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Title: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: A_Fly_On_The_Wall on February 17, 2014, 11:31:38 AM
Are there any music acts that you consider to be better than U2 when they play live?

If you do, who do you think is better?
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Post by: TheU2Ken on February 17, 2014, 11:42:46 AM
yes but Sprinsteen is pretty close
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 17, 2014, 11:51:08 AM
Prince and Bruce Springsteen are both artists of a similar generation and stature to U2 who are now putting on shows which blow the U2 of recent years out of the water, IMHO.  The Rolling Stones recent series of shows are more impressive than U2's on 360 and I felt the Stones Glastonbury gig (what I saw of it) was better than U2's.  I'm not that up on current acts, but I wouldn't bet on the U2 of recent years being a better live act than some of those.  Even Coldplay put on a great stadium show going by their gig in Paris a few years ago, and One Direction and Justin Timberlake are also great at what they do, according to Briscoe. 



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Post by: Edgedisciple on February 17, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
Without a doubt yes
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 17, 2014, 11:55:31 AM
All-time, I'd say they're in the top five of rock artists, along with the Stones, Led Zep, Prince and Springsteen.

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Post by: So Cruel on February 17, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
U2 gave the best show that I've ever seen, which was the arena Zoo TV, but while they are among the best live performers ever, I think they would rank behind Springsteen and the Who in their prime.

I first saw U2 in 1992, and have seen each tour multiple x since. I first saw Springsteen on the reunion tour in 2000 and have seen him multiple x since. Springsteen shows have been better in the last decade then U2 shows. I took my wife to 360 and to Springsteen's last tour. She is basically a common fan of each artist, knowing only their radio hits. Her reaction to 360 was it was a pretty good show. Her reaction to Springsteen was it was the best show she's ever seen.

The Who's reputation as a live band back in their prime is that they were the best. Even in their later years they blew every band out of the water on the concert for NY after 9/11. To young to have seen the original members but saw them in the late 80's, 90's, and 00's and they still put on a great concert.
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Post by: Thunder Peel on February 17, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
For me, yes. There are some incredible acts out there and I've seen some amazing shows, yet none of them have been able to touch me as deeply as U2.
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Post by: Saculniai on February 17, 2014, 12:35:36 PM
Yes, as at 100 a ticket (or nearing that now) its got to be about the 'show'. From song selection, through to making you feel special, to making you forget that you're one of many, to the stage setting - U2 have not been bettered since Zoo.

Rolling Stones are THE heritage band, Coldplay playing catch up, Bruce is same-old same-old, Led Zip 'novelty' due to lack of performances.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 17, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
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U2 Zoo TV has not been bettered since.

Fixed it 4 ya.

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Post by: eddyjedi on February 17, 2014, 12:43:35 PM
Stones probably shade it but in terms of what they've done with the live set up, yes.
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Post by: ehtaerb on February 17, 2014, 12:46:21 PM
Yes - end of!
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Post by: THRILLHO on February 17, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
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Stones probably shade it but in terms of what they've done with the live set up, yes.

i can agree with this. they are prob top 5 but i can't say they're the best period.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 17, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Zoo TV and PopMart were pretty special from a production point of view.

Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Doc_Holiday on February 17, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
Yes, without a doubt
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 17, 2014, 01:26:24 PM
Up until and including Elevation, I would say yes. Kinda let themselves down with Vertigo and 360.
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Post by: Jack on February 17, 2014, 01:57:16 PM
It was at the time of the elevation tour that I started to take an interest in U2 and then went on to watch vertigo tour and 360 and these for me are the best ones although I think most folk prefer zoo and pop mart their last three tours have been my favourites
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Post by: codeguy on February 17, 2014, 02:21:42 PM
Clearly, yes.

You can judge based on size (360 holds, and Vertigo did hold, the honor of largest tour in history) or on sheer amazement factor. When Mick Jaggar saw U2 on the Zoo TV tour, he said "They have permanently upped the ante. From this point forward, all bands will have to have better live performances. "

Since then, I'd say every tour has given the fans something special and new, and if the Barkar hangar video is anything to judge by, id say they have another gerat surprise in store.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
I think so
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Post by: satellitedog01 on February 17, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
Not since the end of Popmart, perhaps including some stand-out Elevation shows.
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Post by: Philaboy1971 on February 17, 2014, 02:55:56 PM
  U2 is my favorite band , so I am biased towards them, but   
I can look at it objectively.

 After watching the Sandy relief concert, seeing the Stones last year, and tuning in to the Grammy's tribute to the Beatles it's clear to me that sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  Bono is a great front man and they are probably the best rock band in the world who still release new material , but I'd have to say Mick Jagger is the greatest frontman in the history of live music. You could tell at the Rock and Roll Hall of fame show that Bono was pleasantly intimidated to share the stage with him, and that right there, says a lot.
Know one in Show Business can match his energy.

Some songs like Let it Be, Yesterday, and Hey Jude just have a greater mass appeal at this moment than some U2 songs. Even though the Beatles may not be together, when Paul McCartney still does these classics I think they might be the greatest live rock performances of all time.
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Post by: an tha on February 17, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
No - although they did put on for my money the greatest tour ever in zoo tv.

But u2 as a band havent got anywhere near the chops to be rated as the greatest live band of all time. They did put on some great shows though. . .
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Post by: Nico on February 17, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
U2 had the ability to do earth shattering performances up there with the very best - everyone knows that - the question is how consistently and how long have they been at this level. They have evidently made the most impact in the last 25 years at least
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Post by: THRILLHO on February 17, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
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  U2 is my favorite band , so I am biased towards them, but   
I can look at it objectively.

 After watching the Sandy relief concert, seeing the Stones last year, and tuning in to the Grammy's tribute to the Beatles it's clear to me that sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  Bono is a great front man and they are probably the best rock band in the world who still release new material , but I'd have to say Mick Jagger is the greatest frontman in the history of live music. You could tell at the Rock and Roll Hall of fame show that Bono was pleasantly intimidated to share the stage with him, and that right there, says a lot.
Know one in Show Business can match his energy.

Some songs like Let it Be, Yesterday, and Hey Jude just have a greater mass appeal at this moment than some U2 songs. Even though the Beatles may not be together, when Paul McCartney still does these classics I think they might be the greatest live rock performances of all time.

Freddie mercury is the greatest ever
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Post by: zootv on February 17, 2014, 05:29:19 PM
Absolutely. 
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Post by: Nico on February 17, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
"Absolute Greatest" is Queen's latest album
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Post by: Chip on February 17, 2014, 08:30:22 PM
As others have said, Springsteen often easily beats them for live performances. Still, both the Boss and U2 have the inestimable gift of connecting with audiences to an extraordinary degree. That's probably partially due to the messianic complex that Bruce believes he and Bono have in common. But I'd say that's also because all four members of U2 do their best to connect with everyone, given their limitations. 360 was great in that regard.

Where I think U2 really does win live is in pushing the envelope in terms of what a concert experience should be like. No matter how much we have to thank Willie Williams for this, the band has an amazing visual sense that seems unique to me among rock bands. As good as they are in more intimate venues, I think I prefer their big stadium shows where they let that powerful imagination really take flight.
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Post by: canucku2fan14 on February 17, 2014, 08:56:38 PM
I had to vote no. U2 comes close in second, after Muse.
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Post by: Shark Ericson on February 18, 2014, 12:15:00 AM
I would put The Stones, Zeppelin, and Bruce (in their primes) above U2 (at any point in their career), as far as greatest live acts of all time go
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Post by: surit87 on February 18, 2014, 01:49:39 AM
Yes, Zootv cannot be topped by any other band.
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Post by: RunningtoStandstill (The League of Extraordinary BonoPeople) on February 18, 2014, 02:34:46 AM
^ That.

ZooTv cannot be topped, and has not been topped, in terms of scale, concept, and execution. Not to mention it literally changed the world. And all modern touring. Not to mention there's no thing in the world that can compete with a live performance of Streets.
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Post by: marvgadgie on February 18, 2014, 03:00:25 AM
Of all the bands I've seen I've yet to see anyone top U2.
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Post by: thisrebelsong on February 18, 2014, 03:10:39 AM
For U2 have the advantage of songs that suit stadiums better than any one. Especially WTSHNN  & when they did zoo tv everyone has been trying to top that tour ever since including them. There best album best tour U2 at there best the prefect storm   
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Post by: marvgadgie on February 18, 2014, 03:13:25 AM
Yep. I agree. Zooropa in 93 was like nothing else I've seen before or since.
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Post by: Edgedisciple on February 18, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
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^ That.

ZooTv cannot be topped, and has not been topped, in terms of scale, concept, and execution. Not to mention it literally changed the world. And all modern touring. Not to mention there's no thing in the world that can compete with a live performance of Streets.

End of discussion.
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Post by: zootv on February 18, 2014, 07:44:38 AM
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^ That.

ZooTv cannot be topped, and has not been topped, in terms of scale, concept, and execution. Not to mention it literally changed the world. And all modern touring. Not to mention there's no thing in the world that can compete with a live performance of Streets.

End of discussion.

This
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Post by: hrsan on February 18, 2014, 08:12:53 AM
I have seen U2 3 times and the first time wasn't so good, the second time was phenomenal and the third time was just okay.  The greatest live music act for me is the Rolling Stones.  They blew me away both times I've seen them.   
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Post by: TheRealEdge on February 18, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
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^ That.

ZooTv cannot be topped, and has not been topped, in terms of scale, concept, and execution. Not to mention it literally changed the world. And all modern touring. Not to mention there's no thing in the world that can compete with a live performance of Streets.

End of discussion.

This

That.

But I think, with today's technology, the band could go one step further with more crowd interaction.

Okay they tried this with the lame-o 'text Bono' bo****ks on the last tour and Coldplay have already bagsied the 'fan with flashy light' thingy, but involving your fans is the way to go - then everyone can have a concert they feel they were a part of.

Maybe use the text thing again, but this time the crowd are texting their choice of encore songs - with 10 already chosen by the band (they need to rehearse them y'know) and the top 3 at that gig getting played. Okay, we'd most probably end up with WOWY, ISHFWILF and One at every gig ;-)

Another idea would be to take a photo of yourself (a selfie if you wish) during the concert and they upload all the photos as the background video to the last song before the encore - they already touched on this idea with the brief Unknown Caller idea.

How's about they do a lottery-type draw and pick a lucky fan's ticket number from a hat/beanie and that fan gets to go on stage for a song during the encore? And Zoo TV-esque they could video Bono which is live streamed to the screens.

Just a thought.


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Post by: Candysroom on February 18, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
Trophy is still with Springsteen for me
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Post by: AliSPNfan on February 19, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
I've seen some of the very best acts in music but U2 are way ahead everyone else, IMHO.The sheer joy of hearing U2's music live amidst an enthusiastic crowd is like nothing I've ever experienced.I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about 'Bad' live  :D         
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Post by: imedi on February 19, 2014, 11:16:12 AM
best i have seen by far... ab up to elevation tour since then energy levels have dropped.. to be fair it would not say much for them in the 80s and 90s if they had the same energy today...   springsteen , greenday, and rem are or were good live too but did not quite take it to the level u2 could..
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Post by: wclayton on February 19, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
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Prince and Bruce Springsteen are both artists of a similar generation and stature to U2 who are now putting on shows which blow the U2 of recent years out of the water, IMHO.  The Rolling Stones recent series of shows are more impressive than U2's on 360 and I felt the Stones Glastonbury gig (what I saw of it) was better than U2's.  I'm not that up on current acts, but I wouldn't bet on the U2 of recent years being a better live act than some of those.  Even Coldplay put on a great stadium show going by their gig in Paris a few years ago, and One Direction and Justin Timberlake are also great at what they do, according to Briscoe.

But Springsteen uses like a 10 piece band. U2 musically is primarily just 3 pieces with Bono on vocals. One Guitar, one bass guitar, and the drums. Look at the power they create with just that. It is very impressive! Barring occasional changes in Bono's voice, U2's sound live is just as good and energetic as it was at any time in their career!
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Post by: wclayton on February 19, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
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No - although they did put on for my money the greatest tour ever in zoo tv.

But u2 as a band havent got anywhere near the chops to be rated as the greatest live band of all time. They did put on some great shows though. . .

So who do you think is the greatest live band of all time?
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Post by: wclayton on February 19, 2014, 11:39:31 AM
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As others have said, Springsteen often easily beats them for live performances. Still, both the Boss and U2 have the inestimable gift of connecting with audiences to an extraordinary degree. That's probably partially due to the messianic complex that Bruce believes he and Bono have in common. But I'd say that's also because all four members of U2 do their best to connect with everyone, given their limitations. 360 was great in that regard.

Where I think U2 really does win live is in pushing the envelope in terms of what a concert experience should be like. No matter how much we have to thank Willie Williams for this, the band has an amazing visual sense that seems unique to me among rock bands. As good as they are in more intimate venues, I think I prefer their big stadium shows where they let that powerful imagination really take flight.

I'd easily take U2's Red Rocks show over any live show Springsteen has ever done.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 19, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
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Prince and Bruce Springsteen are both artists of a similar generation and stature to U2 who are now putting on shows which blow the U2 of recent years out of the water, IMHO.  The Rolling Stones recent series of shows are more impressive than U2's on 360 and I felt the Stones Glastonbury gig (what I saw of it) was better than U2's.  I'm not that up on current acts, but I wouldn't bet on the U2 of recent years being a better live act than some of those.  Even Coldplay put on a great stadium show going by their gig in Paris a few years ago, and One Direction and Justin Timberlake are also great at what they do, according to Briscoe.

But Springsteen uses like a 10 piece band. U2 musically is primarily just 3 pieces with Bono on vocals. One Guitar, one bass guitar, and the drums. Look at the power they create with just that. It is very impressive! Barring occasional changes in Bono's voice, U2's sound live is just as good and energetic as it was at any time in their career!

Springsteen does indeed. They're real musicians who create real music for real music lovers, nothing added, nothing taken away.  It's organic with no artificial preservatives.
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Post by: So Cruel on February 19, 2014, 12:53:32 PM
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As others have said, Springsteen often easily beats them for live performances. Still, both the Boss and U2 have the inestimable gift of connecting with audiences to an extraordinary degree. That's probably partially due to the messianic complex that Bruce believes he and Bono have in common. But I'd say that's also because all four members of U2 do their best to connect with everyone, given their limitations. 360 was great in that regard.

Where I think U2 really does win live is in pushing the envelope in terms of what a concert experience should be like. No matter how much we have to thank Willie Williams for this, the band has an amazing visual sense that seems unique to me among rock bands. As good as they are in more intimate venues, I think I prefer their big stadium shows where they let that powerful imagination really take flight.

I'd easily take U2's Red Rocks show over any live show Springsteen has ever done.

Springsteen fans would point to the legendary Hammersmith Odeon London show '75 or the '78 shows from Tucson, LA or the recorded Houston show, the '80 shows from Nassau Coliseum, all the way to the reunion shows in 2000 captured in live from NY. All these shows can match or beat Red Rocks and I'm actually a pretty big fan of the Red Rock show.
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Post by: Johnny Feathers on February 19, 2014, 03:00:52 PM
I'm sure not, though they've certainly put on some of the best shows I've seen--certainly my favorite, being Zoo TV.

It's impossible to say conclusively, but I'd say Queen are a possibility.
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Post by: codeguy on February 19, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



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Post by: So Cruel on February 19, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 19, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.

Exactly I don't like it when greatness is judged by stats. Grammy awards, album sales, number 1 hits, concert attendance figures - just ridiculous.

I Love Neutral Milk Hotel, only two albums, not sold very well and certainly only seen live by a few thousand people (if that). Does it mean I enjoy the music less, heck no.

Achtung Baby and Pop sold a heck of a lot less copies than The Joshua Tree, never won Grammy's, and imho are both infinitely more enjoyable.

Payton Manning will probably end his career with only one Superbowl. Probably the best QB to ever play the game.
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Post by: So Cruel on February 19, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.

Exactly I don't like it when greatness is judged by stats. Grammy awards, album sales, number 1 hits, concert attendance figures - just ridiculous.

I Love Neutral Milk Hotel, only two albums, not sold very well and certainly only seen live by a few thousand people (if that). Does it mean I enjoy the music less, heck no.

Achtung Baby and Pop sold a heck of a lot less copies than The Joshua Tree, never won Grammy's, and imho are both infinitely more enjoyable.

Payton Manning will probably end his career with only one Superbowl. Probably the best QB to ever play the game.

Haha, that's taking it a bit to far. Best regular season QB, but far from the best QB to ever play. Fun fact. In the 3 Super Bowls Manning has played, he has 3 TD's to 6 INTs. Montana has 11 TDs to 0 INTs. Brady has 9 TDS to 2 INTs. Some guys just play better in the big games.
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 19, 2014, 04:12:58 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.

Exactly I don't like it when greatness is judged by stats. Grammy awards, album sales, number 1 hits, concert attendance figures - just ridiculous.

I Love Neutral Milk Hotel, only two albums, not sold very well and certainly only seen live by a few thousand people (if that). Does it mean I enjoy the music less, heck no.

Achtung Baby and Pop sold a heck of a lot less copies than The Joshua Tree, never won Grammy's, and imho are both infinitely more enjoyable.

Payton Manning will probably end his career with only one Superbowl. Probably the best QB to ever play the game.

Haha, that's taking it a bit to far. Best regular season QB, but far from the best QB to ever play. Fun fact. In the 3 Super Bowls Manning has played, he has 3 TD's to 6 INTs. Montana has 11 TDs to 0 INTs. Brady has 9 TDS to 2 INTs. Some guys just play better in the big games.

I think Montana was better yes, Brady no. Brady had a better all round team supporting him, and remember all 3 of his Superbowl wins were within 3 points - so close to failure. If it wasn't for his teams defense and the kickers, he would not have 3 rings. IMHO of course.

If the Colts had better defenses the whole time Manning was there, i think he would have about 3-4 rings by now.

Err, wow, that's completely off topic. Back to U2 being the best live act :)
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Post by: imedi on February 19, 2014, 04:15:40 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.
got to agree love springsteen but no concert i have been at of his gets near zoo tv... took me 3 months to come down after that  zoo concert.. as for the one stones concert i was at ..well it was just ok ,that said they were old
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Post by: imedi on February 19, 2014, 04:28:05 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.
yea but i doubt if bieber or cyrus will do it 30 years into their existence
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Rodney T-M on February 19, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
Queen is so freaking overrated live. Mercury's voice was never half as good live as on record, and he'd generally skip out on the high notes, which takes away half the fun of a live band with a good singer. Springsteen and Bono were both impressively daring vocally live during their peaks.
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Post by: So Cruel on February 19, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.

Exactly I don't like it when greatness is judged by stats. Grammy awards, album sales, number 1 hits, concert attendance figures - just ridiculous.

I Love Neutral Milk Hotel, only two albums, not sold very well and certainly only seen live by a few thousand people (if that). Does it mean I enjoy the music less, heck no.

Achtung Baby and Pop sold a heck of a lot less copies than The Joshua Tree, never won Grammy's, and imho are both infinitely more enjoyable.

Payton Manning will probably end his career with only one Superbowl. Probably the best QB to ever play the game.

Haha, that's taking it a bit to far. Best regular season QB, but far from the best QB to ever play. Fun fact. In the 3 Super Bowls Manning has played, he has 3 TD's to 6 INTs. Montana has 11 TDs to 0 INTs. Brady has 9 TDS to 2 INTs. Some guys just play better in the big games.

I think Montana was better yes, Brady no. Brady had a better all round team supporting him, and remember all 3 of his Superbowl wins were within 3 points - so close to failure. If it wasn't for his teams defense and the kickers, he would not have 3 rings. IMHO of course.

If the Colts had better defenses the whole time Manning was there, i think he would have about 3-4 rings by now.

Err, wow, that's completely off topic. Back to U2 being the best live act :)

If you lead the greatest regular season offense and then only put up 3 tds to 6 ints in the Super Bowls that has nothing to do with your Defense. It means your not playing as well in the big game. But you are right, this isn't the football thread.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: So Cruel on February 19, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
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Queen is so freaking overrated live. Mercury's voice was never half as good live as on record, and he'd generally skip out on the high notes, which takes away half the fun of a live band with a good singer. Springsteen and Bono were both impressively daring vocally live during their peaks.

So what you are saying is that if we equate music to football then:

Freddie Mercury = Peyton Manning: Great voice on record, not so great vocally live/Great regular season QB, not so great in the playoffs.

Bono = Tom Brady: Awesome on record and live (in his prime). His performances couldn't be beat back in the day./ Great regular season QB and great in the playoffs (although not as much now as when he was younger).

Springsteen = Joe Montana: Great on records but live is where he's a legend/ Great in the regular season but became legendary because of his post season performances.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 19, 2014, 06:34:02 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.

Exactly I don't like it when greatness is judged by stats. Grammy awards, album sales, number 1 hits, concert attendance figures - just ridiculous.

I Love Neutral Milk Hotel, only two albums, not sold very well and certainly only seen live by a few thousand people (if that). Does it mean I enjoy the music less, heck no.

Achtung Baby and Pop sold a heck of a lot less copies than The Joshua Tree, never won Grammy's, and imho are both infinitely more enjoyable.

Payton Manning will probably end his career with only one Superbowl. Probably the best QB to ever play the game.

Haha, that's taking it a bit to far. Best regular season QB, but far from the best QB to ever play. Fun fact. In the 3 Super Bowls Manning has played, he has 3 TD's to 6 INTs. Montana has 11 TDs to 0 INTs. Brady has 9 TDS to 2 INTs. Some guys just play better in the big games.

I think Montana was better yes, Brady no. Brady had a better all round team supporting him, and remember all 3 of his Superbowl wins were within 3 points - so close to failure. If it wasn't for his teams defense and the kickers, he would not have 3 rings. IMHO of course.

If the Colts had better defenses the whole time Manning was there, i think he would have about 3-4 rings by now.

Err, wow, that's completely off topic. Back to U2 being the best live act :)

If you lead the greatest regular season offense and then only put up 3 tds to 6 ints in the Super Bowls that has nothing to do with your Defense. It means your not playing as well in the big game. But you are right, this isn't the football thread.

The reason they lost the Superbowl was nothing to do with Manning. He simply, nor the rest of his team, were shut out. They were not allowed to play. Seattle were too good in all facets of the game and totally shut everyone down. Who was Manning supposed to throw too? The only TD he threw - a fantastic pass to Thomas in triple coverage.

Ha Ha, So Cruel - we have turned this into a football discussion - lets quit now. people will hate. :)
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Rodney T-M on February 19, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
Perfect analogy, So Cruel. And Brady and Montana, in that order, happen to be my two favorite QBs of all time (though I'm neither from NE or SF!).
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: codeguy on February 19, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.
True. But I don't think you can become the most successful live act in history if you suck.
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Post by: imedi on February 20, 2014, 05:43:59 AM
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I have been to see Springsteen several times, and I will go to see him in Florida in April on the new Tour, but for me, U2 wins. The audience agrees. U2's last tour was seen by 7.3 million people, Bruces was seen by 3.5 million.



The number of people that see a show has nothing to do with the actual quality of the show. Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus can probably sell more tickets then most artists, doesn't mean their shows are as good.
True. But I don't think you can become the most successful live act in history if you suck.
true im even shocked the number of no votes here is 16..either most of those 16 never saw the zoo tour or the shows they  saw u2 were sub par..
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: codeguy on February 20, 2014, 07:28:07 AM
I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 20, 2014, 01:36:07 PM
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
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Post by: imedi on February 20, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 20, 2014, 01:54:36 PM
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The number of tickets sold does not in any way reflect how good the live show/act is.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 20, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The Rolling Stones have sold more concert tickets than any other act in history.

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Post by: codeguy on February 20, 2014, 04:26:47 PM
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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The Rolling Stones have sold more concert tickets than any other act in history.


I don't think there's anything definitive on that, but I would say it's probably true.

However, it's also true that the Rolling Stones are done, and if U2 continues to tour until they are in their 70's like Rolling Stones they will easily surpass the Rolling Stones figures.....

U2's figures are somewhere around 32-33 Million.

Early shows, 1978-1982 including festivals: 1,000,000+
WAR tour: Not well documented, including festivals somewhere north of 1,500,000+
Unforgettable Fire tour: Not well documented, probably 2,000,000+
Conspiracy of hope: 300,000
Joshua tree: 3,100,000
Lovetown: Not well documented, about 1,000,000
Zoo TV: 5,300,000
Popmart: 3,900,000
Elevation: 2,300,000
Vertigo: 4,600,000
360: 7,200,000

TOTAL: 32.1 Million

 and i'm sure the next tour will be another 5-6 million, so that puts them somewhere in the 37-38 million mark. As you can see from below data, Rolling Stones are at about 41 Million, so U2 would need one more tour after this one to overtake them on raw numbers. Of course, these numbers are sketchy at best.

Here's what I can find on Rolling Stones: The early stuff is very sketchy, assuming 15,000 average indoor show, 40,000 average outdoor show, could be way off.

1964 dates: No data, probably 500,000
1965 America/Europe tour: No data, probably 2,000,000
1966 Europe/US/UK tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1967 Europe Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1968 Hyde Park: varying estimates 300,000
1969 American Tour: No data, probably 500,000
1970 Europe tour, no data probably 600,000
1972 American/UK Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1973 Pacific Tour: No data, probably 200,000
1973 European tour: No data, probably 800,000
1975 American Tour: No data, probably 1,600,000
1976 European tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1978 American Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1981 Americna Tour: 3,000,000
1982 European Tour: No data, probably about 1,800,000
Steel wheels: 3,200,000
Voodoo Lounge: 6,300,000
Bridges to babylon: 4,000,000+ Not well documented
No Security: No data, probably about 1,000,000
Licks: 3,700,000
Bigger Bang: 4,600,000
50 and counting: 300,000+

TOTAL: 40.8 Million (Compares to U2's 32.1 Million)
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Borack on February 20, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
This is an interesting thread, but I'm one of the folks that voted no.

I've only seen U2 in four tours and I missed seeing the ZooTV tour, but I've seen more ebuliant or memorable performances by Queen, Bowie, Springsteen, Midnight Oil and arguably even Coldplay.

If I used the same criteria as other members, I might place U2 in a higher level, but to suggest that they're the greatest live act OF ALL TIME seems like too much of a stretch. Particularly if one considers bands like the Beatles, the Stones, the Clash and even INXS or Prince. Great yes, preeminent no. Be well. 
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 20, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
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1964 dates: No data, probably 500,000
1965 America/Europe tour: No data, probably 2,000,000
1966 Europe/US/UK tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1967 Europe Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1968 Hyde Park: varying estimates 300,000
1969 American Tour: No data, probably 500,000
1970 Europe tour, no data probably 600,000
1972 American/UK Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000
1973 Pacific Tour: No data, probably 200,000
1973 European tour: No data, probably 800,000
1975 American Tour: No data, probably 1,600,000
1976 European tour: No data, probably 1,500,000
1978 American Tour: No data, probably 1,200,000

These figures totally overestimate their ticket sales on those tours.


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1981 American Tour: 3,000,000
1982 European Tour: No data, probably about 1,800,000

Total for both tours was 3.8 Million

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Steel wheels: 3,200,000

Total for the Steel Wheels North American and Japanese tour + the Urban Jungle European Tour were 6 Million

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Voodoo Lounge: 6,300,000

Total was 6.6 Million

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Bridges to babylon: 4,000,000+ Not well documented

Total 4.75 Million

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No Security: No data, probably about 1,000,000

No Security North American arena tour + remaining 13 BTB European shows = 1.2 Million

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Licks: 3,700,000

3.2 Million

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Bigger Bang: 4,600,000

Accurate

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50 and counting: 300,000+

Underestimation

Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: An Cat Dubh on February 20, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
So you are all judging greatness by attendance numbers.

***sigh
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 20, 2014, 05:23:33 PM
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So you are all judging greatness by attendance numbers.

***sigh

Not at all, but it shouldn't really come as a surprise that the two greatest bands of all time (which have consistently toured over decades, so not including The Beatles or Led Zeppelin) have sold the most concert tickets.

Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 20, 2014, 05:56:27 PM
I voted no, mostly because of one single word.

"The"

Are they one of the greatest live music acts of all time? Sure. Especially their shows from the Joshua Tree tour to Elevation. Zoo Tv and Popmart were revolutionary in terms of the live concert experience, and still are.

Are they The greatest live music act of all time? No, because I feel like there isn't a single band who should hold that title on their own.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: satellitedog01 on February 20, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Yeah, that "the" belongs to maniacs.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on February 20, 2014, 06:19:35 PM
You should see me on the dancefloor.

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I think there is no doubt U2 is the best live act in History. Every tour is special and this one won't be different

Codeguy, that's a poor statement. In you opinion it is true, but there are millions of people on this planet who are fans of so many other bands that would argue that.

Like I said earlier, through the 80's and 90's for sure and Elevation was awesome, but I'm afraid the last two tours do not even come close to previous U2's tours, or other bands for that matter.
very true thats why u can never have any real result when it comes to who is the best in music,,  but as a live act given the amount of tickets sold over so many years its hard to argue against u2 other than that its all down to ones own opinion

The number of tickets sold does not in any way reflect how good the live show/act is.
lol now i cant agree with that...thats like saying the sales of coke as a drink can not in any way reflect the popularity of the drink over 100 years...i dont see how u can use any other measure but time at the top and sales after that its just down to personal opinion.....i may not like coke but i cant argue as a drink with those world sales figures . its been a world hit ..TD is also correct the stones have over time sold more tickets than anyone so they  for the exact same reason would be among the best live acts ever.although i would expect  over time if u2 keep going they will overtake them
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: hrsan on February 21, 2014, 04:04:29 AM
Like I said before, it's all subjective.  One person's greatest show is another person's worse show.  You cannot prove an opinion.  Does U2 have millions of fans?  Yes.  So does Iron Maiden whose fans would argue they are the greatest live act ever.  There are those who would think Nickelback are the greatest live act ever.  If U2 toured every single year, and hit smaller markets, it could be a different story.

The three U2 shows I've been to, one was awful, one was phenomenal and the other was okay.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: briscoetheque on February 21, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
Well obviously I'd vote for one direction and Justin timberlake.
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Post by: surit87 on February 21, 2014, 11:25:48 PM
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Well obviously I'd vote for one direction and Justin timberlake.

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... until U2's new album comes out.
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Post by: Nico on February 22, 2014, 03:07:20 AM
Zoo tv was the sgt. pepper of live shows to many fans and critics.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: A_Fly_On_The_Wall on February 23, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
I set up this thread almost a week ago and, so far, 19 people have voted "no" to my question.

I'm intrigued to find out who they believe to be the greatest live music act of all time if it isn't U2 (and if they actually think there could be band or artist worthy of that title).

I am, also, fascinated by reading all of the comments so far on this thread. You all have great opinions and logic behind your own ideas, so keep it up  ;)
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Post by: satellitedog01 on February 23, 2014, 05:29:04 PM
The thing with people is, you can't pinpoint a definitive GREATEST LIVE ACT EVER, as tastes and variations in performance will dictate differing answers even from the same person.

Some of the great live acts are unknown to the majority of people, for example non-English speaking performers, and there are many well known AND great live acts who you can only rank based on personal preference.

I think the best thing about is that you get to expand your knowledge and basis of judgement, and can keep your mind and taste fresh.

Another thought that occured is, one will likely not find the best live performances among those that happened to sell a product or a brand, but among those that came from a love of music and the urge of necessity of an artistic statement.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: So Cruel on February 23, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
I voted no. I consider U2 to be behind Springsteen and The Who (original lineup) as the worlds greatest live band.
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Post by: codeguy on February 24, 2014, 07:16:47 AM
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I voted no. I consider U2 to be behind Springsteen and The Who (original lineup) as the worlds greatest live band.
Springsteen is great. IMHO, U2 is greater.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: codeguy on February 24, 2014, 07:25:22 AM
After some further research, I think my earlier numbers were off. The Rolling Stones have played live to about 38 million people, plus or minus 2 million. U2 has played live to 32 million. No other act has reached those numbers, though Springsteen and Bon Jovi are both in the high 20s. Thus, at this moment, the Rolling Stones remain the greatest in size, but U2 is poised to overtake them either on this tour or the next. As a reference point, the Rolling Stones had only played live to 25 million by the time the band members were the age U2s members are now ...
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Post by: codeguy on February 24, 2014, 07:27:23 AM
Of course, any argument about whether U2 is bigger than the Rolling Stones is like arguing over a silver medal, since neither one will ever eclipse the Beatles in POP culture no matter how many concerts they do....
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Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2014, 08:53:24 AM
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The thing with people is, you can't pinpoint a definitive GREATEST LIVE ACT EVER, as tastes and variations in performance will dictate differing answers even from the same person.

Some of the great live acts are unknown to the majority of people, for example non-English speaking performers, and there are many well known AND great live acts who you can only rank based on personal preference.

I think the best thing about is that you get to expand your knowledge and basis of judgement, and can keep your mind and taste fresh.

Another thought that occured is, one will likely not find the best live performances among those that happened to sell a product or a brand, but among those that came from a love of music and the urge of necessity of an artistic statement.

Pretty much echoes how I feel.
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Post by: codeguy on February 24, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
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The thing with people is, you can't pinpoint a definitive GREATEST LIVE ACT EVER, as tastes and variations in performance will dictate differing answers even from the same person.

Some of the great live acts are unknown to the majority of people, for example non-English speaking performers, and there are many well known AND great live acts who you can only rank based on personal preference.

I think the best thing about is that you get to expand your knowledge and basis of judgement, and can keep your mind and taste fresh.

Another thought that occured is, one will likely not find the best live performances among those that happened to sell a product or a brand, but among those that came from a love of music and the urge of necessity of an artistic statement.

Pretty much echoes how I feel.
the question wasn't 'who is your favorite' it was 'who is the greatest' ..... I'd say it's hard to find an alternate measurement than lifetime ticket sales. The Beatles wouldn't be considered the greatest recording act of all time if they sold fewer records than another artist
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Post by: satellitedog01 on February 24, 2014, 02:53:31 PM
My point was you simply cannot objectively come to a conclusion as to who the greatest live act is/are.

You can of course get a list of great live acts who are also popular, but you won't be able to quantify greatness by sales.

It's an exercise in futility as well, since the number of live performers, active, defunct and dead is immense, and none of us can compare, and even if it were possible, the outcome would be a matter of subjective taste.

If you juggle around, and limit your criteria as to who may be included (and consequently narrow your tastes in music as well), you may end up with a situation where U2 can top the list, but that would be a sad prospect now, wouldn't it?
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Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on February 24, 2014, 03:22:53 PM
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The thing with people is, you can't pinpoint a definitive GREATEST LIVE ACT EVER, as tastes and variations in performance will dictate differing answers even from the same person.

Some of the great live acts are unknown to the majority of people, for example non-English speaking performers, and there are many well known AND great live acts who you can only rank based on personal preference.

I think the best thing about is that you get to expand your knowledge and basis of judgement, and can keep your mind and taste fresh.

Another thought that occured is, one will likely not find the best live performances among those that happened to sell a product or a brand, but among those that came from a love of music and the urge of necessity of an artistic statement.

Pretty much echoes how I feel.
the question wasn't 'who is your favorite' it was 'who is the greatest' ..... I'd say it's hard to find an alternate measurement than lifetime ticket sales. The Beatles wouldn't be considered the greatest recording act of all time if they sold fewer records than another artist

I know, and my reasoning remains the same.

Its is impossible to single out a single musical act or performer and call them the "Greatest Live Music Act of All Time." All of the artists people consider the greatest will have varying reasons for being considered so, and its really hard to distinguish what is most significant out of these kinds of things. You single out ticket sales, and while that is a good measurement to use, it basically says that the artists who sold the most tickets are the greatest live.

Sales = Greatness is a flawed way of viewing things, because it fails to take into account the incredible amount of talented artists that will never play to the massive crowds which the Stones and U2 did. Artists like Cher and Britney Spears are able to sell millions of concert tickets. Does this make them better than other artists below them?
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: So Cruel on February 24, 2014, 03:30:29 PM
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I voted no. I consider U2 to be behind Springsteen and The Who (original lineup) as the worlds greatest live band.
Springsteen is great. IMHO, U2 is greater.

Seen them both over 10x. While Zoo TV arena show was the best concert I've ever seen, on a whole Springsteen is a better performer.
Title: Re: Do You Consider U2 To Be The Greatest Live Music Act Of All Time?
Post by: So Cruel on February 24, 2014, 03:33:06 PM
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The thing with people is, you can't pinpoint a definitive GREATEST LIVE ACT EVER, as tastes and variations in performance will dictate differing answers even from the same person.

Some of the great live acts are unknown to the majority of people, for example non-English speaking performers, and there are many well known AND great live acts who you can only rank based on personal preference.

I think the best thing about is that you get to expand your knowledge and basis of judgement, and can keep your mind and taste fresh.

Another thought that occured is, one will likely not find the best live performances among those that happened to sell a product or a brand, but among those that came from a love of music and the urge of necessity of an artistic statement.

Pretty much echoes how I feel.
the question wasn't 'who is your favorite' it was 'who is the greatest' ..... I'd say it's hard to find an alternate measurement than lifetime ticket sales. The Beatles wouldn't be considered the greatest recording act of all time if they sold fewer records than another artist

Lifetime ticket sales amounts more to how long the band has been around, how many shows they've played, and how popular they've been then to how great a live performance they give.