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Title: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
Having listened to the song a couple of times, I think we need a thread like this.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheU2Ken on February 02, 2014, 09:54:52 AM
superb
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: imaginary friend on February 02, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
Closer to superb than to good, so I rounded up.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
Sounds like Ordinary Love to me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 10:00:39 AM
Just hits Good because of the lyrics, Bono's vocals, and drums. The guitar and melody aren't hitting me right.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 02, 2014, 10:02:25 AM
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Closer to superb than to good, so I rounded up.

Same for me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: smee on February 02, 2014, 10:04:24 AM
I voted Rubbish. Its like mercy pt 2 and I loathe that song. Thats two crap songs back to back!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:06:14 AM
It's got that Coldplay sound which so lacks creativity on U2's part.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheU2Ken on February 02, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
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It's got that Coldplay sound which so lacks creativity on U2's part.
So Coldplay sounds like U2, but U2 sounds like Coldplay!?!?!

ENDLESS LOOP
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Doc_Holiday on February 02, 2014, 10:08:44 AM
Average. I'm really disappointed, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
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It's got that Coldplay sound which so lacks creativity on U2's part.
So Coldplay sounds like U2, but U2 sounds like Coldplay!?!?!

ENDLESS LOOP

No it has that sound coming through A LOT which I associate with Coldplay, which U2 hadn't used before CP. 

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheU2Ken on February 02, 2014, 10:11:40 AM
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It's got that Coldplay sound which so lacks creativity on U2's part.
So Coldplay sounds like U2, but U2 sounds like Coldplay!?!?!

ENDLESS LOOP

No it has that sound coming through A LOT which I associate with Coldplay, which U2 hadn't used before CP.
I love Coldplay so no surprised I love this song
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
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I voted Rubbish.


That sounds harsh.  Do you really think the song per se is rubbish, or is your response due to having - perfectly understandable - high expectations of the new U2 sound and they have disappointed you?

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Bill on February 02, 2014, 10:14:52 AM
U2 have recorded a Classic!  8)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Blue Silken Sky on February 02, 2014, 10:15:30 AM
I voted "good" because while I really liked it (especially the bass line), it felt like it was building up to something and didn't quite get there. I'm imagining a longer edit that might be a little more dramatic. For me it just did the old T.S. Eliot ending of not with a bang but a whimper. I'm not too concerned though because this is easily rectified in live settings.  :)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:18:33 AM
OK I'm voting average.   :-\
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: THRILLHO on February 02, 2014, 10:18:49 AM
Good. Nothing more nothing less. I imagine the longer edit will be better the way epworths OL mix improved upon the original.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: AJ on February 02, 2014, 10:19:10 AM
I voted good. I love most of the song, especially the beginning, that really surprised me. Some of the song sounds forced though. Nevermind, after several more listens it grew on me. Superb
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ZooClothes on February 02, 2014, 10:20:31 AM
Great lyrics, really good guitar, average drums and bass, good chorus. A couple of liftoff moments. I'd like to hear a longer version.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
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I voted "good" because while I really liked it (especially the bass line), it felt like it was building up to something and didn't quite get there. I'm imagining a longer edit that might be a little more dramatic. For me it just did the old T.S. Eliot ending of not with a bang but a whimper. I'm not too concerned though because this is easily rectified in live settings.  :)

I can't see it packing much of a punch live to be honest.

I'm now hoping for another fractured and eclectic album.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: seashells on February 02, 2014, 10:23:36 AM
Superb
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: OnlyU2 on February 02, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
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U2 have recorded a Classic!  8)

This
Superb
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ZooClothes on February 02, 2014, 10:26:08 AM
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I voted "good" because while I really liked it (especially the bass line), it felt like it was building up to something and didn't quite get there. I'm imagining a longer edit that might be a little more dramatic. For me it just did the old T.S. Eliot ending of not with a bang but a whimper. I'm not too concerned though because this is easily rectified in live settings.  :)

I can't see it packing much of a punch live to be honest.


I'm thinking the opposite
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 02, 2014, 10:27:08 AM
Superb probably isn't a good enough word for me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Blue Silken Sky on February 02, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
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I voted "good" because while I really liked it (especially the bass line), it felt like it was building up to something and didn't quite get there. I'm imagining a longer edit that might be a little more dramatic. For me it just did the old T.S. Eliot ending of not with a bang but a whimper. I'm not too concerned though because this is easily rectified in live settings.  :)

I can't see it packing much of a punch live to be honest.

I'm now hoping for another fractured and eclectic album.
Hold out hope! But I'm holding out hope for a longer mix with perhaps another verse and a bit more of a climax to it. That's easy to insert live.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
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Superb probably isn't a good enough word for me.

I was thinking of giving you an elevator key to the penthouse, OAP, when I made the poll. :)

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 02, 2014, 10:31:27 AM
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Superb probably isn't a good enough word for me.

I was thinking of giving you an elevator key to the penthouse, OAP, when I made the poll. :)

Oh you know for sure this song is right up my alley!

I am a happy U2 fan today.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 10:31:34 AM
What is wrong w/ me?  :'(

I'm a Bono Girl. HE sounds terrific - even non-Bono Girls will have to admit that. I think the song sounds better broken down in pieces like in the Facebook making of documentary. The VERY beginning I like, and then the buzzy guitar and commercial sound of it make me love it less. I don't not like it, I just want MORE!!!

I am also a Coldplay fan, so it's not a negative if people hear Coldplay in this.  :-\
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Blue Silken Sky on February 02, 2014, 10:35:02 AM
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What is wrong w/ me?  :'(

I'm a Bono Girl. HE sounds terrific - even non-Bono Girls will have to admit that. I think the song sounds better broken down in pieces like in the Facebook making of documentary. The VERY beginning I like, and then the buzzy guitar and commercial sound of it make me love it less. I don't not like it, I just want MORE!!!

I am also a Coldplay fan, so it's not a negative if people hear Coldplay in this.  :-\
Have you been able to re-listen with fully functioning speakers?  ;) And don't feel badly! You're entitled to feel however you like about it. Sometimes we're made to question ourselves by looking at everyone else's opinions, but we're allowed to have our own (and change them, if we like). No ambivalent or sad faces.  8)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ZooClothes on February 02, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
It's immediately growing on me. While I don't like the drum "sound" (drum-machiney) I'm now hearing really good drum parts. What I thought was non-existent bass and a backing guitar part I'm now hear as the actual bass, and it's a good bassline. I love the pace of the song. It ends too soon. Hopefully the album version adds another chorus/extended guitar solo. 5 listens in now. The wife loves it. I don't hear Coldplay, just some Killers in the distorted guitar part (which I love as well). Great liftoff in the "I'm not invisible, I am here" part.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Blue Silken Sky on February 02, 2014, 10:38:29 AM
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It's immediately growing on me. While I don't like the drum "sound" (drum-machiney) I'm now hearing really good drum parts. What I thought was non-existent bass and a backing guitar part I'm now hear as the actual bass, and it's a good bassline. I love the pace of the song. It ends too soon. Hopefully the album version adds another chorus/extended guitar solo. 5 listens in now. The wife loves it. I don't hear Coldplay, just some Killers in the distorted guitar part (which I love as well). Great liftoff in the "I'm not invisible, I am here" part.
We're twinsies on these. Good listening!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
You don't hear CP??

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Miami66 on February 02, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
like OAP said, I'm a happy U2 fan today ;D
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ZooClothes on February 02, 2014, 10:42:18 AM
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You don't hear CP??

No piano, at least.  ;D
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Runtmg on February 02, 2014, 10:44:22 AM
I like the song. 

To begin with, this is feisty Bono.  I feel that he is upset and does care about what people think of him.  This song is him shooting back at critics in the song.

I missed feisty Bono. 

In regards to the song, look this song is way better than get on your boots. 

My only critique is that the coda doesn't have a lot of lift.  The harmony is too low. 

All in all, not a bad song and certainly not one of their worst.  Will be good live.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
Going to let is sit before nailing my colours to the mast - im betting that the 'oh my god its amazing crew' and the 'its garbage crew' are both mainly knee jerk reactions born out of extreme fandom where u2 can do no wrong and on the flip side dissappointment that it isn't the sound people wanted or expected.

For me the fact it isnt something i instantly hate like OL is a bonus, but im not wowed like the fly. . .

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: connemarawithin on February 02, 2014, 10:48:26 AM
It's an interesting three and a half minutes. There are a lot of echoes of The Killers and, perhaps, Coldplay. Yet U2, and their influences, have made the sounds of those bands. So, it's really those influences that are the most apparent here. It's not The Killers and Coldplay at work, it's Joy Division, OMD, Ultravox, Human League, etc. The sonic background of the time when Bono became Bono, as it were. So, while The Killers and Coldplay seem the most likely comparisons, it's nice to see U2 still stealing from the thieves after all these years.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
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Going to let is sit before nailing my colours to the mast - im betting that the 'oh my god its amazing crew' and the 'its garbage crew' are both mainly knee jerk reactions born out of extreme fandom where u2 can do no wrong and on the flip side dissappointment that it isn't the sound people wanted or expected.




Speak freely, an tha, you're amongst friends here.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
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Going to let is sit before nailing my colours to the mast - im betting that the 'oh my god its amazing crew' and the 'its garbage crew' are both mainly knee jerk reactions born out of extreme fandom where u2 can do no wrong and on the flip side dissappointment that it isn't the sound people wanted or expected.




Speak freely, an tha, you're amongst friends here.

I have no idea what you mean, friend!

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 02, 2014, 10:51:17 AM
Very good. I agree with whoever said it feels like it is building to something it never quite reaches in the choruses, but really enjoyed overall. Most importantly, it does sound different, which I appreciate a lot.  So I guess I like it as a song but I'm more excited because of what it suggests the album's potential could be than anything else.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
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What is wrong w/ me?  :'(

I'm a Bono Girl. HE sounds terrific - even non-Bono Girls will have to admit that. I think the song sounds better broken down in pieces like in the Facebook making of documentary. The VERY beginning I like, and then the buzzy guitar and commercial sound of it make me love it less. I don't not like it, I just want MORE!!!

I am also a Coldplay fan, so it's not a negative if people hear Coldplay in this.  :-\
Have you been able to re-listen with fully functioning speakers?  ;) And don't feel badly! You're entitled to feel however you like about it. Sometimes we're made to question ourselves by looking at everyone else's opinions, but we're allowed to have our own (and change them, if we like). No ambivalent or sad faces.  8)

Straddling  hubby as he lies underneath my keyboard working on it. lol!!

I have a cold and am lethargic, that must be it.

I also think I had a preconceived idea that we were getting earlier U2, so they said, so I'm thinking WAR and RAW. I shall give it another listen once the speakers are full tilt. :) I've listened about 8 times with one speaker so far.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 02, 2014, 10:56:05 AM
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like OAP said, I'm a happy U2 fan today ;D

PLEASE let the album sound like this.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:58:09 AM
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What is wrong w/ me?  :'(

I'm a Bono Girl. HE sounds terrific - even non-Bono Girls will have to admit that. I think the song sounds better broken down in pieces like in the Facebook making of documentary. The VERY beginning I like, and then the buzzy guitar and commercial sound of it make me love it less. I don't not like it, I just want MORE!!!

I am also a Coldplay fan, so it's not a negative if people hear Coldplay in this.  :-\
Have you been able to re-listen with fully functioning speakers?  ;) And don't feel badly! You're entitled to feel however you like about it. Sometimes we're made to question ourselves by looking at everyone else's opinions, but we're allowed to have our own (and change them, if we like). No ambivalent or sad faces.  8)

Straddling  hubby as he lies underneath my keyboard working on it. lol!!


 :o
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
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like OAP said, I'm a happy U2 fan today ;D

PLEASE let the album sound like this.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

At least it doesn't sound loud to the point of distortion, like Bomb is.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
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like OAP said, I'm a happy U2 fan today ;D

PLEASE let the album sound like this.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

At least it doesn't sound loud to the point of distortion, like Bomb is.

It's not that, it's the kind of sound it is. I like Bomb more than most here.

That straddling line was just for you, TD!  :-*

OK, he says it's fixed. Another listen now.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: smee on February 02, 2014, 11:04:02 AM
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like OAP said, I'm a happy U2 fan today ;D

PLEASE let the album sound like this.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.

F**k.....NO!!!......if it does...it will be the first u2 album i have no interest in owning, in 33 yrs of devotion to the band!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 02, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
Average.

Absolutely nothing new or exciting in the song, It would fit in well on all of U2's very average last three albums.

Its not bad.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: DGordon1 on February 02, 2014, 11:04:43 AM
I agree that it sounds reminiscent of The Killers at times, but it's also got a natural flow to it. It's the sound of U2 incorporating new sounds whilst being themselves. As others have said, albums like AB & Pop took inspiration from other sounds as well. U2 have only ever been experimental within the realm of established popular music genres.

The important thing for me is - does the song inspire, and do the band sound on form? For me, they undoubtedly do. I voted "good", because I think the ending is slightly lacking. Great song melodically.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Mike_e_boy1 on February 02, 2014, 11:08:16 AM
Ok so U2 promised and come back sounding average. Better than the banal ordinary love but not a patch on Mercy.  And what happened to the end of the song.... A not bad b side but hardly the crest of an oncoming wave.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: EdgeUK8_my_mind on February 02, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
excited to hear new music out of the band, but I am not excited about this song yet.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:17:58 AM
Wow! Guitar much more present now that the right speaker is fixed.  ;)

I can't decide if Edge's guitar is more Battle Born or Mylo Xyloto.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: zootv on February 02, 2014, 11:20:12 AM
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Sounds like Ordinary Love to me.
+ 1. My first impression is that its an average song coming from a band that is also approaching average.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 11:20:17 AM
Just had 2 listens on the ipod. . . It does not quite go where it promises to. . A better ending would help. . Bono's singing is decent in the main - a very ropey 'them' near the end though!

Is it the sound of 'the worlds greatest rock and roll band' at the very top of their game? No.

Is it a song that is a jaw dropping belter with something that makes it sound epic? No.

Its a decent song that i feel could be better for a bit more 'power' and as i say a better ending.

It's average for me - just missing good for being a bit lightweight and that ending which had they turned into a powerful explosive coda would have pushed it into good territory for me.

It almost sounds restrained/unfinished - which may be the edit just curtailing it.

It just falls short of lift off and needs a bit more fire.

Not terrible, not great - just average.... And the more i hear the more it reminds me of the killers.

Interestingly the next song on my ipod was arcade fires wake up - which eclipses invisible totally.

6.5/10
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: smee on February 02, 2014, 11:21:37 AM
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Wow! Guitar much more present now that the right speaker is fixed.  ;)

I can't decide if Edge's guitar is more Battle Born or Mylo Xyloto.
A sad fall from grace for a once superb band. hows about sounding like u2, instead of bland sounding modern day crappy bands. i was soooo hoping to be blown away by the new song. Amazing how much a poor u2 song can bring down your day
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 02, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
One thing I notice is how the first 10-20 seconds do not match the rest of the song at all.

It's like the beginning of Magnificent in a way, which doesn't really match the song at all.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:24:08 AM
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Wow! Guitar much more present now that the right speaker is fixed.  ;)

I can't decide if Edge's guitar is more Battle Born or Mylo Xyloto.
A sad fall from grace for a once superb band. hows about sounding like u2, instead of bland sounding modern day crappy bands. i was soooo hoping to be blown away by the new song. Amazing how much a poor u2 song can bring down your day

I like both bands and have seen both live and they aren't crappy.

They just need to get their balls sorted out (all ways inferred). The making of version sounds better and I hope more raw/rock. Either way, they look great and Bono sounds great. We are spoiled by all their greatness and they are trying to go mainstream, particularly with this song I'd think. For what they want it to do, I think it's the right sound.

Midnight - I'd like more of that beginning and less of the slide buzzy whatever it is guitar sound. It is still bothering me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
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Wow! Guitar much more present now that the right speaker is fixed.  ;)

I can't decide if Edge's guitar is more Battle Born or Mylo Xyloto.
A sad fall from grace for a once superb band. hows about sounding like u2, instead of bland sounding modern day crappy bands. i was soooo hoping to be blown away by the new song. Amazing how much a poor u2 song can bring down your day

I like both bands and have seen both live and they aren't crappy.

They just need to get their balls sorted out (all ways inferred). The making of version sounds better and I hope more raw/rock. Either way, they look great and Bono sounds great. We are spoiled by all their greatness and they are trying to go mainstream, particularly with this song I'd think. For what they want it to do, I think it's the right sound.

Interesting that often the unfinished/work in progress versions of u2 songs are often 'heavier' 'rawer' than what gets released.

I do wonder if they over polish/make poppier things out of a fear of not making radio or being liked by audience

NLOTH 2 being a good example compared to the one on the album
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
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Wow! Guitar much more present now that the right speaker is fixed.  ;)

I can't decide if Edge's guitar is more Battle Born or Mylo Xyloto.
A sad fall from grace for a once superb band. hows about sounding like u2, instead of bland sounding modern day crappy bands. i was soooo hoping to be blown away by the new song. Amazing how much a poor u2 song can bring down your day

I like both bands and have seen both live and they aren't crappy.

They just need to get their balls sorted out (all ways inferred). The making of version sounds better and I hope more raw/rock. Either way, they look great and Bono sounds great. We are spoiled by all their greatness and they are trying to go mainstream, particularly with this song I'd think. For what they want it to do, I think it's the right sound.

Interesting that often the unfinished/work in progress versions of u2 songs are often 'heavier' 'rawer' than what gets released.

I do wonder if they over polish/make poppier things out of a fear of not making radio or being liked by audience

NLOTH 2 being a good example compared to the one on the album

This. Give me the boys raw, like my tuna.  ;)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Johnny Feathers on February 02, 2014, 11:32:53 AM
I don't know...after one listen I'm still up in the air on it. It did keep me from rolling my eyes or spewing vitriol. I didn't hear anything that Larry or Adam could have been doing, but I'll take it from the thread that they're just buried in the mix. My biggest complaint is probably Bono's singing--lazy vocals, and more generic uplifting stuff. Hm. We'll see how I feel after a few more listens.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Mike_e_boy1 on February 02, 2014, 11:33:11 AM
Ok repeat listening it does grow. Encouraging then but... Do you remember the shock of The Fly or Discotech? Right back to New Years Day.  New U2 song was an event... You didn't know what to expect... That was a long time ago.... Now this sounds like you expect it too...and it sounds like the bands U2 used to influence... Golden days are over... Fine... There's plenty strong exciting new bands out that are relevant... This is ok... Just cut back on the arrogance and bragging and enjoy for what is!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:35:27 AM
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I don't know...after one listen I'm still up in the air on it. It did keep me from rolling my eyes or spewing vitriol. I didn't hear anything that Larry or Adam could have been doing, but I'll take it from the thread that they're just buried in the mix. My biggest complaint is probably Bono's singing--lazy vocals, and more generic uplifting stuff. Hm. We'll see how I feel after a few more listens.

I think it is specifically FOR the mainstream. We here are NOT the mainstream. We like our boys like we know they can be. They are stuck on radio play. We need them to tour and ramp up the raw.  That's how we like them.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: truthsfate on February 02, 2014, 11:36:57 AM
Average.

This track needs a meatier mix. Best thing U2 could do at this point is release new material with 2 or more versions so they can please us more tenured collective as well as the new pop kids...
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:39:49 AM
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Average.

This track needs a meatier mix. Best thing U2 could do at this point is release new material with 2 or more versions so they can please us more tenured collective as well as the new pop kids...

Absolutely. The video making of Invisible shows more meat. We are all carnivores when it comes to our band!  :)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
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I don't know...after one listen I'm still up in the air on it. It did keep me from rolling my eyes or spewing vitriol. I didn't hear anything that Larry or Adam could have been doing, but I'll take it from the thread that they're just buried in the mix. My biggest complaint is probably Bono's singing--lazy vocals, and more generic uplifting stuff. Hm. We'll see how I feel after a few more listens.

I think it is specifically FOR the mainstream. We here are NOT the mainstream. We like our boys like we know they can be. They are stuck on radio play. We need them to tour and ramp up the raw.  That's how we like them.

Agree completely. Rock n roll is best when its raw, not computerized.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
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I don't know...after one listen I'm still up in the air on it. It did keep me from rolling my eyes or spewing vitriol. I didn't hear anything that Larry or Adam could have been doing, but I'll take it from the thread that they're just buried in the mix. My biggest complaint is probably Bono's singing--lazy vocals, and more generic uplifting stuff. Hm. We'll see how I feel after a few more listens.

I agree, they do seem like generic uplifting lyrics from Bono.  And yes, Larry and Adam are buried in the mix and even the Edge doesn't seem to be playing much except for chiming away in the background.  It sounds like Bono alone with a drum machine and synthesizers.

City of Blinding Lights is a lot better, IMHO.  They have similar themes, but I can relate to the lyrics of COBL far more.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 11:43:39 AM
My test was that I wanted the new U2 sound to have rawness and passion - but this doesn't have either of those.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Arccc on February 02, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
1. Too much Drum machine, seems like there is no need for Larry anymore(he is like in background in verses);
2. Good verses;
3. Chorus good, but is like climbing and doesnt get you there (needs the final word Invisible longer and on a higher note :)));
4. Too short, needs another verse/chorus.
5. Coda and Ending good.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:46:52 AM
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I don't know...after one listen I'm still up in the air on it. It did keep me from rolling my eyes or spewing vitriol. I didn't hear anything that Larry or Adam could have been doing, but I'll take it from the thread that they're just buried in the mix. My biggest complaint is probably Bono's singing--lazy vocals, and more generic uplifting stuff. Hm. We'll see how I feel after a few more listens.

I think it is specifically FOR the mainstream. We here are NOT the mainstream. We like our boys like we know they can be. They are stuck on radio play. We need them to tour and ramp up the raw.  That's how we like them.

Agree completely. Rock n roll is best when its raw, not computerized.

So, then, we agree that U2 is indeed a rock n roll band. (Starts another 300+ threads)

Of note how much the younger folks on here and on twitter seem to like this.

I like Alternative/Indie and computerized music too and that's mostly the stations I listen to and then add in Rock stations. However, I definitely realize I like my U2 rock style. Although, some would say Magnificent is computerized and I LOVE that! What a contradiction I am.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:48:04 AM
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My test was that I wanted the new U2 sound to have rawness and passion - but this doesn't have either of those.

The original lyrics from the making of video have more of this and even the snippets of it sound this way. I think they need a rock version of this released NOW!!

Didn't miryclay or someone say they should do a bunch of versions of the same song. I think this is a very good idea!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 11:54:55 AM
I'm harking back to the good old days and listening to Get on Your Boots.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
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I'm harking back to the good old days and listening to Get on Your Boots.

I liked that live too and don't hate it as much as most here.  :P
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 11:58:29 AM
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I'm harking back to the good old days and listening to Get on Your Boots.

I liked that live too and don't hate it as much as most here.  :P

I was being serious.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
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I'm harking back to the good old days and listening to Get on Your Boots.

I liked that live too and don't hate it as much as most here.  :P

I was being serious.

GOYB did have that harder guitar.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 12:00:43 PM
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I'm harking back to the good old days and listening to Get on Your Boots.

I liked that live too and don't hate it as much as most here.  :P

I was being serious.

GOYB did have that harder guitar.

The lyrics are catchier, too.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 12:01:22 PM
^Shhhh.... We're at their party!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: zootv on February 02, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
I'm hoping that this is one of the weaker tracks off the new album, that's why they gave it to RED. If this turns out to be one of the stronger tracks on the album, then I'm giving up on any chance of U2 ever releasing another great album.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 12:03:57 PM
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I'm hoping that this is one of the weaker tracks off the new album, that's why they gave it to RED. If this turns out to be one of the stronger tracks on the album, then I'm giving up on any chance of U2 ever releasing another great album.

What happens if the new album has a cohesive sound?

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: zootv on February 02, 2014, 12:17:29 PM
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I'm hoping that this is one of the weaker tracks off the new album, that's why they gave it to RED. If this turns out to be one of the stronger tracks on the album, then I'm giving up on any chance of U2 ever releasing another great album.

What happens if the new album has a cohesive sound?



Well that depends on the overall cohesion. If Invisible is a lull in the cohesion, then the album has great potential. If Invisible is the climax so to speak, then not so much.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: zootv on February 02, 2014, 12:18:53 PM
I must say I'm listening to it now through a pair of very good headphones. Much better.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Wtn24 on February 02, 2014, 12:19:06 PM
Love it!!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: shadent on February 02, 2014, 12:22:36 PM
Significantly better than Ordinary Love. There's a reason Bono said this wasn't the 1st single, it's not strong enough. To help Red it's just fine
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ehtaerb on February 02, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
Have to agree with a lot of the comments so far - it is too pop/electronic for me too.

I hope Bono & the boys grow some balls and get back to the rock roots & uplifting anthems, but I fear they are chasing that 'relevant' and 'radio friendly' dream......
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Candysroom on February 02, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
I think the video looks better than the song sounds on first listen. That's not the way I want it to be. Will keep listening.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
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I think the video looks better than the song sounds on first listen. That's not the way I want it to be. Will keep listening.

Welcome to the forum. :)

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: imaginary friend on February 02, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
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I must say I'm listening to it now through a pair of very good headphones. Much better.

the version that's in the ad has a quite different mix. Check it out when you can.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Candysroom on February 02, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
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I think the video looks better than the song sounds on first listen. That's not the way I want it to be. Will keep listening.

Welcome to the forum. :)

Thank you, appreciate the welcome
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: striped potatoe on February 02, 2014, 01:23:56 PM
I think it sounds great. I voted good. I'm officially excited for the new album. I like the sort of computerish sounding beginning.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 01:44:04 PM
Mixed Emotions is the best way to describe how I feel about this song.

1. It's miles better then Ordinary Love which was as bland as U2 have ever been.

2. Who the f**k neutered Larry? Standard pop drum machine electronic beats is not what made U2 great. Let Larry and Adam be the strength of the rhythm section, not a computer.

3. This would be a great Killers song, but it's not a great U2 song. My bar for U2 is set very high, and while this is a good song by them, it doesn't reach the bar that's been set. My bar for the Killers isn't as high as U2, so for them this song would meet it.

This leads me to the point that my expectations for U2 are probably higher then their own. I see U2 as one of the best (and my favorite) rock bands in history. With a U2 release I don't compare it to the bands chasing U2 now (the Killers, Coldplay, etc), I compare it the great bands in rock history and U2s own great songs. If I hold U2 with the likes of bands/artists in their prime like the Stones, Zep, Bowie, Springsteen, the Clash, etc... I want their music to stand up with the best. Does Invisible stand up with the best of U2, Zep, the Stones, Bowie, etc..? No, it doesn't.

Maybe I need to lower my expectations. I should just enjoy it for what it is, a good but not great song, and remind myself they're not in their prime anymore.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 02:00:01 PM
Whilst invisible is an ok song - it does make me wonder if u2 will ever be truly great again. . .

Just had my ipod on shuffle and invisible came on in a run of 5 songs:

Queens of the Stone Age - No one knows
The White Stripes - Black Math
The Strokes - Heart in a Cage
U2 - Invisible
Smashing Pumpkins - Ava Adore

The U2 song in my view is easily the weakest of the 5 and sounds 'weedy' amongst them - for me that shouldnt be the case.

I dont hate the song - its an ok song, but is it one fitting for a band as revered as u2?



Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: singnomore on February 02, 2014, 02:04:33 PM

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Whilst invisible is an ok song - it does make me wonder if u2 will ever be truly great again. . .

Just had my ipod on shuffle and invisible came on in a run of 5 songs:

Queens of the Stoneage - No one knows
The White Stripes - Black Math
The Strokes - Heart in a Cage
U2 - Invisible
Smashing Pumpkins - Ava Adore

The U2 song in my view is easily the weakest of the 5 and sounds 'weedy' amongst them - for me that shouldnt be the case.

I dont hate the song - its an ok song, but is it one fitting for a band as revered as u2?

I guess that's up for the listener to decide. That's why I find music a great outlet.

Personally I really like it but I get why some don't
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 02:06:49 PM
QOSA are boring live. Jack White is not even in the same category as U2.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: BringCitrus on February 02, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Really dig the restrained outro. The chorus is almost a straight rip of the pre-chorus in Kite... especially that "you know" part. Got so sick of the muffled drum recording that dominated most of the other 2000s albums that I really don't mind the drum machine sound. Nothing absolutely mind-blowing here but definitely in a positive direction for me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 02:11:13 PM
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Whilst invisible is an ok song - it does make me wonder if u2 will ever be truly great again. . .

Just had my ipod on shuffle and invisible came on in a run of 5 songs:

Queens of the Stoneage - No one knows
The White Stripes - Black Math
The Strokes - Heart in a Cage
U2 - Invisible
Smashing Pumpkins - Ava Adore

The U2 song in my view is easily the weakest of the 5 and sounds 'weedy' amongst them - for me that shouldnt be the case.

I dont hate the song - its an ok song, but is it one fitting for a band as revered as u2?

I guess that's up for the listener to decide. That's why I find music a great outlet.

Personally I really like it but I get why some don't

Im not slating it - its average to me, but no more.

I actually think they have put it through their 'mainstream filter' and polished away the rawness and in turn stunted the power and emotion, that if allowed to come through and if there was just a touch more fire or it was a bit meatier - it would be a good maybe even very good return.

It just seems u2 are playing within themselves or some boundary they have set - it sounds subdued - like it could be a beast but they wont let it be.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: THRILLHO on February 02, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
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Nothing absolutely mind-blowing here but definitely in a positive direction for me.

This
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
I'm amazed that 75% of the members polled think it's either superb or good.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
Got it. The overall guitar is Coldplayish. The solo Edge work is Killersish. Okay, now I get where I'm feeling them.

Great workout song!

Bono's vocals - so good!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 02:30:34 PM
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Bono's vocals - so good!

None of the words or phrases jump out or paint a vivid picture.  It's oh-so-generic.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Boom Cha! on February 02, 2014, 02:32:51 PM
Good. Nothing earth shattering, but nothing terrible.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
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Bono's vocals - so good!

None of the words or phrases jump out or paint a vivid picture.  It's oh-so-generic.

That would be the lyrics you speak of and I disagree.

I'm more than you know, a body and soul
you don't see me but you will, I'm not INVISIBLE!

Hello?

Fits VERY well with their origins and the back story AND for Africa! Well done!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: U2runnr on February 02, 2014, 02:42:25 PM
I don't see how people say theres no substance to this song, maybe its not quite what some had hoped for, but I love the sound and direction here. The vocals are better than anything on the last 3 albums imo and the lyrics while not their "best" are certainly up there for me.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 02:45:50 PM
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Bono's vocals - so good!

None of the words or phrases jump out or paint a vivid picture.  It's oh-so-generic.

That would be the lyrics you speak of and I disagree.

I'm more than you know, a body and soul
you don't see me but you will, I'm not INVISIBLE!

Hello?

Fits VERY well with their origins and the back story AND for Africa! Well done!

Nah, they don't do it for me.  Bland.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 02, 2014, 02:52:26 PM
I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: DGordon1 on February 02, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
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Bono's vocals - so good!

None of the words or phrases jump out or paint a vivid picture.  It's oh-so-generic.

That would be the lyrics you speak of and I disagree.

I'm more than you know, a body and soul
you don't see me but you will, I'm not INVISIBLE!

Hello?

Fits VERY well with their origins and the back story AND for Africa! Well done!

Nah, they don't do it for me.  Bland.



I don't agree with them being generic - there's a clear idea behind the song and the lyrics support it. They have the typical amount of U2 vagueness to make it accessible to the masses though.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Bill on February 02, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
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I'm amazed that 75% of the members polled think it's either superb or good.

We recognize excellent quality when we hear it!  8) Invisible is a Classic!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 03:01:53 PM
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Bono's vocals - so good!

None of the words or phrases jump out or paint a vivid picture.  It's oh-so-generic.

That would be the lyrics you speak of and I disagree.

I'm more than you know, a body and soul
you don't see me but you will, I'm not INVISIBLE!

Hello?

Fits VERY well with their origins and the back story AND for Africa! Well done!

Nah, they don't do it for me.  Bland.



I don't agree with them being generic - there's a clear idea behind the song and the lyrics support it. They have the typical amount of U2 vagueness to make it accessible to the masses though.

Alright, generic may be the wrong word. 
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 03:03:19 PM
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I'm amazed that 75% of the members polled think it's either superb or good.

We recognize excellent quality when we hear it!  8) Invisible is a Classic!

Fair do's.  I'm just amazed is all.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
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I'm amazed that 75% of the members polled think it's either superb or good.

We recognize excellent quality when we hear it!  8) Invisible is a Classic!

Fair do's.  I'm just amazed is all.

I don't find it that surprising - an ok u2 song is always going to get talked up by superfans especially in the immediate aftermath of its release....
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 03:07:16 PM
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I'm amazed that 75% of the members polled think it's either superb or good.



It's a new U2 song on a U2 fan forum. It doesn't matter that they had released today, many here would love it 'cause it's new U2. Let it set in and we'll see in a few years how many feel it is superb.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 03:08:56 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished

Take the "pop" out of it and I think it would have the potential to be great. I'd love to hear how U2 in the late '80's would have done this song.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 03:15:10 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished

Take the "pop" out of it and I think it would have the potential to be great. I'd love to hear how U2 in the late '80's would have done this song.

It really was a different band back then.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: an tha on February 02, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished

Take the "pop" out of it and I think it would have the potential to be great. I'd love to hear how U2 in the late '80's would have done this song.

Yeah - I said this earlier - it could be a very good song, but they have polished away at it (it sounds to me) to make it "mainstream" and that hurts it - i'd also much like to hear the original lyrics, which sound like they tell a story that could be interesting...... i have listened to it a couple more times tonight and I like it a bit more than i did - and defo more than OL, which I actually despise.

I'd be interested to hear a longer version of this a bit less poppy and one where they sort that ending out
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 03:20:04 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished

Take the "pop" out of it and I think it would have the potential to be great. I'd love to hear how U2 in the late '80's would have done this song.

It really was a different band back then.



Is it me or are they pushing Larry and Adam to the background with the last few songs (Invisible and Ordinary Love) ? That's why I wonder how this would sound if they had recorded it back in the late 80's. Bring Mr. Mullen Jr back please.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 03:20:45 PM
Yeah the original lyrics with mention of Waterloo Station bring the song alive a bit more.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 02, 2014, 03:21:34 PM
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I voted average. I find the music kind of grating. The electric saw noise is bad and the song is better in the parts without it. The lyrics are good. I've listened to it five times and I'm just not feeling it.

I've listened to it w/ headphones and w/o, on iTunes and on Youtube, probably about 1 times now. It's growing and the thing I still don't care for is the electric saw noise, or maybe it's a hyped up dental drill?  :o  ;)

Guitar is Coldplay starting at 1:00 and truly Killersesque at 2:37. Other than that, it's somewhat Edgelike. Now to rid it of that saw/drill thing!

The latter guitar part reminds me of the killers when we were young

The whole song has a killers vibe to it IMO

The more I hear it the more I think it would benefit from more urgent verses and if it wasnt quite so polished

Take the "pop" out of it and I think it would have the potential to be great. I'd love to hear how U2 in the late '80's would have done this song.

It really was a different band back then.



Is it me or are they pushing Larry and Adam to the background with the last few songs (Invisible and Ordinary Love) ? That's why I wonder how this would sound if they had recorded it back in the late 80's. Bring Mr. Mullen Jr back please.

Maybe it was their day off when the others recorded it.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 02, 2014, 03:22:57 PM
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Yeah the original lyrics with mention of Waterloo Station bring the song alive a bit more.



By the way TD, please don't change your picture. I can stare at Jacqueline Smith all day long.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 03:31:52 PM
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Yeah the original lyrics with mention of Waterloo Station bring the song alive a bit more.



By the way TD, please don't change your picture. I can stare at Jacqueline Smith all day long.

Gorgeous woman!!

Could be Larry's back problems and Adam is newly married. That would be enough for them to not be there or as in on things at the moment.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Streets on February 02, 2014, 03:52:01 PM
I quite like it. While overall it's uplifting only in a sort of generic "poppy" way, and the verses as Bono sings them don't seem to have much of a melody, I find myself listening to this on repeat. Personally, a very welcome addition to the U2 catalog. It has the potential to be a "hit," and it was already trending on Facebook earlier.

That said, we might be over-analyzing this song. We could randomly pick any U2 song, even those considered excellent by most, and nitpick all day. If Invisible were just another song on the new album (as Bono said it will be), not released as a one-off (as we're treating it), the general consensus, mine included, might be a bit more favorable than it is now.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: ZooClothes on February 02, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
I know what it DOESN'T sound like......a band of dudes in their 50s mailing it in.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: KenpoMatt on February 02, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
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I know what it DOESN'T sound like......a band of dudes in their 50s mailing it in.
This. Like the song or not, there is some effort on this round IMO.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Rocksingerfan on February 02, 2014, 04:54:29 PM
The song is superb. Loving the melody and Bono is in good form. Excited for the new album :)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: missey on February 02, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
Love it, way better than Ordinary Love.  So is that really a drum machine and not Larry?  I'm not very musically inclined so I can't really tell the difference.  Why would they do that and not use Larry?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Big Girls Are Best on February 02, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Based on this offering, I'm not holding out much hope for the new album (if they ever decide to release it). On the bright side, at least the download was free.

PS - I know TUC has missed me, so this is for you...

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Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: zootoo on February 02, 2014, 05:17:34 PM
listened 3 times, I think the song is absolutely brilliant. I find it baffling hearing the accusations of copying Coldplay and The Killers considering those 2 have been so heavily influenced by U2. Compare Edges solo in 'Miracle Drug' to the solo in 'When we were young' for example. Really cant understand any reason to be negative about this tune. If this was discovered as an outtake like Mercy then it would soon achieve cult status with people screaming "I cant believe this has not been released' etc.

bring on the new album.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: BringCitrus on February 02, 2014, 05:59:50 PM
I like but am not over-the-moon about the song. My major critical reason being... it took you 6 years to come up with this?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: satellitedog01 on February 02, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
"Good"

The best thing about this is that I'm once again interested in hearing a new album by the guys. I like the sound, I like the synth-guitar stuff and the overall thematic.

The worst thing about it is I can't say I'm blown away by it. Good is sill the enemy of great.

It is a lot more agreeable than Ordinary Love, but that still only takes it to the level of some of the better songs off Bomb.

Glad they released it.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 02, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
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"Good"

The best thing about this is that I'm once again interested in hearing a new album by the guys. I like the sound, I like the synth-guitar stuff and the overall thematic.

The worst thing about it is I can't say I'm blown away by it. Good is sill the enemy of great.

It is a lot more agreeable than Ordinary Love, but that still only takes it to the level of some of the better songs off Bomb.

Glad they released it.

I agree with most of this. The funny thing is, I wouldn't even say the song is dramatically *better* than OL, but I'd say it's far more *interesting* than OL, and makes me much more interested in the album and in how they follow this up.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: satellitedog01 on February 02, 2014, 06:25:31 PM
I just hope they created a real album that flows well and creates a world, where this song has its place.

And they put a lot more thought into this song than OL, especially with this being an edit, which are sometimes clumsy.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 06:31:18 PM
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I like but am not over-the-moon about the song. My major critical reason being... it took you 6 years to come up with this?

More like 6 weeks or mos. They are not together making music most of the time.  :(
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Big Girls Are Best on February 02, 2014, 06:36:17 PM
Is that annoying sound a vuvuzela or kazoo?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Bundang Dave on February 02, 2014, 06:40:11 PM
To me it sounds like the same old 00s U2. Which isn't bad . . . but isn't good either. For me, it's just average.

Invisible is more of Bono trying too hard to inspire people with very direct and accessible lyricism while the band plays formulaic pop-rock. It'll do for when I'm in the mood for that type of song, along with Beautiful Day, City of Blinding Lights, and Ordinary Love, but I'm not in that particular mood very often.

I do like the sound of the guitars, and I'm glad they have abandoned the cliche Eno strings for this type of song.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: johno11 on February 02, 2014, 06:42:35 PM
Hey at least it's better then GOYB's  ;)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Bundang Dave on February 02, 2014, 06:44:40 PM
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Hey at least it's better then GOYB's  ;)

I much prefer GOYB, though I know my appreciation of that track puts my in the minority around here.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: AJ on February 02, 2014, 08:11:56 PM
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Hey at least it's better then GOYB's  ;)

I much prefer GOYB, though I know my appreciation of that track puts my in the minority around here.
I actually like GOYB and actually was one of the first U2 songs I liked but I wouldn't rate it over Invisible
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Manos73 on February 02, 2014, 08:14:07 PM
So is that a drum machine?  Where's Larry?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Doc_Holiday on February 02, 2014, 08:37:58 PM
I don't even like Get on Your Boots but I think it's a better song than Invisible...
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Streets on February 02, 2014, 09:12:56 PM
After the umpteenth listen, it's a grower. The lyrics are simple, but, after thinking about them more, they're really good. Another happy U2 fan today.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: THRILLHO on February 02, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
i'd classify this as a grower and that's great. Zooropa and Boy were growers to me and Zooropa rose up in my rankings over the past year to #3.

Invis. stuck in my head far more than OL ever did.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Exile on February 02, 2014, 10:07:17 PM
I offered some thoughts on the lyrics here:

http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,22803.0.html
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mofo_spacejunk on February 02, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
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Just had 2 listens on the ipod. . . It does not quite go where it promises to. . A better ending would help. . Bono's singing is decent in the main - a very ropey 'them' near the end though!

Is it the sound of 'the worlds greatest rock and roll band' at the very top of their game? No.

Is it a song that is a jaw dropping belter with something that makes it sound epic? No.

Its a decent song that i feel could be better for a bit more 'power' and as i say a better ending.

It's average for me - just missing good for being a bit lightweight and that ending which had they turned into a powerful explosive coda would have pushed it into good territory for me.

It almost sounds restrained/unfinished - which may be the edit just curtailing it.

It just falls short of lift off and needs a bit more fire.

Not terrible, not great - just average.... And the more i hear the more it reminds me of the killers.

Interestingly the next song on my ipod was arcade fires wake up - which eclipses invisible totally.

6.5/10

Arcade Fire just about eclipses anything U2 has done, let alone Invisible.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: jdoyle on February 02, 2014, 10:22:55 PM
I have listened to it alot today. I am a fan from way back. Dublin born, U2's music has accompanied me through my life. I am always eager to hear what they will do next.

I voted "good" But at this stage of their career, is good good enough? My expectations are low for U2 these days. I got tired of the hype with every U2 album of the last ten years. "This is the album we have waited our whole life to make" , "Edge is on fire" etc.

I had high hopes for NLOTH, and was very let down. So I am very cautious. But I am still listening to this song unlike "Get on your boots" which was just awful.  It is deceptively catchy and accessible, but there are layers there which deserve more listening. I much prefer the ideas of the original lyrics ( on the making of video on the U2 Facebook page) , and they fit the sound of the song so much better than the final result, but it overall still fits.

So I am still divided. I like it, it is good, but not superb. And U2 need an album now which is up there with their best. Otherwise I really think they should call it a day.

So does it make me excited about the new album? A cautious yes. We shall see.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 10:25:24 PM
MofoSJ-  AF?  :o
Positively not! Anything? Think again or at all! ;)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: surit87 on February 02, 2014, 10:34:51 PM
I voted 'good', it had Bono's passion written all over it. Casual fans will dig it. As for me, I'm looking for nothing short of a 'superb' song and I hope the album will provide that.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mofo_spacejunk on February 02, 2014, 10:36:01 PM
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MofoSJ-  AF?  :o
Positively not! Anything? Think again or at all! ;)

Sorry that should've read Wake Up eclipses .... and not AF

I reckon that Wake Up is better than 95% of U2 songs. It's my fav AF song by far, because I have attached a lot of personal sentimentality to it.

I think there are only 15 or so U2 songs I like more than Wake Up.

Don't worry, I like U2 more than AF. AF have one great album Funeral, two okay albums Reflektor and Suburbs and one average = Neon Bible.

U2 has [IMO] 5 great albums [UF, JT, AB, Zooropa, Pop] and the rest are good or average [aside from October].
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 02, 2014, 10:40:37 PM
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MofoSJ-  AF?  :o
Positively not! Anything? Think again or at all! ;)

Sorry that should've read Wake Up eclipses .... and not AF

I reckon that Wake Up is better than 95% of U2 songs. It's my fav AF song by far, because I have attached a lot of personal sentimentality to it.

I think there are only 15 or so U2 songs I like more than Wake Up.

Don't worry, I like U2 more than AF. AF have one great album Funeral, two okay albums Reflektor and Suburbs and one average = Neon Bible.

U2 has [IMO] 5 great albums [UF, JT, AB, Zooropa, Pop] and the rest are good or average [aside from October].
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Attachment is powerful. Much better understand your thoughts with this clarification. Thanks for taking the time to do that. :)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 02, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
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So is that a drum machine?  Where's Larry?

I think he's playing an part electric, part acoustic kit.

Still him, just sounds different  :)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: codeguy on February 02, 2014, 10:42:09 PM
It's a great song and a great video.....
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 02, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
Also, I'm really happy that people are divided on whether they like it or not. I haven't seen one comment which says "boring," which is great.

To me, it means the band is still capable of being interesting.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Milk/Korova_1 on February 03, 2014, 02:19:39 AM
I am sad to say I voted 'poor'. Being a U2 fan since the early nineties, I hold all their eighties and nineties output in high regard. Pop is one of my all time favourite albums, so you might say I am of the unpolished-experimental sound U2-tribe. No suprise NLOTH is my favourite U2 album from the 00's, and I was hoping the band would continue down this line of experimentation and broadening of their sound.

Ordinary Love was a sign they were on quite a different track and Invisible proves the more so. While it's a more interesting song than OL, I'm disappointed by the end product. As pointed out previously in this thread, it compares to The Killers and Coldplay, and not their better work per se. The song starts out promising and I like Edge's little guitar solo, but the overal feeling is a bland and forgettable song. The 'no them, only us' chorus feels like thrown in, the song lacks a decent build up. Bono's singing, again, seems out of sync with the music, it is mixed too much to the front. And finally, as with most of their work from the last decade, it feels very much over-produced.

Maybe the final album version will be better and longer, after all this is an edit for (RED). I'd like the new album to have more heart and less brain when it comes to the music. But with all the going back-and-forth production wise, reading even Dangermouse might be pulled out at the end fase, I have little hope left.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: imedi on February 03, 2014, 04:31:05 AM
gave it a listen..its good ..would not make my top 30 u2 songs
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 03, 2014, 05:05:42 AM
Some days you get up and look in the mirror and ask yourself: “Why me?”




Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Johnny Feathers on February 03, 2014, 07:26:28 AM
I listened to it a second time on my commute to work this morning.  I'm liking it--it seems to be a good post-2000 track.  It's still not really anything compared to their heyday, but if they're going to occupy that same "vaguely-uplifting" kind of space, they at least have a decent melody.  Also, comparison to Coldplay is not unwarranted.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 07:30:50 AM
Weird. I listened to it again this morning and I like it LESS.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: rexstardust on February 03, 2014, 08:05:06 AM
Not sure I can explain *why but I do like it more the more I listen to it.  The influences (Coldplay, Killers, Joy Division, etc.) are all stamped all over the song but I don't see that as a bad thing.  The production makes for a fresher sound - wiped away the "muddiness" which worked so well on AB but has run its course.  Bono's voice sounds excellent and I love that he's not straining into his higher register. 

For the most part, it seems to be what many of us expected (even if we hoped for something bold and epic).  It's a solid, COBL-style make-no-doubt-about-it U2 song.  My hope is the single they're holding back is the bold, epic song and that Invisible is the safe reintroduction. 

I voted GOOD. 
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 08:08:39 AM
I guess I'm in a minority on this one. This will be good for all the people who were whining for the last several years obviously. But it turns out I must like old skool U2 better.... Or I'm not ready to move with the band to this next level. I'm rather depressed.

I hope the Afghan Whigs don't disappoint me like this (they have a new release in April).
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: jick on February 03, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
U2 at their best and prrof they have turned their back on the horror that was the No Line On The Horizon album.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
I was wondering when Jick would show up. I feel like I conjured him.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Argo on February 03, 2014, 08:20:26 AM
I voted good. Pretty happy with this but not ecstatic. Most of all the song is interesting. OL was a bit dull even though ok. What I dont like is the outro. Would prefer that about 2/3rds thru after the face like snow line and then launch into the chorus so finishes on a high. Perhaps even delete the outro section completely. And even repeat "You dont see me but you will, I am not invisible, I am here" a couple of times. Then the song would be a soaring anthem. Am playing around on iTunes to cut up the song using multiple copies to see how it works out for fun. Whilst happy with the direction this seems to offer re the new album, would want a couple of much guitar heavier songs than this.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Johnny Feathers on February 03, 2014, 08:39:04 AM
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I guess I'm in a minority on this one. This will be good for all the people who were whining for the last several years obviously. But it turns out I must like old skool U2 better.... Or I'm not ready to move with the band to this next level. I'm rather depressed.

I hope the Afghan Whigs don't disappoint me like this (they have a new release in April).

It's funny, because as I found myself enjoying the tune the second time, it also occurred to me that pre and post 2000 U2 are basically two different bands--and that for the stuff I do like since then, it's enjoyable in a sort of generic way.  I don't know exactly why or how this is--if their approach to songwriting changed that much, if it's to do with Bono's changing voice, or what.  But that main riff--that synthy "there is no end" refrain--does kind of scream Coldplay, and Bono's delivery is interchangeable with Chris Martin's.

For better or worse, I think U2 is firmly where they have been for the past 14 years.  ATYCLB could basically be their "first album" at this point. 
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 08:43:48 AM
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I guess I'm in a minority on this one. This will be good for all the people who were whining for the last several years obviously. But it turns out I must like old skool U2 better.... Or I'm not ready to move with the band to this next level. I'm rather depressed.

I hope the Afghan Whigs don't disappoint me like this (they have a new release in April).

It's funny, because as I found myself enjoying the tune the second time, it also occurred to me that pre and post 2000 U2 are basically two different bands--and that for the stuff I do like since then, it's enjoyable in a sort of generic way.  I don't know exactly why or how this is--if their approach to songwriting changed that much, if it's to do with Bono's changing voice, or what.  But that main riff--that synthy "there is no end" refrain--does kind of scream Coldplay, and Bono's delivery is interchangeable with Chris Martin's.

For better or worse, I think U2 is firmly where they have been for the past 14 years.  ATYCLB could basically be their "first album" at this point.

Yeah, I guess. I'll just have to get used to it, I suppose.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Argo on February 03, 2014, 09:06:05 AM
U2 pre and post 1990 were very different bands too. People just tend to like the 1990s stuff far more than the post 2000 stuff. There has probably been 2 major transitions R&H to AB and Pop to ATYCLB and 1 or 2 other minor ones along the way. I suspect the next album is another minor transition, which I see as a good thing.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheRealEdge on February 03, 2014, 09:16:52 AM
Seriously thinking about NOT seeing the boys this tour if the album doesn't impress me.

Mind you, if the album was just meh then that would be the only time I would wish for a greatest hits tour.

I love the band, but I don't know if it's just that I'm getting older and have seen the best of U2 already or I'm just not that bothered anymore....hmmm

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: codeguy on February 03, 2014, 10:16:59 AM
Well, with a large sample size, I think this sums it up:

Good or Superb: 75.5%
Average: 16.6%
Disappointed: 8%

You're not going to get better than that on this forum! They could have written Where the streets have no name and 8% of the people on this forum wouldn't have liked it!!!!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: carvertronic on February 03, 2014, 11:40:24 AM
This song is b-side quality at best. I'm not sure Joy Division is a good sound for U2 and I sure as hell don't want to be reminded of The Killers or some radio friendly generic current pop act. I am certainly up for more electronic elements. I like the bass in the beginning and the frozen days, frozen ways, melted snow bit into the chorus, there's almost a real moment. Edge's guitar effect lick bugs me to no end and sounds damn cheesy. The end guitar, what is that? If U2 wants to become another band how about David Bowie, maybe update that a bit with some Duran Duran. I would like to hear something new, interesting and fresh sounding from U2, but this and Ordinary Love are going on a playlist of b-sides and outtakes from the last 3 albums where they will fit in perfectly. This is a version of U2 we have heard before. Give me Dirty Day(Junk Day), Salome(Zooromancer), Happiness Is A Warm Gun(The Gun), Night And Day(Steel Remix), its a great place to be.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: DKT on February 03, 2014, 11:47:20 AM
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Yeah the original lyrics with mention of Waterloo Station bring the song alive a bit more.



Yeah, I think I enjoy the original lyrics a bit more myself. Ah, well.

I had pretty high expectations. I don't think the song met them. The lyrics aren't quite connecting with me as much as I had hoped they would, but maybe that'll change. I don't mind the optimism of them, and maybe that'll cause them to grow on me.

As a whole, the song is growing on me. I really like the chorus. I don't like the drum machine that kicks things off. Bono sounds pretty strong to me. I like Bono's echoes bouncing around the background around the 1:30 mark.

I freaking LOVE the video, and the way Larry's drums seem to crackle at the beginning of that. It makes me think this could be an incredible song live - even though I know the concert was manufactured - the band seemed very energized, moreso than comes out in the edit of the song.

I think my one complaint is it's too short. I would love for it to go on for another couple of minutes. I don't think it quite hits its stride. I also wouldn't mind another verse connecting the lyrics to "There's no them, there's only us." Maybe there will be a longer version on the album?

I've listened to it 10+ times, and it's continuing to grow on me.

I'll call it good.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Doc_Holiday on February 03, 2014, 12:09:00 PM
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This song is b-side quality at best. I'm not sure Joy Division is a good sound for U2 and I sure as hell don't want to be reminded of The Killers or some radio friendly generic current pop act. I am certainly up for more electronic elements. I like the bass in the beginning and the frozen days, frozen ways, melted snow bit into the chorus, there's almost a real moment. Edge's guitar effect lick bugs me to no end and sounds damn cheesy. The end guitar, what is that? If U2 wants to become another band how about David Bowie, maybe update that a bit with some Duran Duran. I would like to hear something new, interesting and fresh sounding from U2, but this and Ordinary Love are going on a playlist of b-sides and outtakes from the last 3 albums where they will fit in perfectly. This is a version of U2 we have heard before. Give me Dirty Day(Junk Day), Salome(Zooromancer), Happiness Is A Warm Gun(The Gun), Night And Day, its a great place to be.
spot on, I completely agree... We have heard this before
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MyMindCanWander on February 03, 2014, 12:39:49 PM
I have to admit, first of all, that I've not been able to read all the posts in this topic.  However, from what I have read here, and elsewhere, my first observation is: haters gonna hate.

There does seem to be a lot of negativity on this forum.  It strikes me that there are some here who are going to be overly negative about whatever U2 release.  I seem to recall reading, variously, dire predictions that Bono would be singing "In-vis-a-ble" like "Mag-ni-fi-cent" (for some reason, they don't like this); that 'Invisible' would sound like everything else U2 have done recently; that they'd wish U2 would produce something different, unlike their previous offerings; and that everything they've done recently has been sub-standard (including 'No Line on the Horizon' - although the album did offer something experimental, it wasn't in the incredibly particular way that they seemed to want).  And I have no doubt that at least one or two of them will react  negatively to this post, claiming that they have the right to express their negativity.

I guess they do.  But it's getting a bit boring, isn't it?  If you don't like U2, why visit a forum dedicated to them?  Surely you don't think that the band are poring over your every whine, and going back and rewriting their album just to please you?  I rather hope not.

As Matt has written elsewhere, this offering combines enough of the non-standard U2 sound with the usual U2 sound to sound interesting.  To me, that is.  I guess that, again, it's not experimental enough for the haters.  The lyric sounds sufficiently personal and heart-wrenching to engage me.  I guess it's just trite to the haters?  I like the Edge's contribution (that is, the repeated eighth notes, and chiming 1sts and 5ths.  I noted an early hater's post that he couldn't even detect the Edge in the mix.  I guess that he was hearing what he wanted to hear).  And, as bassist, I like that low end rumble.  Even if it is sequenced.  And finally, for those who say that this early indication means that they're going to hate the album: I bet that the version of 'Invisible' that is on the album is going to be rather different to this version.  And I bet you'll hate that version, too.

So, there we go.  That's my opinion.  For all you haters: bring it on.  Or, even better, do what you've been promising: stop listening to U2, stop posting on here, and go and do something less boring, instead.  Boring to us, that is.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: guitarmart on February 03, 2014, 12:58:49 PM
It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheRealEdge on February 03, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
When you put your heroes on Babel-like pedestals then there's always going to be a long way to fall.

In some people's eyes U2 remain at the top.

Some think they have fallen.

Others have climbed the pedestals and flung them off.

:-|

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mstevensmcs on February 03, 2014, 01:10:26 PM
The single sounds like a publicity stunt (which raised significant money for a very good cause), probably has no relation to the other songs on the record, and was given away...if they're on their game, they won't put it on the record, as it's served it's purpose (i.e. they got something out). The band are in their classic "chop and change" mode and have pushed back the release another three months, which actually makes this fan of 32 years smile. It means they're trying to get it right. Who knows what this album is gonna sound like (if I get 5 great songs at this point I'll be happy). Somehow I don't think we'll be hearing "Invisible" much on tour, it really seems like a "trial balloon"...B did say it was there to remind people that they still exist.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: So Cruel on February 03, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.

A very good post. A lot of people will disagree with what you wrote but I think you hit the nail on the head for a lot of long time fans. Invisible is a good song, but where is the rock n roll? They used to compare songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Bullet the Blue Sky to the Who or the Clash, but like you said Invisible is about as aggressive and exciting as a Beyoncé song. While Invisible has it's place I just hope there is some more "rock" on the new album.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 03, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.

A very good post. A lot of people will disagree with what you wrote but I think you hit the nail on the head for a lot of long time fans. Invisible is a good song, but where is the rock n roll? They used to compare songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Bullet the Blue Sky to the Who or the Clash, but like you said Invisible is about as aggressive and exciting as a Beyoncé song. While Invisible has it's place I just hope there is some more "rock" on the new album.

In their time all those bands were contemporaries and were getting radio play. They don't get that anymore. The landscape has shifted. U2 shifts with it.

LIVE they are still that band. We'll be fine, fans. It's all gonna be all right.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mstevensmcs on February 03, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 


As a fellow musician, I know how you feel. It does seem as if Edge has become less "riff-centric" since "Pop"-and they may have altered the way they write together since then, in that Edge doesn't bring in as many riffs to kick things off. I just saw "It may Get Loud" last night, Edge came up with some nice aggressive guitar in the jam with Page and Black....hard to know what's causing it, maybe they're tired of arguing?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: TheRealEdge on February 03, 2014, 01:35:36 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.

A very good post. A lot of people will disagree with what you wrote but I think you hit the nail on the head for a lot of long time fans. Invisible is a good song, but where is the rock n roll? They used to compare songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Bullet the Blue Sky to the Who or the Clash, but like you said Invisible is about as aggressive and exciting as a Beyoncé song. While Invisible has it's place I just hope there is some more "rock" on the new album.

In their time all those bands were contemporaries and were getting radio play. They don't get that anymore. The landscape has shifted. U2 shifts with it.

LIVE they are still that band. We'll be fine, fans. It's all gonna be all right.

And if it's not they'll put on an amazing stage show and hide behind it.

U2 have got to be the reason people go to their concerts and not for the 'show'.

Zoo Tv and Pop had the 'show', but also had the 'songs' to back it up.



Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 03, 2014, 01:41:16 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.

A very good post. A lot of people will disagree with what you wrote but I think you hit the nail on the head for a lot of long time fans. Invisible is a good song, but where is the rock n roll? They used to compare songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Bullet the Blue Sky to the Who or the Clash, but like you said Invisible is about as aggressive and exciting as a Beyoncé song. While Invisible has it's place I just hope there is some more "rock" on the new album.

Never has the lead single ever really defined all of the music of said album, so keep that in mind and all. I'm sure there will be a bunch of great rock moments on the new album, after all, they are still a rock band at heart.

It wasn't that along ago we got some great riffs from them. The last album had Breathe, NLOTH, Magnificent, heck even Boots had a nice riff for the song it was.

I can understand why the generation you're a part of is still hesitant of electronic influences like the drum sounds Larry uses for the song, or the synth melody which dominates and does throughout. Its been a massive slow change in the music industry for the past few decades, and its become more prominent than ever. Sadly though, we'll never really hear a simple guitar, bass and drums song climb the charts anymore. The general public is looking for those electronic sounds, hence the dominance in the mainstream culture. Sometimes you'll get some rock up there, but the last rock song to reach those heights was Radioactive by Imagine Dragons, which is more electronic than rock. It was one of the reasons I never did get sick of Get Lucky by Daft Punk. Okay so it wasn't exactly a "rock" song, but it was a great riff by Nile Rodgers paired with a solid drumbeat and bass line, with Pharrell giving some feel good vocals. It felt nice to have a more organic sounding song up there.

The only thing I question is how Invisible compares to Beyonce. They are two completely different genres, and two completely different performers, with two completely different images. I guess the one parallel I see is the desire to get their music into the mainstream audience.

Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 03, 2014, 01:47:43 PM
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It's okay, but where are the riffs? Few and far between in that last decade or so.  All the classic U2 that they will be remembered for a long time from now had a riff: The Fly, Vertigo, New Year's Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday, I Will Follow, Streets, etc.  I can't tell you what this band has meant to my life, but I think I'm willing to admit that they just don't do it for me anymore, and haven't for years.  On the other hand, I'll admit that I've always liked U2 for things that are outdated now, like angry, aggressive songs. They haven't wanted to be that band for a long, long, time. I keep hoping for something as in your face as "Bullet the Blue Sky", but it ain't gonna happen. Rock bands are out of favor. And the rock band I loved is gone.  Songs used to begin like "The Fly", and now instead we get pretty little keyboard bells in the intros to several songs, and tepid electronic drums. Jesus, I need to listed to "Like a Song" just to cleanse my pallet. 
While "Invisible" is not a bad song, for me it carries about as much aggressive, exciting bombast as Beyonce, which is what the band wants, but obviously not my thing. I think the quest to stay relevant now feels to me like that guy at the bar in his early 50's with his shirt open and the chains around his neck, trying to impress the ladies. Everyone thinks he's sad, but we let U2 get away with it. 

Please don't take this too serious, it is just a post from an aging musician longing for something long gone. The world has moved on, and so has U2.  I just don't think it's for me anymore, and that's okay. just not my thing.

A very good post. A lot of people will disagree with what you wrote but I think you hit the nail on the head for a lot of long time fans. Invisible is a good song, but where is the rock n roll? They used to compare songs like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Bullet the Blue Sky to the Who or the Clash, but like you said Invisible is about as aggressive and exciting as a Beyoncé song. While Invisible has it's place I just hope there is some more "rock" on the new album.

In their time all those bands were contemporaries and were getting radio play. They don't get that anymore. The landscape has shifted. U2 shifts with it.

LIVE they are still that band. We'll be fine, fans. It's all gonna be all right.

And if it's not they'll put on an amazing stage show and hide behind it.

U2 have got to be the reason people go to their concerts and not for the 'show'.

Zoo Tv and Pop had the 'show', but also had the 'songs' to back it up.

Oh, you mean like it is for Muse, Coldplay, Nine Inch Nails, etc.

I didn't mean it was for the show. I mean I love them LIVE best. They can't really be judged fully until one hears them live and not on a CD, DVD, Bluray, laserdisc, etc.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Droo on February 03, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
Rubbish
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: mdmomof7 on February 03, 2014, 03:32:01 PM
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Rubbish

One man's trash....  ;)
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on February 03, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
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Rubbish

Really?  Interesting, considering your strong like of Ordinary Love
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: codeguy on February 03, 2014, 03:50:08 PM
Yeah I don't get how people can like OL more than I....IV....Invisible......now I get it....

IT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE AN ACRONYM OUT OF IT!!!!!
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Droo on February 03, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
Ordinary Love is sung with passion, I dig its roomy scaled-back production, and love the simple but pretty solo. It also has one of their best choruses ever.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Exile on February 03, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
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I have to admit, first of all, that I've not been able to read all the posts in this topic.  However, from what I have read here, and elsewhere, my first observation is: haters gonna hate.

There does seem to be a lot of negativity on this forum.  It strikes me that there are some here who are going to be overly negative about whatever U2 release.  I seem to recall reading, variously, dire predictions that Bono would be singing "In-vis-a-ble" like "Mag-ni-fi-cent" (for some reason, they don't like this); that 'Invisible' would sound like everything else U2 have done recently; that they'd wish U2 would produce something different, unlike their previous offerings; and that everything they've done recently has been sub-standard (including 'No Line on the Horizon' - although the album did offer something experimental, it wasn't in the incredibly particular way that they seemed to want).  And I have no doubt that at least one or two of them will react  negatively to this post, claiming that they have the right to express their negativity.

I guess they do.  But it's getting a bit boring, isn't it?  If you don't like U2, why visit a forum dedicated to them?  Surely you don't think that the band are poring over your every whine, and going back and rewriting their album just to please you?  I rather hope not.

As Matt has written elsewhere, this offering combines enough of the non-standard U2 sound with the usual U2 sound to sound interesting.  To me, that is.  I guess that, again, it's not experimental enough for the haters.  The lyric sounds sufficiently personal and heart-wrenching to engage me.  I guess it's just trite to the haters?  I like the Edge's contribution (that is, the repeated eighth notes, and chiming 1sts and 5ths.  I noted an early hater's post that he couldn't even detect the Edge in the mix.  I guess that he was hearing what he wanted to hear).  And, as bassist, I like that low end rumble.  Even if it is sequenced.  And finally, for those who say that this early indication means that they're going to hate the album: I bet that the version of 'Invisible' that is on the album is going to be rather different to this version.  And I bet you'll hate that version, too.

So, there we go.  That's my opinion.  For all you haters: bring it on.  Or, even better, do what you've been promising: stop listening to U2, stop posting on here, and go and do something less boring, instead.  Boring to us, that is.

I, for one, would request that you stop charging people with "hate."
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
The situation was completely flipped a few months ago when OL came out. Look around, there are more people on here who love Invisible than OL here. Now when a few people express that they don't like Invisible, we become the haters?! Whatever.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Exile on February 03, 2014, 04:36:28 PM
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The situation was completely flipped a few months ago when OL came out. Look around, there are more people on here who love Invisible than OL here. Now when a few people express that they don't like Invisible, we become the haters?! Whatever.

It's especially annoying coming from someone who's only posted like ten times. Online forum protocol dictates that you wrack up at least 20 posts before you start insulting everyone you disagree with.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: MarsGirl on February 03, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
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The situation was completely flipped a few months ago when OL came out. Look around, there are more people on here who love Invisible than OL here. Now when a few people express that they don't like Invisible, we become the haters?! Whatever.

It's especially annoying coming from someone who's only posted like ten times. Online forum protocol dictates that you wrack up at least 20 posts before you start insulting everyone you disagree with.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Unknown Caller on February 03, 2014, 05:54:35 PM
I suspect that (With many exceptions, of course) in general it is people who dislike the song who only see everyone else who dislikes it being called a 'hater' , and people who like the song who see everyone else who likes it being called a 'sheep' or whatever. I think most of us can agree both of those are silly labels. Yes, there are some people who appear to others to go out of their way to like everything U2 do now, and some people who appear to others to go out of their way to hate everything they do now (It is of course another story which group is larger but I don't think there's a big difference) but the overwhelming majority hold their opinions quite sincerely.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: The Exile on February 03, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
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I suspect that (With many exceptions, of course) in general it is people who dislike the song who only see everyone else who dislikes it being called a 'hater' , and people who like the song who see everyone else who likes it being called a 'sheep' or whatever. I think most of us can agree both of those are silly labels. Yes, there are some people who appear to others to go out of their way to like everything U2 do now, and some people who appear to others to go out of their way to hate everything they do now (It is of course another story which group is larger but I don't think there's a big difference) but the overwhelming majority hold their opinions quite sincerely.

Hear, hear.

PS - I like Electrical Storm. Typecast me now....
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Siberian Tiger on February 03, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
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I have to admit, first of all, that I've not been able to read all the posts in this topic.  However, from what I have read here, and elsewhere, my first observation is: haters gonna hate.

There does seem to be a lot of negativity on this forum.  It strikes me that there are some here who are going to be overly negative about whatever U2 release.  I seem to recall reading, variously, dire predictions that Bono would be singing "In-vis-a-ble" like "Mag-ni-fi-cent" (for some reason, they don't like this); that 'Invisible' would sound like everything else U2 have done recently; that they'd wish U2 would produce something different, unlike their previous offerings; and that everything they've done recently has been sub-standard (including 'No Line on the Horizon' - although the album did offer something experimental, it wasn't in the incredibly particular way that they seemed to want).  And I have no doubt that at least one or two of them will react  negatively to this post, claiming that they have the right to express their negativity.

I guess they do.  But it's getting a bit boring, isn't it?  If you don't like U2, why visit a forum dedicated to them?  Surely you don't think that the band are poring over your every whine, and going back and rewriting their album just to please you?  I rather hope not.

As Matt has written elsewhere, this offering combines enough of the non-standard U2 sound with the usual U2 sound to sound interesting.  To me, that is.  I guess that, again, it's not experimental enough for the haters.  The lyric sounds sufficiently personal and heart-wrenching to engage me.  I guess it's just trite to the haters?  I like the Edge's contribution (that is, the repeated eighth notes, and chiming 1sts and 5ths.  I noted an early hater's post that he couldn't even detect the Edge in the mix.  I guess that he was hearing what he wanted to hear).  And, as bassist, I like that low end rumble.  Even if it is sequenced.  And finally, for those who say that this early indication means that they're going to hate the album: I bet that the version of 'Invisible' that is on the album is going to be rather different to this version.  And I bet you'll hate that version, too.

So, there we go.  That's my opinion.  For all you haters: bring it on.  Or, even better, do what you've been promising: stop listening to U2, stop posting on here, and go and do something less boring, instead.  Boring to us, that is.

People don't like confrontation on here. They vigorously defend their right to defend their negativity. (They must be fans of Negtivland.) Attacking them will only grow weary after time. You will find like me, that they sadly do dominate the tone of this forum, and have led me to only be an infrequent interloper trying to stay on top of the news, but rarely bothering to interact on here, because it is very unrewarding. It's just not worth it.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 04, 2014, 02:35:50 AM
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I suspect that (With many exceptions, of course) in general it is people who dislike the song who only see everyone else who dislikes it being called a 'hater' , and people who like the song who see everyone else who likes it being called a 'sheep' or whatever. I think most of us can agree both of those are silly labels. Yes, there are some people who appear to others to go out of their way to like everything U2 do now, and some people who appear to others to go out of their way to hate everything they do now (It is of course another story which group is larger but I don't think there's a big difference) but the overwhelming majority hold their opinions quite sincerely.

Hear, hear.

PS - I like Electrical Storm. Typecast me now....

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Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Argo on February 04, 2014, 02:47:05 AM
Overall, the song does seem to be getting positive reactions, being played on radio, tons of downloads. U2 also won Globes and Oscar nominated for OL, so maybe they will feel confident that their new material does stack up and helps them close off this album asap. If Invisible is a market test for a bit of a direction shift, then it seems to have passed. Time to get on with it lads. As Bono said in From The Sky Down - eventually you have to show your willy. Which means, dont keep it "invisible".
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: sierrra on February 04, 2014, 03:38:57 AM
They do sound like U2. What do you expect them to sound?
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: singnomore on February 04, 2014, 08:13:52 AM
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I have to admit, first of all, that I've not been able to read all the posts in this topic.  However, from what I have read here, and elsewhere, my first observation is: haters gonna hate.

There does seem to be a lot of negativity on this forum.  It strikes me that there are some here who are going to be overly negative about whatever U2 release.  I seem to recall reading, variously, dire predictions that Bono would be singing "In-vis-a-ble" like "Mag-ni-fi-cent" (for some reason, they don't like this); that 'Invisible' would sound like everything else U2 have done recently; that they'd wish U2 would produce something different, unlike their previous offerings; and that everything they've done recently has been sub-standard (including 'No Line on the Horizon' - although the album did offer something experimental, it wasn't in the incredibly particular way that they seemed to want).  And I have no doubt that at least one or two of them will react  negatively to this post, claiming that they have the right to express their negativity.

I guess they do.  But it's getting a bit boring, isn't it?  If you don't like U2, why visit a forum dedicated to them?  Surely you don't think that the band are poring over your every whine, and going back and rewriting their album just to please you?  I rather hope not.

As Matt has written elsewhere, this offering combines enough of the non-standard U2 sound with the usual U2 sound to sound interesting.  To me, that is.  I guess that, again, it's not experimental enough for the haters.  The lyric sounds sufficiently personal and heart-wrenching to engage me.  I guess it's just trite to the haters?  I like the Edge's contribution (that is, the repeated eighth notes, and chiming 1sts and 5ths.  I noted an early hater's post that he couldn't even detect the Edge in the mix.  I guess that he was hearing what he wanted to hear).  And, as bassist, I like that low end rumble.  Even if it is sequenced.  And finally, for those who say that this early indication means that they're going to hate the album: I bet that the version of 'Invisible' that is on the album is going to be rather different to this version.  And I bet you'll hate that version, too.

So, there we go.  That's my opinion.  For all you haters: bring it on.  Or, even better, do what you've been promising: stop listening to U2, stop posting on here, and go and do something less boring, instead.  Boring to us, that is.

I suggest you refer to the forum rules around how you engage with people in and around the forum.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Johnny Feathers on February 04, 2014, 08:28:02 AM
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This song is b-side quality at best. I'm not sure Joy Division is a good sound for U2 and I sure as hell don't want to be reminded of The Killers or some radio friendly generic current pop act. I am certainly up for more electronic elements. I like the bass in the beginning and the frozen days, frozen ways, melted snow bit into the chorus, there's almost a real moment. Edge's guitar effect lick bugs me to no end and sounds damn cheesy. The end guitar, what is that? If U2 wants to become another band how about David Bowie, maybe update that a bit with some Duran Duran. I would like to hear something new, interesting and fresh sounding from U2, but this and Ordinary Love are going on a playlist of b-sides and outtakes from the last 3 albums where they will fit in perfectly. This is a version of U2 we have heard before. Give me Dirty Day(Junk Day), Salome(Zooromancer), Happiness Is A Warm Gun(The Gun), Night And Day, its a great place to be.

I totally get not digging the track--I'm of two minds on it, myself, though I find myself increasingly enjoying it.  But you lost me at the tracks you want them to sound like, when three of the four are remixes.

Also, I've seen Joy Division referenced a few times when discussing the new track--and I don't hear that at ALL.
Title: Re: Mixed Emotions About Invisible
Post by: Candysroom on February 04, 2014, 08:46:50 AM
I like the riff- based U2 and as a lady I don't mind the open-necked shirts. What I do treasure most about U2 is the joy and wonder expressed in song form.That has been in both of the new songs and that makes me hopeful for what's coming next.