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Title: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: hrsan on July 30, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
Do you think not having an opening act set a precedent for future tours?
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Post by: miami on July 30, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
I hope they persist with the current policy. Opening acts are generally a waste of time and it often leads to an awkward relationship between crowd and band. There is little or no singing along and the crowd are usually dead until U2 come on.
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Post by: Nikki_Silver on July 30, 2015, 12:31:47 PM
I think that the only time I enjoyed the opening act as much as the main act was when Queens of the Stone Age opened for Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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Post by: acrobat62 on July 30, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
While I remember many opening acts, I believe the only one I can say I enjoyed was SRV opening for Dire Straits and later for Robert Plant.  Was also lucky enough to see him on his own too in '89.

Can't say any of U2's openers were truly enjoyable that I have seen. (Maybe Little Steven & The Disciples of Soul)
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Post by: TheCourt on July 30, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
I hope not, if nothing else I can make sure I don't see a bad band at their own show.
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Post by: Waffles on July 30, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
I'd like an opening act. The band still comes out at the same time. It gives me something to do in GA while people are still showing up
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Post by: zooropamofo on August 02, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
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I hope they persist with the current policy. Opening acts are generally a waste of time and it often leads to an awkward relationship between crowd and band. There is little or no singing along and the crowd are usually dead until U2 come on.

One exception to this was The Arcade Fire on the Vertigo tour, at least up here in Canada.  They nailed that slot and really had the crowd pumped.
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Post by: briscoetheque on August 02, 2015, 07:03:19 PM
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I hope they persist with the current policy. Opening acts are generally a waste of time and it often leads to an awkward relationship between crowd and band. There is little or no singing along and the crowd are usually dead until U2 come on.
This says much more about u2 fans than the bands. U2 fans love the whole 'arms folded, impress me' stance.
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Post by: briscoetheque on August 02, 2015, 07:08:03 PM
I look at it as a way to see artists I wouldn't otherwise have seen. I have seen Kanye West and Jay-Z 7 times each. I saw the black eyed peas twice. Do I now love em? No way, but each had a good crack at entertaining a disinterested crowd, and probably the black eyed peas (whom I like the least musically) put on the best show.

It works better these days with GA, as they have a crowd to play to. In the past with fully reserved floors there was no one to play to.

I maintain u2 should have an opening act on this tour, and in keeping with innocence /experience it should be an unsigned local band. What a opportunity.

U2 should come out and introduce them at 7pm, they should be afforded great sound and proper lighting, and they should be part of the whole night. Imagine how good that could be? U2 would get a lot of credit and rightly so.
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Post by: hrsan on August 03, 2015, 08:30:44 AM
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I look at it as a way to see artists I wouldn't otherwise have seen. I have seen Kanye West and Jay-Z 7 times each. I saw the black eyed peas twice. Do I now love em? No way, but each had a good crack at entertaining a disinterested crowd, and probably the black eyed peas (whom I like the least musically) put on the best show.

It works better these days with GA, as they have a crowd to play to. In the past with fully reserved floors there was no one to play to.

I maintain u2 should have an opening act on this tour, and in keeping with innocence /experience it should be an unsigned local band. What a opportunity.

U2 should come out and introduce them at 7pm, they should be afforded great sound and proper lighting, and they should be part of the whole night. Imagine how good that could be? U2 would get a lot of credit and rightly so.

I'm with you.  Today's opening act is tomorrow's headliner. 
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Post by: iehomecoming on August 03, 2015, 08:46:32 AM
I love the no opening act thing. Rush has been doing it for 20 years, no opening act means more time for the main attraction. I buy a ticket regardless of opening act, and if it means I can avoid hearing Jay z, Kanye West or kings of Leon then I'm all for it.

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Post by: hrsan on August 03, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
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I love the no opening act thing. Rush has been doing it for 20 years, no opening act means more time for the main attraction. I buy a ticket regardless of opening act, and if it means I can avoid hearing Jay z, Kanye West or kings of Leon then I'm all for it.





What if you get someone like Pearl Jam or Muse?
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: iehomecoming on August 03, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.

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Post by: acrobat62 on August 03, 2015, 09:19:23 AM
Little Steven & The Disciples of Sole / Los Lobos
Primus / Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprasy
Third Eye Blind
PJ Harvey
Arcade Fire
Snow Patrol
Interpol

These are the bands I have seen open for the lads and quite frankly all pretty forgettable in my mind.  I was not a fan of any of them before and am not a fan of any of them now.  Offered a bit of a diversion during the first 45 minutes, but really did not add anything to the overall concert experience.
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Post by: hrsan on August 03, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
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So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.



Understood, but are we really getting more U2 time?  Pearl Jam has opened a show for U2 well into their career and Muse could still open in a stadium show.  The Stones have gotten big name acts to open for them as well. 

I have seen Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Foo Fighters, and QOTSA as opening acts.  U2 has opened for J. Geils Band.  INXS has opened for The Police, Metallica opened for Ozzy and Led Zeppelin opened for Vanilla Fudge.   You never know.
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: iehomecoming on August 03, 2015, 09:30:42 AM
Yeah you never know. But in going to concerts for 35 years in my experience it's the "even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut" theory at work when it comes to opening bands.
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Post by: riffraff on August 03, 2015, 09:54:19 AM
I sincerely hope there will never be another opening band...please understand that this does NOT reflect on any band that has ever opened for U2. It's just that we NEED to see the longer shows...and they can only be longer if there is no opening band. I personally believe that openers are a waste of time...that's not what we pay for. We pay for the boys, and they are worth every penny. The excitement of that first song, knowing it would be Miracle, without having to sit through some other band, was just SO intense!
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Post by: an tha on August 03, 2015, 10:14:23 AM
If U2 were playing longer then I would be OK with no opener - they aren't though so it is less live music for my money and that isn't a good thing.
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Post by: hrsan on August 03, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
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Yeah you never know. But in going to concerts for 35 years in my experience it's the "even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut" theory at work when it comes to opening bands.

Fair enough, but when he finds the nut, it is ever so delicious.
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Post by: briscoetheque on August 03, 2015, 03:16:49 PM
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So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.
But that's the point. You're not getting more u2 time. You're getting more standing-around-waiting time.
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Post by: iehomecoming on August 03, 2015, 05:01:47 PM
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So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.
But that's the point. You're not getting more u2 time. You're getting more standing-around-waiting time.

No there's less.

There's typically 45 minutes between crap opener and U2, with start time typically around 9. Start time on ie has been around 815, and with the intermission the overall run time is longer but now we can take a pee break during the video, or during SFS. 
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: briscoetheque on August 03, 2015, 05:03:13 PM
And this is what rock shows have become... Pee breaks and intermissions...
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Post by: iehomecoming on August 03, 2015, 05:54:14 PM
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And this is what rock shows have become... Pee breaks and intermissions...

People gotta pee. 

But if there's a manual or something on what should or should not happen in a rock show I'd like to see it.  The "evening with" thing has been around a long time, intermission are part of that usually on the ones I've seen.
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: briscoetheque on August 04, 2015, 05:51:50 AM
I just think it's poor for that a band who worked their way up through a series of support slots doesn't give the opportunity to a local or mid range band who could really benefit for the exposure. And, if not, they should play 3 hours.

It's more like a theatre show than a gig. Arrive. Take your seats. Have a cup of tea at intermission, eat some Murray mints. Fetch your coat and go home.

Opening acts for me are a really valuable part of the concert experience. They're hit and miss. By definition.
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Post by: hrsan on August 04, 2015, 06:28:17 AM
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So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.
But that's the point. You're not getting more u2 time. You're getting more standing-around-waiting time.

No there's less.

There's typically 45 minutes between crap opener and U2, with start time typically around 9. Start time on ie has been around 815, and with the intermission the overall run time is longer but now we can take a pee break during the video, or during SFS. 

My start time was 8:30
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: briscoetheque on August 04, 2015, 06:29:14 AM
They'd always be done by 11pm too, right? That's the curfew for most venues I think...
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Post by: an tha on August 04, 2015, 07:14:14 AM
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I just think it's poor for that a band who worked their way up through a series of support slots doesn't give the opportunity to a local or mid range band who could really benefit for the exposure. And, if not, they should play 3 hours.

It's more like a theatre show than a gig. Arrive. Take your seats. Have a cup of tea at intermission, eat some Murray mints. Fetch your coat and go home.

Opening acts for me are a really valuable part of the concert experience. They're hit and miss. By definition.

Yeah - opening acts are a big part of the whole gig experience and even though u2 crowds have in my experience generally been pretty poor in how they treat opening acts I for one enjoy seeing them and as I have said feel cheated unless u2 are going to play for longer.

Less live music for your money is never a good thing....
Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: iehomecoming on August 04, 2015, 08:05:55 AM
U2 hasn't had a decent opener that fits those descriptions since 1984 with the waterboys.

No doubt, the pretenders, garbage, pearl jam, Muse were all well established bands in their own right when they opened for U2.

I'm good with no opener, yeah if they just came on and played 90 minutes I might feel differently about it.

And yes what U2 does with the preset stage positioning they need to adhere to is more like a Broadway show.


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Post by: jick on August 04, 2015, 08:49:36 AM
If they can sell out their shows or almost full sellouts without opening acts then there is no point to pay extra for opening acts.

Cheers,

J
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Post by: iehomecoming on August 04, 2015, 08:50:59 AM
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So 45 minutes of Pearl Jam or Muse vs. More U2 time ?

More U2 time.

Plus it's not likely pearl Jam or muse will be opening for U2 any time soon.
But that's the point. You're not getting more u2 time. You're getting more standing-around-waiting time.

No there's less.

There's typically 45 minutes between crap opener and U2, with start time typically around 9. Start time on ie has been around 815, and with the intermission the overall run time is longer but now we can take a pee break during the video, or during SFS. 

My start time was 8:30

That's still a half hour earlier (approximately) than they'd start with an opening band.

Title: Re: Will U2 forgo opening acts on future tours?
Post by: jjack339 on August 04, 2015, 08:07:14 PM
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While I remember many opening acts, I believe the only one I can say I enjoyed was SRV opening for Dire Straits and later for Robert Plant.  Was also lucky enough to see him on his own too in '89.

Can't say any of U2's openers were truly enjoyable that I have seen. (Maybe Little Steven & The Disciples of Soul)

Muse was the opener for the show I went to on the 360 tour. I felt they added alot and enjoyed their set.
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Post by: briscoetheque on August 04, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
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That's still a half hour earlier (approximately) than they'd start with an opening band.

Is it? Why?

7:7:30pm opening band, on stage at 8pm. Perfectly doable.
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Post by: iehomecoming on August 05, 2015, 12:07:01 AM
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That's still a half hour earlier (approximately) than they'd start with an opening band.

Is it? Why?

7:7:30pm opening band, on stage at 8pm. Perfectly doable.

For the US, the pattern is typically:

Opener: 7.30 to 8.15 (ish)

45 min break

Headliner at 9.

way way  way more often than not this is how it has been
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Post by: an tha on August 05, 2015, 12:36:02 AM
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While I remember many opening acts, I believe the only one I can say I enjoyed was SRV opening for Dire Straits and later for Robert Plant.  Was also lucky enough to see him on his own too in '89.

Can't say any of U2's openers were truly enjoyable that I have seen. (Maybe Little Steven & The Disciples of Soul)

Muse was the opener for the show I went to on the 360 tour. I felt they added alot and enjoyed their set.

Glasvegas were superb on 360.

They blew u2 off the stage in Dublin