for Songs of Ascent reduces hugely their chances of inclusion. I also still think North Star will make it on.

I'm hoping for a studio version of Glastonbury and/or Stingray on the EP.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:27:13 PM
so when can we expect the date to be announced  ???
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 07:31:31 PM
The "Wide Awake in Europe" makes me guess live for everything.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Boom Cha! on October 17, 2010, 07:33:37 PM
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The "Wide Awake in Europe" makes me guess live for everything.

Don't forget that Wide Awake In America had two studio tracks on it.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 07:36:20 PM
True but as noted elsewhere, it also had no American tracks on it! :P
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 17, 2010, 07:36:34 PM
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go to sleep jamie. SO SANTA WILL COME  :D



Argh you just made me too excited to go to sleep!  :D
Ok, i shall leave, but not before i predict the track list for WAIE:
At my most optimistic:
Stingray (studio)
Glastonbury (studio)
Mercy (studio)
North star (studio)
BFFTS (studio)
...then all the above, LIVE

At my most  realistic:
Stingray (live)
Glastonbury (live)
North star (live)
(no other newbies as McGuiness said they'd be on SoA)
Bad (live)
Vertigo/cobl/one (live)

At my most pessimistic, as mentioned before:
1) In A Little While (Live from Torino)
2) In A Little While (Live from Moscow)
3) In A Little While (Live from Rome)
4) In A Little While (Live from Paris)
However, all are taken and made into god-awful club remixes a la the b-sides to the NLOTH songles  :D

ok, definitely off to bed now. Goodnight everyone! Here's hoping i wake up to at least SOMETHING cool!  :)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 17, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
 ::) goodnight jamie

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 17, 2010, 07:44:37 PM
Monday *does* tend to be press release day for U2 but I expect nothing for a few days!  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: streetmission on October 17, 2010, 07:54:31 PM
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The "Wide Awake in Europe" makes me guess live for everything.

Don't forget that Wide Awake In America had two studio tracks on it.

I would guess that Bad will be on Wide Awake in Europe.  Otherwise, the title makes no sense. ???
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 17, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
Here is my Final Prediction for WAIE:


1. Return of the Stingray (Live)
2. Glastonbury (Live)
3. Mercy (Studio)
4. North Star (Full Band) [Studio]
5. Bad (Live from Rome w/AIWIY snippet)

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 17, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
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miami66: Is there a reason they'd be announced tomorrow? For all we know, couldn't it be in a week or two?

u2kennesaw: Byeeeee! I should be going too... it's 2 am over here, and i have lectures starting at 10 this morning... but i'm just too damn excited to sleep!  ;D

They seem to announce things in clumps (also More album news + tour dates= more attendees)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on October 17, 2010, 11:12:06 PM
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From WAIE (not sure what that is):

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

I hope thats tongue in cheek from the interference guy.. besides north star this ep would SUCK
also WAIE= Wide Awake In Europe

I'm hoping the ep will have
Return of the Stingray (Live)
Glastonbury (Live)
North Star (Studio)
Mercy (Studio)
Bad (Live)

It obviously was.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 18, 2010, 12:04:04 AM
Considering that only fans would by the EP, not really excited about the track list:

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

Like I need another live version of those tracks. 
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on October 18, 2010, 12:21:49 AM
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Considering that only fans would by the EP, not really excited about the track list:

1) Beautiful Day (live from Torino)
2) Pride (live from Moscow)
3) One (like from Moscow)
4) North Star (the same thing Bono and Edge played live, except recorded in a studio)

Like I need another live version of those tracks. 

It was just a predicted tracklist by an Intereference member. Why would you take that seriously?
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 18, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
>It was just a predicted tracklist by an Intereference member. Why would you take that seriously?

I hope you're right!   But why do I kinda believe it?  Because U2 has delighted in selling me multiple live versions many times before on singles, DVD's, fan only albums.  Many of these are different mixes of the song live song.  Guess my expectations have been lowered over the years.   
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on October 18, 2010, 12:44:23 AM
There was a prediction of 5 versions of In A Little While in the same thread. You can rest easy.  ;)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 18, 2010, 05:04:55 AM
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miami66: Is there a reason they'd be announced tomorrow? For all we know, couldn't it be in a week or two?

u2kennesaw: Byeeeee! I should be going too... it's 2 am over here, and i have lectures starting at 10 this morning... but i'm just too damn excited to sleep!  ;D

They seem to announce things in clumps (also More album news + tour dates= more attendees)


what has already been released in clumps  ???
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Bads316 on October 18, 2010, 05:45:56 AM
whack a live 'Breathe' on it to make up for Rose Bowl please. Ta
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 18, 2010, 07:08:35 AM
We have some more (Completely RIDICULOUS, IMO) news!

From u2tour via Google Translate;

"Now we are surprised something like this morning reported that Amazon lists recently launched a new publication entitled U2-Wide Awake in Europe (click here), on 22 to appear November. Now we have confirmation: it's 6 track EP of live recordings that have emerged this summer in Europe. A tracklist is not yet known to us. However, this EP will appear only in the USA and is available only in indie stores will serve. We are excited and tell you then!"


So there you go;

-All - live
-Probably vinyl-only
-Six tracks from the European tour
-USA only
-Only available in Indy shops

Can you say import?  ;D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: linasd on October 18, 2010, 07:10:03 AM
US only? Who's gonna buy me a copy? Any volunteers?
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Bads316 on October 18, 2010, 07:18:37 AM
Wow, well if I can't pay for it then I won't Mr McG
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 18, 2010, 08:22:08 AM
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We have some more (Completely RIDICULOUS, IMO) news!

From u2tour via Google Translate;

"Now we are surprised something like this morning reported that Amazon lists recently launched a new publication entitled U2-Wide Awake in Europe (click here), on 22 to appear November. Now we have confirmation: it's 6 track EP of live recordings that have emerged this summer in Europe. A tracklist is not yet known to us. However, this EP will appear only in the USA and is available only in indie stores will serve. We are excited and tell you then!"


So there you go;

-All - live
-Probably vinyl-only
-Six tracks from the European tour
-USA only
-Only available in Indy shops

Can you say import?  ;D

Is it just me, or is it hilariously ironic that a release called 'wide awake in EUROPE', filled with songs played in EUROPE, is only going to be available in america?
What the hell?
Oh well, as Bads316 said, if they don't want us to get it legally, that's up to them  :P

EDIT: BVS on interference points out this u2tour report has already got holes in it - it reported the EP would be usa-only, but its been discovered via the UK amazon site. If its wrong about that, maybe its wrong about everything being live (hopefully)?
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 18, 2010, 08:29:47 AM
Now that we know they're all gonna be live tracks, what are everyones predictions?
I imagine 3 or 4 will be big, well known songs, and 2 or 3 will be newbies - most likely Stingray and Glastonbury - both sound born to be played live, and i wouldn't be surprised is mercy and North star are being saved for the big album apparently coming out next year (ebw is a given, as it's being described as the next big single).

But if the EP is getting such a limited release, maybe there's nothing special on it... if it really is usa-only, and only available in indie shops (wtf, why would u2 become indie now of all times), i wouldnt be surprised if no new tracks are on it  :-[
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 18, 2010, 08:38:15 AM
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EDIT: BVS on interference points out this u2tour report has already got holes in it - it reported the EP would be usa-only, but its been discovered via the UK amazon site. If its wrong about that, maybe its wrong about everything being live (hopefully)?

Nope, note that the UK version specifically says [Import], so it actually does click.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 18, 2010, 08:41:05 AM
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EDIT: BVS on interference points out this u2tour report has already got holes in it - it reported the EP would be usa-only, but its been discovered via the UK amazon site. If its wrong about that, maybe its wrong about everything being live (hopefully)?

Nope, note that the UK version specifically says [Import], so it actually does click.

Oh. Grrr  >:(
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Starman on October 18, 2010, 09:06:40 AM
I didn't realize there was a thread for this already. I did check.

Anyways, this news is very exciting.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Farisfan (polished stones) on October 18, 2010, 09:23:29 AM
I just read the Irish Times article and I am not so sure this is new news.  Not sure how reliable the Times is (meaning I am not aware if they are reliable or not),  but they do not quote Paul McGuiness directly on any of the items they talk about.  I could be wrong (and I hope I am) but it sounds like the article is a rehash of a number of things that McGuiness has been saying in various places and times over the last few months.

Thoughts??

Don't get me wrong-- I sincerely hope the Times is right and that McGuiness did directly say that U2 will get an album out in early 2011.  And then I REALLY hope they do get an album out!!!  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: miami on October 18, 2010, 09:45:52 AM
i'm excited about a new album. i don't understand the excitement for this apparent live ep. firstly, we've seen and heard ALL of the songs rumoured to be on it. also, if it's true about one, pride and beautiful day, why are they doing it? those tunes are already on countless live dvd's. why would i want to buy an ep with those songs on it? more weird and bizarre decisions from u2 inc (that is if the rumours prove to be founded)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 18, 2010, 09:50:16 AM
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I just read the Irish Times article and I am not so sure this is new news.  Not sure how reliable the Times is (meaning I am not aware if they are reliable or not),  but they do not quote Paul McGuiness directly on any of the items they talk about.  I could be wrong (and I hope I am) but it sounds like the article is a rehash of a number of things that McGuiness has been saying in various places and times over the last few months.

Thoughts??

Don't get me wrong-- I sincerely hope the Times is right and that McGuiness did directly say that U2 will get an album out in early 2011.  And then I REALLY hope they do get an album out!!!  :D

Well, the quotes from Paul McGuiness are definitely new, i don't think its a collection of past statements - it's him directly saying he thinks early 2011 is the date. But i think what's more troubling is the fact SoA has been pushed back several times already. The last time SoA got a release date, it was when he said if he was 'wildly optimistic', he'd guess late 2010. Now he's saying 'if he was guessing, early 2011'. It sounds too similar to the vague, and ultimately untrue statements we've heard before.
This is why i said in the op that we should take this with a pinch of salt. I mean, "sooner than anyone thinks", and "i'd guess early 2011" sounds better than "if i had to be wildly optimistic". But it's not exactly a press statement, with a confirmed album name and track list, is it?  :P
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 18, 2010, 09:53:33 AM
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i'm excited about a new album. i don't understand the excitement for this apparent live ep. firstly, we've seen and heard ALL of the songs rumoured to be on it. also, if it's true about one, pride and beautiful day, why are they doing it? those tunes are already on countless live dvd's. why would i want to buy an ep with those songs on it? more weird and bizarre decisions from u2 inc (that is if the rumours prove to be founded)

I think hearing good quality live recordings of the new songs would be cool enough, and, even if unlikely, the possibility of getting studio versions of them is pretty awesome. Also, the one, pride, BD track list was someone joking on interference, i just didn't realise. As far as we know, it wont be anything like that  :)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: bw on October 18, 2010, 12:24:23 PM
McGuiness still trying to defend the sales of "NLOTH" is a bit embarrassing.

That album, I guarantee, did not sniff any of the internal sales projections - adjusted or unadjusted for the world econmy - that U2 Central predicted. McGuiness should just shut up and focus more on getting a quality album to the market instead.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 18, 2010, 01:09:05 PM
I very much doubt that at 5 million units, NLOTH fell much below projected sales- probably a bit, mind you, but not much.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 18, 2010, 01:31:35 PM
So I bet the Songs of Ascent that we're talking about now has a lot different track listing then what Bono was talking about a year and half ago.  Even though it probably was never finalized.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 18, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
but the EP will be on itunes RIGHT
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: streetmission on October 18, 2010, 03:41:03 PM
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but the EP will be on itunes RIGHT

I wouldn't count on it.  Apparently it's only on vinyl and only going to be sold in independent record stores in the US.  Although it would certainly help sales if it was released digitally.

But I would be shocked if the LP was only released on vinyl in independent record stores.! Then U2 would really be showing that they're looking out for the little guy.  With only a live EP being released to independent record stores it's just a token gesture, nothing more.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on October 18, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
I'd pretty much guarantee within a week or less you'll see the EP up online for pirating. 
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 18, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
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I'd pretty much guarantee within a week or less you'll see the EP up online for pirating. 

Well, if it's only released on vinyl (for anti-pirating reasons), then I guess I am left with no choice other than to actually steal the LP from an indie record shop. See what you're making me do, Mr. McGuiness? I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 18, 2010, 04:24:33 PM
so why wouldnt they put it on Itunes  ???

if it was only on vinyl less people would buy it
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: InThisHeartland on October 18, 2010, 04:27:07 PM
Now I HAVE to get my dad's record player working!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 18, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
 ::) :P LUCKY  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 18, 2010, 05:51:59 PM
my record player can record vinyl to cd :) :) :)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 18, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
on a pessemistic note, isn't this the same paper that misquoted Lillywhite?
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on October 18, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
and didnt they "GUESS" the new album would come out last christmas  :-\
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 18, 2010, 08:26:37 PM
>on a pessemistic note, isn't this the same paper that misquoted Lillywhite?

Actually I thistnk makes me believe the Songs of Ascent story even more.  I think they quoted him correctly but he had buyer's remorse.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: CherryYouDanceWithMe on October 18, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
my local radio station sends me facebook updates... I just got one that quoted a spin.com article that a new U2 album was being "finished up" for release before the next US leg of the tour. hmm, we'll see.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Starman on October 18, 2010, 08:39:29 PM
That would be awesome if the EP was only released on vinyl in indie stores. I could kinda see it happening.

That reminds me, I need to get a new record needle.

Vinyl>MP3
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: BalconyTV on October 19, 2010, 02:53:46 AM
ive thought this through.

the ep serves the purpose to introduce the us peeps to the few new songs the band have played prior to the next leg of the tour in the states. hence why its only being sold in the states.

and for that reasoning, i would suggest there will be no songs of ascent early next year.

why would the band confuse the audience by releasing and album and a ep...months apart from eachother?

any answers on this?

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: TheFlyLives on October 19, 2010, 02:57:53 AM
New album in early 2011?

I hate being proven to be full of s--t  ;D

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: homing_pidgeon on October 19, 2010, 05:23:43 AM
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i would suggest there will be no songs of ascent early next year.

no offence but i'm going to take paul mcguinness' word over yours.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: BalconyTV on October 19, 2010, 06:17:19 AM
what do you mean...last new years bono said there would be an album in the summer...then they said there would be an album by christmas...now they are saying there will be an album early next year. if they were going to really release an album...they would just announce it.

i think they are just building anticipation. its a trick of theirs. but i wouldnt have any faith in a album early next year, until they announce it.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: hallogallo on October 19, 2010, 07:27:34 AM
They should just cut the crap and release an album when it's ready.  All the hype is really annoying.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: homing_pidgeon on October 19, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
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what do you mean...last new years bono said there would be an album in the summer...then they said there would be an album by christmas...now they are saying there will be an album early next year. if they were going to really release an album...they would just announce it.

i think they are just building anticipation. its a trick of theirs. but i wouldnt have any faith in a album early next year, until they announce it.

paul mcguinness made fun of bono's previous statement and called it "highly unlikely".

he's the business manager for a reason. he doesn't go around making bogus statements. bono on the other hand . . .
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Dali on October 19, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
It seems like they have decided to take the well-publicised album title "Songs Of Ascent" and stick it to a different album than what they originally intended it to be. Does this mean they will again be butchering an artistic album concept in favour of a commercial album concept? Don't they remember how that did not work with "No Line On the Horizon"?

I'm looking forward to their next album and hope that their rising curve of form will continue going up and further recovering from the lowpoint that was HTDAAB.
But really, an album title like "Songs Of Ascent" must be released together in a package with a perfume titled "U2 - A Scent"

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 19, 2010, 11:38:17 AM
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It seems like they have decided to take the well-publicised album title "Songs Of Ascent" and stick it to a different album than what they originally intended it to be. Does this mean they will again be butchering an artistic album concept in favour of a commercial album concept? Don't they remember how that did not work with "No Line On the Horizon"?

There's absolutely no question in my mind that the answer is yes. They pulled NLOTH at the last minute to add Lillywhite's ditties (which ruined the mood completely), and once NLOTH failed to live up to U2's expectations, they started backpedaling on SOA. The version we'll get, if we ever get one, will not be the album they've been describing. It will be more radio-friendly.

Just think of what they did to Mercy as a metaphor.

PS - The scary thing is that if the next album is great, then NLOTH will be remembered as the stepping-stone to that greatness. But if the next album sounds like Behind or Bomb, then NLOTH will be remembered as merely a momentary flash of semi-daringness sandwiched between a bunch of domesticated mediocrity.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 19, 2010, 01:21:18 PM
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It seems like they have decided to take the well-publicised album title "Songs Of Ascent" and stick it to a different album than what they originally intended it to be. Does this mean they will again be butchering an artistic album concept in favour of a commercial album concept? Don't they remember how that did not work with "No Line On the Horizon"?

There's absolutely no question in my mind that the answer is yes. They pulled NLOTH at the last minute to add Lillywhite's ditties (which ruined the mood completely), and once NLOTH failed to live up to U2's expectations, they started backpedaling on SOA. The version we'll get, if we ever get one, will not be the album they've been describing. It will be more radio-friendly.

Just think of what they did to Mercy as a metaphor.

PS - The scary thing is that if the next album is great, then NLOTH will be remembered as the stepping-stone to that greatness. But if the next album sounds like Behind or Bomb, then NLOTH will be remembered as merely a momentary flash of semi-daringness sandwiched between a bunch of domesticated mediocrity.

I have to say, i don't think SoA is going to be corrupted into another ATYCLB or HTDAAB.
If NLOTH actually came out the way it was promised to (ultra experimental) and then failed, then i'd believe another 'Bomb' was coming. But the thing is, NLOTH failed commercially because it marketed itself through songs like GOYB and Crazy tonight, the former riding the success of vertigo, the latter being 'classic u2'. The fact that they failed must have shown u2 that they can't just pedal out HTDAAB  repeats if they actually want success. Sure, they might not think it a good idea to make a bunch of Moment of Surrenders for the next album and singles, but they sure as hell wont make any more vertigo or beautiful day rip offs.
They know they can't find success by ripping off HTDAAB.
They think they can't find success through eno-style songs anymore (eg magnificent).
I think that means we'll get something completely new.  :)
And looking at EBW, which is meant to be the 'next big single', i think that has the potential to be the next great u2 song, without having to be radio friendly or safe... it just kicks ass (and actually makes me happy GOYB failed)!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Boom Cha! on October 19, 2010, 01:39:15 PM
I think it's funny that we're judging an album before it's even released.  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 19, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
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If NLOTH actually came out the way it was promised to (ultra experimental) and then failed, then i'd believe another 'Bomb' was coming. But the thing is, NLOTH failed commercially because it marketed itself through songs like GOYB and Crazy tonight, the former riding the success of vertigo, the latter being 'classic u2'. The fact that they failed must have shown u2 that they can't just pedal out HTDAAB  repeats if they actually want success.

That is a great point, and I sincerely hope U2 understands this. But my fear is that they think the opposite, namely, that if NLOTH was more radio-friendly and less experimental, it would have done better.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: dangerous and honest on October 19, 2010, 02:14:00 PM
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If NLOTH actually came out the way it was promised to (ultra experimental) and then failed, then i'd believe another 'Bomb' was coming. But the thing is, NLOTH failed commercially because it marketed itself through songs like GOYB and Crazy tonight, the former riding the success of vertigo, the latter being 'classic u2'. The fact that they failed must have shown u2 that they can't just pedal out HTDAAB  repeats if they actually want success.

That is a great point, and I sincerely hope U2 understands this. But my fear is that they think the opposite, namely, that if NLOTH was more radio-friendly and less experimental, it would have done better.

Yes, I suspect this too^

I'm wondering if Soon will make the album as it could be a bit of a yardstick with which to judge their mindset.

I know it's already appeared on vinyl, but for me it was the most 'experimental' of the new songs - with perhaps 'Boy Falls' being the next. (though that would probably appear on a soundtrack album?)

Much of the other new stuff does not really do it for me and sounds fairly standard fare, though I guess we've only been hearing live renditions in development.


Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: miami on October 19, 2010, 02:19:16 PM
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If NLOTH actually came out the way it was promised to (ultra experimental) and then failed, then i'd believe another 'Bomb' was coming. But the thing is, NLOTH failed commercially because it marketed itself through songs like GOYB and Crazy tonight, the former riding the success of vertigo, the latter being 'classic u2'. The fact that they failed must have shown u2 that they can't just pedal out HTDAAB  repeats if they actually want success.

That is a great point, and I sincerely hope U2 understands this. But my fear is that they think the opposite, namely, that if NLOTH was more radio-friendly and less experimental, it would have done better.

Yes, I suspect this too^

I'm wondering if Soon will make the album as it could be a bit of a yardstick with which to judge their mindset.

I know it's already appeared on vinyl, but for me it was the most 'experimental' of the new songs - with perhaps 'Boy Falls' being the next. (though that would probably appear on a soundtrack album?)

Much of the other new stuff does not really do it for me and sounds fairly standard fare, though I guess we've only been hearing live renditions in development.




i agree with dangerous and honest and the exile on this. no line has always been peddled as a largely experimental album. i can foresee a post-pop type retreat on the cards, with u2 going back to more traditional sounds and colours. i hope i'm wrong, but judging by the new material, it's looking likelier by the day.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 19, 2010, 03:20:47 PM
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If NLOTH actually came out the way it was promised to (ultra experimental) and then failed, then i'd believe another 'Bomb' was coming. But the thing is, NLOTH failed commercially because it marketed itself through songs like GOYB and Crazy tonight, the former riding the success of vertigo, the latter being 'classic u2'. The fact that they failed must have shown u2 that they can't just pedal out HTDAAB  repeats if they actually want success.

That is a great point, and I sincerely hope U2 understands this. But my fear is that they think the opposite, namely, that if NLOTH was more radio-friendly and less experimental, it would have done better.

Yeah that's worth considering too - after all, Bono did recently blame MOS for NLOTHs failure, as opposed to GOYB (which i think was the real cause). It's worrying that he said something like that, and i think it's also troubling that the new songs Glastonbury, North Star, and Mercy all sound so 'classic u2', and kinda lame (imo), as it signals a 'safer' album approach.
It's strange that they would decide to go the 'safer route' after they gave NLOTH a 'safe song' transplant - the general public, who only bought the singles, or heard the radio, would think of GOYB and Crazy Tonight (hell even magnificent is classic u2 - echo guitar and "love" lyrics) when thinking of NLOTH. And these songs did poorly compared to the previous albums singles, and thus significantly effected NLOTHs sales. If they had released something that had a good tune, and showed genuine creativity and a new direction (e.g. NLOTH or MoS), i genuinely believe they would have had a lot more success. I'm surprised, after hearing North Star, Glastonbury, and Mercy, that they honestly think doing what they did with the last singles that failed (making them 'classic u2') will somehow this time bring them success. I thought NLOTH's failure would have shown them not to go the safe road.  :-\

Having said that, i think EBW is an exception to this, and shows NLOTH has not been completely abandoned, and least not in concept. I think they are still capable of releasing Mercy and Glastonbury as stand alone singles right now, to give us something to tide us over, before an EBW lead single next year before SoA. I'm holding out hope for that. It would mean more u2 in general, and the salvation of SoA - hell i don't even mind if it doesn't end up being 'meditative', as long as it doesn't have crap like North star, Glastonbury or (sorry, i love you mercy, but you're too old fashioned for a new album) Mercy.

Given that u2 have talked about considering different ways of releasing their new material, i think there is at least a possibility of the above option happening. I REALLY hope it doesn't all get jammed into one album. My proposed way means we all get more songs, and possibly a better SoA  :P
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 19, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
Jamie, where did Bono blame MOS for NLOTH's failure?
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: simba8 on October 19, 2010, 07:26:33 PM
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1018/1224281343133.html

Out early 2011
Provisionally named 'Songs of Ascent'
Includes various types of songs (as opposed to divided into 4 albums), including EBW, Mercy, and Boy Falls From the Sky

i wont hold my breath.
we thought this past spring...before the tour they would release something....and they didn't
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on October 19, 2010, 07:28:56 PM
I'm afraid i have no idea how i'd find the actual interview, but i read it here at @u2
... Bono said something along the lines of NLOTH being too deep and dark, and not 'accessible for kids' (or something), citing moment of surrender as an example. The thrust of his argument seemed to be that NLOTH was too experimental to be successful. I would have argued the opposite - that it wasn't experimental enough, with the least impressive and least creative tracks being used to represent the album on radio.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on October 19, 2010, 07:41:47 PM
Unless this is totally and completely in the bag already, this isnt happening next year at all.   They are scheduling too many dates next year to fine tune a release, especially one following the last release that was relatively unknown.    A live EP I would believe, and I think we all know what would be on it.   
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: THRILLHO on October 19, 2010, 08:01:59 PM
So why would BWFFTS be on SoA AND the Spidey OST? I mean it WOULD be on Spidey, right? It is in that musical and all
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: THRILLHO on October 19, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
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Unless this is totally and completely in the bag already, this isnt happening next year at all.   They are scheduling too many dates next year to fine tune a release, especially one following the last release that was relatively unknown.    A live EP I would believe, and I think we all know what would be on it.   

THIS!
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 19, 2010, 08:25:16 PM
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So why would BWFFTS be on SoA AND the Spidey OST? I mean it WOULD be on Spidey, right? It is in that musical and all
I assume that the musical will have the lead actors singing their parts and not U2.  Thus it would be nice to have a few of those songs recorded by U2.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: ryanm on October 19, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
I'm confused about why people seem to be bashing ATYCLB and HTDAAB.  I see the term "over-commercialized" whenever these two albums come up.  They were heavily commercialized because U2 happens to be the biggest band in the world. Why all the negativity? ATYCLB and HTDAAB were fantastic albums.  Beautiful Day and Vertigo were great songs (although I admit I would have liked to have seen Native Son stay as it was instead of being transformed into Vertigo).  NLOTH was more experimental, but I thought it was a great album as well.  I think the only U2 album that I have beef with is Pop because it sounds unpolished (and by the band's own admission, it is).

I'm super psyched about a new EP next month and the new album early next year.  I love most of the new stuff they've performed this summer in Europe (not too big on North Star or Glastonbury, but they're not bad).  I can't wait to hear the studio version of EBW with the full band.  BFFTS sounded awesome in Portugal.  I LOVE what they did with Mercy (way better than the 6+ minute version that was left off of HTDAAB).  And I think my favorite addition has been ROTSG (which I hope they keep as an intro track on the album much like Coldplay did with "Life in Technicolor" on Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends).  Basically, I'm of the opinion that U2 can pretty much do no wrong.  The future looks bright for U2 fans from where I'm sitting.  I'll be thrilled with whatever they put out because I know they'll have put their hearts and souls into it like they always have.

7 months and 16 days until I finally get to see them live (Seattle).
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 20, 2010, 12:02:31 AM
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I'm confused about why people seem to be bashing ATYCLB and HTDAAB.  I see the term "over-commercialized" whenever these two albums come up.  They were heavily commercialized because U2 happens to be the biggest band in the world. Why all the negativity? ATYCLB and HTDAAB were fantastic albums.  Beautiful Day and Vertigo were great songs (although I admit I would have liked to have seen Native Son stay as it was instead of being transformed into Vertigo).  NLOTH was more experimental, but I thought it was a great album as well.  I think the only U2 album that I have beef with is Pop because it sounds unpolished (and by the band's own admission, it is).

I'm super psyched about a new EP next month and the new album early next year.  I love most of the new stuff they've performed this summer in Europe (not too big on North Star or Glastonbury, but they're not bad).  I can't wait to hear the studio version of EBW with the full band.  BFFTS sounded awesome in Portugal.  I LOVE what they did with Mercy (way better than the 6+ minute version that was left off of HTDAAB).  And I think my favorite addition has been ROTSG (which I hope they keep as an intro track on the album much like Coldplay did with "Life in Technicolor" on Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends).  Basically, I'm of the opinion that U2 can pretty much do no wrong.  The future looks bright for U2 fans from where I'm sitting.  I'll be thrilled with whatever they put out because I know they'll have put their hearts and souls into it like they always have.

7 months and 16 days until I finally get to see them live (Seattle).

Welcome to the forum, Ryan.

You'll find that we all love U2, but some of us are more cranky than others. I can't speak for anyone else, but I wouldn't get cranky about U2 if I didn't value them so much, and if I didn't have so much invested in them over the years.

PS - I'll be at the Seattle show, too.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Bundang Dave on October 20, 2010, 07:22:25 AM
I think Exile put it best somewhere else (paraphrasing here):

You're not a real U2 fan unless you hate 80% of their work.

 :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Exile on October 20, 2010, 10:54:03 AM
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I think Exile put it best somewhere else (paraphrasing here):

You're not a real U2 fan unless you hate 80% of their work.

 :D

It's 87%, actually....
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Droo on October 20, 2010, 02:51:53 PM
North Star had better be on SoA.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: THRILLHO on October 20, 2010, 06:15:55 PM
oh, i only HATE 2/3 of HTDAAB, and maybe Boots/Comedy <obviously lol>

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Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: boom boom on October 21, 2010, 07:03:36 AM
Well, it looks like Songs of Ascent will never see the light of day according to what Bono said to Australian press.  I knew this would happen.  Probably got scared off by the lack of reception to NLOH.  What a shame.  Apparently they have got a collection of songs with Danger Mouse who I'm not familiar with.  Is this going to be a rock album?  And what is going to happen to Songs of Ascent? And it looks like Bono and Edge are still trying to convince Adam and Larry to make Spiderman a U2 project.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: twcrawford on October 21, 2010, 07:25:42 AM
I wouldn't lose hope quite yet for SOA. To get a good idea of who Danger Mouse is, and why Bono & Edge like him, go listen to Broken Bells, a colab with the Shin's front man. The band has this listed as something they are listening to. My initial thought was that DM would be doing the Club album, but that apparently is no the case according to some of the articles out there. He certainly wouldn't be producing the unlikely U2 Spidey album (which Larry is against). That leaves the Rock album and Songs of Ascent, and I think SOA is more likely in DM's wheelhouse.

This however does leave out the possibility of another album that they haven't even mentioned. But of all the albums mentioned, DM could very likely be the producer of SOA, IMHO.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 21, 2010, 08:50:15 AM
I love DM but I don't see him and a "real" U2 album working well together.  He's very down tempo and subtle, not things I associate much with U2. 
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: CherryYouDanceWithMe on October 21, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
It woulnt surprise me if DM was producing SOA. Lanois is busy with Black Dub (about to start touring) and Eno is supposedly busy with Coldplay and his new album. I also wonder if it will even end up being called Songs of Ascent.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Bads316 on October 21, 2010, 09:12:35 AM
I hope it's not called that, they'd be setting themselves up for plenty of 'Songs Of Ascent - And It Smells Like Sú$%' headlines, no matter how good it is.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 21, 2010, 09:15:52 AM
Songs of Ascent is starting to sound like U2's Let It Be.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: THRILLHO on October 21, 2010, 11:45:11 AM
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So why would BWFFTS be on SoA AND the Spidey OST? I mean it WOULD be on Spidey, right? It is in that musical and all
I assume that the musical will have the lead actors singing their parts and not U2.  Thus it would be nice to have a few of those songs recorded by U2.

LOL. Duh me. Well that would be cool to hear U2 do it on an album, and to hear them redo the Goldeneye theme too.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 21, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
I'd like it if they released a Band Spider Man and a cast Spiderman soundtracks :)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Terrasidius on October 21, 2010, 12:30:24 PM
awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Boom Cha! on October 21, 2010, 02:08:48 PM
I'm excited to hear that Danger Mouse is producing the next album! Eno and Lanois are great, but I think it's time for something new.

I was excited about this "club album", but knowing that Lady Gaga's producer is working on it makes me a little disappointed. 

Anyways, I would love an official announcement soon.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Tumbling Dice on October 21, 2010, 02:15:49 PM
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Songs of Ascent is starting to sound like U2's Let It Be.

Do you mean U2 are going to break up after this tour?


Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Promenade on October 21, 2010, 02:45:01 PM
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Songs of Ascent is starting to sound like U2's Let It Be.

Do you mean U2 are going to break up after this tour?



.  Better to burn out rather than fade away...
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 21, 2010, 02:48:38 PM
I actually meant that they seemed to be struggling to finish it or agree on what it is.  The Beatles broke up after Abbey Road, even though Let It Be came out later.  And who knows, maybe when U2 quits or dies in 30 years, Songs of Ascent will finally come out.  It's looking less and less likely it will come out anytime soon.    

Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Tumbling Dice on October 21, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
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I actually meant that they seemed to be struggling to finish it or agree on what it is.  The Beatles broke up after Abbey Road, even though Let It Be came out later.  And who knows, maybe when U2 quits or dies in 30 years, Songs of Ascent will finally come out.  It's looking less and less likely it will come out anytime soon.    

I agree it's highly unlikely that Songs of Ascent, whatever that is, will ever be released, however U2's next studio album will be released some time next year, as I predicted over a year ago. ;)


Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: boom boom on October 21, 2010, 03:56:11 PM
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I actually meant that they seemed to be struggling to finish it or agree on what it is.  The Beatles broke up after Abbey Road, even though Let It Be came out later.  And who knows, maybe when U2 quits or dies in 30 years, Songs of Ascent will finally come out.  It's looking less and less likely it will come out anytime soon.    

I agree it's highly unlikely that Songs of Ascent, whatever that is, will ever be released, however U2's next studio album will be released some time next year, as I predicted over a year ago. ;)



I wouldn't even be too sure of an album out next year either.  I can just see it, just as they are wrapping up sessions, their are going to second guess them selves yet again, bring in Steve Lillywhite to hear what they got.  Steve is going to make them second guess themselves.  Then they will let go of Danger Mouse's services saying difference of approach or something like that.(it happened to Chris Thomas, Rick Rubin, don't think it can't happen again).  The new album will be delayed another year and they will be content to finish the 360 tour with the standard setlists from 2010, which might be not so bad because by then they might re-consider releasing SOA.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Manos73 on October 21, 2010, 04:08:18 PM
I wonder how many records U2 has actually recorded over the years.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: The Unknown Caller on October 21, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
I love that U2 could literally release Songs of Ascent as it was always made, tomorrow, and people would STILL whine that it was clearly totally different.

Plus, of course, the minor detail that we have absolutely no idea how good or bad it would have been, but people have just decided it would have been amazing.  ::) Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear it, but this decision that it would have been the best album of all time and how DARE they decide to rework i or touch it at all is... ludicrous.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Tumbling Dice on October 21, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
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I wonder how many records U2 has actually recorded over the years.

12 studio albums and one in the can. ;)


Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: eddyjedi on October 21, 2010, 04:29:33 PM
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I wonder how many records U2 has actually recorded over the years.

12 studio albums and one in the can. ;)




I wonder how many songs inc demos they have written.
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 21, 2010, 05:29:38 PM
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I wonder how many records U2 has actually recorded over the years.

12 studio albums and one in the can. ;)




I wonder how many songs inc demos they have written.
cough cough go to the music section and look for my list of demos ;)
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Inishfree on October 21, 2010, 06:28:04 PM
Bono, dear.  I'm not getting any younger!  Any chance of a new album in my life time?   :D
Title: Re: Songs of Ascent out early next year
Post by: Miami66 on October 21, 2010, 08:00:46 PM
if for some reason they're afraid to release SOA why don't they release it as the Passengers Songs of Ascent?

don't have to do major promotion, most critics will take it like they did with the OS1 (an artistic piece rather than the Next Big U2 album) and they can release the Danger Mouse album as well.