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Title: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 10:38:47 AM
I was inexplicably correct in my out of left field predictions of Your Blue Room and Scarlet, so I'm going to toss out some here:

This leg will see the debut of Grace, full band Every Breaking Wave, Fez - Being Born, Drowning Man. Zooropa and Tryin To Throw Your Arms Around The World will also be played, with a rare occasion of Dirty Day. Your Blue Room will also make a return. Discotheque will be resurrected and alternate with Crazy Tonight until halfway through the leg when Crazy Tonight disappears and Discotheque becomes the regular set piece until the end of the tour.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 10:50:03 AM
They'll play 3 new songs from the forthcoming album and probably drop Magnificent.

A new and vastly improved full band version of Desire.

If U2 follow this forum, they would be well advised to play The Fly.


 
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on February 09, 2011, 10:50:16 AM
Can you also please predict that Mofo will appear?
Thanks in advance  ;D
I genuinely believe we'll see TTTYAATW, because Willie williams predicted it. Assuming EBW is on the album, a full band version is all but guaranteed. So i agree with you on those.
I'd guess we'd the see the basic shape of the setlist remain the same, but with 4-5 new album songs, and the dropping of the Crazy remix, and possibly magnificent. I'd imagine Boots and Moment of surrender will remain.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 10:52:01 AM
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Can you also please predict that Mofo will appear?
Thanks in advance  ;D

I can confirm that Bono will speak a couple of lines from it during the Crazy remix.


Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 10:53:09 AM
I don't think Mofo will come back but that did remind me to add my Discotheque prediction to the original post.

I would be shocked if Magnificent was dropped. Audiences respond to it and it's a classic U2 sound.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on February 09, 2011, 10:54:25 AM
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I don't think Mofo will come back but that did remind me to add my Discotheque prediction to the original post.

That's good enough for me!



... as long as they don't cut out the Boom Cha's  >:(  ;D
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 09, 2011, 11:03:55 AM
I would predict with 80% certainty that the number of NLOTH songs will decline, probably to two. Go Crazy remix possibly replaced by new song, otherwise Boots and Magnificent seem to me the main candidates for the chop.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 11:07:47 AM
I don't have ready statistics for EVERYTHING, but i would say with a fair degree of certainty that the Crazy remix will stay a permanent fixture for the rest of the tour.



Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on February 09, 2011, 11:17:01 AM
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I would predict with 80% certainty that the number of NLOTH songs will decline, probably to two. Go Crazy remix possibly replaced by new song, otherwise Boots and Magnificent seem to me the main candidates for the chop.

I would have thought that, given Boots and Magnificent were two of the singles, surely they'd be the ones to stay? If anything, i'd guess they'd replace Crazy and Moment of surrender with two better known songs (that includes new album songs, assuming the coming album is a'hit').
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 09, 2011, 11:21:19 AM
Crazy and MoS are much more important setpieces of the show though, and we know they consider MoS the best song they've written in a good while. They even dropped WOWY to have time to play it in Zurich II when they had to stop early.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on February 09, 2011, 11:32:04 AM
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Crazy and MoS are much more important setpieces of the show though, and we know they consider MoS the best song they've written in a good while. They even dropped WOWY to have time to play it in Zurich II when they had to stop early.

God point, although i'm a little confused over the bands opinion of MoS - Many times when they're playing it, Bono calls it a 'great gift of a song', but in an interview he called it "too dark and inaccessible, like a european art house movie" or something. It almost feels like a condensed version of their view on pop, where at first they bravely promoted it, but after popmart, pretty much shot it down.
Crazy tonight occupies a space as a dance track, but the newest album could very possibly have dance numbers on it (think of DM's work with Gorillaz), and i think it's possible that, if a dance track is a single, and the band really like it, that it could replace Crazy as the 'club' staple.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 12:13:41 PM
Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

Moment of Surrender is not single material for the very reasons Bono cites. However, the song is beloved by critics and from what I can tell has grown in fan esteem. It's like other non-singles that are loved by fans such as Gone and UTEOTW. I think it has the potential to be a permanent staple.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on February 09, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
I know it was a single, but the remix is very different, it wouldn't surprise me if the casual fan thought it was an entirely different song  :D
Moment of surrender is one of my favourite u2 songs, but i think it tragically doesn't work very well live. I think they could choose a better ending, but that's just me  :P
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.


Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.




No, there was an official video and it charted in several countries as an official single.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.




No, there was an official video and it charted in several countries as an official single.

Yeah I know and it was also on the NLOTH album, but they only recorded it for a TV commercial.


Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 03:26:48 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.




No, there was an official video and it charted in several countries as an official single.

Yeah I know and it was also on the NLOTH album, but they only recorded it for a TV commercial.




Oh, I see. You're insulting the song rather than asserting it wasn't a single. Got it. :P
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 09, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.




No, there was an official video and it charted in several countries as an official single.

Yeah I know and it was also on the NLOTH album, but they only recorded it for a TV commercial.




Oh, I see. You're insulting the song rather than asserting it wasn't a single. Got it. :P

Albeit not fantastically if it needs to be clarified that it was an insult! XD  :D
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
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Crazy Tonight was a single. Why does everyone forget that?

U2 only recorded this song for a television commercial.




No, there was an official video and it charted in several countries as an official single.

Yeah I know and it was also on the NLOTH album, but they only recorded it for a TV commercial.




Oh, I see. You're insulting the song rather than asserting it wasn't a single. Got it. :P

Well, I didn't exactly 'insult' the song, but you're quite free to regard recording a song for a TV commercial as being insulting. ;)


Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 09, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
I must say, I like the idea that U2 would go to the effort of writing and recording an extra song, not including lots of others for it, all for the nefarious purpose of a single ad.

I mean, *some* would say it would have been far easier to just use an existing song but no! They do not have evil minds like McGuinness
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 09, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
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I must say, I like the idea that U2 would go to the effort of writing and recording an extra song, not including lots of others for it, all for the nefarious purpose of a single ad.

I mean, *some* would say it would have been far easier to just use an existing song but no! They do not have evil minds like McGuinness

And they've gone even further than that; they recorded Vertigo for a single episode of CSI.  How cool is that?




Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 09, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
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I must say, I like the idea that U2 would go to the effort of writing and recording an extra song, not including lots of others for it, all for the nefarious purpose of a single ad.

I mean, *some* would say it would have been far easier to just use an existing song but no! They do not have evil minds like McGuinness

And they've gone even further than that; they recorded Vertigo for a single episode of CSI.  How cool is that?






I thought they recorded it for the iPod.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 09, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
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I was inexplicably correct in my out of left field predictions of Your Blue Room and Scarlet, so I'm going to toss out some here:

This leg will see the debut of Grace, full band Every Breaking Wave, Fez - Being Born, Drowning Man. Zooropa and Tryin To Throw Your Arms Around The World will also be played, with a rare occasion of Dirty Day. Your Blue Room will also make a return. Discotheque will be resurrected and alternate with Crazy Tonight until halfway through the leg when Crazy Tonight disappears and Discotheque becomes the regular set piece until the end of the tour.

I amended this to fit my prediction.  I think all the songs I didnt cross out might be played, although I seriously doubt Zooropa will be played
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 09, 2011, 05:51:43 PM
1. The 4 NLOTH songs stay
2. Every Breaking Wave and Mercy are regulars while North Star remains in a diminished capacity
3. 2-5 new songs are played
4. All I Want is You becomes a regular
5. Gone reappears and rotates with HMTMKMKM in the encore
6. Ultraviolet very well could be dropped
7. One of the new songs opens the show
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Grave on February 09, 2011, 05:55:19 PM
1. Stingray Guitar stays *I want to hear this song live SO badly*
2. Gone or Last Night on Earth replace Ultraviolet
3. IALW is dropped *Pretty Please*
4. Glastonbury Returns *SUPER pretty please*
5. 40 makes a few appearances
6. A few new songs are played *maybe 2-3* and replace songs like Walk On and Mysterious Ways
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on February 10, 2011, 04:32:56 AM
Full band Desire with Larry behind the drums on the main stage.

Please - say a prayer for Egypt.

Acrobat.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 10, 2011, 07:16:23 AM
1. Number of NLOTH songs further declines- probably Boots or Magnificent (Possibly both?)
2. Stingray stays as opener but leads into a new lead single
3. EBW, Mercy, Boy Falls, North Star all appear at least semi-regularly
4. Return of at least one live classic- The Fly / Bullet the Blue Sky
5. More regular appearance of Pride after skipping Europe leg
6. At least 2-3 unplayed songs replacing some NLOTH songs, Miss Sarajevo, IALW, UTEOTW

Possible:

7. Go Crazy remix is replaced by new similarly rave-influenced piece from new album

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while North Star remains in a diminished capacity

I'm curious about why you think 'diminished' when the evidence is that this is the song which the band feel got the best audience response?
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: MarsGirl on February 10, 2011, 07:18:53 AM
Am I the only American who loves the Crazy Remix?!!? I love it better than the original song and I love the original song.

I wouldnt mind if Discotheque came in....

I dont believe we can predict the new album chickens before the new album has hatched.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: StrongGirl on February 10, 2011, 07:34:31 AM
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Am I the only American who loves the Crazy Remix?!!? I love it better than the original song and I love the original song.

I wouldnt mind if Discotheque came in....

I dont believe we can predict the new album chickens before the new album has hatched.

Nope - I love it , MG. I love remixes because it shows the style of the person doing the remixing. The same song can be so different remixed by different people.  I happen to also love the Unknown Caller Snow Patrol remix as well.  ;D
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: MarsGirl on February 10, 2011, 07:42:46 AM
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Am I the only American who loves the Crazy Remix?!!? I love it better than the original song and I love the original song.

I wouldnt mind if Discotheque came in....

I dont believe we can predict the new album chickens before the new album has hatched.

Nope - I love it , MG. I love remixes because it shows the style of the person doing the remixing. The same song can be so different remixed by different people.  I happen to also love the Unknown Caller Snow Patrol remix as well.  ;D

Oh!! I havent heard that remix! I love Unknown Caller!

About Crazy Tonight Remix--This looks like the best, most energetic part of the concert. I would hate to have it dropped. I want to experience that at my shows this summer!! All the youtube footage is awesome... Larry comes out and bangs on that bongo thing (sorry that I dont know the real name of that instrument), Adam and Edge get all bouncy and move all over the place. That's FREAKING AWESOME.

I also love Stingray because it gives Bono the opportunity to jump wildly all over the place and shout stuff. To a Bonogirl, this is great. ;) I love those moments.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 10, 2011, 10:25:14 AM
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1. Number of NLOTH songs further declines- probably Boots or Magnificent (Possibly both?)
2. Stingray stays as opener but leads into a new lead single
3. EBW, Mercy, Boy Falls, North Star all appear at least semi-regularly
4. Return of at least one live classic- The Fly / Bullet the Blue Sky
5. More regular appearance of Pride after skipping Europe leg
6. At least 2-3 unplayed songs replacing some NLOTH songs, Miss Sarajevo, IALW, UTEOTW

Possible:

7. Go Crazy remix is replaced by new similarly rave-influenced piece from new album

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while North Star remains in a diminished capacity

I'm curious about why you think 'diminished' when the evidence is that this is the song which the band feel got the best audience response?

I think that if North Star is not on an official release leading in to North America, its setlist spot will be occupied with a newer song and North Star, in my opinion, will be played something like once a week.  So over 25 concerts, maybe 7 will have NS.  If it IS on an official release, then I could see it being played more often.  Leading into Mercy like in Europe maybe
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 10, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
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Egypt.

Thats the EXACT reason why Sunday Bloody Sunday will more than likely stay. 
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 10, 2011, 10:42:34 AM
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Egypt.

Thats the EXACT reason why Sunday Bloody Sunday will more than likely stay. 

I think Love & Peace Or Else would lyrically fit with the Egypt situation better than SBS.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 10, 2011, 11:16:28 AM
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Egypt.

Thats the EXACT reason why Sunday Bloody Sunday will more than likely stay. 

I think Love & Peace Or Else would lyrically fit with the Egypt situation better than SBS.

The surge in violence occurring in Egypt I think is exemplified in Sunday Bloody Sunday more than Love and Peace or Else.  I could see Love and Peace being better in a political sense concerning Mubarak though.  But I think U2 would much rather sing towards the protestors, which would be more suited for SBS....if all of that makes sense
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 10, 2011, 11:19:47 AM
I would not be surprised at all if LAPOE came back though, I would LOVE it.  Such a good song and a favorite of mine
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: MarsGirl on February 10, 2011, 11:45:51 AM
I love SBS and LPOE. So, I'd take either one in concert.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 10, 2011, 12:43:39 PM
Back to the situation in Egypt, I honestly believe that Please is the perfect song for it.

I wouldn't be surprised for it to appear again.

This is like the 20th time I asked for Please  :D
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: MarsGirl on February 10, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
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Back to the situation in Egypt, I honestly believe that Please is the perfect song for it.

I wouldn't be surprised for it to appear again.

This is like the 20th time I asked for Please  :D

Dr. Midnight: PLEASE GIVE ME PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 10, 2011, 01:25:42 PM
Please also would work well.

I'm just sick of SBS. The explicit reference to a PARTICULAR event makes it feel outdated and inapplicable to other situations in my mind, where L&PoE and Please are general enough to be applied to any event like this.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on February 10, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
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Egypt.

Thats the EXACT reason why Sunday Bloody Sunday will more than likely stay. 

I think Love & Peace Or Else would lyrically fit with the Egypt situation better than SBS.

The surge in violence occurring in Egypt I think is exemplified in Sunday Bloody Sunday more than Love and Peace or Else.  I could see Love and Peace being better in a political sense concerning Mubarak though.  But I think U2 would much rather sing towards the protestors, which would be more suited for SBS....if all of that makes sense

If Mubarak is still in power this summer, they will have to play Surrender.
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: Droo on February 10, 2011, 07:31:58 PM
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Egypt.

Thats the EXACT reason why Sunday Bloody Sunday will more than likely stay. 

I think Love & Peace Or Else would lyrically fit with the Egypt situation better than SBS.

The surge in violence occurring in Egypt I think is exemplified in Sunday Bloody Sunday more than Love and Peace or Else.  I could see Love and Peace being better in a political sense concerning Mubarak though.  But I think U2 would much rather sing towards the protestors, which would be more suited for SBS....if all of that makes sense

If Mubarak is still in power this summer, they will have to play Surrender.

As in "Moment of". ;)
Title: Re: My North American Leg Predictions
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on February 11, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
VDL for the win.

;)