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Title: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 08, 2010, 10:22:13 AM

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Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 08, 2010, 10:41:42 AM

I'll take the second... just because of McPhisto!  :)
(Also the screens, the stage, and the "theatrical aspect" improved quite a bit in that time lapse)
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 08, 2010, 10:45:32 AM
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I'll take the second... just because of McPhisto!   :)
(Also the screens, the stage, and the "theatrical aspect" improved quite a bit in that time lapse)

MacPhisto sang Desire & Ultraviolet on the European Zooropa tour.

I wasn't aware that the stage changed during the tour.


Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Bads316 on November 08, 2010, 10:48:38 AM
Zoomerang remains the most unique, and the only time we will hear those songs live. Those songs suited Mr Mac and the Zoo a little better I think.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 08, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
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MacPhisto sang Desire & Ultraviolet on the European Zooropa tour.

I wasn't aware that the stage changed during the tour.




I thought by "Original ZooTV" you meant the first legs, when it was still called ZooTV.
McPhisto wasn't there, and the stage was pretty bare, compared with Zooropa & Zoomerang.
(by the end of the tour, there were more screens, with much better resolution, and the stage was a lot bigger)

Now I understand you were talking about Zooropa, TD.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 08, 2010, 11:04:10 AM
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MacPhisto sang Desire & Ultraviolet on the European Zooropa tour.

I wasn't aware that the stage changed during the tour.




I thought by "Original ZooTV" you meant the first legs, when it was still called ZooTV.
McPhisto wasn't there, and the stage was pretty bare, compared with Zooropa & Zoomerang.
(by the end of the tour, there were more screens, with much better resolution, and the stage was a lot bigger)

Now I understand you were talking about Zooropa, TD.

Bad, Desire & Ultraviolet were performed on Zoo TV, Outside Broadcast and Zooropa.

The question relates to the songs, regardless of whether Mirror Ball Man or MacPhisto was singing them.

I still don't know how the Zoo TV stage set changed during the course of the tour. ???

Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 08, 2010, 11:30:55 AM

Fair enough... the question was quite clear. It was the "topic title" which confused me...

Anyway, if it's about "songs fitting the ZooTV setlist", I still prefer the second option.
Those songs were much more representative of the ZooTV spirit, than the first three.

If we're just talking about the music, or in other words "which songs are better", then it's option #1.
But then you're just measuring songs against each other, and the topic title is misleading, mate.

About the stage, what I meant is that if you watch any performance from the first leg,
after having seen the Sidney DVD, you'd probably think: "OMG, they've been robbed!".  :D
Like I said, it was pretty bare, for the first shows. By the end of the tour (and of course it has
a lot to do with going from arenas to stadiums) the stage was pretty much "filled" with stuff
(big screens, little screens, ramps, scaffolding, etc).
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on November 08, 2010, 01:08:23 PM
Bad, Desire, and Ultraviolet by a MILE.  Not even close
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: u2kennesaw,ga on November 08, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
Bad Desire and ultraviolet

just cause............YOUR F#%@%#@% BEAUTIFUL
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 08, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
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About the stage, what I meant is that if you watch any performance from the first leg,
after having seen the Sidney DVD, you'd probably think: "OMG, they've been robbed!".  :D
Like I said, it was pretty bare, for the first shows. By the end of the tour (and of course it has
a lot to do with going from arenas to stadiums) the stage was pretty much "filled" with stuff
(big screens, little screens, ramps, scaffolding, etc).


I've just watched the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast from Yankee Stadium and the Sydney DVD and I still can't see how the stage is any different. ???

Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: The Exile on November 08, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
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About the stage, what I meant is that if you watch any performance from the first leg,
after having seen the Sidney DVD, you'd probably think: "OMG, they've been robbed!".  :D
Like I said, it was pretty bare, for the first shows. By the end of the tour (and of course it has
a lot to do with going from arenas to stadiums) the stage was pretty much "filled" with stuff
(big screens, little screens, ramps, scaffolding, etc).


I've just watched the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast from Yankee Stadium and the Sydney DVD and I still can't see how the stage is any different. ???



Hey Dice, tell me more about the Yankee Stadium show. Is it a pro-shot bootleg you saw or what?
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 08, 2010, 03:04:12 PM
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About the stage, what I meant is that if you watch any performance from the first leg,
after having seen the Sidney DVD, you'd probably think: "OMG, they've been robbed!".  :D
Like I said, it was pretty bare, for the first shows. By the end of the tour (and of course it has
a lot to do with going from arenas to stadiums) the stage was pretty much "filled" with stuff
(big screens, little screens, ramps, scaffolding, etc).


I've just watched the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast from Yankee Stadium and the Sydney DVD and I still can't see how the stage is any different. ???



Hey Dice, tell me more about the Yankee Stadium show. Is it a pro-shot bootleg you saw or what?

It's pro-shot footage on youtube.


Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on November 08, 2010, 03:26:43 PM
I wish they would have abandoned songs other than Ultra Violet, Desire and Bad to make way for the Zooropa tracks.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Miami66 on November 08, 2010, 06:12:26 PM
I voted the latter tracks just because they never get played anymore  :-\
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: dcmarlow on November 08, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
i picked the second. mirrorball man didn't work as well as macphisto did.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: andym on November 08, 2010, 08:37:03 PM
either or really
but that version of ultraviolet was incredible.

I never saw it live but I saw the other three in new zooland and i would have love to have seen ultraviolet, zootv.

Baby baby baby  light myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeahh.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: An Cat Dubh on November 09, 2010, 12:41:11 PM
Although I love Dirty Day and Crashed Car, I went with the first choice.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: dangerous and honest on November 12, 2010, 04:00:04 PM
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About the stage, what I meant is that if you watch any performance from the first leg,
after having seen the Sidney DVD, you'd probably think: "OMG, they've been robbed!".  :D
Like I said, it was pretty bare, for the first shows. By the end of the tour (and of course it has
a lot to do with going from arenas to stadiums) the stage was pretty much "filled" with stuff
(big screens, little screens, ramps, scaffolding, etc).


I've just watched the Zoo TV Outside Broadcast from Yankee Stadium and the Sydney DVD and I still can't see how the stage is any different. ???



There wasn't any difference in scale for the outside concerts you mentioned TD. I guess the difference DrummerBoy meant was probably for the first 2 legs of the tour which were indoors and much scaled down (obviously, or it wouldn't have fitted in the arenas)
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: ciaz on November 15, 2010, 06:25:27 AM
What about Numb?

Or ISHFWILF?

Numb clearly only applies to post-zooropa shows. Not sure about ISHFWILF though, I know it is at earlier concerts but does it still show later on?
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: JSab on November 24, 2010, 03:17:42 AM
:P I made it a tie for the moment hahaha

I dunno, both choices are really hard, but I love watching Dirty Day and Lemon (Mr Macphisto FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and that other one that I forgot already haha
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: satellitedog01 on November 24, 2010, 03:49:04 AM
I voted ZooTV but only because those shows were exploding with energy compared to the Zoomerang shows. MacPhisto is a favourite character, but Mirrorball Man worked mirrorcles in the live setting too, and he was raunchy and obscene in a way Mac would never be. I'm glad there were both... Also note that Bono sang in character too, so some songs were a bit less powerful in MacPhisto gear, while MBM was a riproaring maniac.
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: JSab on November 24, 2010, 06:19:57 AM
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I voted ZooTV but only because those shows were exploding with energy compared to the Zoomerang shows. MacPhisto is a favourite character, but Mirrorball Man worked mirrorcles in the live setting too, and he was raunchy and obscene in a way Mac would never be. I'm glad there were both... Also note that Bono sang in character too, so some songs were a bit less powerful in MacPhisto gear, while MBM was a riproaring maniac.

Hahhaha made me laugh!. Fair point :) I've only based my findings on the dvd and its extras and things, but I still Macphisto for his britishness and snobbery haha. I did love MBM's saying "I have a vision! I HAVE a vision! Television!"
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: satellitedog01 on November 24, 2010, 06:49:54 AM
Yeah! That part was pure manic AWESOMENESS!
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: Drummer Boy on November 24, 2010, 07:35:01 AM
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I voted ZooTV but only because those shows were exploding with energy compared to the Zoomerang shows. MacPhisto is a favourite character, but Mirrorball Man worked mirrorcles in the live setting too, and he was raunchy and obscene in a way Mac would never be. I'm glad there were both... Also note that Bono sang in character too, so some songs were a bit less powerful in MacPhisto gear, while MBM was a riproaring maniac.

Great word!   :D

Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: satellitedog01 on November 24, 2010, 09:32:56 AM
Thanks, but it sounds better than it reads... :-/ :-)
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: EnduringChill on November 25, 2010, 03:54:56 PM
The first one, with Ultraviolet and Desire
I tied the votes! :D
Title: Re: Original Zoo TV vs Zoomerang
Post by: truthsfate on November 25, 2010, 10:21:22 PM
For me U2 showed some balls and really opened the door to what we would see and hear on the Popmart tour when they added DD/DGPFYCC/L. U2 is at their best when the envelope is being pushed both by song selection and theatrics.

Oh how I miss those days....

You got my vote!