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Title: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: Bonoman77 on June 13, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Someone on this board said the i and e tour had sluggish ticket sales. Are they serious look on u2,s website every show is practically sold out and i live in ny there doing 8 sold out nights in msg and broke an online record of 120,000 trying to get tickets for the first 4 ny shows .Sluggish  get your facts strait.
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Post by: U2alwaysforever on June 13, 2015, 09:22:20 AM
Lolol well said
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Post by: SlyDanner on June 13, 2015, 05:47:37 PM
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Someone on this board said the i and e tour had sluggish ticket sales. Are they serious look on u2,s website every show is practically sold out and i live in ny there doing 8 sold out nights in msg and broke an online record of 120,000 trying to get tickets for the first 4 ny shows .Sluggish  get your facts strait.

While I understand your general point, it would actually help to have your facts straight before publishing a post like this.  For example, the NY shows are not sold out; there are tickets available for both of the last 2 shows there.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: U2alwaysforever on June 13, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
I came on board with U2 in 1996, I'm fairly certain since then the critics day every time, oh yeah, U2 they're done, they're old. 96, 19 years ago.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: jjack339 on June 14, 2015, 07:24:03 AM
Well, to be fair I was surprised to see tickets available for Chicago on the 29th of June, and July 2 still available. But ya almost every show is sold out. Particularly on the Coast (west and east) and Europe.
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Post by: Blueyedboy on June 14, 2015, 10:21:04 AM
It's also worth considering the research that went into deciding which cities got the tour and how many shows it would be hit with. The tour is visiting cities where the band have had strong sales historically so it's a somewhat safe tactic.


 
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: soloyan on June 15, 2015, 05:20:57 AM
The Tour is a huge success, no doubt about that. But the fact that it's not COMPLETELY sold out and it being "just" an arena tour might lead to U2 being very cautious before they launch a new stadium tour (next year, for example).

Do we know which tickets weren't sold out ? Was it the cheap tickets or the most expensive ones ?
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Post by: tom_b1807 on June 15, 2015, 08:53:30 AM
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The Tour is a huge success, no doubt about that. But the fact that it's not COMPLETELY sold out and it being "just" an arena tour might lead to U2 being very cautious before they launch a new stadium tour (next year, for example).

Do we know which tickets weren't sold out ? Was it the cheap tickets or the most expensive ones ?

It's mostly the high end tickets that are left, cheap stadium tickets might attract more people.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: jjack339 on June 15, 2015, 01:32:33 PM
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It's mostly the high end tickets that are left, cheap stadium tickets might attract more people.

That might be true in some cases, but I bought tickets for the Chicago show, almost all of the available seats are the cheapest.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: codeguy on June 15, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
I think U2 has already decided to to a stadium tour. They have hinted at
One. They didn't take any support acts this time out, hinting that they might want to instead use them to help fill stadiums, and they have not booked Ireland yet. I think 2016 we might get a stadium tour
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: an tha on June 15, 2015, 01:45:07 PM
You can still get tickets for opening night in London, months after going on sale.

AXS.com the official o2 site, 6 tickets available now in a row together, not split odd seats but 6 together, block 111...total cost £1097 that is equal to 1700 USD so you can understand how expensive that is.... Serves them right if they can't sell them for charging at that price.
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Post by: il_capo on June 15, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
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It's mostly the high end tickets that are left, cheap stadium tickets might attract more people.

My experience of U2 stadium tours since Zoo TV is that prices are high, so I would not be too optimistic about U2 selling out stadiums if they tour at the prices they usually charge for an outdoor show.  Standing tickets in the stadium tend to be the cheapest but they're still far from what I'd define as "cheap".
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Post by: soloyan on June 15, 2015, 03:28:03 PM
I have not noticed any difference between stadium and arenas regarding prices on a U2 concert.... So far.
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Post by: codeguy on June 15, 2015, 03:41:27 PM
Not sure about Europe but in America it was easy to get the cheap tickets to 360 but not for I&E
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Post by: Mary C on June 15, 2015, 06:40:07 PM
I hope for God's sweet sake that they have a strategy in place to play 2nd-tier markets in the US if they do stadiums. Some places they play every tour (Giants Stadium NJ, etc) but maybe the thinking for (hopefully) cheaper seats in stadiums they'll play in places like Texas, Miami, Atlanta, DC? I don't know. One stadium show in each of these places. Don't know if it will translate to cheaper seats though.

I was talking to one of my co-workers the other day who took her daughter to see Ed Sheeran. $85 for nosebleeds, I asked what the first-tier seats were for, she didn't know. For *Sheeran*. God help us all.
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Post by: SlyDanner on June 15, 2015, 11:33:37 PM
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I hope for God's sweet sake that they have a strategy in place to play 2nd-tier markets in the US if they do stadiums. Some places they play every tour (Giants Stadium NJ, etc) but maybe the thinking for (hopefully) cheaper seats in stadiums they'll play in places like Texas, Miami, Atlanta, DC? I don't know. One stadium show in each of these places. Don't know if it will translate to cheaper seats though.

I was talking to one of my co-workers the other day who took her daughter to see Ed Sheeran. $85 for nosebleeds, I asked what the first-tier seats were for, she didn't know. For *Sheeran*. God help us all.

I don't understand this post at all.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: shanep on June 15, 2015, 11:42:08 PM

So the first 6 are sold out and two have tickets left. That's a 75% sell out. That's not sluggish.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: shanep on June 15, 2015, 11:43:02 PM
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It's also worth considering the research that went into deciding which cities got the tour and how many shows it would be hit with. The tour is visiting cities where the band have had strong sales historically so it's a somewhat safe tactic.

Not really. They could have easily sold out an arena show in nearby SLC and bypassed it.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: hrsan on June 16, 2015, 06:35:35 AM
Considering it's an arena tour in limited markets and there are some tickets still available, it's sluggish for U2.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: PatateTony35 on June 18, 2015, 11:53:15 AM
Strange. None of the MTl show were sold out. But for months they said the first 2 were sold out, until of course they released extra ticket a week prior. But there were still quite some red section empty... Anyway those were 300$
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: Pint of Guinness on June 18, 2015, 01:23:47 PM
Well, at the second Denver show, they were able to close areas at each side of the arena and relocate ticket holders to other empty seats, so it wasn't sold out there.  And, they only played two shows total in the mile high city.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: Saint1322 on June 18, 2015, 01:48:26 PM
IMO, the only cause for alarm at these prices and in this economy and without airplay would be if U2 couldn't sell out two arena shows in the markets they are playing. Denver probably would have been fine with just the one show, but if they had played two shows each in Boston, LA, NYC and Chicago, I cannot even imagine what the ticket demand and scalpers would be like.

I was pleasantly surprised by how well-attended 360 was in the US. If they come back to stadiums in the US next year, they might want to play smaller stadiums where they can. For example, Bobby Dodd in Atlanta rather than the Georgia Dome, Vandy (again) in Nashville rather than LP Field.

Big difference between 45,000 seats and 75,000 in the secondary markets. As far as LA, Boston, Chicago, etc., they'll sell those stadiums out for one or two nights.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: PatateTony35 on June 18, 2015, 03:03:47 PM
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IMO, the only cause for alarm at these prices and in this economy and without airplay would be if U2 couldn't sell out two arena shows in the markets they are playing. Denver probably would have been fine with just the one show, but if they had played two shows each in Boston, LA, NYC and Chicago, I cannot even imagine what the ticket demand and scalpers would be like.

I was pleasantly surprised by how well-attended 360 was in the US. If they come back to stadiums in the US next year, they might want to play smaller stadiums where they can. For example, Bobby Dodd in Atlanta rather than the Georgia Dome, Vandy (again) in Nashville rather than LP Field.

Big difference between 45,000 seats and 75,000 in the secondary markets. As far as LA, Boston, Chicago, etc., they'll sell those stadiums out for one or two nights.

I still can't realize how 360 went viral. Here in Montreal they sold out 160,000 tickets for two nights, 4 years later they can't sold out 84,000 tickets for 4 shows - and this is including people who went to all 4 shows like me!
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Post by: Saint1322 on June 18, 2015, 03:36:59 PM
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IMO, the only cause for alarm at these prices and in this economy and without airplay would be if U2 couldn't sell out two arena shows in the markets they are playing. Denver probably would have been fine with just the one show, but if they had played two shows each in Boston, LA, NYC and Chicago, I cannot even imagine what the ticket demand and scalpers would be like.

I was pleasantly surprised by how well-attended 360 was in the US. If they come back to stadiums in the US next year, they might want to play smaller stadiums where they can. For example, Bobby Dodd in Atlanta rather than the Georgia Dome, Vandy (again) in Nashville rather than LP Field.

Big difference between 45,000 seats and 75,000 in the secondary markets. As far as LA, Boston, Chicago, etc., they'll sell those stadiums out for one or two nights.

I still can't realize how 360 went viral. Here in Montreal they sold out 160,000 tickets for two nights, 4 years later they can't sold out 84,000 tickets for 4 shows - and this is including people who went to all 4 shows like me!

Strange, isn't it? 360 were the first stadium shows in the U.S. since PopMart -- which sold very poorly in some markets (Tampa and New Orleans were pretty bad, I heard) -- and they packed out everywhere behind an album that didn't do much at all.

The smallest venue they played on 360 was Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville. I think attendance was about 44,000. Packed. I mean, slammed.

I seriously doubt they could sell out the arena in Nashville -- which holds about 19,000, I think -- twice today. Once, no problem. Twice? I don't think so. Not unless they didn't play Atlanta, Charlotte, St. Louis or Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: jjack339 on June 18, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
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Strange, isn't it? 360 were the first stadium shows in the U.S. since PopMart -- which sold very poorly in some markets (Tampa and New Orleans were pretty bad, I heard) -- and they packed out everywhere behind an album that didn't do much at all.

The smallest venue they played on 360 was Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville. I think attendance was about 44,000. Packed. I mean, slammed.

I seriously doubt they could sell out the arena in Nashville -- which holds about 19,000, I think -- twice today. Once, no problem. Twice? I don't think so. Not unless they didn't play Atlanta, Charlotte, St. Louis or Cincinnati.

I honestly the spectacle of the claw mixed with the concept of a stadium tour (which are being more and more rare) is what caused people to flock to the shows. Oh ya, and U2 was and is still a pretty big deal.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: jjack339 on June 18, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
Only 4 of the remaining shows on the tour are not sold out. 2 of them are almost sold out. Last night in Chicago has a good amount of tickets left, and last night in NY has a decent amount.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: achtungx on June 18, 2015, 08:55:29 PM
Again, any "sluggishness" is reserved for the expensive $300+ seats.

That isn't concerning.

I would be concerned if they couldn't sell out the mid and lower price tier tickets. That would mean that U2 is fading out.

That didn't happen at all.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: Saint1322 on June 19, 2015, 09:38:24 AM
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Again, any "sluggishness" is reserved for the expensive $300+ seats.

That isn't concerning.

I would be concerned if they couldn't sell out the mid and lower price tier tickets. That would mean that U2 is fading out.

That didn't happen at all.

If they can't sell $85 GAs, they are in big trouble, and we are nowhere near that.

Plus, some of those unsold $300 seats were previously attached to larger travel packages.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: an tha on June 19, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
It  isn't concerning at all to me if men who are amongst the wealthiest musicians in the world haven't quite sold out some arenas.

I find it much more concerning that they are selling tickets to people that offer those people terrible views of the show.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: U2OnceAgain on June 19, 2015, 12:42:12 PM
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Someone on this board said the i and e tour had sluggish ticket sales. Are they serious look on u2,s website every show is practically sold out and i live in ny there doing 8 sold out nights in msg and broke an online record of 120,000 trying to get tickets for the first 4 ny shows .Sluggish  get your facts strait.
Ok so how many of those sold out shows have resold tickets waiting to be sold. I bet a lot of those tickets will get eaten, but they still count as being sold. In years past you couldn't get U2 Tickets an hour after they went on sale.
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: U2alwaysforever on June 20, 2015, 12:20:33 AM
Some great points here first. But as someone who is very out of the loop of mainstream music I must ask, what bands or groups do sell out stadium tours now...? I sort of fear the answers...
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Post by: bonorules on June 20, 2015, 12:16:09 PM
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Some great points here first. But as someone who is very out of the loop of mainstream music I must ask, what bands or groups do sell out stadium tours now...? I sort of fear the answers...

One Direction, Taylor Swift, Kenny Chesney all sell very well in stadiums. The Stones as selling out most shows, but I think a few still have tickets available. My feeling lately with stadium shows is that a large portion of the crowd is really just there for the all day party in the parking lot with their friends. The show itself is secondary and the next day most probably couldn't tell you anything about it, but could tell you every minor detail about tailgating in the lots.
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Post by: mdmomof7 on June 20, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
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Some great points here first. But as someone who is very out of the loop of mainstream music I must ask, what bands or groups do sell out stadium tours now...? I sort of fear the answers...

One Direction, Taylor Swift, Kenny Chesney all sell very well in stadiums. The Stones as selling out most shows, but I think a few still have tickets available. My feeling lately with stadium shows is that a large portion of the crowd is really just there for the all day party in the parking lot with their friends. The show itself is secondary and the next day most probably couldn't tell you anything about it, but could tell you every minor detail about tailgating in the lots.

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Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: badu2fan on June 21, 2015, 09:14:08 AM
Seems Rolling Stones tour is getting most of the press and staying in news vs U2 tour.

U2 should have moved city to city vs making folks spend 1000s with ticket and travel. People living close to were they are playing are happy campers.
Would be interesting what percentage of crowds are traveling more then 200 miles. Not sure if a stadium tour will materialize except to hit markets they didn't play arena's. Which is what stones are doing playing Columbus Indianapolis Raleigh etc.  Will the stage and setup work and how would they hang speakers from the roof of outdoor venue?

Are folks happy with the sound? I haven't heard a bootleg and wonder if they can catch a good recording with no speaker banks to aim mics!!!!

If you remember, to fill the stadiums last tour they had to drop most of the songs from NLOTH.

Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: olimar on June 21, 2015, 10:28:12 AM
The original post mentions "sluggish ticket sales" which is different from "poor ticket sales".
Generally speaking, if a band have quick selling tickets, then youre left with nothing but the most expensive seats only a week after sales. At the London dates U2 still had tickets available in what I think is listed as Category B only a few weeks ago. If you still have tickets available for an arena show in that category 6 months after they went on sale, then thats probably sluggish.
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Post by: mdmomof7 on June 21, 2015, 12:10:56 PM
All my U2 shows are more than 200 miles from me. If they were closer, I could see more shows! :)
Title: Re: Sluggish ticket sales (are you kidding me )
Post by: TheU2Ken on June 22, 2015, 12:21:29 PM

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IMO, the only cause for alarm at these prices and in this economy and without airplay would be if U2 couldn't sell out two arena shows in the markets they are playing. Denver probably would have been fine with just the one show, but if they had played two shows each in Boston, LA, NYC and Chicago, I cannot even imagine what the ticket demand and scalpers would be like.

I was pleasantly surprised by how well-attended 360 was in the US. If they come back to stadiums in the US next year, they might want to play smaller stadiums where they can. For example, Bobby Dodd in Atlanta rather than the Georgia Dome, Vandy (again) in Nashville rather than LP Field.

Big difference between 45,000 seats and 75,000 in the secondary markets. As far as LA, Boston, Chicago, etc., they'll sell those stadiums out for one or two nights.
I pray they would play Bobby Dodd if they did a stadium tour. It's so intimate. The saw the stones just play their and it was perfect from even the top row of the stadium. They could sell if out like they sold out Vandy, which was an incredible show
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Post by: Saint1322 on June 22, 2015, 12:37:43 PM
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Someone on this board said the i and e tour had sluggish ticket sales. Are they serious look on u2,s website every show is practically sold out and i live in ny there doing 8 sold out nights in msg and broke an online record of 120,000 trying to get tickets for the first 4 ny shows .Sluggish  get your facts strait.
Ok so how many of those sold out shows have resold tickets waiting to be sold. I bet a lot of those tickets will get eaten, but they still count as being sold. In years past you couldn't get U2 Tickets an hour after they went on sale.

I think that's the limited cities with multiple nights factor.

If U2 had played 25 U.S. markets with one show in each except for 2-3 in LA, NYC, Boston and Chicago, it would have been the usual frenzy for tickets. The itinerary of this tour makes it impossible to compare to any other tour.