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Title: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: bonofaninaustin on March 01, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
New Bono interview
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kkkk4oIRA7Q
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: bonofaninaustin on March 01, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
Working on 2 albums...can Bono be trusted?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: The Exile on March 01, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
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Working on 2 albums...can Bono be trusted?

Normally I would say no, but to leak this kind of thing so close to the release? I think there's something to this.
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Post by: Messenger on March 01, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
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Working on 2 albums...can Bono be trusted?

Normally I would say no, but to leak this kind of thing so close to the release? I think there's something to this.

The pertinent question is...who have you trusted to think it is close to the release?

Though I am wishfully-thinking along the same lines.
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Post by: The Exile on March 01, 2014, 03:56:59 PM
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Working on 2 albums...can Bono be trusted?

Normally I would say no, but to leak this kind of thing so close to the release? I think there's something to this.

The pertinent question is...who have you trusted to think it is close to the release?

Though I am wishfully-thinking along the same lines.

I think all the members of the band have directly indicated that the album's release is immanent. So to my mind, Bono's claim here is completely different from his claim in 3/09 that SOA would be out before the year's end. That was a promise months away from possible fulfillment, whereas this one's more easily falsifiable.

But then, it's Bono, so who knows? That kid spends half his time talking about of his @$$.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Tarahumara on March 01, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
Three thoughts:
1) Bono should drink during all interviews, he's more entertaining.
2) "There's two of them now" means albums or songs?
3) I want to hear the acoustic polka and harmonica album.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: codeguy on March 01, 2014, 03:59:02 PM
There ARE two albums, there have been two albums the entire time. Yes, the first album was delayed a few times but they have been saying there are two albums for the last two and a half years.....
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: codeguy on March 01, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
They are working on an acoustic harmonica driven polka album with Coldplay if this is to be believed...
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Messenger on March 01, 2014, 04:08:46 PM
It's going to be hilarious when they decide against releasing one of them and go back on their years of hints, innuendos and confirmations.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: wraitii on March 01, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Maybe that's the secret.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: The Edges Cat on March 01, 2014, 04:53:49 PM
Last year, Larry and Adam both said they were aiming for September, then the end of 2013.

If they were in the media as often as Bono, you wouldn't trust them either.

Bono would release the album/s sooner rather than later. There are other band members, particularly one I'm close to, who are responsible for how long it's taking. ;)
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miami on March 01, 2014, 04:56:58 PM
Amanda seems to be a decent girl and all but she missed her big scoop when she virtually let the 2 album quote go unchallenged. Very amateurish. She could've pressed Bono on it but it seemed to go in one ear and out the other.

It looks like a quick one-two punch rather than a double album then.

The Chris Martin influence is sure to annoy some here. I'll reserve my judgement. Coldplay have some great tunes and some not so great. Looks like no earlier than July if there are two albums.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: BalconyTV on March 01, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
fun interview. good to see.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: an tha on March 01, 2014, 05:08:58 PM
Bono's statements about u2's plans in interviews are things I have learnt to not treat seriously...
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Man Dreams One Day to Fly on March 01, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
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Amanda seems to be a decent girl and all but she missed her big scoop when she virtually let the 2 album quote go unchallenged. Very amateurish. She could've pressed Bono on it but it seemed to go in one ear and out the other.

It looks like a quick one-two punch rather than a double album then.

The Chris Martin influence is sure to annoy some here. I'll reserve my judgement. Coldplay have some great tunes and some not so great. Looks like no earlier than July if there are two albums.

It may seem that way but Bono and Amanda have known each other since they were kids or at least since Bono was a teenager and she was a small child. They both grew up on Cedarwood Road. I think any interview they have is naturally going to be laid back and informal so I would think she wouldn't press him like she would other people. You just wouldn't do that to a personal friend of yours.
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Post by: The Slow Loris on March 01, 2014, 05:34:25 PM
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Bono's statements about u2's plans in interviews are things I have learnt to not treat seriously...

Normally, I would agree with you, but James Mercer (of Broken Bells) was recently quoted on Danger Mouse's work with U2 as saying, "That entire FIRST record was all his (Danger Mouse)," implying that U2 are doing two records. Larry Mullen also stated U2 was planning on releasing a record last year, and then releasing another record again very shortly after. With the length of time U2 are taking with this "album", it only makes sense….especially given the various reports that U2 had "12 songs" as far back as 2011….and all the reports LAST YEAR from Daniel Lanois and others (Dallas Schoo and Gavin Friday, for example) stating they had already heard the new U2 album. I really believe U2 have one album finished, and have another almost in the bag. Those "6 or 7 songs remixed and ready to go" (according to Edge) are likely for the last album they are working on. Which album they release first remains to be seen, of course. I found it pretty amusing that Edge would say "6 or 7" songs, rather than an exact number, as if he doesn't actually know.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miami on March 01, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
Well she certainly pressed him about the date of release. She didn't hold back on that front. Anyway, I'll believe the 2 albums when I see them.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: an tha on March 01, 2014, 05:50:54 PM
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Bono's statements about u2's plans in interviews are things I have learnt to not treat seriously...

Normally, I would agree with you, but James Mercer (of Broken Bells) was recently quoted on Danger Mouse's work with U2 as saying, "That entire FIRST record was all his (Danger Mouse)," implying that U2 are doing two records. Larry Mullen also stated U2 was planning on releasing a record last year, and then releasing another record again very shortly after. With the length of time U2 are taking with this "album", it only makes sense….especially given the various reports that U2 had "12 songs" as far back as 2011….and all the reports LAST YEAR from Daniel Lanois and others (Dallas Schoo and Gavin Friday, for example) stating they had already heard the new U2 album. I really believe U2 have one album finished, and have another almost in the bag. Those "6 or 7 songs remixed and ready to go" (according to Edge) are likely for the last album they are working on. Which album they release first remains to be seen, of course. I found it pretty amusing that Edge would say "6 or 7" songs, rather than an exact number, as if he doesn't actually know.

Fair points - who knows what to believe - I suppose time will tell

I do wonder if they might release an album and not tour (bar a few smallish promo shows) see how that sits for 6-9 months, let the songs become known and if well received put the 2nd album out and tour on the back of two albums - one relatively well known and one new, could help with the reception of the songs as the first albums will be relatively well known and if its a good album the 2nd would sell well on the back of it... helping the songs off both be better received than the new material was off NLOTH were the reception at the gigs I attended (including Dublin) was muted.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: fna692002 on March 01, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
After watching the interview part a couple times, I almost feel like Bono was going to at first give his usual "ahh ehh well waiting for God" excuse he would give to most press, but after a sec of thinking he was like ahh f*** it, you and I are childhood friends heres the real reason why.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on March 01, 2014, 07:14:52 PM
Whether it be 1 or 2 albums, could they... oh I don't know... RELEASE one of these?!  ::) :D

Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Messenger on March 01, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
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Bono's statements about u2's plans in interviews are things I have learnt to not treat seriously...

Normally, I would agree with you, but James Mercer (of Broken Bells) was recently quoted on Danger Mouse's work with U2 as saying, "That entire FIRST record was all his (Danger Mouse)," implying that U2 are doing two records. Larry Mullen also stated U2 was planning on releasing a record last year, and then releasing another record again very shortly after. With the length of time U2 are taking with this "album", it only makes sense….especially given the various reports that U2 had "12 songs" as far back as 2011….and all the reports LAST YEAR from Daniel Lanois and others (Dallas Schoo and Gavin Friday, for example) stating they had already heard the new U2 album. I really believe U2 have one album finished, and have another almost in the bag. Those "6 or 7 songs remixed and ready to go" (according to Edge) are likely for the last album they are working on. Which album they release first remains to be seen, of course. I found it pretty amusing that Edge would say "6 or 7" songs, rather than an exact number, as if he doesn't actually know.

No one can argue they aren't working on two albums right now. It's the releasing two albums part that no one knows yet (even them I'd argue).
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Messenger on March 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Finally got a chance to actually watch the interview. I really enjoyed it. It was great hearing Bono speak so laid back, with no pressure, charming and flirty.

I think I have a Pavlov's dog reaction to hearing Bono speak now. When I heard the words campaign and (RED) I could feel my eyes twitch, like they were preparing to roll.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: OnlyU2 on March 01, 2014, 07:52:24 PM
I am still holding them to the 3 album projects they said they are working on. 
"We're working on three albums at the moment and we haven't decided what order we're going to put them out but 'The Songs Of Ascent' have the kind of beautiful intimacy that we're speaking of now," Bono said in an exclusive interview - 2 years ago!
And in that French radio interview last week, Bono said they have 50 songs.  (probably most of which he wrote while he was recovering from back surgery).  I am wondering about a double album to be released this summer, and that 3rd album sometime in the next few years....
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: dwaltman on March 01, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
1st record: U
2nd record: 2

I think the only question is whether they will be released at the same time or consecutively.  Personally, I would like them dropped at the same time but releasing one a while before the tour and a second during the tour would be good strategy.
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Post by: PowerSurge on March 01, 2014, 08:48:28 PM
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1st record: U
2nd record: 2

I think the only question is whether they will be released at the same time or consecutively.  Personally, I would like them dropped at the same time but releasing one a while before the tour and a second during the tour would be good strategy.

LOL!

As unbelievably pretentious and overdone as that may sound I think I would actually like that!!! (for some odd and unexplainable reason  ;D)

Hell, if they would go that far then really mess with it and call them: EWE & TOO or something ridiculous. I seem to think that the more ridiculous and throw away the title the better the quality of the music seems to be with so many bands that I listen to. Its worth a shot!
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: codeguy on March 01, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
The "third album" was the REDONE album, which Adam said they abandoned.....I still wonder if the second album is SOA?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: NotComingDown on March 01, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
2 albums would be great, but I'm certainly not counting on it.

And that was a fun interview, wasn't it? Best I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: HolyHandGrenade on March 01, 2014, 09:31:27 PM
I doubt the legitimacy of the other set of songs being the RedOne or SOA stuff. They could have rehashed some of the tunes they put down during those sessions, but 5 years is certainly long enough to have songs materialize through natural, out of (or in) studio work, unrelated to a producer.
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on March 01, 2014, 11:45:42 PM
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1st record: U
2nd record: 2

I think the only question is whether they will be released at the same time or consecutively.  Personally, I would like them dropped at the same time but releasing one a while before the tour and a second during the tour would be good strategy.

LOL!

As unbelievably pretentious and overdone as that may sound I think I would actually like that!!! (for some odd and unexplainable reason  ;D)

Hell, if they would go that far then really mess with it and call them: EWE & TOO or something ridiculous. I seem to think that the more ridiculous and throw away the title the better the quality of the music seems to be with so many bands that I listen to. Its worth a shot!

1st: 2
2nd: U
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: soloyan on March 02, 2014, 01:27:30 AM
My interpretation of all this is that they lack focus. They don't know the target, in terms of having an album that stands on its own. I believe the Danger Mouse work was probably done or close to completion and then... The "being relevant" BS came up.

I believe the band are trying to put together songs that make no sense as an "ensemble".

Before Joshua Tree they were having a hard time writing hit singles, they were "album makers". Now it's the other way around, to the point of being a handicap.
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Post by: The Edges Cat on March 02, 2014, 03:06:45 AM
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My interpretation of all this is that they lack focus.

I think the opposite. I reckon they're having so much fun recording music, knowing that it could be the last time they do so, they're making it last as long as they can.

It's probably not that much for the producers, though. ;)
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Post by: miami on March 02, 2014, 03:08:17 AM
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My interpretation of all this is that they lack focus. They don't know the target, in terms of having an album that stands on its own. I believe the Danger Mouse work was probably done or close to completion and then... The "being relevant" BS came up.

I believe the band are trying to put together songs that make no sense as an "ensemble".

Before Joshua Tree they were having a hard time writing hit singles, they were "album makers". Now it's the other way around, to the point of being a handicap.

If it is true, I think the opposite. I think they have a strategy laid down and all the secrecy was to blow everyone's minds when they hit us with a one-two punch. Guy oseary has probably had a hand in it too. I have confidence that the guys will deliver something great this year.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miryclay on March 02, 2014, 04:19:37 AM
My feelings for Amanada Brunker are summed up in this emoticon.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001314287/hskdh-32008655027_xlarge.jpeg
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miryclay on March 02, 2014, 04:22:55 AM
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Three thoughts:
1) Bono should drink during all interviews, he's more entertaining.
2) "There's two of them now" means albums or songs?
3) I want to hear the acoustic polka and harmonica album.

He should change Invisible lyrics to:

"there is no album, only this"
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miryclay on March 02, 2014, 04:25:48 AM
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The "third album" was the REDONE album, which Adam said they abandoned.....I still wonder if the second album is SOA?

It would be very U2 to call an album 're-done'
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Post by: hipeponymous on March 02, 2014, 06:09:31 AM
To echo some earlier comments I heard that the band is working on not one, not two, not three, but FOUR albums. Here is what my source tells me:

1st album: UNO - an album that will be to benefit the ONE campaign and have songs like Invisible on it. The theme will be youth from the perspective of wisdom

2nd album: DOS - an album of collaborations - All those songs we've been hearing about for years are here- Rick Rubin, Redone, Chris Martin, Underworld, Michael W Smith, Mick Jagger - they are all here - it'll be an eclectic dance/ techno/ electro/ acoustic explosion

3rd album: Tres - this will be the quiet meditative album that was formerly known as Songs of Ascent

4th album: Catorce - this will be a cheeky, Spanish infused punk rock album a la The Clash's Sandanista - with also a hint of the Ramones thrown in for good measure. Bono will sing in Spanish for the most part and it will be aimed at the Latin market.

That's what I hear anyway - look for the albums to drop Beyonce style in late 2016 in time for the holidays
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on March 02, 2014, 06:55:01 AM
Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   
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Post by: wik73 on March 02, 2014, 07:39:10 AM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Swan269 on March 02, 2014, 07:39:38 AM
when it comes to this kind of stuff, Bono usually talks a big game, but the band gets gun shy.  it would be great, but i think unlikely.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miami on March 02, 2014, 08:45:28 AM
Thinking again about it, there has to be two albums. Why would the broken bells guy mention the first album. Odds on now for two albums.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on March 02, 2014, 09:36:08 AM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.
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Post by: eddyjedi on March 02, 2014, 09:47:26 AM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.

Magnificent could have been from UF
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: SDD3000 on March 02, 2014, 10:11:44 AM
Best interview ive seen him in for a long time.. No charity work talk just fun casual and laidback. It was like the Bono of old. Please do more interviews like this B man
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: mikepd on March 02, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
When Bono refers to 50 songs good bet it's ideas/bits of songs - some while be amalgamised and some dropped, some left for another time. It will be one album - my guess single late March and album around Easter and tour starting July
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: gujuju on March 02, 2014, 10:21:26 AM
I think there is now credible evidence for 2 albums....no band in the world should take 4 years to record 12 songs (we know they've been recording in various fits and starts for that duration of time, especially if you consider the NLOTH holdovers).  Add the Mercer comment to this logic, and the Bono comment has some validity.

Obviously I'm no genie, but here's what I think is happening:
1) they have a boatload of songs and are trying to figure out the right way to release them all (i.e. not all fit together)
2) the DM sessions probably led to a great album, but they don't want another NLOTH type of situation where their relevance is in question.  Unlike NLOTH, they don't want to compromise the album with some last minute noodling and insertion of "radio hits".
3) But they still they want to release the DM album, bc it's probably very good (and the bulk of us will love it), so they will
4) they realize they may have at least 3/4 of a more commercial 2nd album, and want to spend the next 2 months finishing it -- this may be with Paul Epworth and Ryan Tedder (I hope the rumors about Tedder are wrong, but oh well) -- and it may be the bulk of the rest of the songs they've been keeping in their arsenal over the last 3-4 years
5) they realize once the first album drops, they won't have the time to finish album number 2, so theses last 4-5 songs are holding everything up

I think they release the DM album this summer without any advance fanfare (Beyonce/Radiohead style) and then in the Fall release the 2nd album in the same manner.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: eddyjedi on March 02, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
This is all becoming so boring isn't it?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: AchtungPop on March 02, 2014, 10:45:14 AM
Well it doesn't mean they're planning to release two, at least not in the same year.

Releasing two albums in the same year in the current state of the music industry is unlikely and the 2nd album always goes down big time in sales. Justin Timberlake did it with 20/20. The 1st sold 968,000 copies its first week. The 2nd album sold 350,000 copies. Same thing with Green Day.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Starman on March 02, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
I doubt that we'll really get two albums. We'll maybe get a deluxe edition with some new songs.   After all, remember last time?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Thunder Peel on March 02, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
I'd like to believe two albums are on the way but at this point I think we'll be lucky to get one. I would love for them to prove me wrong. ;)
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Zoo_TV on March 02, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
i wonder if they will pull a franz ferdinand and release something like Right Thoughts, Right Words, Right Action and Right Notes/Right Words/Wrong Order. 

So maybe 1 album with either a remixed album/live recorded album.   
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on March 02, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
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I'd like to believe two albums are on the way but at this point I think we'll be lucky to get one. I would love for them to prove me wrong. ;)

Agreed.    I think getting even one is questionable.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: ehtaerb on March 02, 2014, 02:20:40 PM
I doubt there will be two albums or a double album for that. We will get a new album of 12 songs in July followed by a number of non-album singles in the second half of the year and into early 2015
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miami on March 02, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
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I'd like to believe two albums are on the way but at this point I think we'll be lucky to get one. I would love for them to prove me wrong. ;)

Agreed.    I think getting even one is questionable.

So after all these years spent in the studio, they're going to say, 'na, it's not good enough, we'll scrap it all and wait another couple of years'.   Really?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Thunder Peel on March 02, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
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I'd like to believe two albums are on the way but at this point I think we'll be lucky to get one. I would love for them to prove me wrong. ;)

Agreed.    I think getting even one is questionable.
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So after all these years spent in the studio, they're going to say, 'na, it's not good enough, we'll scrap it all and wait another couple of years'.   Really?

It's been five years and they still don't have anything ready. At this point I think that's a fair assumption.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: eddyjedi on March 02, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
5 years. Wow.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Jack on March 02, 2014, 04:03:56 PM
Wot a load of crap
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: miami on March 02, 2014, 04:10:37 PM
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I'd like to believe two albums are on the way but at this point I think we'll be lucky to get one. I would love for them to prove me wrong. ;)

Agreed.    I think getting even one is questionable.
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So after all these years spent in the studio, they're going to say, 'na, it's not good enough, we'll scrap it all and wait another couple of years'.   Really?

It's been five years and they still don't have anything ready. At this point I think that's a fair assumption.

So you're saying there's going to be nothing this year then?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Thunder Peel on March 02, 2014, 04:15:26 PM
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So you're saying there's going to be nothing this year then?

I don't claim to know either way. I think it's likely we'll get something this year but we also have been told about a new project since 2009. With all the delays it's not out of the realm of possibility that they will delay it even further.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: ZooClothes on March 02, 2014, 04:21:08 PM
Anyone know any specifics about their contract in terms of how many more albums they HAVE to do? What are they contractually obligated to release going forward?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Messenger on March 02, 2014, 04:24:39 PM
Easy now. Everyone take a deep breath lol
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: eddyjedi on March 02, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
It nothing gets released this year we won't ever get anything again i'd say.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: codeguy on March 02, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
I think they have invested too much at this point to back off now ......
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: OnlyU2 on March 02, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
It's understandable that we're all getting frustrated, which makes us doubt there will be a new album at all.  But with all the talk about it, there's no turning back now.  I still have June marked on my calendar, as for the 2nd album, probably not for another year or two.
I feel that it will be well worth the 5 year wait......
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: LateReg on March 02, 2014, 05:38:02 PM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.

Agree 100%. U2 are very confused and so are any fans who think the way back to "relevance" is with hit songs. Think about the most respected, relevant bands of the past however many years. Radiohead, Arcade Fire, etc. They're bands who are popular enough to top the billboard chart without so much as a single on the radio. Because being relevant isn't about singles, it's about making great uncompromised music, plain and simple. Why U2 doesn't realize that other "relevant" bands aren't relevant because of hits is beyond me.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: doctoru2 on March 02, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.

Agree 100%. U2 are very confused and so are any fans who think the way back to "relevance" is with hit songs. Think about the most respected, relevant bands of the past however many years. Radiohead, Arcade Fire, etc. They're bands who are popular enough to top the billboard chart without so much as a single on the radio. Because being relevant isn't about singles, it's about making great uncompromised music, plain and simple. Why U2 doesn't realize that other "relevant" bands aren't relevant because of hits is beyond me.

I understand your views, but there is a caveat.

Radiohead's fans are significant enough to sell 100,000 or so copies of their newest album during the first week.  And in today's market, that is often more than enough to reach #1.  For a week, Radiohead is discussed.  The following week, the album drops to #10 or so, then rather quickly falls from the Top 200.  Mere months after the album is released, no media member is discussing Radiohead.

This has NOTHING to do with the quality of the album.  It's merely a reflection of the lack of a hit single.  Even something that floats near the Top 40 for them is enough to keep the album near the top (note that many artists who have huge hits do not necessarily have a huge selling album - this tends to flip a bit for groups that have been around for a while).

By U2 having at least one if not two hits that are true Top 40 material (meaning more than one and done, like GOYB), that will keep the album on the charts.  And hence U2 are discussed for a while.  More discussion means more relevance.

You may not like this, but it appears this is what U2 want.  I can't say I blame them.  They work on albums for some time.  They certainly don't want it off the charts in 3 or 4 months.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Messenger on March 02, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
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I understand your views, but there is a caveat.

Radiohead's fans are significant enough to sell 100,000 or so copies of their newest album during the first week.  And in today's market, that is often more than enough to reach #1.  For a week, Radiohead is discussed.  The following week, the album drops to #10 or so, then rather quickly falls from the Top 200.  Mere months after the album is released, no media member is discussing Radiohead.

This has NOTHING to do with the quality of the album.


Until the year end hits, and everyone publishes their Best of lists and more often than not, that very same Radiohead album is mentioned, listed near the top and discussed again.

That has NOTHING to do with the marketing of the album.


Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: LateReg on March 02, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.

Agree 100%. U2 are very confused and so are any fans who think the way back to "relevance" is with hit songs. Think about the most respected, relevant bands of the past however many years. Radiohead, Arcade Fire, etc. They're bands who are popular enough to top the billboard chart without so much as a single on the radio. Because being relevant isn't about singles, it's about making great uncompromised music, plain and simple. Why U2 doesn't realize that other "relevant" bands aren't relevant because of hits is beyond me.

I understand your views, but there is a caveat.

Radiohead's fans are significant enough to sell 100,000 or so copies of their newest album during the first week.  And in today's market, that is often more than enough to reach #1.  For a week, Radiohead is discussed.  The following week, the album drops to #10 or so, then rather quickly falls from the Top 200.  Mere months after the album is released, no media member is discussing Radiohead.

This has NOTHING to do with the quality of the album.  It's merely a reflection of the lack of a hit single.  Even something that floats near the Top 40 for them is enough to keep the album near the top (note that many artists who have huge hits do not necessarily have a huge selling album - this tends to flip a bit for groups that have been around for a while).

By U2 having at least one if not two hits that are true Top 40 material (meaning more than one and done, like GOYB), that will keep the album on the charts.  And hence U2 are discussed for a while.  More discussion means more relevance.

You may not like this, but it appears this is what U2 want.  I can't say I blame them.  They work on albums for some time.  They certainly don't want it off the charts in 3 or 4 months.

Thanks for the reply.

I know what you're saying, but I think you're underestimating Radiohead's relevance. They are considered a more relevant band than U2 over the past 15 years. Hands down. Sure, we may be looking at relevance from different perspectives. I want U2's late career to be thought of 20 years from now. That's true relevance, and they're sacrificing it by thinking about singles. They should focus on making a true work of art, which would sell anyway BECAUSE THEY ARE U2. Since they are so big and have such a great fanbase, if it is good, it will sell, and they are underestimating that.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: LateReg on March 02, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
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I understand your views, but there is a caveat.

Radiohead's fans are significant enough to sell 100,000 or so copies of their newest album during the first week.  And in today's market, that is often more than enough to reach #1.  For a week, Radiohead is discussed.  The following week, the album drops to #10 or so, then rather quickly falls from the Top 200.  Mere months after the album is released, no media member is discussing Radiohead.

This has NOTHING to do with the quality of the album.


Until the year end hits, and everyone publishes their Best of lists and more often than not, that very same Radiohead album is mentioned, listed near the top and discussed again.

That has NOTHING to do with the marketing of the album.

Exactly.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: JaraSangASongAWeapon on March 03, 2014, 12:43:46 AM
This is how I see it and it's a guess...U2's contract with Live Nation runs out in 2020 and the 2 albums Bono mentions is their last obligation towards that deal. I can't imagine they'd only record 1 album, tour/promote that, at the snail's pace they're going (5 years to the day of NLOTH), and then record/tour another album, because...2020. Clock is ticking.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: an tha on March 03, 2014, 01:11:28 AM
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Working on two albums?    What a bunch of BS.     That confirms to me that they don't like the DM production effort enough to release it and it will never see the light of day.    If all they want is an album full of "hits", it will never happen.   The only way for U2 to survive this is to go down the road that created Fez/BB, the original ABOY, etc., and they just won't let themselves do it.   I dont see how anyone finds them interesting any more otherwise.   

I don't understand the love affair with Fez/BB. IMHO it's songs like this that cause people not to find them interesting anymore. This is what they are saying about being esoteric. They need to create intelligent music that reaches the masses-Fez/BB just doesn't do this. There is little music out there that has much palpable meaning to it anymore, but U2 were able to fill that space at one time and that's what brought people to them. I believe Invisible and Ordinary Love provide some hope in this direction and I can't wait to see how they bring meaning back to mainstream music again.

U2 didn't ultimately reach the masses because of their "hits".  With the exception of NYD and Pride, it was the deep, "deep" cuts that got them to the brink and build-up to TJT.   Can't imagine sticking with them this long without having heard Bad, TUF, 40, Tomorrow, etc.   Take those out of the equation and they would have been a Duran Duran/Simple Minds-caliber act.   I am all for them getting airplay, but it isn't going to happen with their current recipe for songwriting.   

As for Fez/BB, that was a brief stroke of genius for them, and I would hope others feel similarly.    With the possible exception of portions of the title cut (which, ironically, were likely derived from BB), there was nothing else on NLOTH that was the fan-making U2 of old.

Agree 100%. U2 are very confused and so are any fans who think the way back to "relevance" is with hit songs. Think about the most respected, relevant bands of the past however many years. Radiohead, Arcade Fire, etc. They're bands who are popular enough to top the billboard chart without so much as a single on the radio. Because being relevant isn't about singles, it's about making great uncompromised music, plain and simple. Why U2 doesn't realize that other "relevant" bands aren't relevant because of hits is beyond me.

This.

It isn't 1987 anymore - u2 should be long past worrying about hit singles. Radiohead as you mentioned don't care, hey they are playing 20,000 capacity arenas and not playing a 'hit' song!

The worst part of u2 chasing the pop kids and hits is that it makes them make music they aren't good at making - namely 'pop' music.

Their legacy is secure, they are wealthy beyond comprehension, they have a huge fan base who will follow them and buy albums and tickets . . . Average joe and pop kids don't care about u2.

U2 for some reason seem obsessed with chasing them and they aren't going to catch them, they would be better served realising that and not compromising their art in trying to be what they are not.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Peter Parker on March 03, 2014, 02:10:21 AM
I dont think they are lost. I think they know exactly what they are doing. Wait  for it...
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Bantering ram on March 03, 2014, 04:24:48 AM
"We've got 2 of them we're working on"

That'll be new mixes for 'Invisible' and 'Ordinary Love' then.

Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: surit87 on March 03, 2014, 05:48:55 AM
Oh great! Now we don't even know how many albums to expect.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: wik73 on March 03, 2014, 06:59:52 PM

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I dont think they are lost. I think they know exactly what they are doing. Wait  for it...

+1
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: trevgreg on March 03, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
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The worst part of u2 chasing the pop kids and hits is that it makes them make music they aren't good at making - namely 'pop' music.

Until they release the long-awaited hip hop album, I'm not too convinced that they're going after the kids here.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: berg2056 on March 03, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
The talk about two albums had me excited when I first heard it, but now it has me worried. How will they release them: a double album, two unrelated projects, a staggered release? Bono has just guaranteed that, no matter how good the first album is, there will be a ton of people who will be disappointed and see the double album concept as a waste of time, if they do release 2 album, and one  or both are mediocre, they will be criticized again for wasting time on a concept instead of releasing one cohesive album around 2012. Finally, what are they going to do about touring? With 2 albums, they would have twice the material to play live. Can a band like U2 regularly dedicate 8-12 songs of new material per venue and still have a successful tour?
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Zoo_TV on March 04, 2014, 04:43:22 AM
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Can a band like U2 regularly dedicate 8-12 songs of new material per venue and still have a successful tour?

Absolutely they can.   Look at ZooTV tour, first 8 songs were from the new "AB" and they played a total of 10 from that album.  But the problem is the new album would have to be as strong as AB was .... highly doubtful from just hearing Invisible.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: berg2056 on March 04, 2014, 11:16:25 AM
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Can a band like U2 regularly dedicate 8-12 songs of new material per venue and still have a successful tour?

Absolutely they can.   Look at ZooTV tour, first 8 songs were from the new "AB" and they played a total of 10 from that album.  But the problem is the new album would have to be as strong as AB was .... highly doubtful from just hearing Invisible.

That was my point. It is not that they can't, but more of the fact that there would need to be strength of material to justify a double album, otherwise it would have made more sense to release one pretty good album 2 years ago rather than 2 pretty good albums now.
Title: Re: New Bono interview with Amanda Brunker
Post by: Thunder Peel on March 04, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
It would make more sense to release an album this summer and then put the next one out in time for the Christmas rush. They could do what they did with Zooropa and incorporate a few of those tunes into the set for the rest of the tour.