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Title: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: hrsan on June 15, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
A huge production like 360 or ZooTv with very little wiggle room in the setlist or a scaled back tour with a different setlist every night, but risk songs like WTSHNN and other fan favorites not being in the set?
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 15, 2011, 01:01:28 PM
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A huge production like 360 or ZooTv with very little wiggle room in the setlist or a scaled back tour with a different setlist every night, but risk songs like WTSHNN and other fan favorites not being in the set?

Actually, if you read U2 Show it covers why there's little wiggle room in the set for variation in the setlists and inserting additional tunes and improvisations into the songs.

From the time of Elevation on, the band has used a complex grid system to choreograph and time lighting and everything else. Failure to adhere to the grid system and say sing songs past their allotted time throws the whole show off.

Daniel Lanois talks about it in the book. He felt the grid system was overly complex for Elevation and it stifled and muffled the live experience too much. No room to go out and explore and create during a show(not sure U2 is very good at live improvisations anyway but Lanois certainly is). He was invited to perform during one of the shows and had a talk with the band about it. He wanted them to get off the grid more when playing live.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: peggy2ten on June 15, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
I much prefer a scaled down tour.  I go see U2 for the music, not for the production and special effects.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 15, 2011, 01:19:52 PM
I think most people go for the music. The problem is I think the band like the technology and gadgets. It's not the fans but the band.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 15, 2011, 01:25:25 PM
I prefer an Elevation (indoor) type production, preferably in-the-round.  Basically, what U2 360 could have been if they had decided to play an arena tour.



Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on June 15, 2011, 01:54:09 PM
Well I prefer a huge production with varying setlists.

...

I'll never get it though.  :D
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 15, 2011, 02:01:18 PM
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I prefer an Elevation (indoor) type production, preferably in-the-round.  Basically, what U2 360 could have been if they had decided to play an arena tour.





You want them to copy mattressjedi who wanted them to copy Prince but didn't know he wanted them to?  ;D

Ive already stated my wishes:

A mix of theatres, arenas, and stadiums like The Stones' Licks tour. But all arena and stadium shows in the round. Theatres as a warm up. Day of announcement of the theatre shows. Maybe 2 months of shows in USA and Europe for theatres. Then worldwide for arenas/stadiums for in the round shows. Go everywhere. I mean it!

Singapore. Phillipines. So. Korea. Middle East. Africa. Belarus, Ukraine, etc.
If you haven't been there yet, GO!

A handful of cities with multi-night stands in arenas only. So some cities would have only one stadium show and multi arena nights.

Close with a 2 week stand at Royal Albert Hall.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 15, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
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I prefer an Elevation (indoor) type production, preferably in-the-round.  Basically, what U2 360 could have been if they had decided to play an arena tour.





You want them to copy mattressjedi who wanted them to copy Prince but didn't know he wanted them to?  ;D


No, I don't.


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 15, 2011, 04:06:58 PM
I suspect you will get your wish of at least arenas to start off.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Rayford27 on June 16, 2011, 08:04:27 PM
They should play a scaled-back show at my house, playing whatever songs I ask them to.  :)
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 16, 2011, 08:05:23 PM
A scaled back tour AFTER  a huge production.  A la Popmart and then Elevation
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: StrongGirl on June 16, 2011, 08:12:35 PM
Scaled back, please.  ;D
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: griffey244230 on June 17, 2011, 12:04:22 AM
I'd see them anytime, anywhere... but I like aspects of both
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 17, 2011, 12:13:40 AM
I just want to see them. And if I don't get Streets, I'd wonder if I'd gotten the wrong band!
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 17, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: The Exile on June 17, 2011, 12:30:39 AM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

Elitism alert! Elitism alert!

(Takes one to know one.)
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 17, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

I may be a crazy and selfish person, but where the **** do you get off questioning the fandom of people like me?

I witnessed Zoo TV, you know.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Boom Cha! on June 17, 2011, 11:18:44 AM
I'd like something scaled back. ZooTV, Popmart, and 360 are great, but it's time to age gracefully.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on June 17, 2011, 11:48:14 AM
What I really want is a kind of tour when they do a lot with a little.

Like Elevation, with the projectors that they used in arenas.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on June 17, 2011, 01:44:29 PM
Arenas - I hate stadium parking.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 17, 2011, 01:52:19 PM
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Arenas - I hate stadium parking.

You Americans and your cars.  ::)  Have you ever thought about taking the train?


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Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 17, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

I may be a crazy and selfish person, but where the **** do you get off questioning the fandom of people like me?

You're really going to let the fact of whether there is a roof on the building or not and the fact that there's more seats in the building determine whether you see your favorite (or one of your favorite) band play some of your favorite songs?  I can't wrap my head around that.  I just find that to be selfish.  Be glad you have an opportunity to see U2, don't refuse to see them because you don't like the damn building or because you like arena tours better.  So silly I can't even fathom it

And yes, that leads me to believe one is a fan of themselves and their preferences of what type of concert they want more than they are a fan of the band
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Miami66 on June 17, 2011, 05:17:18 PM
As long as I get to see them I don't care what they play in.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: JTBaby on June 17, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
Arenas or smaller.

Minimal production.

More Elevation-style, less spinal tap Claw type monstrosities

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: birdlover on June 18, 2011, 12:24:38 AM
I honestly don't see much difference in seeing them in arenas or stadiums if you're in seats. I'd rather they played stadiums as there are more seats and they cost less. If I can't afford a decent seat, the arena shows are meaningless to me. GA isn't for everyone.
Also, aside from shows with seats on the floor, seating is too far away from the stage to get a good look at the performer anyway. In stadiums, they have better screens.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: The Exile on June 18, 2011, 12:43:07 AM
At this point I'd give half my kingdom for an official tour DVD shot on a night when Bono's voice is working.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 18, 2011, 06:02:07 AM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

+1
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: JTBaby on June 18, 2011, 09:17:18 AM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

+1

checked the mirror, fandom intact.

checked memory banks, still remember my 50+ shows.

added up $$ spent. Crap, that's a new roof !

how exactly is not wanting to sit for hours in traffic both directions to see a sub par perfomance from half a mile away "selfish" ?

What you call "selfish" I call "good judgment"

I had a nice dinner with my family last night, or I could have undergone the torture that is a stadium show. I shouldn't have to pay for the privelege of having a bad, frustrating time.

Ditto tonight when i attend my son's baccalaureate honors presentation at his high school. I will then go home. He will go to U2 though as he was given a free ticket by his girlfriend's dad. He's only going because it will impact his chances negatively of getting lucky later if he doesn't.


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on June 18, 2011, 09:37:40 AM
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Arenas - I hate stadium parking.

You Americans and your cars.  ::)  Have you ever thought about taking the train?




I would like to take the train.  There is no train station in my town or within a 20 mile radius and my conservative Republican governor has no interest in expanding the rail system.

And I'm only an hour outside of Manhattan...
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 18, 2011, 04:53:00 PM
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Arenas - I hate stadium parking.

You Americans and your cars.  ::)  Have you ever thought about taking the train?




I would like to take the train.  There is no train station in my town or within a 20 mile radius and my conservative Republican governor has no interest in expanding the rail system.

And I'm only an hour outside of Manhattan...

Has there always been a Republican governor in your state?


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 18, 2011, 05:10:28 PM
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I just want to see them

In the end, thats all I really want too.  I think people who don't see them because they aren't playing in a certain type of venue are crazy, selfish, and need to look at their fandom in the mirror

I may be a crazy and selfish person, but where the **** do you get off questioning the fandom of people like me?

You're really going to let the fact of whether there is a roof on the building or not and the fact that there's more seats in the building determine whether you see your favorite (or one of your favorite) band play some of your favorite songs?  I can't wrap my head around that.  I just find that to be selfish.  Be glad you have an opportunity to see U2, don't refuse to see them because you don't like the damn building or because you like arena tours better.  So silly I can't even fathom it

And yes, that leads me to believe one is a fan of themselves and their preferences of what type of concert they want more than they are a fan of the band

I've seen concerts in theatres, arenas and stadiums and yes I do have my personal preferences.  It's got nothing whatsoever to do with whether I like an artist's music or not.  I suppose in choosing not to see U2 in a stadium it does help that I'm more a fan of their music than their live shows.

As to any 'selfishness' I may exhibit (which I don't understand how it applies to the exercise of free choice in whether I go and see a concert or not and indeed, pony up the 150 a ticket U2 were asking to see them in a stadium!), I would say that U2 are being 'selfish' by choosing to play an all stadium tour for 'money-grabbing' reasons while ignoring the wish of a large number of their fans to see them in an arena.  This leads me to believe that U2 are more interested in maximizing their profits than in satisfying the wants of their fans (and customers).



Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Zooropa Baby Pop on June 18, 2011, 05:24:54 PM
Arena tour but only if they would play a lot of new material and some of their rarities.

If they were going to play a couple of new songs with all the hits, with the occasional rarity thrown in, I'd rather it be all stadiums. Just makes more sense.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 18, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 18, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
Except U2, who'd have to learn more songs... Well, I hope this last leg and Glasto give them some fresh appetite for music.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Miami66 on June 18, 2011, 05:44:06 PM
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a few theatre shows thrown in.
Then everybody's happy.

except the people who didn't get tickets to the theatre shows.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 18, 2011, 05:54:32 PM
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a few theatre shows thrown in.
Then everybody's happy.

except the people who didn't get tickets to the theatre shows.

But doesn't virtually everybody want to see U2 in a stadium?

Anyway, I'm not an envious bloke, I'd be happy for those lucky enough to get in, and hopefullly U2 would then release an official DVD like the Stones 'Flicks' DVD including a show in each type of venue with a different kind of set-list for each show.


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Miami66 on June 18, 2011, 06:02:24 PM
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a few theatre shows thrown in.
Then everybody's happy.

except the people who didn't get tickets to the theatre shows.

But doesn't virtually everybody want to see U2 in a stadium?

Anyway, I'm not an envious bloke, I'd be happy for those lucky enough to get in, and hopefullly U2 would then release an official DVD like the Stones 'Flicks' DVD including a show in each type of venue with a different kind of set-list for each show.





I don't know, unlike some people here on the forum I don't intentionally try to speak for "everybody." As long as I can see them live they can play in a card board box.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on June 18, 2011, 08:42:41 PM
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Arenas - I hate stadium parking.

You Americans and your cars.  ::)  Have you ever thought about taking the train?




I would like to take the train.  There is no train station in my town or within a 20 mile radius and my conservative Republican governor has no interest in expanding the rail system.

And I'm only an hour outside of Manhattan...

Has there always been a Republican governor in your state?




No, but our current one killed a major project that could have been the beginning of an expansion.

The sad thing is that when my grandfather was a teenager there was a station in town where you could pick up a train and make your way into Manhattan.  So much for progress.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Starman on June 18, 2011, 09:43:06 PM
Arenas please. They did a big tour already (360), so it's time to go back to arenas. Especially when they play in the U.S. (all of those darned empty seats!  >:()

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More Elevation-style, less spinal tap Claw type monstrosities

Hey, this thread isn't about the Spider Man musical!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Zooropa Baby Pop on June 20, 2011, 04:45:58 PM
Something bigger than The Claw, play in it once and then go to an arena setting.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 20, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
I want a big production in a small venue(s). (but NOT Turn off the Dark)
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on June 20, 2011, 06:46:01 PM
Play in Alaska in front of the northern lights and broadcast it internationally.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 20, 2011, 10:03:14 PM
"I WILL NOT see U2 because I (don't) want...."

anything that follows the word "want" ("to see them in an arena" or "to see them in a stadium") results in a selfish sounding sentence.  You will not experience something as rare and as tremendous as seeing U2 live because YOU WANT it to be in a different venue, that screams selfishness to me.  You have been given an incredible opportunity but will not accept it because you want more.  Just be happy that you have the ability to see one of your favorite bands, if not you're favorite all together. 

But maybe U2 is playing a stadium show because they fell in love with the idea of playing in the round and the idea of The Claw, but no I guess it's just for money grabbing reasons right?  ;)  They switched from arenas to stadiums on Zoo TV, played stadiums on Popmart, the JT Tour, and Vertigo for money grabbing reasons too I guess
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: satellitedog01 on June 21, 2011, 02:32:18 AM
Lol... no not every opportunity is created equally incredible. I'm pretty glad I missed out on the 2009 Zagreb gig as my friends gave reports afterwards that Bono was tired and it was just an ok show (and these are Bono and Adam girls we're talking about).

U2 playing a stadium to be able to play in a round? You  could play in a round in a large enough pub, c'mon.

They play stadiums because they don't want to spend three years on the road continuously to sate audience demand in arenas.
And since stadiums are big enough for a spectacular stage and frankly it needs video screens for the far seats to see the band, they started building such.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 21, 2011, 01:13:29 PM
I want U2 to play only theaters from now on so they can be on the road continuously for the next 6 years.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Boom Cha! on June 21, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
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"I WILL NOT see U2 because I (don't) want...."

anything that follows the word "want" ("to see them in an arena" or "to see them in a stadium") results in a selfish sounding sentence.  You will not experience something as rare and as tremendous as seeing U2 live because YOU WANT it to be in a different venue, that screams selfishness to me.  You have been given an incredible opportunity but will not accept it because you want more.  Just be happy that you have the ability to see one of your favorite bands, if not you're favorite all together. 

How's that selfish? People have preferences and some people prefer not to see them play in a stadium. Maybe someone doesn't want to deal with the traffic, the amount of people, maybe they don't like the acoustics of a stadium, etc. Or, maybe, they don't want to have to travel to a stadium.

For instance; I wouldn't want to see U2 live if they happened to be playing in the middle of a landfill...that'd be a tad uncomfortable.

Don't be so presumptuous of people's character just because they choose not to see U2 in a setting that isn't comfortable to them.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 01:35:40 PM
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They switched from arenas to stadiums on Zoo TV, played stadiums on Popmart, the JT Tour, and Vertigo for money grabbing reasons too I guess


Yes.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: JTBaby on June 21, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
"You have been given an incredible opportunity"

ummm, no.

The only 'opportunity' we have been 'given' is the option of making  a business transaction.

I don't like Eggplant.

I have the 'opportunity' to eat Eggplant most times I'm in a restaurant, but I choose not to eat it.

Selfish ? No.

It's no different when someone says they don't want to see U2 in a certain setting.

"it needs video screens for the far seats to see the band,"

Yeah, nothing wrong with stadium shows.........pay hundreds of dollars to watch TV

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:09:22 PM
I personally would like to see U2 regardless of where they play. I honestly don't understand the "I hate stadiums so I will skip my favourite band when they play there and wait several more years for the next tour" attitude but that's just me.

Not every country has state of the art arenas like US (who were the only ones to get arenas on Vertigo tour).

And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".



Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 02:11:45 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.



Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:13:00 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.




This isn't really realistic.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 02:13:41 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?


Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.





It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: So Cruel on June 21, 2011, 02:15:29 PM
I think U2 should go back to the basics (like Joshua Tree tour, like Springsteen, like Pearl Jam). The music should be enough to carry them. Forget about the themes and the production. Does anybody really care about the 360 "space" theme?
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 02:20:56 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.

U2 have shown their willingness to shake up their set-lists and they played arenas and stadiums on Zoo TV and Vertigo as well as the JT tour.

If the Stones can do, then there's no reason why U2 can't, either.

The professional stage crew will do what they're paid to do.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 02:21:48 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
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I think U2 should go back to the basics (like Joshua Tree tour, like Springsteen, like Pearl Jam). The music should be enough to carry them. Forget about the themes and the production. Does anybody really care about the 360 "space" theme?

They used a production on Zoo TV, Popmart, 360 and stadiums shows on Vertigo.

Very little production during the 80's shows. The trends are not in your favour.

And they already did back to basics with Elevation.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:23:13 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.



Elevation was all arenas. Vertigo was all arenas in US.

Eventually, with 360, they were bound for another stadium run.
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 21, 2011, 02:26:18 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.



Elevation was all arenas. Vertigo was all arenas in US.

Eventually, with 360, they were bound for another stadium run.

Why were they bound for another stadium run for any other reason than money?

Elevation showed that U2 didn't mind playing a tour where ticket demand wasn't satisfied.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: JTBaby on June 21, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.

Doubt few of them are still with them ! That was 24 years ago.

Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
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It seems the most logical thing in the world to me for U2 to play a mixed tour of stadiums and arenas, with a few theatre shows thrown in.

Just like the Stones did on their 'Licks' tour, with different types of set-list for each type of venue.

Then everybody's happy.



This isn't really realistic.

Why not?




3 different setlists, and most importantly, 3 different stage setups.

U2 doesn't work that way. It's one setlist, and one setup all the way. Their stage crew complained when they mixed arenas and stadiums on the last JT leg.

U2 have shown their willingness to shake up their set-lists and they played arenas and stadiums on Zoo TV and Vertigo as well as the JT tour.

If the Stones can do, then there's no reason why U2 can't, either.

The professional stage crew will do what they're paid to do.



Zoo TV setlists were very rigid until Zooropa was released.

Vertigo got some shakeups towards the end, due to the two U218 singles, lack of Elevation tour in Australia (and thus increase in ATYCLB songs at the end of the tour) and the popularity of Rattle and Hum in Australia (a little more of that album played in that part of the world). And much like NLOTH now, HTDAAB was 2 years old as an album. Few U2 tours last that long.

Yes, but for the most time, the crew deals with one type of setup. It's either arenas or stadiums. I can't even begin to imagine the trouble of getting tickets if they really go for theathre sized shows...
Title: Re: Which would you prefer a huge production or a scaled back tour?
Post by: xy on June 21, 2011, 02:34:41 PM
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And I somehow doubt "everyone wants to see U2 in a stadium".


You don't say.


It's an interesting statement since most internet forum posters prefer arenas...

Shame U2 don't listen to them.



Elevation was all arenas. Vertigo was all arenas in US.

Eventually, with 360, they were bound for another stadium run.

Why were they bound for another stadium run for any other reason than money?

Elevation showed that U2 didn't mind playing a tour where ticket demand wasn't satisfied.



It depends on the kind of production Willie Williams and Mark Fisher develop, after the album begins to take the final shapes.

As far as I know, 360 is the one example where they had the stage idea before the album was truly focused.

There were semi-official plans for Australia and Europe (stadiums in 2002) during Elevation tour...and after two humble tours in the 00's, it was about time for something bigger with 360. Just like now it's surely time for something smaller in arenas. It's not all about the $$$.

edit: the one plus for stadiums for the band is can be potentially less tiring - 1 stadium can have 60 000 people in attendance while they'd have to play 3 arenas of 20 000 people.