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Title: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
From this point on in the tournament, you must post your song selections in the thread as well as voting in the poll, otherwise your votes will not be counted.

Vote for 2 songs and the top 4 will progress to the next round.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 11:14:40 AM
Zooropa and One Tree Hill

This is going to be much harder now.  :D

How many groups are there this time?  :)
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: TheSceneoftheAccident on February 24, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
Well s*it. This is going to take some thinking.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: TheSceneoftheAccident on February 24, 2012, 11:17:32 AM
I took the dive and voted Zooropa (which I was already decided on) and Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses (it was between that, One Tree Hill, I Will Follow and Staring at the Sun)
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: ABloodRedSky on February 24, 2012, 11:26:33 AM
I'm not much for tactical voting, so instead of voting ASOH I voted Zooropa (my favourite of the bunch) and Wild Horses...hoping against hope ASOH makes it through.  :-\
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
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Zooropa and One Tree Hill

This is going to be much harder now.  :D

How many groups are there this time?  :)

8 groups with 8 songs in each.  32 songs will go through to the third round.  The third round will take the form of 2 song matches. 
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Exile on February 24, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Zooropa, Homecoming (two of the very best from their respective eras)
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 11:32:56 AM
A Sort of Homecoming & Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses.

Two of my top 10 favourite U2 songs.

Zooropa was a close third.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: marvgadgie on February 24, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
I will Follow and One Tree Hill
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 24, 2012, 11:56:51 AM
Zooropa and Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: A_Fly_On_The_Wall on February 24, 2012, 12:10:08 PM
1. Beautiful Day
2. Breathe

3. I Will Follow
4. A Sort Of Homecoming
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Boom Cha! on February 24, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
Zooropa and I Will Follow.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Bads316 on February 24, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Tough group!!

Homecoming
Zooropa

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: U2_fan8 [aka U28] on February 24, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
Zooropa and Staring at the Sun.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 12:43:48 PM
So far, 2 people have voted but not posted their song selections in the thread.

I knew it was asking too much. ::)

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
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So far, 2 people have voted but not posted their song selections in the thread.

I knew it was asking too much. ::)

Make it Red and size 60?
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Bads316 on February 24, 2012, 12:55:41 PM
Make it LAW
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: jackfly23 on February 24, 2012, 01:10:21 PM
Zooropa and Homecoming
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: spooked1oo on February 24, 2012, 01:17:31 PM
Zooropa and OTH

Wow, two months already?
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: NOLA Fly on February 24, 2012, 01:20:24 PM
I Will Follow and Staring At The Sun
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 24, 2012, 01:25:13 PM
How can you all choose? Ugh! I'm listening to them all on headphones right now and it's getting harder not easier.  :(
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 24, 2012, 01:47:37 PM
Zooropa, Starting At The Sun
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 24, 2012, 01:56:45 PM
I'll just have to tally the votes as you all post them and choose that way. It's way too close to choose. If you love ASOH how can you not also love OTH? So hard!
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: aussiefan77 on February 24, 2012, 02:43:12 PM
It was tough, but in the end I wen with One Tree Hill and Breathe
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: EnduringChill on February 24, 2012, 03:06:30 PM
I'm sorry, Staring At The Sun... I would have voted for you had I seen you. Anyway, my choices were Who's Gonna Ride and One Tree Hill.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: AchtungPop on February 24, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
Beautiful Day & Zooropa.

Nooo Beautiful Day is going to go the way of Pride. Still Haven't Found probably will as well in whatever group that ends up.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: THRILLHO on February 24, 2012, 04:09:56 PM
voted quick after readin the list once.

OTH
ASOH
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: JBS on February 24, 2012, 05:03:44 PM
Zooropa was the easy pick for me but this time around I was really torn between A Sort of Homecoming, WGRYWH and Staring at the Sun.

Went with Staring at the Sun, most likely because I had the POPmart DVD going in the background while working today.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 05:08:14 PM
A Sort of Homecoming is liked far more than I had thought.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 24, 2012, 05:08:59 PM
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A Sort of Homecoming is liked far more than I had thought.

Really? It's doing far worse than I expected.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 05:13:54 PM
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A Sort of Homecoming is liked far more than I had thought.

Really? It's doing far worse than I expected.

It's second to Zooropa already, 10 votes to 15.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 24, 2012, 05:16:09 PM
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A Sort of Homecoming is liked far more than I had thought.

Really? It's doing far worse than I expected.

It's second to Zooropa already, 10 votes to 15.

I expected it to be first.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 05:17:01 PM
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A Sort of Homecoming is liked far more than I had thought.

Really? It's doing far worse than I expected.

It's second to Zooropa already, 10 votes to 15.

It's officially 5 votes to 13. ???

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 24, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
Does OTH have 5 as well? I haven't voted yet, but I'm keeping track best I can. VERY TOUGH group!!
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on February 24, 2012, 05:43:32 PM
One Tree Hill, the song that made me a fan.

ASOH, tactical vote against the overrated Zooropa.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: northstarjo on February 24, 2012, 05:54:19 PM
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Zooropa, Homecoming (two of the very best from their respective eras)

yep.....me too
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: PartyMarty23 on February 24, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Zooropa and Beautiful Day
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: zootv on February 24, 2012, 06:09:58 PM
Zooropa
WGRYWH
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 06:11:02 PM
TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 06:14:47 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 06:17:04 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.

That's fair enough.  So why did Droo and Bads suggest having to list the songs in the thread?

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 06:22:33 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.

That's fair enough.  So why did Droo and Bads suggest having to list the songs in the thread?

Because I think it seemed kinda suspicious that Miami randomly got 2 votes, and the other songs stayed the same.

The total number of votes should always be double the amount of members that vote.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 06:29:25 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.

That's fair enough.  So why did Droo and Bads suggest having to list the songs in the thread?

Because I think it seemed kinda suspicious that Miami randomly got 2 votes, and the other songs stayed the same.

3 members voted for Miami in a very short period of time about 1 - 2 hours before the poll closed after only 6 had voted for it out of nearly 50 voters over 2 days before and it just so happened to beat Cedars by 1 vote.   But they might have voted for other songs as well as Miami.  Just seems suspicious to me.

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The total number of votes should always be double the amount of members that vote.

Not necessarily.  Some members may want to just vote for one song or mistakenly only vote for one.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.

That's fair enough.  So why did Droo and Bads suggest having to list the songs in the thread?

Because I think it seemed kinda suspicious that Miami randomly got 2 votes, and the other songs stayed the same.

3 members voted for Miami in a very short period of time about 1 - 2 hours before the poll closed after only 6 had voted for it out of nearly 50 voters over 2 days before and it just so happened to beat Cedars by 1 vote.   But they might have voted for other songs as well as Miami.  Just seems suspicious to me.

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The total number of votes should always be double the amount of members that vote.

Not necessarily.  Some members may want to just vote for one song or mistakenly only vote for one.

Oh. I thought it was mandatory that you vote for 2 songs.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 06:40:11 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Well, they might be lurking members. The ones who have accounts and participate in polls and read articles, but other than that don't want to interact with the other members here.

That's fair enough.  So why did Droo and Bads suggest having to list the songs in the thread?

Because I think it seemed kinda suspicious that Miami randomly got 2 votes, and the other songs stayed the same.

3 members voted for Miami in a very short period of time about 1 - 2 hours before the poll closed after only 6 had voted for it out of nearly 50 voters over 2 days before and it just so happened to beat Cedars by 1 vote.   But they might have voted for other songs as well as Miami.  Just seems suspicious to me.

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The total number of votes should always be double the amount of members that vote.

Not necessarily.  Some members may want to just vote for one song or mistakenly only vote for one.

Oh. I thought it was mandatory that you vote for 2 songs.

Well no, the maximum votes is 2 and I would think everybody would want to vote for 2 songs if they have that choice.   But there's nothing stop anyone only voting for 1 song.  The point is if someone has more than one account then they could  vote multiple times to affect the overall result, particularly in a close vote.  Of course a member might be banned if the Mods found out someone had more than one account.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Edgemonton on February 24, 2012, 06:47:49 PM
Zooropa and Beautiful Day
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Blue Silken Sky on February 24, 2012, 06:51:40 PM
OTH and SATS
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Grave on February 24, 2012, 07:11:23 PM
ASOH
Wild Horses
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 24, 2012, 08:28:50 PM
It's like having a captcha thing to fill out as an antispam measure when signing up for things. Making people list their votes keeps things more transparent and eliminates any chance of cheating.

Cheating really does undermine something like this. I actually want to know fair and square what the preferred songs are.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 08:49:04 PM
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It's like having a captcha thing to fill out as an antispam measure when signing up for things. Making people list their votes keeps things more transparent and eliminates any chance of cheating.

Cheating really does undermine something like this. I actually want to know fair and square what the preferred songs are.

I agree because cheating makes a mockery of everybody else's vote.   And I really don't understand why EVERYBODY who votes can't list 2 songs in a post, even if only the initials of the song. 

The thing is it's rather awkward because people wanna be able to see how the poll is going, but the poll results that people can see will be inaccurate if I only count the votes of members who have posted them as not everybody who has voted has posted them. 

All this never even entered my mind before until I noticed suspicious voting irregularities the other night.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on February 24, 2012, 09:10:16 PM
Zooropa, I Will Follow.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: AchtungPop on February 24, 2012, 09:14:09 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Possible that they just vote in the poll and don't read the post, so they don't know. I didn't read the posts for the first couple of polls.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 09:33:10 PM
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TD the results seem okay, 60 votes cast for 30 members.

The votes cast to members always seemed ok.

But so far, only 23 members have listed their songs on the thread.  So why haven't the 7 other voters?

Possible that they just vote in the poll and don't read the post, so they don't know. I didn't read the posts for the first couple of polls.

Oh I understand that.  Normally it wouldn't be a problem, but if there is a member who is voting more than once then no result is safe.  And I have stated at the head of the poll 'Vote for 2 songs and then post them in the thread for your vote to count.'

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Exile on February 24, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
Other than someone creating multiple accounts (which hardly seems worth the hassle), I don't understand how cheating would even be possible.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 24, 2012, 09:42:29 PM
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Other than someone creating multiple accounts (which hardly seems worth the hassle), I don't understand how cheating would even be possible.

You would be surprised how far some people go to troll things up. I moderate at another message board and I can tell you they can be surprisingly dedicated.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Exile on February 24, 2012, 09:45:34 PM
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Other than someone creating multiple accounts (which hardly seems worth the hassle), I don't understand how cheating would even be possible.

You would be surprised how far some people go to troll things up. I moderate at another message board and I can tell you they can be surprisingly dedicated.

Huh. So can we reopen the Wire/Walk On poll for about ten minutes?
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 24, 2012, 09:45:47 PM
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Other than someone creating multiple accounts (which hardly seems worth the hassle), I don't understand how cheating would even be possible.

Not to you and me maybe, but for a cynical minded person, possibly someone who might hardly ever participate on the forum, they may decide to have a bit of fun at out expense.  It's certainly possible to create multiple accounts.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Kurukira on February 24, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Zooropa
and
Staring At The Sun
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: rubbersoul on February 25, 2012, 02:21:03 AM
Homecoming Horses
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 25, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
ASOH and Wild Horses.  8)
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: horizon on February 25, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Zooropa
BD
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Darth Tytis on February 26, 2012, 02:02:20 AM
A Sort of Homecoming
Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Aqua on February 26, 2012, 02:06:43 AM
Close one, but went with Beautiful Day and Breathe :).

It's a shame both have so few votes. They're great songs.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 26, 2012, 02:32:25 AM
EASY.

Beautiful Day
Zooropa
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: mrbono on February 26, 2012, 05:38:41 AM
Wild Horses and Homecoming
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 26, 2012, 09:16:14 AM
This isn't even fun. :(

Very TOUGH choice, but I went with my first instinct after all even though I love the other songs as well, particularly Beautiful Day and Horses. :(

Zooropa was just fine w/o me. :)

A Sort of Homecoming
One Tree Hill
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: CherryYouDanceWithMe on February 26, 2012, 11:10:18 AM
ASOH
Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 26, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Wild Horses beat One Tree Hill!

Amazing!
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 26, 2012, 11:47:50 AM
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Wild Horses beat One Tree Hill!

Amazing!

It's CherryYouDance wot won it.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Droo on February 26, 2012, 12:51:47 PM
Also notable here is that several huge singles were cut (Beautiful Day, I Will Follow) in favour of album tracks like Zooropa and A Sort Of Homecoming.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 26, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
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Also notable here is that several huge singles were cut (Beautiful Day, I Will Follow) in favour of album tracks like Zooropa and A Sort Of Homecoming.

I think ASOH and Zooropa are far and away better then IWF and BD.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: The Grave on February 26, 2012, 01:11:32 PM
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Also notable here is that several huge singles were cut (Beautiful Day, I Will Follow) in favour of album tracks like Zooropa and A Sort Of Homecoming.

I think ASOH and Zooropa are far and away better then IWF and BD.
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: iluvyomumma on February 27, 2012, 03:46:54 PM
Zooropa and A sort of homecoming for me please
Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 27, 2012, 03:48:26 PM
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Zooropa and A sort of homecoming for me please

I think you're standing at the station and the train's done gone.

Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: iluvyomumma on February 27, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
I noticed.  :( but they still won :)

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Title: Re: 2012 Ultimate Song Tournament: Round 2 - Group 1
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 27, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
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I noticed.  :( but they still won :)

sorry as you can see I dont post much. just tend to read everyones thoughts and opinions. hello everyone :)

Hello.  :)