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Title: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Fisher on November 18, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
Echo and the Bunnymen singer Ian McCulloch on Bono in the October edition of UK magazine The Word:
"I don't listen to much new stuff. Glasvegas are good - and I don't want to diss them, because they're mates - but they made such a weird change with their last album. I told James [Allan]: 'Whatever you do, don't disappear up your own ar*e.' But he's been going on about U2 and Bono. Now, Bono is the biggest d******* on the planet. And he's clearly out of his mind on drugs. If you print this and he wants to sue me then we'll have a blood test. Me and him will stay up for nights and they can give us one each."
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on November 18, 2011, 02:33:34 PM
Wow, man, this McCullough guy is so hip and edgy, ripping on Bono like that. No one's ever done that before... :s
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Monicalea on November 18, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
He's always ripping on Bono, how is this news?
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: StrongGirl on November 18, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
Yes, this  has been going on for years with Ian about Bono. Although I love the Bunnymen, I think Ian is the one "clearly out of his mind on drugs"  ;D!! I saw him perform last year and I stand by this!  8) ;)
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Velvet Dress on November 18, 2011, 04:37:26 PM
LOL.   I usually get annoyed when people diss Bono but McCullough sounds so rabidly bitter all the time that he's always good for a laugh.    ;D

My favourites:

Quote from: Ian McCullough
Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat.

Quote from: Ian McCullough
And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Droo on November 18, 2011, 07:34:34 PM
...who?
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Miami66 on November 18, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
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...who?

That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mdmomof7 on November 18, 2011, 08:50:27 PM
Yep, never heard of the Bunnymen. Is that like the boogeyman?

However, a colostomy bag for his mouth is hilarious! I might have to use it to describe some parents on my kiddos sports teams! lol!  :-X
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 18, 2011, 08:51:53 PM
Love is the drug.


Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Velvet Dress on November 18, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
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However, a colostomy bag for his mouth is hilarious! I might have to use it to describe some parents on my kiddos sports teams! lol!  :-X

It's awesome, isn't it!   I love the manic tone McCullough gets when he gets started on Bono.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Tumbling Dice on November 18, 2011, 09:03:51 PM
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However, a colostomy bag for his mouth is hilarious! I might have to use it to describe some parents on my kiddos sports teams! lol!  :-X

It's awesome, isn't it!   I love the manic tone McCullough gets when he gets started on Bono.

It's envy; pure and simple.

Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Inishfree on November 18, 2011, 09:59:20 PM


Quote from: Ian McCullough
And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth.

A very good friend of mine is dealing with colon cancer.  I pray she wins the fight.  Hope, Ian never has to wear a colostomy bag.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Aqua on November 18, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
I half don't even want to respond. This idiot deserves no attention at all. Next time he says something like this, let's not entertain it with a thread.

He makes baseless comments that reek of jealousy and childish hate.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Joe90usa on November 18, 2011, 11:28:33 PM
I love Echo and his furry friends and don't have a problem with Ian's comments as they are just his opinion.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mdmomof7 on November 19, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
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Quote from: Ian McCullough
And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth.

A very good friend of mine is dealing with colon cancer.  I pray she wins the fight.  Hope, Ian never has to wear a colostomy bag.
Yes, p**** of the conscience definitely. A dear friend has finally had to get one himself. He had surgeries years ago, in his early 20s, so young. A year ago, there was nothing more to be done. I understand and can see the need for sensitivity.

The Bunnymen dude is clearly, blatantly, obviously over the moon with jealousy. I still have no clue who he is!

Edit - Wow! I'm doing really swell tonight. I meant trick w/ a p as in a rose p trick. Oh my! I've been labeled xrated and offensive in one thread. Yikes!  :-X
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: singnomore on November 19, 2011, 12:43:52 AM
Mr McCulloch is known for his opinions so for me nothing new.

As an aside he left the stage early at a show in Glasgow a couple of months back.. couldn't sing..too drunk...
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Aqua on November 19, 2011, 01:37:21 AM
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I love Echo and his furry friends and don't have a problem with Ian's comments as they are just his opinion.
I don't mind opinions, but when they're baseless and low I get annoyed by them.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: soloyan on November 19, 2011, 02:15:45 AM
Reminds me of that good old joke :

"Remember U2 ? When I think they could have been as big as Echo & the Bunnymen..."
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: theocean on November 19, 2011, 06:28:09 PM
He sounds like he is the one on the drugs....
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Sydney_Mike on November 19, 2011, 08:24:12 PM
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Wow, man, this McCullough guy is so hip and edgy, ripping on Bono like that. No one's ever done that before... :s

My recollection of history is that McCulloigh was the original founding member of the Bono-haters club. He was into slagging off Bono way before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. Glad to see he hasn't mellowed with age.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 19, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
Since I first found out about The Bunnymen in the late 90's, I've seen them - or what's left of them- live three times(the last of which was on their Crocodiles/Heaven Up Here "tribute" tour). Each time I've seen them it is Mac who appears to be on a substance - and not in a good way. Mac's got three clear vices in the substance/drugs department(two are legal and one isn't), but hey, so do a lot of people in his profession. I think Ian chose these words probably because he knows there haven't been any well publicized drug incidents involving Bono, and he's poking fun at his "spotless" record. Perhaps, in his mind, he feels he can get to Bono like this.

As far as I know, Henry Rollins is really the only post punk peer whose barbs have gotten under Bono's skin.

I kindda get where Mac is coming from though. In many eyes, his band was the better one - for a while. To be honest if we were just taking '79-85 into account, then I'd definitely give the edge to the Bunnymen. Crocodiles and Heaven Up Here just sound like better, more complete albums than Boy and October - and this coming from someone who rates Boy very high. In their first four albums they explored different sounds and expanded their music vocabulary just as much as U2 - probably more so. They seemed to have more promise, more potential. But this isn't 1982 anymore. I really think Echo & The Bunnymen had the "it" factor much like U2, but they let it get away from them for various reasons(some of which are sad). They never had the work ethic(or managerial guidance) of U2 and it showed when America chose one to embrace. The Bunnymen would always be respected, but the rest was history. Everything else since then has been sour grapes.

This is nothing new though when it comes to Mac The Mouth. I have a copy of their book "Turquoise Days"(which I actually got guitarist Will Sergeant, who is much more friendly than Mac, to sign), and the style of the book is to essentially tell the band's story by using their quotes throughout the years. Needless to say a lot of Mac's quotes are barbs aimed right at his peers and, of course, Bono was always one of his favorite targets. Him detailing Bono and him meeting in 1982 for the first time back stage at Top Of The Pops is priceless. U2 were performing New Year's Day, and The Bunnymen stumbled through The Cutter, with an obviously drunk Mac pulling them down. The more things change, the more they stay the same. It seems like now you can't even read a Bunnymen article without the mention of U2. It's becoming a joke. Mac just keeps playing right into the journalists hands and I don't think he even realizes it.

btw has anyone ever noticed that both The Cutter and New Year's Day had snowbound videos? Hmmmmmmmmm not sure who gets the credit for that idea.

Still love The Bunnymen!
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 19, 2011, 09:33:05 PM
P.S. i just wanna add, I would LOVE to see both Bono and Mac together taking a "blood test" similar to John Carpenter's version of The Thing(which is from also 1982, ironically).

They could revisit one of the cold shooting locations from either The Cutter or New Year's Day video. They'd be like tied down by Larry to a sofa like in the film with their blood samples in petri dishes. Instead of Kurt Russell, you'd have The Edge standing there, a safe distance away, with the flamethrower strapped on(since he's always on fire), and wearing Kurt's sombrero. He'd be heating up the copper wire, and an uncertain Mac would look at him and say "Let's do this". Bono would have a slight grin on his face. Everyone holds their breath as Edge puts the hot wire in Bono's petri dish and it would EXPLODE with the reaction of Bono's blood to the wire. It is then when Bono transforms into what Mac knew he was all along: The Thing. Larry would yell "Torch Him!", and then all Bono's comments about Edge being on fire will finally come back to burn him! But not before giving Mac The Mouth a huge hug and to make sure he is taken out too.

It could all be filmed by Anton Corbijn.

Is this what Mac had in mind?
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on November 19, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
What was Bono's reaction to Rollins?
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 19, 2011, 09:52:34 PM
You know I wish I could help you out with more info, but I basically just read a quick blurb on it maybe 7 or 8 years ago. If I remember right, it was one of Rollins(several) comments questioning Bono's sincerity in regards to his humanitarian work. Something to that effect. All I can remember is it said Bono was left "fuming" over Rollins comments. That's all I really remember specifically. For all I know I might have even read it here or at Interference. Does anyone else remember this?

Anyway I enjoy many of U2's early punk/post punk peers, and I have come across many unflattering comments about Bono/U2 from some of those camps and this was honestly the first time I'd seen something where it alluded to Bono actually getting mad. But thankfully U2 didn't get where they did by having thin skin, you know?
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Joe90usa on November 19, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
The concept of punk was really built around doing what you want to do and not caring about what others thought about it. U2 left the punk lifestyle behind a long time ago, so I can see why those who remained in the lifestyle are not impressed with where U2 have gone because in their minds, they are sell outs. Every now and again, Bono still likes to point out how they are in touch with their punk roots. If I was a punk, I have to admit that would turn my stomach as they are all about public perception.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Aqua on November 19, 2011, 11:35:33 PM
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The concept of punk was really built around doing what you want to do and not caring about what others thought about it. U2 left the punk lifestyle behind a long time ago, so I can see why those who remained in the lifestyle are not impressed with where U2 have gone because in their minds, they are sell outs. Every now and again, Bono still likes to point out how they are in touch with their punk roots. If I was a punk, I have to admit that would turn my stomach as they are all about public perception.
Agreed. But I also think U2 are above that now. I don't agree with the perception that somehow that punk ideology is somehow both more noble and superior to wanting to be heard, and wanting to be big. I think U2 do what they want while trying to touch as many people as they can, and yeah, getting lots of money. Of course that means making pretty big comprimises. But I find that a lot less small minded and self indulgent than that Punk creed.
Title: Re: Ian McCullough: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Joe90usa on November 20, 2011, 08:14:02 PM
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The concept of punk was really built around doing what you want to do and not caring about what others thought about it. U2 left the punk lifestyle behind a long time ago, so I can see why those who remained in the lifestyle are not impressed with where U2 have gone because in their minds, they are sell outs. Every now and again, Bono still likes to point out how they are in touch with their punk roots. If I was a punk, I have to admit that would turn my stomach as they are all about public perception.
Agreed. But I also think U2 are above that now. I don't agree with the perception that somehow that punk ideology is somehow both more noble and superior to wanting to be heard, and wanting to be big. I think U2 do what they want while trying to touch as many people as they can, and yeah, getting lots of money. Of course that means making pretty big comprimises. But I find that a lot less small minded and self indulgent than that Punk creed.

I never claimed the ideology of punk is superior to any other. I claimed that when Bono, as he does every so often (usually after recording a new album but prior to the release of it), says that the band has remained true to their punk roots, it's a load of garbage and to those who actually did stay true to that agenda, it would upset them to hear that because it totally miscasts what punk was all about. It would be more honest for Bono to say that they came out of the punk environment but have since rethought things and they are no longer punk in any way. But because he likes to be all things to all people, he'll continue to look for any connection possible with the public to maintain interest in the band. Granted, that's his job, but it does come across like a sleazy salesman every so often.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Jara on November 21, 2011, 10:07:05 AM
I remember that t**t mcculloch slaggin off Bono back in the mid 80s. hes just bitter, thats all. One of them people of a certain age...who are so uncntent in their life...they have certain things the fix their attention on to hate.

ironically...wanst there an article in the past two or so years, where Mcculloch was suggesting his views on bono had mellowed?
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: StrongGirl on November 21, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
It's just part of Ian's charm  ;D ;D  It's just Ian. That's all . Bono laughs at it. It's fine. I love Ian and Bono . ;D
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 21, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
Smee, I think Mac has gone back and forth several times now. He is clearly a moody person and what he says to the press is a reflection of this. Sometimes he seems to be enjoying himself and other times he is on the attack. At various times in the past he made some concessions in regards to U2. There was an article in SPIN, I believe, a few years ago where he paid U2/Bono some backhanded complements - from Ian, that's as close to flattery as U2 is going to get - which seemed to suggest he had finally gotten over his bitterness. He admitted there were some good songs(maybe this was the article you saw?). But then he came back a year later calling them nothing but "spud peelers". I read an interview with him dated back to around 1990 where he(somewhat) praised The Joshua Tree. This has happened before and it's probably going to continue as long as journalists keep interviewing Mac.

It's too bad because, as far as I know, U2 have only said good things about Echo & The Bunnymen. If I had to guess, there are probably several Bunnymen fans in the U2 camp.

Like I mentioned earlier, you can hardly find any recent Bunnymen/Mac article and or interview without the mention of U2. In a way it's his own fault. His comments(probably going as far back as 30 years at this point - October in particular would have lent a lot of ammunition to U2's more cynical peers) have tied him to U2 - at least from his end. Looking at some of his best lyrical work you can tell Mac is a deep thinker who is as reflective as anyone, but he's really only fooling himself in this situation. It was one thing when he was young, and actually U2's very real competition, but now it's just embarrassing. He's clever, no doubt, but this joke is on him.

This is the first time I remember him actually CHALLENGING Bono to something. I would very much like to see this "blood test", as Mac puts it. Hell, I would like to see them both in the same room. I could see Bono saying "Where's Mac? I want to buy him a drink!". Mac would be in the corner hiding like someone who is afraid of their Ex.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: m2 on November 21, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
Quote
says that the band has remained true to their punk roots, it's a load of garbage

Umm, I tend to recall Bono's quotes as being "We came out of punk" before he goes on to say that U2 wanted something different/more. He's never hidden the fact that U2 wanted to be huge from the day they were formed. He was talking that way even after the Dandelion Market gigs:

http://www.atu2blog.com/bono-1979-we-dont-want-to-be-a-cult/22249/

If Bono's talking about staying true to his punk roots, he's probably referring to the fact that he still can't play guitar. ;-)
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 21, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
The Dandelion Market gigs are the ones which had Bono wearing the checkered pants and sleeveless mesh shirt, right? Gotta love some of U2's early fashion sense, or lack there of ;D
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Post by: JamietheEdgefan on November 21, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
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P.S. i just wanna add, I would LOVE to see both Bono and Mac together taking a "blood test" similar to John Carpenter's version of The Thing(which is from also 1982, ironically).

They could revisit one of the cold shooting locations from either The Cutter or New Year's Day video. They'd be like tied down by Larry to a sofa like in the film with their blood samples in petri dishes. Instead of Kurt Russell, you'd have The Edge standing there, a safe distance away, with the flamethrower strapped on(since he's always on fire), and wearing Kurt's sombrero. He'd be heating up the copper wire, and an uncertain Mac would look at him and say "Let's do this". Bono would have a slight grin on his face. Everyone holds their breath as Edge puts the hot wire in Bono's petri dish and it would EXPLODE with the reaction of Bono's blood to the wire. It is then when Bono transforms into what Mac knew he was all along: The Thing. Larry would yell "Torch Him!", and then all Bono's comments about Edge being on fire will finally come back to burn him! But not before giving Mac The Mouth a huge hug and to make sure he is taken out too.

It could all be filmed by Anton Corbijn.

Is this what Mac had in mind?

One of the most awesome things i've ever read on this forum.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on November 21, 2011, 05:45:32 PM
Hey thanks Jamie, much appreciated! 8) After I posted it I immediately wondered if anyone would get the reference, but if just one person enjoyed it or got what I was on about then it's worth it
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: SDD3000 on November 22, 2011, 12:08:58 PM
Two people got the quote!! Im a huge John Carpenter fan and it was indeed a good post!! I would love to hear Bonos comments bout Rollins though.. he clearly HATES Bono. Didnt Bono once sit in the audeince at one of his stand ups? Is that rumour true?
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Post by: soloyan on November 22, 2011, 03:13:22 PM
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Hey thanks Jamie, much appreciated! 8) After I posted it I immediately wondered if anyone would get the reference, but if just one person enjoyed it or got what I was on about then it's worth it

Great post, man. I love that movie. The prequel is no good, though.

Back on the punk thing, I believe the band always told they were coming from the punk movement, inspired by some of its aspects (and artists). But I don't think they've ever described themselves as punks ?
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: j2736 (i'm not a boy ! ) on November 23, 2011, 05:19:39 AM
I like The Killing Moon very much, but i think it's the only song that is remembered of Ian's band. So, everything he says against Bono is really out of pure envy. Where is he now?his band? U2 and Bono are still very much alive and kicking. I feel really sorry for Ian. He'll die envying Bono and pitying himself. He's like a rabid dog already.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: singnomore on November 23, 2011, 06:30:34 AM
He's currently recording a solo album so lets see what thats like  :)
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: INCA on November 23, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
Spare the Cutter. Haha Ian, it's okay. We still like you.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: ayajedi on November 25, 2011, 08:45:14 PM
He has been having a go at Bono for years and years now. It got old long ago, he sounds so bitter
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Monicalea on November 25, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
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He has been having a go at Bono for years and years now. It got old long ago, he sounds so bitter

It does make for a good dog and pony show though. Fanboys on both sides get to go ape crap on the other side thus keeping both of them in the public eye without actually doing much damage to either side.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mattressjedi on November 30, 2011, 11:14:21 AM
Rollins is really the only one who I pay attention to when he criticizes Bono because sometimes I agree with it.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: tj1968 on December 02, 2011, 06:24:07 AM
U2 and Echo and The Bunnymen were once contemporaries in their early days. U2 found global fame and fortune, The Bunnymen didn't, simple case of sour grapes.
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Post by: mdmomof7 on December 02, 2011, 09:05:04 AM
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U2 and Echo and The Bunnymen were once contemporaries in their early days. U2 found global fame and fortune, The Bunnymen didn't, simple case of sour grapes.

Well, maybe he should enjoy some wine instead of vinegar!
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Post by: Monicalea on December 06, 2011, 12:13:45 PM
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U2 and Echo and The Bunnymen were once contemporaries in their early days. U2 found global fame and fortune, The Bunnymen didn't, simple case of sour grapes.

Well, maybe he should enjoy some wine instead of vinegar!

Oh, I think he has plenty of whine. :D

Ha! I crack myself up!
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mdmomof7 on December 06, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
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U2 and Echo and The Bunnymen were once contemporaries in their early days. U2 found global fame and fortune, The Bunnymen didn't, simple case of sour grapes.

Well, maybe he should enjoy some wine instead of vinegar!

Oh, I think he has plenty of whine. :D

Ha! I crack myself up!

Hee hee!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: DGordon1 on December 07, 2011, 05:54:31 AM
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I love Echo and his furry friends and don't have a problem with Ian's comments as they are just his opinion.

There's a difference between stating opinion and baselessly labelling someone as a drug addict. No matter who you are, if anybody acts like that then they are, unquestionably, a douche.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mdmomof7 on December 07, 2011, 07:19:28 AM
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I love Echo and his furry friends and don't have a problem with Ian's comments as they are just his opinion.

There's a difference between stating opinion and baselessly labelling someone as a drug addict. No matter who you are, if anybody acts like that then they are, unquestionably, a douche.
+1 Especially if one, and I'm sure both men have, had friends suffer at the hand of such, if not themselves!
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on December 08, 2011, 01:51:29 PM
I'm hesitant to post this link because, upon looking at it again, I kind doubt it's legitimacy in terms of Bono's reaction - I don't doubt the quotes attributed to Rollins(I know he's said these things). Anyway some posters asked about the reaction from Bono when I mentioned he was hurt by some comments made by Rollins. I remembered "fuming" was the word used to describe Bono's reaction so I just did a Google search of "Henry Rollins Bono fuming" and this came up:http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Rock+and+Rollins+as+punk+nut+Henry+takes+a+swipe+at+Bono%3B+U2+SINGER...-a098522120 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Rock+and+Rollins+as+punk+nut+Henry+takes+a+swipe+at+Bono%3B+U2+SINGER...-a098522120)

Anyway, make of it what you will. Looking at it a few years down the road I can tell this piece more speculative than anything else. No one is quoted on Bono's behalf so there's no evidence he actually got mad. To me it just looks like a collection of nasty things Rollins has said about Bono/U2 throughout the(then)recent years stuffed into one article. In fact, it looks like an ego boosting piece for Rollins. I kind of doubt all the quotes are even from the same interview. Like I mentioned earlier, this was the only time I heard about Bono being upset with something one of his peers said, but now you have to wonder if this was true or not. Hardly matters now I guess, but some people seemed curious.

To my knowledge Rollins hasn't said anything about Bono for a few years now. I guess he's moved his crosshairs onto other things, but with McCulloch picking up all the slack lately, maybe it's time he starts the Bono bashing again ::)
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Velvet Dress on December 09, 2011, 08:28:54 AM
McCulloch is funny.   He's so exxageratedly manic that his ribbing of Bono sounds almost affectionate sometimes (eg, his digs at Bono's weight), and I respect that he doesn't seem to take himself 100% seriously.

Rollins is not funny.   He sounds like a jerk with pretensions of objectivity for his venomous spleen who likes to give vent to the discomfort resulting from his recognition that, whatever his flaws (which I acknowledge can be irksome), Bono's a much finer human being than he is.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: jick on December 12, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
Being in the music industry, I wouldn't be surprised if McCollough has insider information about Bono's drug use.  While there has been no public announcements or press conferences, I think it is safe to speculate that Bono is still taking prescription drugs in relation to his spine injury.

And as has been known by all of us, Bono has always been out of his mind or else he would never be able to write as beautifully as he does. All genuises are out of their mind.

So I do believe Ian McCollough, you just need to get the context in which he said those things.

Cheers,

J

Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: mdmomof7 on December 12, 2011, 09:48:47 PM
Hate to say it, but at the Paris 1987 JT concert Bono's eyes look a little too glossy to me and he prances around a bit too languidly at times. In fact, I wondered how he could give such an awesome vocal performance, which he definitely did.

Jick, you really think he's still on the painkillers from the surgery? Yikes!
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Velvet Dress on December 13, 2011, 07:46:42 AM
If the injury was as serious as it apparently was, he probably still needs pain meds, especially with all the stress his spine took by him going back on tour so soon (relatively) after the surgery.

It has to be said, with all affectionate and fond respect for the man, that his weight probably isn't doing his spine any favours either.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Manos73 on December 13, 2011, 08:31:02 AM
Is it possible that Bono is on drugs?  Could that explain Spider-Man, American Idol, Oprah and Glee?
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: striker on December 14, 2011, 07:33:36 AM
I think they've done a good job in hiding that aspect of their lives. Most bands wind up on the news & tabloids because they just can't control themselves with the substances, but U2 has pretty much dodged that claim throughout their career. I'm thinking it's because of their humanitarian work, and their spiritual beliefs masking that other part of their lives.
I remember reading a quote from Bono where he said he didn't "trifle with hallucinogens." Why not? Has he ever done it? Personally I think he has, and that isn't his favorite poison. Adam further stated that you "wouldn't want to be on the wrong drugs in front of all those people because it's a full on assault," or whatever. Quotes like those make me realize that they've been on various stuff while performing, and if you look at their early 90s work, you'll see that.
You think they only drank alcohol and smoked weed? I think people need to come to terms that their favorite musicians are all on something. In that line of work, it's most likely cocaine, since that gives them a boost of energy and that extreme sense of self confidence. The theatrics of Mr. Macphisto/Fly/etc show that.

I think they still do it, just not as much due to their age and the fact that everyone has a cell phone and a camera. It's harder to get away with that stuff.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: maymay on December 14, 2011, 08:51:11 AM
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I think they've done a good job in hiding that aspect of their lives. Most bands wind up on the news & tabloids because they just can't control themselves with the substances, but U2 has pretty much dodged that claim throughout their career. I'm thinking it's because of their humanitarian work, and their spiritual beliefs masking that other part of their lives.
I remember reading a quote from Bono where he said he didn't "trifle with hallucinogens." Why not? Has he ever done it? Personally I think he has, and that isn't his favorite poison. Adam further stated that you "wouldn't want to be on the wrong drugs in front of all those people because it's a full on assault," or whatever. Quotes like those make me realize that they've been on various stuff while performing, and if you look at their early 90s work, you'll see that.
You think they only drank alcohol and smoked weed? I think people need to come to terms that their favorite musicians are all on something. In that line of work, it's most likely cocaine, since that gives them a boost of energy and that extreme sense of self confidence. The theatrics of Mr. Macphisto/Fly/etc show that.

I think they still do it, just not as much due to their age and the fact that everyone has a cell phone and a camera. It's harder to get away with that stuff.

I know this is a somewhat sensitive subject - but I think you might have a point, esp. re the early 90's. I've seen some close-ups of MacPhisto with pretty glossy eyes.  ::)

But hey - I don't really care if they've used, and what they've used if they've used. But it would be really hard to live that livestyle and avoid at least trying out some substances.

We all know about Adam's issues...              ..we know about Edge's mushroom experiment...                    ...IMO as long as it won't take over their lives: none of my business.



Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: striker on December 14, 2011, 09:22:45 AM
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I think they've done a good job in hiding that aspect of their lives. Most bands wind up on the news & tabloids because they just can't control themselves with the substances, but U2 has pretty much dodged that claim throughout their career. I'm thinking it's because of their humanitarian work, and their spiritual beliefs masking that other part of their lives.
I remember reading a quote from Bono where he said he didn't "trifle with hallucinogens." Why not? Has he ever done it? Personally I think he has, and that isn't his favorite poison. Adam further stated that you "wouldn't want to be on the wrong drugs in front of all those people because it's a full on assault," or whatever. Quotes like those make me realize that they've been on various stuff while performing, and if you look at their early 90s work, you'll see that.
You think they only drank alcohol and smoked weed? I think people need to come to terms that their favorite musicians are all on something. In that line of work, it's most likely cocaine, since that gives them a boost of energy and that extreme sense of self confidence. The theatrics of Mr. Macphisto/Fly/etc show that.

I think they still do it, just not as much due to their age and the fact that everyone has a cell phone and a camera. It's harder to get away with that stuff.

I know this is a somewhat sensitive subject - but I think you might have a point, esp. re the early 90's. I've seen some close-ups of MacPhisto with pretty glossy eyes.  ::)

But hey - I don't really care if they've used, and what they've used if they've used. But it would be really hard to live that livestyle and avoid at least trying out some substances.

We all know about Adam's issues...              ..we know about Edge's mushroom experiment...                    ...IMO as long as it won't take over their lives: none of my business.




Absolutely. I think being put in a position of power and fame will eventually change your views on it over time. Especially since they have to perform hundreds of shows, flying all over the world. While you and I can generally call in sick to work without a problem, they don't necessarily have that freedom since thousands of people are depending on them. They have to perform, through thick and thin.

Not only that, can you imagine playing the same song a few thousand times? Doing the same act over and over again? I don't care what it is, or how much people like it, some type of "boredom" will kick in over time. You need to view things differently, and that's where "drugs" come in. Look at the Beatles, or the Stones, or any other band that have put amazing music out there all these years. Drugs were a huge influence, and no band out there is any different.

And by the way, I say that with a huge respect for the band. I'm not putting them down in any way. I think they've made incredible, life changing music (hence me being on this board), and I know a lot of that is because of mind altering substances. That's what it does--it changes the way you not only view yourself, but your work/craft.
It's too bad the media runs that s*** to the ground with misinformation. Nobody should be judging what someone else is doing, especially when they are on some type of vice themselves.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: kango on December 14, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Yes a bit of weed maybe, but I think Bono's too fond of a drink (and life in general) to care about experimenting with drugs. He's intellectually curious in ways which can't be fed by drugs and I've always thought his showmanship came from within and not via outside help. Plus, he's seen enough of the effects hard drug use had on other people. I think the same about Edge. Larry can't tolerate them by what he's said and while Adam came closest to experimenting, his problems were all about alcohol (often using marijuana as a replacement for drink). These days, it looks very much like Bono is on painkillers, and Adam is on tea leaves.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: xy on December 14, 2011, 10:57:55 AM
It's funny to see fan sites acting like they have any sort of inside knowledge on the use of drugs (that includes alcohol)...it speaks volumes that for a rock band with over 30+ years of experience, their worst instance is the bass player getting drunk and being caught with marijuana once. And guitar player trying "crazy shrooms".

At that level of fame it's impossible to hide any serious (ie Rolling Stones level) habit. Or the consequences of it.



Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: sw on December 14, 2011, 11:26:56 AM
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It's funny to see fan sites acting like they have any sort of inside knowledge on the use of drugs (that includes alcohol)...it speaks volumes that for a rock band with over 30+ years of experience, their worst instance is the bass player getting drunk and being caught with marijuana once. And guitar player trying "crazy shrooms".

At that level of fame it's impossible to hide any serious (ie Rolling Stones level) habit. Or the consequences of it.





Well said!!!!! I'd been trying to come up with the right words to comment on this...thank you.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: striker on December 14, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
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It's funny to see fan sites acting like they have any sort of inside knowledge on the use of drugs (that includes alcohol)...it speaks volumes that for a rock band with over 30+ years of experience, their worst instance is the bass player getting drunk and being caught with marijuana once. And guitar player trying "crazy shrooms".

At that level of fame it's impossible to hide any serious (ie Rolling Stones level) habit. Or the consequences of it.




The Stones have a different overall stage presence than U2. They've always been about partying, drugs, sex and rock n roll. And they've been vocal about it as well. U2 is different, and their activism/humanitarian work is able to topple anything that's potentially happening behind closed doors. I'm sure their spiritual/religious background is able to keep them grounded somewhat, with it also acting as a blanket of sorts to keep the overall image "clean."
I'm not saying U2 are huge drug users, definitely not a Jagger/Richards type by any means. But people can't honestly believe they've only done shrooms/pot/alcohol in their 30+ years.
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: A Pint of Yuengling on December 14, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
Bono would probably fail a drug test if it screened for certain substances...cortisone probably being the likely culprit.  :-P
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: xy on December 16, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
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But people can't honestly believe they've only done shrooms/pot/alcohol in their 30+ years.

Cool. Anything else we shouldn't beLIEve about U2 ?
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: XXXU2XXX on December 16, 2011, 11:18:56 AM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstage/hall-fame/u2
Title: Re: Ian McCulloch: Bono is "clearly out of his mind on drugs".
Post by: Spilling Over the Brim on December 16, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
Can someone please fill me in on this story about Edge and magic mushrooms? Sounds scandalous. Thanks