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Title: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 04, 2014, 10:39:18 AM
Would this be a better schedule for U2?

2015 - album release and 60 date tour
2016 - writing new songs
2017 - record new album
2018 - album release and 60 date tour
2019 - writing new songs
2020 - record new album
2021 - album release and 60 date tour
2022 - writing new songs
2023 - record new album
2024 - album release and 60 date tour
2025 - writing new songs
2026 - recording new album
2027 - album release and 60 date tour
2028 - writing new songs
2029 - recording new album
2030 - album release and 60 date tour

                 The sacrifice with this tour is obviously the cutting down the size of the world tours from 100 to 120 shows to just 60 shows to be finished in the year the album is released. It would mean some tours would have to skip certain cities and regions, cities and regions they would get back to on the next tour by skipping previous cities and regions from the prior tour. Perhaps the tour could be extended to the normal 100 shows given that the band did 113 shows on the Elevation tour from March 24, 2001 through December 2, 2001. But that tour was very logistically easy because it was in arena's and only visited North America and Europe.

                As for the albums and writing songs, stick with a schedule and learn to abandon things when the time is up. Be willing to use a few songs that are considered filler or b-sides in order to complete the album. Quality is in the eye of the beholder and many people consider past U2 b-sides to be better than some album tracks.

                With such a schedule, U2 could release 6 new albums and tour 6 times by 2030. I think such a schedule provides plenty of time off for other things as well as recording and writing new material. What do you think?
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Messenger on May 04, 2014, 12:20:25 PM
I think you need to step away from the keyboard.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: So Cruel on May 04, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
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I think you need to step away from the keyboard.

I have to agree
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 04, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
Look at the thread title and respond on topic and appropriately please.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: an tha on May 04, 2014, 01:11:37 PM
A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: teacher_mommy_u2fan on May 04, 2014, 01:24:59 PM
As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 04, 2014, 01:42:34 PM
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As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.

           People retire because they don't enjoy their work and have enough money to stop working or for health issues. U2 is healthy and provided they remain that way, they lover their work, which means there is no reason to retire. Prior to the 20th century, there was actually really no such thing as retirement.


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A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.


A better schedule than the one they have been on the past 20 years.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
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Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 04, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
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Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: So Cruel on May 04, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
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As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.

           People retire because they don't enjoy their work and have enough money to stop working or for health issues. U2 is healthy and provided they remain that way, they lover their work, which means there is no reason to retire. Prior to the 20th century, there was actually really no such thing as retirement.


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A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.


A better schedule than the one they have been on the past 20 years.

How do we know they truly love their work anymore? They seem to love many other things like time off, vacations, Broadway plays, acting, real estate planning, etc...
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Jack on May 04, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
A huge workload which is never gonna happen if they achieve quarter of this then I'll be very content
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: an tha on May 04, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
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As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.

           People retire because they don't enjoy their work and have enough money to stop working or for health issues. U2 is healthy and provided they remain that way, they lover their work, which means there is no reason to retire. Prior to the 20th century, there was actually really no such thing as retirement.


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A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.


A better schedule than the one they have been on the past 20 years.

Ah i see.

I'd actually like to see u2 cut right back on touring and focus on recorded work in the twilight of their careers.

Sadly touring is where the big money is and u2 are unlikely to not go after that as much as possible.

The album followed by mega tour followed by time off is likely to be the pattern over the next decade for my money.

As for your schedule - i can see what you are getting at but to me its too robotic
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
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Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
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Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 04, 2014, 08:47:23 PM
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As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.

           People retire because they don't enjoy their work and have enough money to stop working or for health issues. U2 is healthy and provided they remain that way, they lover their work, which means there is no reason to retire. Prior to the 20th century, there was actually really no such thing as retirement.


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A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.


A better schedule than the one they have been on the past 20 years.

How do we know they truly love their work anymore? They seem to love many other things like time off, vacations, Broadway plays, acting, real estate planning, etc...

Look at the schedule I posted above. There is plenty of time for vacations, Broadway plays, acting, strip clubs, go go dancing, streaking, real estate planning etc. Plus going on tour in some sense is a vacation given all the places they get to visit, things to see, etc.

         As for tour money, the band can make massive amounts of money from playing a full 60 to 70 date tour every third year. I'd say with the schedule above, they get to have it all.

          Its also the schedule that Coldplay have roughly followed since 2002.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: briscoetheque on May 04, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
What a peculiar thread.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Starman on May 05, 2014, 05:17:16 AM
Is this the real life?
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: smee on May 05, 2014, 06:00:38 AM
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As much as I love these guys, I think suggesting that they'll be touring and recording by 2030 is very optimistic. I would be happy with with two more albums and tours between now and 2020. They'll be starting to turn 60 then. I honestly expect they'll retire by then, if not sooner.

           People retire because they don't enjoy their work and have enough money to stop working or for health issues. U2 is healthy and provided they remain that way, they lover their work, which means there is no reason to retire. Prior to the 20th century, there was actually really no such thing as retirement.


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A better schedule than what?

Without anything to compare it to i can't decide.


A better schedule than the one they have been on the past 20 years.

How do we know they truly love their work anymore? They seem to love many other things like time off, vacations, Broadway plays, acting, real estate planning, etc...

Look at the schedule I posted above. There is plenty of time for vacations, Broadway plays, acting, strip clubs, go go dancing, streaking, real estate planning etc. Plus going on tour in some sense is a vacation given all the places they get to visit, things to see, etc.

         As for tour money, the band can make massive amounts of money from playing a full 60 to 70 date tour every third year. I'd say with the schedule above, they get to have it all.

          Its also the schedule that Coldplay have roughly followed since 2002.
Reason enuff for me to give it a wide berth then!
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: macfoley on May 05, 2014, 06:52:43 AM
U2 around in 2030? Oh I just saw a flying pig out of my window...
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: macfoley on May 05, 2014, 06:56:21 AM
For the record, I would like to see U2 release one more moment of magic. That is all I ask for. Another JT or Achtung moment. U2 being remembered for their music and to make a stamp. Not to keep releasing albums up to 2030.

So no, I think it is a crap schedule for them.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: SlyDanner on May 05, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
this forum has reached new depths here.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: bono55 on May 05, 2014, 02:44:54 PM
Wow, I never knew there would be such hostility to U2 releasing a lot more new material as well as touring more frequently. I wonder if this is a Henry Rollins site disguised as a U2 forum. I did not know that 6+ year gaps between albums and tours would be popular with any artist fans.  8)



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        For the record, I would like to see U2 release one more moment of magic. That is all I ask for. Another JT or Achtung moment. U2 being remembered for their music and to make a stamp. Not to keep releasing albums up to 2030.

So no, I think it is a crap schedule for them   

So essentially, you want U2 to "go away"?

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   U2 around in 2030? Oh I just saw a flying pig out of my window...   

            So you think its nearly impossible for U2 to still be around in about 15 years? If you think the band is going to stop prior to 2030, what year, roughly, do you think they will stop?
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: So Cruel on May 05, 2014, 03:02:53 PM
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Wow, I never knew there would be such hostility to U2 releasing a lot more new material as well as touring more frequently. I wonder if this is a Henry Rollins site disguised as a U2 forum. I did not know that 6+ year gaps between albums and tours would be popular with any artist fans.  8)



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        For the record, I would like to see U2 release one more moment of magic. That is all I ask for. Another JT or Achtung moment. U2 being remembered for their music and to make a stamp. Not to keep releasing albums up to 2030.

So no, I think it is a crap schedule for them   

So essentially, you want U2 to "go away"?

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   U2 around in 2030? Oh I just saw a flying pig out of my window...   

            So you think its nearly impossible for U2 to still be around in about 15 years? If you think the band is going to stop prior to 2030, what year, roughly, do you think they will stop?

Not that we want U2 to "go away" or this is a Henry Rollins site. I think we gotta be realistic though. These guys are only getting older. Even now in their early 50's they aren't even close to being a full time band and to expect them to pick up a lot better pace in the next 15 years as they get well into their 60's is unrealistic. They are no longer fully dedicated to their music like an artist like Springsteen is. He continuously writes, records, and plays. U2 don't do this. They take extended breaks and it takes them years now to record. Maybe the fire isn't there anymore and if it isn't I personally would rather see them call it a day then become a shadow of their former selves.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Messenger on May 05, 2014, 03:05:31 PM
No one knows when they will stop. Trying to predict and schedule anything at all, let alone a rigid routine like yours, is unrealistic and naive. It's far beyond wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: SlyDanner on May 05, 2014, 03:42:36 PM
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Wow, I never knew there would be such hostility to U2 releasing a lot more new material as well as touring more frequently.

No, I think people are just reacting to the bizarrely rigid structure of the timeline in your opening.  It almost indicates a complete detachment from reality.  Perhaps you did not intend to communicate it that way.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: macfoley on May 05, 2014, 04:14:20 PM
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Wow, I never knew there would be such hostility to U2 releasing a lot more new material as well as touring more frequently. I wonder if this is a Henry Rollins site disguised as a U2 forum. I did not know that 6+ year gaps between albums and tours would be popular with any artist fans.  8)



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        For the record, I would like to see U2 release one more moment of magic. That is all I ask for. Another JT or Achtung moment. U2 being remembered for their music and to make a stamp. Not to keep releasing albums up to 2030.

So no, I think it is a crap schedule for them   

So essentially, you want U2 to "go away"?

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   U2 around in 2030? Oh I just saw a flying pig out of my window...   

            So you think its nearly impossible for U2 to still be around in about 15 years? If you think the band is going to stop prior to 2030, what year, roughly, do you think they will stop?

Did I say I want U2 to go away? Can't see it myself.

I said I would prefer one more piece of magic from them. An album in which they can create because they have so many good albums and know how to make one. They are masters at their craft.

I don't want to see U2 into their 60's. I am finding Bono to be a little cheesy these days and quite cringe worthy. Can't imagine what he would be like when he is 60 odd. Glasses and leather? Not for me.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: macfoley on May 05, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
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Wow, I never knew there would be such hostility to U2 releasing a lot more new material as well as touring more frequently. I wonder if this is a Henry Rollins site disguised as a U2 forum. I did not know that 6+ year gaps between albums and tours would be popular with any artist fans.  8)



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        For the record, I would like to see U2 release one more moment of magic. That is all I ask for. Another JT or Achtung moment. U2 being remembered for their music and to make a stamp. Not to keep releasing albums up to 2030.

So no, I think it is a crap schedule for them   

So essentially, you want U2 to "go away"?

Quote
   U2 around in 2030? Oh I just saw a flying pig out of my window...   

            So you think its nearly impossible for U2 to still be around in about 15 years? If you think the band is going to stop prior to 2030, what year, roughly, do you think they will stop?

Not that we want U2 to "go away" or this is a Henry Rollins site. I think we gotta be realistic though. These guys are only getting older. Even now in their early 50's they aren't even close to being a full time band and to expect them to pick up a lot better pace in the next 15 years as they get well into their 60's is unrealistic. They are no longer fully dedicated to their music like an artist like Springsteen is. He continuously writes, records, and plays. U2 don't do this. They take extended breaks and it takes them years now to record. Maybe the fire isn't there anymore and if it isn't I personally would rather see them call it a day then become a shadow of their former selves.

This is it. I would like to see if they still "have it" with album number 13. But at the same time, going by the 50/50 reactions of Invisible and OL, I can picture the next album with the same. Some fans will say "it's the best album since Achtung" some will say opposites. I think U2 have got to the point where even their own fans are divided on their 00's material that to release another masterpiece in the likes of JT and Achtung, is a huge task.

Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: LToy on May 05, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
I can't see U2 doing this type of career trajectory, especially now at their age.  Maybe this would work for fresh, young U2 between ages 18-24.  Something that various band members have said over the years in separate interviews has always stuck with me: "We just are not disciplined enough to be conventional songwriters."  I think that's why U2 albums tend to have long gestation periods, especially their last 4 albums.
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Starman on May 06, 2014, 09:06:15 AM

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Is this the real life?

Is this just fantasy?
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: meximofo on May 06, 2014, 09:09:33 AM
Caught in a landslide
Title: Re: Would this be a better schedule for U2?
Post by: Starman on May 06, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
No escape from reality