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Title: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: joe1320 on August 20, 2015, 09:27:03 AM
U2 are on the cover of Q magazine, seems to be interviewed from New York
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 20, 2015, 05:08:33 PM
Hmm. I guess this means we in North America will have to wait until October to get the magazine.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: lorijane on August 20, 2015, 06:19:18 PM
You can order it but I don't know when it will ship to US. I ordered one because nowhere will have it in my town. It was about $17 U.S. I think to order.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 20, 2015, 07:43:03 PM
Yeah, it's order it and wait a month or wait a month and hope it appears in the shops.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: iehomecoming on August 20, 2015, 08:35:32 PM
What is this "magazine" thing of which you speak ?

Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: lorijane on August 20, 2015, 08:45:31 PM
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What is this "magazine" thing of which you speak ?



You can get an e-reader version if you like that sort of new-fangled thing.

Remember when vinyl was supposed to be dead? I think the same thing will happen with books and magazines, people will realize they have value.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: DavidSilvajnr on August 21, 2015, 05:37:29 AM
New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: iehomecoming on August 21, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
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What is this "magazine" thing of which you speak ?



You can get an e-reader version if you like that sort of new-fangled thing.

Remember when vinyl was supposed to be dead? I think the same thing will happen with books and magazines, people will realize they have value.

I love my vinyl. That's all I buy.

And I have tons of U2 cover Q, Guitar mags, etc in storage.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: codeguy on August 21, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
....in the old days, in order to  communicate, we used to chop down trees in the Brazilian Amazon rain forest, transport them on large ships to huge mills, where they would be stripped, pulped and rolled into tiny, thin sheets, bleached, dried and cut into individual strips. We would then mine oil from the ocean floor, ship it to huge refineries, refine it, pour it into large containers where it is then shipped on trains and trucks to large printeries. It was then combined with the stripped timber, to make an ancient version of 'web pages', complete with stitching and staples. Copies were then loaded into smaller trucks and shipped back all over the world to individual stores in every community, where people would then walk in and buy the pulped timber, just so that they could read an arbitrary list of one persons opinion on ranking U2's albums. We ripped up a part of our planet for that....
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: striker on August 21, 2015, 09:30:06 AM
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....in the old days, in order to  communicate, we used to chop down trees in the Brazilian Amazon rain forest, transport them on large ships to huge mills, where they would be stripped, pulped and rolled into tiny, thin sheets, bleached, dried and cut into individual strips. We would then mine oil from the ocean floor, ship it to huge refineries, refine it, pour it into large containers where it is then shipped on trains and trucks to large printeries. It was then combined with the stripped timber, to make an ancient version of 'web pages', complete with stitching and staples. Copies were then loaded into smaller trucks and shipped back all over the world to individual stores in every community, where people would then walk in and buy the pulped timber, just so that they could read an arbitrary list of one persons opinion on ranking U2's albums. We ripped up a part of our planet for that....
Hahaha.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 21, 2015, 10:24:04 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Lets hope 'civilisation' falls into The Troubles camp of songs with titles that send a shudder down you at how horrible the song could be but is actually a belter rather than the Peace on Earth camp....
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 21, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Lets hope 'civilisation' falls into The Troubles camp of songs with titles that send a shudder down you at how horrible the song could be but is actually a belter rather than the Peace on Earth camp....

So we now have 6 completed songs including red flag day and morning after innocence
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: podiumboy on August 21, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
Now you know the drill... No U2 song is COMPLETE until it's released, and even then sometimes not.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: MPare1966 on August 21, 2015, 12:52:40 PM
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....in the old days, in order to  communicate, we used to chop down trees in the Brazilian Amazon rain forest, transport them on large ships to huge mills, where they would be stripped, pulped and rolled into tiny, thin sheets, bleached, dried and cut into individual strips. We would then mine oil from the ocean floor, ship it to huge refineries, refine it, pour it into large containers where it is then shipped on trains and trucks to large printeries. It was then combined with the stripped timber, to make an ancient version of 'web pages', complete with stitching and staples. Copies were then loaded into smaller trucks and shipped back all over the world to individual stores in every community, where people would then walk in and buy the pulped timber, just so that they could read an arbitrary list of one persons opinion on ranking U2's albums. We ripped up a part of our planet for that....

Yeah... but do you think all those electronic gadgets made for the "iCrap" age we live in and that we throw away every other year are "environmental friendly products"? 
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: tom_b1807 on August 21, 2015, 02:56:58 PM
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Now you know the drill... No U2 song is COMPLETE until it's released, and even then sometimes not.

And then it gets torn apart on a 'fan' forum.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: iehomecoming on August 21, 2015, 02:58:21 PM
SOI was hardly torn apart. But then again that is actually a good album.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Pocket Merlin on August 21, 2015, 07:30:16 PM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 21, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: lemonPOP on August 21, 2015, 08:53:06 PM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation

- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Lets hope 'civilisation' falls into The Troubles camp of songs with titles that send a shudder down you at how horrible the song could be but is actually a belter rather than the Peace on Earth camp....


The troubles is amazing.  I think U2 understand and found what there looking for finally with soi and I'm confident it will be new and refreshing.   The 90's won't happen again but it shouldn't.   They actually are moving forward and that's a good thing.  Good point though.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Pocket Merlin on August 21, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?

I agree they've had some clunkers in the past, but "Instrument Flying" and "Much More Better" are kind of on a different level. Don't see what's wrong with the name "Bad", it's a very simple and broad name. "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight" is also a terrible name.

Also, I'll add that it's not that I necessarily think they couldn't create a great piece of music with a terrible name, it's just that songs that are well named sort of demand a level of respect, and songs that have terrible names make the music harder to respect. It's a somewhat minor detail, but it's sort of a part of the songwriting, in my view. The name contributes to whether the songwriting is good. I'm sure many will find that preposterous, but that's how I see it.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 22, 2015, 03:29:19 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?

I agree with you generally and of course you cant put a sound to a name but a song called The Troubles from u2 does make you think that it is going to be a song about The Troubles in Ireland....

Peace on Earth for example was exactly the kind of sickly sh**e the title suggested it it might be....

There are just some obvious exceptions to your valid point generally potential subject matter where Bono might well be in preaching mode or world saving mode - civilisation sounds like it could be one.......but then it could be like The Troubles and not about what you might think and be great.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: lorijane on August 22, 2015, 05:32:00 AM
Maybe these are just working titles and will change. I do agree that a song title matters. It's like you probably wouldn't be drawn to a book with an unattractive cover, unfortunate maybe but that's the way it is.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: MPare1966 on August 22, 2015, 06:05:05 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?

I agree they've had some clunkers in the past, but "Instrument Flying" and "Much More Better" are kind of on a different level. Don't see what's wrong with the name "Bad", it's a very simple and broad name. "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight" is also a terrible name.

Also, I'll add that it's not that I necessarily think they couldn't create a great piece of music with a terrible name, it's just that songs that are well named sort of demand a level of respect, and songs that have terrible names make the music harder to respect. It's a somewhat minor detail, but it's sort of a part of the songwriting, in my view. The name contributes to whether the songwriting is good. I'm sure many will find that preposterous, but that's how I see it.

Not sure if speculating about future song titles is relevant. I mean, if these songs titles (just to name a few)were to drop today, and we didn't have the context or heard one note, what would we say?

- The Fly
- Zoo Station
- Lemon
- 11 O'Clock Tick Tock???

You simply can't start judging a song on the title alone. Same with an album.

I remember the first time I read in RS magazine back in the day that the upcoming U2 album would be called "The Joshua Tree", me and my friends were like, WTF? What the hell is this s**t title?

Then it came out, and the title didn't matter anymore. A classic for all-times had been given to us... :-)


Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 22, 2015, 07:06:23 AM
For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: runnyjumpy on August 22, 2015, 07:24:45 AM
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Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 22, 2015, 10:48:41 AM
I agree that I was *deeply* apprehensive when we started hearing 'The Troubles' as a song name bandied around. And I was wrong!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: miryclay on August 22, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
any scans?
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: kango on August 22, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
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any scans?

I will upload as soon as I get a physical copy if we don't see it digitally first.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: runnyjumpy on August 22, 2015, 03:05:45 PM
Adam looks apprehensive.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: ecadad on August 22, 2015, 04:59:30 PM
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So we now have 6 completed songs including red flag day and morning after innocence

I count 7 "completed" songs (or at least 7 mentioned titles)

1. The Morning After Innocence
2. Red Flag Day
3. Instrument Flying
4. Get Out of Your Own Way
5. Much More Better
6. The Little Things That Give You Away
7. Civilization

None of those titles seem so horrible to me. "Instrument Flying" sounds like a title U2 uses for a demo or untitled song. Have you seen the songs titles on "Original Soundtracks 1"? They're just as odd (or more odd) as these are. (And "Zooropa" isn't even a real word).

I don't care about the songs titles- especially since these haven't been released.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 22, 2015, 08:09:29 PM
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For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.

Truth.  For example I'm glad they scrapped the working titles 'Long Road to the Nobel', 'Don't Stop Campaigning' and 'One More (Donation) Just For Grins'.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: ultravioletlight on August 22, 2015, 09:59:20 PM
I wonder if Adam Scott heard any of those songs. Probably.

3:33, when the numbers fell of the clock face
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 22, 2015, 11:01:49 PM
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any scans?

I will upload as soon as I get a physical copy if we don't see it digitally first.

Kango - by chance do you know if the subscribers version is any different then the ones you buy in the shops? I've got scans from a guy who has a subscription and I'm wondering if there are extras thrown in.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 22, 2015, 11:07:32 PM
https://www.facebook.com/jenherl/media_set?set=a.10207830902837130.1073742008.1431822183&type=3

Scans by Alan Ivory
They are a little fuzzy. Maybe Kango can get better scans when he gets his copy.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: ultravioletlight on August 22, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
I read it. Good stuff. Continued talks of relevancy. Larry hates NLOTH and (unfortunately for this forum) POP.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: kango on August 23, 2015, 03:12:17 AM
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any scans?

I will upload as soon as I get a physical copy if we don't see it digitally first.

Kango - by chance do you know if the subscribers version is any different then the ones you buy in the shops? I've got scans from a guy who has a subscription and I'm wondering if there are extras thrown in.

It will be the same.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 23, 2015, 03:56:26 AM
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For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.

Truth.  For example I'm glad they scrapped the working titles 'Long Road to the Nobel', 'Don't Stop Campaigning' and 'One More (Donation) Just For Grins'.

And thankfully they also got rid of:

Apple (We love you)
Another Grammy Please
Song for MOR Radio
Tax Efficiency
A weeks wage for a gig ticket
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: sulphur76 on August 23, 2015, 08:24:06 AM
Standout quote from Larry:
"We've learned. We'll never spend 4 1/2 years writing and recording an album again. Those days are gone."

We shall see......
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Fastcars12 on August 23, 2015, 10:35:24 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?

I agree they've had some clunkers in the past, but "Instrument Flying" and "Much More Better" are kind of on a different level. Don't see what's wrong with the name "Bad", it's a very simple and broad name. "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight" is also a terrible name.

Also, I'll add that it's not that I necessarily think they couldn't create a great piece of music with a terrible name, it's just that songs that are well named sort of demand a level of respect, and songs that have terrible names make the music harder to respect. It's a somewhat minor detail, but it's sort of a part of the songwriting, in my view. The name contributes to whether the songwriting is good. I'm sure many will find that preposterous, but that's how I see it.

Not sure if speculating about future song titles is relevant. I mean, if these songs titles (just to name a few)were to drop today, and we didn't have the context or heard one note, what would we say?

- The Fly
- Zoo Station
- Lemon
- 11 O'Clock Tick Tock???

You simply can't start judging a song on the title alone. Same with an album.

I remember the first time I read in RS magazine back in the day that the upcoming U2 album would be called "The Joshua Tree", me and my friends were like, WTF? What the hell is this s**t title?

Then it came out, and the title didn't matter anymore. A classic for all-times had been given to us... :-)
Zoo station is an awesome song title. Song for someone isn't bad either (as someone else posted). I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy tonight on the other hand, I'll concede that one.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Canadanne on August 23, 2015, 11:34:04 AM
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New songs they mention are:
- Civilisation
- Instrument Flying
- The Little Things That Give You Away
- Much More Better (acoustic....deals with Bono's accident.....he sings the line "I only sing to prove that I'm here)

Songs sound vibrant and irrestible according to the interviewer.

Those are all terrible titles--looking like some strong contenders with "Song For Someone" for the title of the worst U2 song name ever. What's the deal, U2? "Much More Better" doesn't even make any sense.

Read yourself the names on any other album and ask yourself if you think the songs would be good, going in blind. It's the same thing. You can't put a sound to a name. I trust that these songs are amazing, especially if adam Scott thinks so. Would you expect a song called "bad" to be one of their best?

I agree they've had some clunkers in the past, but "Instrument Flying" and "Much More Better" are kind of on a different level. Don't see what's wrong with the name "Bad", it's a very simple and broad name. "I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight" is also a terrible name.

Also, I'll add that it's not that I necessarily think they couldn't create a great piece of music with a terrible name, it's just that songs that are well named sort of demand a level of respect, and songs that have terrible names make the music harder to respect. It's a somewhat minor detail, but it's sort of a part of the songwriting, in my view. The name contributes to whether the songwriting is good. I'm sure many will find that preposterous, but that's how I see it.

Not sure if speculating about future song titles is relevant. I mean, if these songs titles (just to name a few)were to drop today, and we didn't have the context or heard one note, what would we say?

- The Fly
- Zoo Station
- Lemon
- 11 O'Clock Tick Tock???

You simply can't start judging a song on the title alone. Same with an album.

I remember the first time I read in RS magazine back in the day that the upcoming U2 album would be called "The Joshua Tree", me and my friends were like, WTF? What the hell is this s**t title?

Then it came out, and the title didn't matter anymore. A classic for all-times had been given to us... :-)
Zoo station is an awesome song title. Song for someone isn't bad either (as someone else posted). I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy tonight on the other hand, I'll concede that one.

I find "Song For Someone" kind of impossible to take seriously as I just think of The Beautiful South's Song For Whoever (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/beautifulsouth/songforwhoever.html)!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 23, 2015, 12:04:30 PM
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For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.

Truth.  For example I'm glad they scrapped the working titles 'Long Road to the Nobel', 'Don't Stop Campaigning' and 'One More (Donation) Just For Grins'.

And thankfully they also got rid of:

Apple (We love you)
Another Grammy Please
Song for MOR Radio
Tax Efficiency
A weeks wage for a gig ticket

 ;D :o 8)
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Nico on August 23, 2015, 01:20:01 PM
I bought song for whoever in 1989 and was very disappointed when it only got to no 2 in the UK charts
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 23, 2015, 02:03:27 PM
"My philosophy is if you can count to four you can play any U2 bassline." - Adam
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: DGordon1 on August 23, 2015, 04:16:07 PM
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I read it. Good stuff. Continued talks of relevancy. Larry hates NLOTH and (unfortunately for this forum) POP.

I remember in the run-up to the NLOTH release, Larry said to Q magazine that he thought NLOTH included some of their best ever work and that he was "not towing the party line" in saying that. So he was either being dishonest in one of these interviews, or has had a pretty spectacular change of opinion over the last few years.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 23, 2015, 04:20:50 PM

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I read it. Good stuff. Continued talks of relevancy. Larry hates NLOTH and (unfortunately for this forum) POP.

I remember in the run-up to the NLOTH release, Larry said to Q magazine that he thought NLOTH included some of their best ever work and that he was "not towing the party line" in saying that. So he was either being dishonest in one of these interviews, or has had a pretty spectacular change of opinion over the last few years.


Possibility that he had a change of heart because the album didn't do as well with the fans. He probably gave it a good listen and found its flaws.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 23, 2015, 04:51:04 PM
I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: ultravioletlight on August 23, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
I disagree completely.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Boom Cha! on August 24, 2015, 01:02:33 AM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.

He's not a big fan of Zooropa, Original Soundtracks, or Pop so I think you're spot on.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 24, 2015, 01:18:16 AM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
I disagree completely.
Well as said above he dislikes Passengers, Pop and Zooropa it would seem which I think it is fair to say are the more experimental records in the bands cannon and i recall he was anti the stuff Bono and Edge brought to the table for the AB sessions which was influenced by electronica, dance and industrial... The hats v haircuts stuff.....
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Poswatz on August 24, 2015, 07:49:10 AM
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For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.

Truth.  For example I'm glad they scrapped the working titles 'Long Road to the Nobel', 'Don't Stop Campaigning' and 'One More (Donation) Just For Grins'.

And thankfully they also got rid of:

Apple (We love you)
Another Grammy Please
Song for MOR Radio
Tax Efficiency
A weeks wage for a gig ticket

Don't forget "Gunning for an EGOT"
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: macfoley on August 24, 2015, 04:56:42 PM
Got the mag, on the tour it does say it will go into next year.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Mr. Red on August 24, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.

1000000000000000% correct. You took the words directly out of my mouth. There is a very OCD quality to him and significant rigidity that's for sure. Didn't he also wear the hoop earring with the dangling cross for 30 years as well!!?? If it was up to Larry, they should have made  the WAR record 13 times over!!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 24, 2015, 09:27:49 PM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.

1000000000000000% correct. You took the words directly out of my mouth. There is a very OCD quality to him and significant rigidity that's for sure. Didn't he also wear the hoop earring with the dangling cross for 30 years as well!!?? If it was up to Larry, they should have made  the WAR record 13 times over!!

Yeah so larry may be resistant. But I do think he is trying more to be out of his comfort. He's used electronic drums all over the last record. Invisible is an example of him changing. And we all agree SOI is a decent album. So I'm happy with his current direction. And he is sporting a new haircut this tour
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 24, 2015, 10:20:16 PM
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For me most titles are irrelevant and you can't begin to try and 2nd guess a sound from a title...

But with certain titles and u2 apprehension abounds.

Truth.  For example I'm glad they scrapped the working titles 'Long Road to the Nobel', 'Don't Stop Campaigning' and 'One More (Donation) Just For Grins'.

And thankfully they also got rid of:

Apple (We love you)
Another Grammy Please
Song for MOR Radio
Tax Efficiency
A weeks wage for a gig ticket

Don't forget "Gunning for an EGOT"

Hah!  That should be an album title!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: PieBlaCon on August 24, 2015, 10:30:12 PM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
I disagree completely.
Well as said above he dislikes Passengers, Pop and Zooropa it would seem which I think it is fair to say are the more experimental records in the bands cannon and i recall he was anti the stuff Bono and Edge brought to the table for the AB sessions which was influenced by electronica, dance and industrial... The hats v haircuts stuff.....

I know I've read his views on Pop, but I'm shocked to find out he doesn't like Zooropa (my 2nd fav U2 album). His work on "Stay" and "Daddy's Gonna Pay..." are among his best, especially "Stay" which I think might be my favorite drumming on a U2 track.

He didn't have anything bad to say about Zooropa on the ep of UTU2TM when they had a good discussion over it.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Groovy on August 25, 2015, 05:37:11 AM
This is true. A lot of U2's great music has come out of this friction between Larry's conservatism and the rest, but I agree he is holding them back. Especially when they make albums. His B.S. detector stuff is needed the rest of the time though...
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.

Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: stigman on August 25, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
I disagree completely.
Well as said above he dislikes Passengers, Pop and Zooropa it would seem which I think it is fair to say are the more experimental records in the bands cannon and i recall he was anti the stuff Bono and Edge brought to the table for the AB sessions which was influenced by electronica, dance and industrial... The hats v haircuts stuff.....
wow have you ever anything positive too say nag nag nag it's never ending
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 25, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
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I often think Larry is the one who holds u2 back musically the most. He has this rep for being no nonsense Larry and all that and I reckon he is more inclined to be the one pushing against the  experimental stuff....he hasn't changed his haircut in 30 years and I don't think he wants the music to change much either.
I disagree completely.
Well as said above he dislikes Passengers, Pop and Zooropa it would seem which I think it is fair to say are the more experimental records in the bands cannon and i recall he was anti the stuff Bono and Edge brought to the table for the AB sessions which was influenced by electronica, dance and industrial... The hats v haircuts stuff.....
wow have you ever anything positive too say nag nag nag it's never ending

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Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: acrobat62 on August 25, 2015, 12:11:44 PM
In that article, Larry not happy with SOI release "stunt".

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/25/larry-mullen-jr-was-uncomfortable-with-u2-album-release-stunt
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: macfoley on August 25, 2015, 12:28:27 PM
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In that article, Larry not happy with SOI release "stunt".

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/25/larry-mullen-jr-was-uncomfortable-with-u2-album-release-stunt

I read in the Q article that also he is not happy with the way the album sounds either.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 25, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
What do you guys want? Do you think larry should be kicked out LOLOLOLOL. It's his personality and opinions. He's obsessed with older music like elvis. I doubt he listens to hip hop.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jordan on August 25, 2015, 03:54:36 PM
IIRC, Larry once said he wanted to go back and "finish" pop, which implies that must like the core songs somewhat.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Boom Cha! on August 25, 2015, 04:04:11 PM
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What do you guys want? Do you think larry should be kicked out LOLOLOLOL. It's his personality and opinions. He's obsessed with older music like elvis. I doubt he listens to hip hop.

Yep we all want Larry kicked out of the band. /s

In reality he does seem to be the most grounded band member and I'm sure because of that he's prevented us from hearing some more experimental or interesting tunes from the band. On the flip-side, I'm sure he's also prevented us from hearing some way-out-there, weird, pretentious crap.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 25, 2015, 04:54:41 PM
2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.

2. "U2 frontman Bono also repeated his belief the rockers made mistakes in the way they handled the album release, adding, "Giving people a free gift, it's hard to get it wrong. But we could have explained the intention behind it and we didn't. That was a big mistake."

Umm, Bono... the reason you did not explain your true intentions is because that would have been even worse.  'Um, so we're getting old and we're desperate and as such we have bargained with Apple to force this into your playlist so that you will notice us and listen to us.... and oh yeah we can avoid any talk of lack of hits or singles purchases because that becomes irrelevant...'

Anyway, I hate to dredge up the past, but since the band are doing it, might as well call this revisionist sh**e what it is...
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: ecadad on August 25, 2015, 05:04:49 PM
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IIRC, Larry once said he wanted to go back and "finish" pop, which implies that must like the core songs somewhat.

Or it means he dislikes it so much he wants to improve it so to be less of an embarrassment to him
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 25, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.

2. "U2 frontman Bono also repeated his belief the rockers made mistakes in the way they handled the album release, adding, "Giving people a free gift, it's hard to get it wrong. But we could have explained the intention behind it and we didn't. That was a big mistake."

Umm, Bono... the reason you did not explain your true intentions is because that would have been even worse.  'Um, so we're getting old and we're desperate and as such we have bargained with Apple to force this into your playlist so that you will notice us and listen to us.... and oh yeah we can avoid any talk of lack of hits or singles purchases because that becomes irrelevant...'

Anyway, I hate to dredge up the past, but since the band are doing it, might as well call this revisionist sh**e what it is...
I'm not following your first point. The album did not download automatically. Ever. It was uploaded into everyone's cloud which isn't a download. The cloud is online. People had the power to download. They're not backfiring or blaming anything.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: an tha on August 26, 2015, 12:56:22 AM
"We did a deal with apple, we wanted to get the album heard by as many people as possible so we stuck it where everybody could get at it. If you didn't like it delete.End of."

Should be their line on the release.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 26, 2015, 01:44:16 AM
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"We did a deal with apple, we wanted to get the album heard by as many people as possible so we stuck it where everybody could get at it. If ypu didn't like it delete.End of."

Should be their line on the release.


Yep, nothing wrong with that.If people don't like it, don't listen/delete it.First world problems and all.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 26, 2015, 12:50:01 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.

2. "U2 frontman Bono also repeated his belief the rockers made mistakes in the way they handled the album release, adding, "Giving people a free gift, it's hard to get it wrong. But we could have explained the intention behind it and we didn't. That was a big mistake."

Umm, Bono... the reason you did not explain your true intentions is because that would have been even worse.  'Um, so we're getting old and we're desperate and as such we have bargained with Apple to force this into your playlist so that you will notice us and listen to us.... and oh yeah we can avoid any talk of lack of hits or singles purchases because that becomes irrelevant...'

Anyway, I hate to dredge up the past, but since the band are doing it, might as well call this revisionist sh**e what it is...
I'm not following your first point. The album did not download automatically. Ever. It was uploaded into everyone's cloud which isn't a download. The cloud is online. People had the power to download. They're not backfiring or blaming anything.

The quote was from the article - not me.  My response was the line that begins with the word 'hilarious'.  Now that being said, the music was in fact 'downloaded' to users' devices when they synced to their itunes account.  You are correct that the album was placed everyone's' cloud account, but once you synced, shazam.

If you want to argue technical points, be my guest, but the point of the snafu is clear and it wasn't a 'mistake' as the band have been trying to claim.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: summerrain on August 27, 2015, 12:50:02 AM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.

2. "U2 frontman Bono also repeated his belief the rockers made mistakes in the way they handled the album release, adding, "Giving people a free gift, it's hard to get it wrong. But we could have explained the intention behind it and we didn't. That was a big mistake."

Umm, Bono... the reason you did not explain your true intentions is because that would have been even worse.  'Um, so we're getting old and we're desperate and as such we have bargained with Apple to force this into your playlist so that you will notice us and listen to us.... and oh yeah we can avoid any talk of lack of hits or singles purchases because that becomes irrelevant...'

Anyway, I hate to dredge up the past, but since the band are doing it, might as well call this revisionist sh**e what it is...
I'm not following your first point. The album did not download automatically. Ever. It was uploaded into everyone's cloud which isn't a download. The cloud is online. People had the power to download. They're not backfiring or blaming anything.

The quote was from the article - not me.  My response was the line that begins with the word 'hilarious'.  Now that being said, the music was in fact 'downloaded' to users' devices when they synced to their itunes account.  You are correct that the album was placed everyone's' cloud account, but once you synced, shazam.

If you want to argue technical points, be my guest, but the point of the snafu is clear and it wasn't a 'mistake' as the band have been trying to claim.

I enjoy the technical points! So you are saying that even users that didn't change their default settings downloaded the songs? I think if that were the case then every itunes user downloaded SOI... Is that what you are saying?

I thought you had to have the "automatically download purchases" option set to ON in order for that to happen. It's something that by default is set to OFF. So according to me the automatic download thing is not something that happened to everyone, only for those who changed their default settings.


Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jick on August 27, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
Thanks for sharing the link to scans of the magazine. I gave it a read and it seems Mullen Jr is the most well-grounded and sensible member of U2.

Great read.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Groovy on August 27, 2015, 08:36:24 AM
Are there any better scans available? This is the only i could find but its a bit too blurry...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207830906637225&set=a.10207830902837130.1073742008.1431822183&type=3&theater
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Mozz on August 27, 2015, 10:27:28 AM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on August 27, 2015, 10:47:17 AM

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Are there any better scans available? This is the only i could find but its a bit too blurry...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207830906637225&set=a.10207830902837130.1073742008.1431822183&type=3&theater

Go to the rest of my album to see the downloaded clean copies of the article.

https://www.facebook.com/jenherl/albums/10207830902837130/
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: trevgreg on August 27, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
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Are there any better scans available? This is the only i could find but its a bit too blurry...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207830906637225&set=a.10207830902837130.1073742008.1431822183&type=3&theater

Not sure if the link still works...

https://twitter.com/yapeze/status/635630299767042049
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 27, 2015, 11:42:02 AM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" – something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: JHook on August 27, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Vox on August 27, 2015, 02:36:06 PM
Thanks for posting jenniferh aka jen.  That was a great article!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 27, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

great point - and yes I think you are right - most or at least many users may not have been aware of the settings which at the time were defaulted to 'auto download'.  This is why 1) there was such backlash (it was not because the album music was in the cloud, it was the 'download to device' that caused this), and 2) it is why Apple had to build and deploy a removal tool for the album to get it out of your library.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 27, 2015, 03:07:55 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Canadanne on August 27, 2015, 03:30:23 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

It wasn't in my library either, and I couldn't even find it in the web store - I had to follow the link from U2.com!
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: AltonDalton on August 27, 2015, 03:48:37 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

It wasn't in my library either, and I couldn't even find it in the web store - I had to follow the link from U2.com!
yeah same here. What's weird about that is that I found out about it like 3 hours later when i was casually going through buzzfeed
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 27, 2015, 05:53:34 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

No revision here, they're right. It only automatically downloaded if you had your features set to do so; which only a minority do. The backlash was a combination of that minority plus the people who saw it in their Cloud and assumed it had also downloaded. But let's keep things in perspective; there certainly weren't 'millions' complaining about it. I very much doubt there were even tens of thousands for that matter.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Groovy on August 28, 2015, 05:47:25 AM
Thank you very much  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 28, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" – something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

I'm not trying to revise anything thanks.Album wasn't automatically downloaded in my iTunes.End of.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: podiumboy on August 28, 2015, 12:29:22 PM
Add me to the list of people who had to actively search and figure out how to get SOI in my iTunes.  That's why I didn't understand why everyone was so mad at first.  But my God were people mad.  I remember my Facebook newsfeed was flooded with people complaining.  Hard to believe that was almost a year ago.

I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: pdk on August 28, 2015, 12:42:47 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

No revision here, they're right. It only automatically downloaded if you had your features set to do so; which only a minority do. The backlash was a combination of that minority plus the people who saw it in their Cloud and assumed it had also downloaded. But let's keep things in perspective; there certainly weren't 'millions' complaining about it. I very much doubt there were even tens of thousands for that matter.

Yep.  Exactly.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 28, 2015, 12:50:29 PM
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Add me to the list of people who had to actively search and figure out how to get SOI in my iTunes.  That's why I didn't understand why everyone was so mad at first.  But my God were people mad.  I remember my Facebook newsfeed was flooded with people complaining.  Hard to believe that was almost a year ago.

I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

I do remember the tweets with people thinking their iTunes had been hacked & debit cards used to buy the album without their consent. I think I like SOI as much as HTBAAB but it's a better album than NLOTH.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: iehomecoming on August 28, 2015, 01:23:12 PM
Young people just don't understand technology like some us older guys do.  They THINK they do, but being on twitter and instagram doesn't count.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 28, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 28, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: SlyDanner on August 28, 2015, 02:06:53 PM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.

I think people love the band, and sometimes that love manifests itself in having different memories of specific things.  I am guilty of it as well.  On this particular issue though, I just don't get why people feel the need to change the facts around the iTunes event.  It was unfortunate but whatever, it's in the past. 
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: tom_b1807 on August 28, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

No revision here, they're right. It only automatically downloaded if you had your features set to do so; which only a minority do. The backlash was a combination of that minority plus the people who saw it in their Cloud and assumed it had also downloaded. But let's keep things in perspective; there certainly weren't 'millions' complaining about it. I very much doubt there were even tens of thousands for that matter.

It just seemed like a lot because the people complaining made much more noise than the people who gave it a listen and perhaps liked it. I think it was a great thing they did, more people downloaded it than bought the Joshua Tree and if they want relevance then that's great.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Canadanne on August 28, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.

I think people love the band, and sometimes that love manifests itself in having different memories of specific things.  I am guilty of it as well.  On this particular issue though, I just don't get why people feel the need to change the facts around the iTunes event.  It was unfortunate but whatever, it's in the past.

Are you serious? You're implying that we're "misremembering" that the album wasn't actually in our iTunes library where they said it would be? I don't know why other people got it automatically and I didn't, but I didn't, and there is nothing wrong with my memory. Why would you doubt that we are telling the truth...??
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: JHook on August 28, 2015, 05:31:32 PM
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2 funniest quotes from this article:

1. "The Irish rockers teamed up with bosses at tech giant Apple to make Songs of Innocence available for free download to half a billion users, but the move almost backfired when a glitch meant the record was automatically downloaded to some clients' playlists."

Hilarious - they are trying to say it was a mistake ('glitch') which implies it was not intentional.  And it only happened to 'some clients'.  Welcome to U2's alternate reality universe.


Mine didn't automatically download. I had to go to my purchases and get it. That's because in my settings for my devices (iPhone and iPad) I don't "automatically download purchases" something the band didn't anticipate and probably most people don't know is even a feature?

Yep.I didn't realise that & was panicking wondering where my album was.

Me too.

interesting.  millions of iTunes users were complaining that they had this album forced on them, and you 2 couldn't even find it?  LOL.

you can try to revise history along with the band, but that is just silly...

No revision here, they're right. It only automatically downloaded if you had your features set to do so; which only a minority do. The backlash was a combination of that minority plus the people who saw it in their Cloud and assumed it had also downloaded. But let's keep things in perspective; there certainly weren't 'millions' complaining about it. I very much doubt there were even tens of thousands for that matter.

Besides which, what on earth would I have to gain here by "revising history?" The album did not download automatically to my device. No one's paying me to say that on a fan forum. Geez.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: JHook on August 28, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.

I think people love the band, and sometimes that love manifests itself in having different memories of specific things.  I am guilty of it as well.  On this particular issue though, I just don't get why people feel the need to change the facts around the iTunes event.  It was unfortunate but whatever, it's in the past.

Yes I love the band. Yes I had to actively choose to download the album. I'm not "changing facts." I'm quite certain that millions of people woke up and found the damn thing on their phone, but for me that was not the case. Why is this so hard for you to accept?

And no Aprilshack, I am not thick. You might want to roll back the personal insults.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Waffles on August 28, 2015, 06:46:54 PM
It certainly didn't download onto my phone. I had to go to iTunes to download it. And even then, I was having issues accessing it. Only a small amount of people actually saw it. The rest were free loaders or U2 fans
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: wlomaco on August 28, 2015, 06:57:19 PM
OK, I am another person who had to actively fuss with my computer for over an hour to get the darn album downloaded.  I remember it vividly because it was taking so long, and I really wanted to hear it, and the time it was taking was incredibly frustrating.   So you are not the only one.  Once I actively downloaded it on my laptop, I recall that it showed up on my phone automatically.

I think those who had it land on their phone without actively downloading had that happen due to personal itunes settings.  I apparently didn't have certain settings in place that made it automatic.  Some people did.  Some people didn't.  I'd agree, this shouldn't be so hard to accept. 


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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.

I think people love the band, and sometimes that love manifests itself in having different memories of specific things.  I am guilty of it as well.  On this particular issue though, I just don't get why people feel the need to change the facts around the iTunes event.  It was unfortunate but whatever, it's in the past.

Yes I love the band. Yes I had to actively choose to download the album. I'm not "changing facts." I'm quite certain that millions of people woke up and found the damn thing on their phone, but for me that was not the case. Why is this so hard for you to accept?

And no Aprilshack, I am not thick. You might want to roll back the personal insults.
Title: Re: U2 on cover Q Magazine
Post by: Aprilshack on August 29, 2015, 05:19:25 AM
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I feel like U2 have bounced back from that "disaster", although SOI will always have that unfortunate asterisk associated with it.  I'm very interested to see what happens with SOE, if anything.  All I can say is nearly a year later I still love SOI, which is more than I could say for HTDAAB and NLOTH.

100% agree with you.

My earlier comments, for those who seem to have a different memory of this than me (and everyone else outside the U2 fan alternate universe) is that the auto sync from the iTunes cloud did happen for a whole lot of people that use this feature. This is precisely why Apple had to build and deploy a fix to remove the album. 

People here are actually saying they had a hard time finding the album when Bono himself acknowledged at the time they did not mean to put it in everyone's personal playlist and Apple also had to apologize.  Amazing.  Either this is willful ignorance coupled with defending the band at all costs, or U2 have some of the most technologically backward fans on earth.

Anyway, people will remember what they want to remember.  And I say this as someone who was and is happy to have received the free music.  But being a fan does not mean defending every single thing the band does...

Sorry for not knowing iTunes inside out.Jesus. Basically it sounds like you are saying the people who couldn't find it are liars or are thick.I'm not defending the band,i actually think doing what they did with SOI wasn't their smartest move.

I think people love the band, and sometimes that love manifests itself in having different memories of specific things.  I am guilty of it as well.  On this particular issue though, I just don't get why people feel the need to change the facts around the iTunes event.  It was unfortunate but whatever, it's in the past.

Yes I love the band. Yes I had to actively choose to download the album. I'm not "changing facts." I'm quite certain that millions of people woke up and found the damn thing on their phone, but for me that was not the case. Why is this so hard for you to accept?

And no Aprilshack, I am not thick. You might want to roll back the personal insults.

I didn't say you were thick.You may want to read my post again. I was saying that it seemed SlyDanner was calling people thick/technologically backward for not finding the album.