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Title: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: hrsan on June 22, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
Personally, I think the setlists are fine.  A good mix of new songs, hits and room for a few surprises.  There are a couple of songs I could do without, but for the most part, I think it's fine and look forward to my show.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 22, 2015, 02:13:31 PM
Analysing and criticising the minutiae of a tour such as setlists is the lifeblood of community forum such as this when a band is active.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 22, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
Option 2

Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: PatateTony35 on June 22, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
Too many hits? you're kidding? this tour is the right balance between old hits, new songs and some rarities. if you want more rarities then cut some of the new songs. they can't do a show only to the big big U2 fan who knows every song and don't want to hear pride. so yes those setlists are great.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: daviddevaul on June 22, 2015, 02:30:07 PM
It's obvious they could rotate 2 or 3 additional songs, lose very little impact of both the hits and new songs and keep it fresher... but they're kinda lazy about setlists.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 22, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
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It's obvious they could rotate 2 or 3 additional songs, lose very little impact of both the hits and new songs and keep it fresher... but they're kinda lazy about setlists.

It's a comfort zone thing and being self-employed there's no boss to push them out of it.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: fardreamer on June 22, 2015, 03:02:25 PM
Of course the setlist gets more criticism than it deserves.

Funny thing is we all love Zoo TV and Popmart and those sets were WAY more static that i&e.

People love to complain and whine. It makes them feel more important I guess.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 22, 2015, 03:06:08 PM
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Of course the setlist gets more criticism than it deserves.

Funny thing is we all love Zoo TV and Popmart and those sets were WAY more static that i&e.

People love to complain and whine. It makes them feel more important I guess.

For me it's not a static vs. flexible setlist issue; it's the setlist itself.  While I thought the setlists for Zoo TV/Zooropa and PopMart were very good, I feel that the setlists on this tour - of the ones I've seen - are just ok. 
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on June 22, 2015, 03:21:34 PM
If you check the stats, the band has played the largest variety of songs for any first leg of a tour... EVER.

Sure, some of their choices may not be exactly what people are hoping for. I would so love a song from Pop or Zooropa for that matter, or for them to get rid of songs like Pride and I Still Haven't Found. But right now the band are giving us both a show with a lot of meaning and heart (especially the opening 10 songs), while also providing plenty of variance in what show you may see.

I'll be pleased in whatever they play for me. As long as the show has passion and heart, that's fine by me.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: mariamontreal on June 22, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
The tour is called Innocence &Experience? Old and new?
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 22, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
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The tour is called Innocence &Experience? Old and new?

We're still waiting on the songs of experience.

Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: mariamontreal on June 22, 2015, 04:36:11 PM
True but the theme is the same
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: an tha on June 22, 2015, 04:42:54 PM
I hope Invisible gets jibbed by the time they come back home, along with some of the 00 tracks, hopefully replaced by pop and Zooropa songs.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Boom Cha! on June 22, 2015, 04:49:32 PM
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Funny thing is we all love Zoo TV and Popmart and those sets were WAY more static that i&e.

I'm not complaining about the setlist being static, I'm complaining about the songs that are being used in the set.

ZooTV and PopMart were both filled with songs I'd love them to be playing now. There was no Beautiful Day or City Of Blinding Lights back then and Mysterious Ways sounds so much better with the extended solo towards the end like they used to do.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: an tha on June 22, 2015, 05:22:55 PM
New songs aside do you think U2 are playing songs that are easier to play....by that I mean songs they have played pretty regularly down the years/most simple arrangements or songs they are well practiced in...

Look at the last show in Montreal for example:
Out of Control
Vertigo
I will follow
Sunday bloody sunday
Until the end of the world
Even better
Mysterious Ways
Elevation
Stuck in a moment
Bullet the blue sky
Pride
With or without you
Beautiful Day
City of Blinding Lights
Streets
40

That's the list of songs played minus the new ones.

That is very, very unadventurous in my view.



Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: mariamontreal on June 22, 2015, 05:38:44 PM
I am sure they have some surprises coming in the upcoming shows the tour has only just begun I am positive things will take a turn on the setlists. I guess everyone will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Perico on June 22, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
Comparison to ZooTv and Popmart are not fair. Yes, the setlists were pretty much as static as in this tour, but back then there was no youtube, no twitter, no social media, so to the vast majority of the attendance, everything was a surprise. Clearly nowadays isn't anything like that.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: THRILLHO on June 22, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Eh I wouldn't say it's very very adventurous. they're ignoring 4 albums entirely.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: meximofo on June 22, 2015, 07:17:08 PM
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Comparison to ZooTv and Popmart are not fair. Yes, the setlists were pretty much as static as in this tour, but back then there was no youtube, no twitter, no social media, so to the vast majority of the attendance, everything was a surprise. Clearly nowadays isn't anything like that.
Well, in that case, it's our fault to be bored with the setlist if we use youtube, twitter, social media, etc. to follow each minute of the tour. Besides, it's just a setlist. If I look at all the War setlists and then look at the Red Rocks setlist, I could say "meh, same setlist for the entire leg". What's important is your experience live.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: fardreamer on June 22, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
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Comparison to ZooTv and Popmart are not fair. Yes, the setlists were pretty much as static as in this tour, but back then there was no youtube, no twitter, no social media, so to the vast majority of the attendance, everything was a surprise. Clearly nowadays isn't anything like that.
Well, in that case, it's our fault to be bored with the setlist if we use youtube, twitter, social media, etc. to follow each minute of the tour. Besides, it's just a setlist. If I look at all the War setlists and then look at the Red Rocks setlist, I could say "meh, same setlist for the entire leg". What's important is your experience live.
Truth
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: d.darroch on June 22, 2015, 10:28:27 PM
I think it's fair that the band has faced criticism after backtracking on the option of 2 unique shows, after tickets had already gone on sale.

Do I want 2 unique shows? It would be nice, but I'm happy with the 1 show concept, with a few more changes. Why rehearse so many songs if you're only going to make a few changes each night. I'd also like to hear all the new songs, not in one night, but in each city.

I'm happy with the first set to remain quite static, as this part of the show has been well received. Though I'd rotate the opener, between Miracle & TIWYCRMN (& possibly Volcano). Although it's been well received this tour I'd rotate Vertigo (also possibly with Volcano). I'd continue to rotate OOC , but add other old favourites with a lot of energy to this slot, & the IWF slot (like Two Hearts, Seconds, A Day Without Me, I Threw a Brick, 11 O'clock,  Electric Co. etc), not all of them, but plenty to choose from). Mofo before Iris on occasions would be nice.

The second set hasn't been so well received. Invisible doesn't look like it's going down that we'll, so I'd rotate the opener (possibly between Invisible & TCB). I don't expect a show of rarities, that wouldn't be popular with the casuals (the majority of the crowd). But there's so many warhorses, they can be rotated, all fans would be happy with this. That screen was made for The Fly! I'd like to see it rotated with EBTTRT. Not a fan of MW, rotate it with another warhorse. Continue mixing up the e-stage set, looks like fun. BTBS is going down well, looks rejuvenated, but it still could be rotated with another warhorse. I'd rotate Pride with NYD. I don't like One as a closer, I'd rotate it in the Beautiful Day slot (I think out of BD, One & Vertigo, 2 should be played each night, to keep the casuals happy, with 1 having a rest). Loving hearing Bad, keep playing it on occasions (20-25% of the time). Streets every night, of course, I'd continue to rotate it between late in the main set & in the encore. But it needs a good segue, not a Bono speech. How about RTSS or AIWIY? I'd like to hear The Troubles every night, rotate it with WOWY.

Not enjoying the encore much. Continue with Streets every second night. Add some fan favourites, like Gone, maybe Kite in there somewhere. But I'm not enjoying the closer at all. I'd try The Troubles here, & rotate it with Love is Blindness & 40.

Specific enough? Sorry for the long post. In summary, I'd mainly mix up the warhorses, & try out the SoI songs that haven't been played.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Waffles on June 22, 2015, 10:41:07 PM
In all honesty, it's prefectly mixed. They could change out more songs to spice things up and really give a different second half. I'd like vertigo to be switched for another hit. But the mix is even. Just need to switch out raririties for other rarities and hits for other hits here and there, which in sure we will see in europe
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: d.darroch on June 22, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
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In all honesty, it's prefectly mixed. They could change out more songs to spice things up and really give a different second half. I'd like vertigo to be switched for another hit. But the mix is even. Just need to switch out raririties for other rarities and hits for other hits here and there, which in sure we will see in europe
This
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: ZooClothes on June 22, 2015, 11:05:37 PM
I get the feeling when Europe starts cranking into high gear the setlist police are gonna go nuts.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: PatateTony35 on June 23, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
I don't get why people are hatin' on a show they didn't even attend. Seriously this forum is so much packed with people complaining about everything U2 does if I was them I would be done with this band. Of course we don't have to like everything U2 have done, but at some point it's just ridiculous to spend all days complaining abour f*cking EVERYTHING related to this band. I'm done with this forum. See you.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: hrsan on June 23, 2015, 12:48:15 PM
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I don't get why people are hatin' on a show they didn't even attend. Seriously this forum is so much packed with people complaining about everything U2 does if I was them I would be done with this band. Of course we don't have to like everything U2 have done, but at some point it's just ridiculous to spend all days complaining abour f*cking EVERYTHING related to this band. I'm done with this forum. See you.

We may all complain, but that's because we love U2 so much!
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Manos73 on June 23, 2015, 12:52:37 PM
I've been going to U2 shows for 14 years. The set lists I've seen look like the best I'll ever get a chance to see.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: kevc on June 23, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
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I hope Invisible gets jibbed by the time they come back home, along with some of the 00 tracks, hopefully replaced by pop and Zooropa songs.

Well said, invisible I could live without, and Mysterious ways! I'd be made up with please / staring at the sun / god will send his angels any of those instead of some of the E stage stuff (stuck / elevation / Ordinary love), to be fair though elevation is usually well received.

Aside from that i'm pretty happy with the mix.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: kevc on June 23, 2015, 01:48:58 PM
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I think it's fair that the band has faced criticism after backtracking on the option of 2 unique shows, after tickets had already gone on sale.

Do I want 2 unique shows? It would be nice, but I'm happy with the 1 show concept, with a few more changes. Why rehearse so many songs if you're only going to make a few changes each night. I'd also like to hear all the new songs, not in one night, but in each city.

I'm happy with the first set to remain quite static, as this part of the show has been well received. Though I'd rotate the opener, between Miracle & TIWYCRMN (& possibly Volcano). Although it's been well received this tour is rotate Vertigo (also possibly with Volcano). I'd continue to rotate OOC , but add other old favourites with a lot of energy to this slot, & the IWF slot (like Two Hearts, Seconds, A Day Without Me, I Threw a Brick, 11 O'clock,  Electric Co. etc), not all of them, but plenty to choose from).

The second set hasn't been so well received. Invisible doesn't look like it's going down that we'll, so I'd rotate the opener (possibly between Invisible & TCB). I don't expect a show of rarities, that wouldn't be popular with the casuals (the majority of the crowd). But there's so many warhorses, they can be rotated, all fans would be happy with this. That screen was made for The Fly! I'd like to see it rotated with EBTTRT. Not a fan of MW, rotate it with another warhorse. Continue mixing up the e-stage set, looks like fun. BTBS is going down well, looks rejuvenated, but it still could be rotated with another warhorse. I'd rotate Pride with NYD. I don't like One as a closer, I'd rotate it in the Beautiful Day slot (I think out of BD, One & Vertigo, 2 should be played each night, to keep the casuals happy, with 1 having a rest). Loving hearing Bad, keep playing it on occasions (20-25% of the time). Streets every night, of course, I'd continue to rotate it between late in the main set & in the encore. But it needs a good segue, not a Bono speech. How about RTSS or AIWIY? I'd like to hear The Troubles every night, rotate it with WOWY.

Not enjoying the encore much. Continue with Streets every second night. Add some fan favourites, like Gone, maybe Kite in there somewhere. But I'm not enjoying the closer at all. I'd try The Troubles here, & rotate it with Love is Blindness & 40.

Specific enough? Sorry for the long post. In summary, I'd mainly mix up the warhorses, & try out the SoI songs that haven't been played.

Great post...ahhh The Fly that would be stunning! BTBS looks a monster on this tour as well!
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: LemonadeSupernova on June 23, 2015, 02:24:20 PM
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New songs aside do you think U2 are playing songs that are easier to play....by that I mean songs they have played pretty regularly down the years/most simple arrangements or songs they are well practiced in...

Look at the last show in Montreal for example:
Out of Control
Vertigo
I will follow
Sunday bloody sunday
Until the end of the world
Even better
Mysterious Ways
Elevation
Stuck in a moment
Bullet the blue sky
Pride
With or without you
Beautiful Day
City of Blinding Lights
Streets
40

That's the list of songs played minus the new ones.

That is very, very unadventurous in my view.

It takes a lot more effort to learn to play songs live for the first time or the first time in decades, or to 'reload' songs with totally new arrangements and styling.  I suspect laziness does play a very real factor in their song selection.  (And it's not just a question of Bono not being able to hit the high notes anymore.  Phil Collins has been singing Genesis songs in a lower register for years.)

Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: mariamontreal on June 24, 2015, 10:30:39 AM
I am positive the setlist will change dramatically starting tonight in Chicago we got the warm up songs in Montreal Lol..I bet they will start to play  other songs and mix them up
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Droo on June 24, 2015, 12:13:26 PM
I am loving the amount of new songs, but lamenting the lack of any major surprises from the back catalogue. There have been no Zooropas, Scarlets, or Ultra Violets on this tour. The only old songs that aren't warhorses being dusted off are Miracle Drug (ew), When Love Comes To Town (double ew) and The Electric Co (last seen on Vertigo).

I am so utterly sick of Pride, Bullet and UTEOTW, and it annoyed me having to sit through reeeeeeeally long performances of those songs both nights in Montreal.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: THRILLHO on June 24, 2015, 01:43:21 PM
i love that WLCTT and Desire <the REAL version> are being played. Those are the only surprises i'm looking forward to.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: jeremyb on June 24, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
I really wish Edge would start playing the slide guitar part in MW again. Was always my favourite song in the ZooTV set.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: very good on June 24, 2015, 03:14:58 PM
My disappointment is 2 fold. Multiple shows in smaller venues. This should be the recipie for much more varied set lists. Suppose there's still time.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: bigjohn3574 on June 25, 2015, 07:14:44 AM
I keep saying give it time however I will be very interested to see how Chicago goes. Lets see if they do something besides Out of Control in the 2nd spot then three or four changes in the 2nd set (Desire/Angel/One/Troubles)
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Mr. Red on June 25, 2015, 07:37:01 AM
I feel it really is not so much about the set list stagnation for me. That I can semi deal with. What's impossible for me to swallow is the horrendous choice of the back catalogue tunes that absolutely kills it for me. Like someone mentioned earlier, Pride, WOWY, UTEOTW, BTBS are just completely dead and tired. When love comes to town?? Please. Just God awful. But, because they are scared to upset the high paying casual fans, they have to play the most recognizable tunes. Even "streets" which can arguably be the greatest live song ever has lost it's luster. It's for this reason that I have significant reduced the number of shows attended. Shame because going to a U2 show used to be a spiritual experience for me. 
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Saint1322 on June 25, 2015, 09:43:24 AM
Positives:
1. Lots of new songs
2. Good selection of hits for casuals

Negative:
1. Only one, but it is important: Where are the goodies for long-time fans? I count one, the Electric Co./OOC slot. 360 gave us UnFire, UV, Zooropa, HMTM, YBR, Electrical Storm, new unheard songs and Miss Sarajevo. We got 2-3 of those a night and it changed from leg to leg. Where are those songs?

Imagine the set if you dropped one of the M-Ways/Real Thing and one of the Angel/Desire songs and added in Wire or Gone or Please or One Tree Hill or Dirty Day. The set looks VERY different with just two war horses going out and two for die-hards coming in.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: missey on June 25, 2015, 05:52:23 PM
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I keep saying give it time however I will be very interested to see how Chicago goes. Lets see if they do something besides Out of Control in the 2nd spot then three or four changes in the 2nd set (Desire/Angel/One/Troubles)

You say you keep saying give it more time, but didn't you say in another thread you sold some of your tickets because of the setlist?
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: andyc2111 on June 26, 2015, 12:41:25 AM
wow - I purposefully kept away from looking at Montreal 3 and 4, and Chicago 1 and 2 until now hoping that I'd come to find some surprises and variation. I think it's now safe to say that this is the way the tour will go. Completely unforgivable not giving diehards some highlights like someone said about 360.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: bigjohn3574 on June 26, 2015, 06:33:00 AM
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I keep saying give it time however I will be very interested to see how Chicago goes. Lets see if they do something besides Out of Control in the 2nd spot then three or four changes in the 2nd set (Desire/Angel/One/Troubles)

You say you keep saying give it more time, but didn't you say in another thread you sold some of your tickets because of the setlist?

I did however I will be in NYC for business the week of the shows and was really hoping to hit an additional night with the thought of a little variety. Only thing I was wrong about was missing Bad in the main set...Bad job my them in my opinion...But again, thats just my two cents
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on June 26, 2015, 11:19:36 AM
I just saw Chicago 2 last night, and had completely avoided spoilers about the setlist.  Other than seeing the piece on Sunday Morning with the stage, I didn't know much what to expect.

I don't care as much these days about setlist variety from night to night, because at the cost of tickets (and my ever-waning interest), one show is all I'm bothering to see.

As such, the new material actually worked pretty well.  I thought the first half of the set was strong, giving a remarkably personal impression of Bono's younger days.  It was almost Young Bono: The Musical.  But the second half really started to lose me--greatest hit after greatest hit, none of them meaning close to what they used to.  There were definite highlights: UTEOTW and Bullet were great, and Pride was done better than it had been in decades.  But after hearing Out of Control as the second song, there simply were no surprises other than maybe the snippet of MoS--which, surprisingly, I really enjoyed.  (NLOTH is still my least favorite album of theirs.)  And similar to my one and only 360 show, the 90's U2 was extremely limited: just 3 songs from AB, one of which Bono barely sang at all.  And the Wanderer as the "intermission" track was really weird--I was excited at first that they were actually playing it, and then disappointed that it was just the recording.  Why not actually work that track into the actual set, and have Bono sing it?  It just seemed to be for a quick wardrobe change.  It just seemed there were steps taken for the "show" side that unfortunately impacted the "music" side.  Reworking SBS so that Larry could come out from behind the kit was interesting visually, but completely removed the song's driving kick drum.

I had theorized awhile back that you basically had 3 contingents of fans to cater to: casual fans who like the hits, fans of the newest album, and die-hards who want rarities.  This show took care of the first two.  As such, I'm forced to consider that this may, in fact, be my last U2 show, and that it's not a terrible thing.  I saw Rush a couple weeks ago, who seemed to juggle the hits/rarities with aplomb, though they also weren't supporting an album--it was a truly retrospective tour.  I might wish U2 would do something similar, but hey, you can't have everything.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Droo on June 26, 2015, 11:21:38 AM
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And the Wanderer as the "intermission" track was really weird--I was excited at first that they were actually playing it, and then disappointed that it was just the recording.  Why not actually work that track into the actual set, and have Bono sing it?  It just seemed to be for a quick wardrobe change.  It just seemed there were steps taken for the "show" side that unfortunately impacted the "music" side. 

They should axe Invisible and actually do The Wanderer into EBTTRT.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: Tuolumne on June 26, 2015, 01:02:42 PM
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I don't get why people are hatin' on a show they didn't even attend. Seriously this forum is so much packed with people complaining about everything U2 does if I was them I would be done with this band. Of course we don't have to like everything U2 have done, but at some point it's just ridiculous to spend all days complaining abour f*cking EVERYTHING related to this band. I'm done with this forum. See you.

We may all complain, but that's because we love U2 so much!

Yeeeahhhh...with fans like these, who need enemies!  Seriously, I was a little taken aback when I read Bono say something in an interview about hoping to get some new fans. I was mildly offended, being an old fan from the early eighties, but now, having spent some months on this forum, I can totally see why.  So much entitlement and nitpicking. 

They are playing shows to audience made up of people who are  probably going to one show only and don't have time to listen to bootlegs, videos and periscopes from that past 40 years, so those songs don't seem stale.  I've been to 'only' 8 U2 shows since 1985, about once a tour.   

I think if I were in the band, I would value a brand new SoI fan just as much as an old fan, and in some respects, maybe even more.

PatateTony35, I feel ya. I suspect fans like you and me get tired of this never-ending parade of negative threads and go somewhere else, and that's why the negative tone of this forum is self-perpetuating. 
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: threechords on June 26, 2015, 09:51:04 PM
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I feel it really is not so much about the set list stagnation for me. That I can semi deal with. What's impossible for me to swallow is the horrendous choice of the back catalogue tunes that absolutely kills it for me. Like someone mentioned earlier, Pride, WOWY, UTEOTW, BTBS are just completely dead and tired. When love comes to town?? Please. Just God awful. But, because they are scared to upset the high paying casual fans, they have to play the most recognizable tunes. Even "streets" which can arguably be the greatest live song ever has lost it's luster. It's for this reason that I have significant reduced the number of shows attended. Shame because going to a U2 show used to be a spiritual experience for me.

This and more this.  I sold Chicago 1 before and now thinking of selling Chicago 4.  I don't need to see the same stuff when the current stuff is not epic like shows used to be.

Great post.
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: McLovinificent on June 26, 2015, 10:13:07 PM
The majority of U2 concert-goers want to hear SBS, BD, Pride, WOWY. We are not the target audience. That being said, they could throw us a bone by playing obscure tracks in the rotation slots after MW at least a couple times each so even if we don't see that song live, at least a live version exists on youtube. Electrical Storm and Your Blue Room from 360 are examples that come to mind. (They rarely play in my neck of the woods so youtube is all I have  :P )
Title: Re: Are the setlists getting more criticism than they deserve?
Post by: jjcruiser on June 26, 2015, 10:50:28 PM
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The majority of U2 concert-goers want to hear SBS, BD, Pride, WOWY. We are not the target audience....

Bingo.  Sometimes I think Bono throws in snippets to appease the hard core fans.