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Title: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: zoo adam on November 18, 2016, 06:09:39 AM
In a 3 year period, after Revolver and their last tour, The Beatles released well over 100 new songs. Several of them classics, together with some duds. To be fair they were also prodigious while touring, which was and always will be the exception to the rule.

U2 and other big bands today will never churn out albums while touring. They will also never release over 100 songs in a 3 year period if they stopped touring. However if touring stopped, surely an album a year could be released.

Touring is very important for U2. And very important for the fans. However U2 don't need the money and new material will still sell without a tour.  Fans are fans because they like the music.

Songs of Innocence showed U2 can still write good songs. In the twilight of their creativity,  would fans prefer a break from touring and a final flurry of songs over the next few years, or the usual album/tour scenario ?
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: John Galt on November 18, 2016, 06:18:31 AM
It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: riffraff on November 18, 2016, 06:19:04 AM
U2 love to tour. They love to play live music for their fans. So...

I want another tour...I'm getting old...need to see them again before, well, you know what happens when you get old.

Sure, I'd love to see new albums, new songs, new creations by U2. But, I REALLY need another tour. Just one more, boys, just one more time.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: zoo adam on November 18, 2016, 06:27:26 AM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes.

As mentioned they don't need the money. So may prefer to just stay in the studio and produce a final flurry of good music over a 4 or 5 year period. U2 will be defined primarily from their body of music. 

They could always do a tour afterwards.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: JFW on November 18, 2016, 06:27:48 AM
The touring shouldn't stop. Couldn't be at the last tour (tickets were sold out or way too expensive), but will never let that happen again. But if they'd stopped, it has the consequence I will never see them live...
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: John Galt on November 18, 2016, 06:29:24 AM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes.

As mentioned they don't need the money. So may prefer to just stay in the studio and  leave a final flurry of good music over a 4 or 5 year period.  They could always do a tour afterwards.

Need has got nothing to do with it.



Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: an tha on November 18, 2016, 07:23:40 AM
hasn't all the money in music now shifted to touring...

therefore a band who are as fond of a pound note as u2 are aren't gonna jib touring any time soon...
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: Thunder Peel on November 18, 2016, 07:32:48 AM
I feel like the tours give the band something to aim for. If all they did is record with no promise of shows then I suspect we'd never get anything at all. They spend far too long tinkering in the studio as it is; giving them even more time to do that would lead to years of them spinning their wheels with no results. The album/tour structure at least gives them some balance that they desperately need.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: zoo adam on November 18, 2016, 08:13:14 AM
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I feel like the tours give the band something to aim for. If all they did is record with no promise of shows then I suspect we'd never get anything at all. They spend far too long tinkering in the studio as it is; giving them even more time to do that would lead to years of them spinning their wheels with no results. The album/tour structure at least gives them some balance that they desperately need.

I believe it could be the other way around.

After a tour and then break, it's already been a long time since the last album. The next album will be the first in years and will be what they base the next huge tour on.  So they spend a long time second guessing themselves as they know how important the next album is.

U2 may enjoy having the freedom to release new material which doesn't have to support a huge tour. And may not spend so much time over analysing material. Knowing they can release more new material quickly due to not touring.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: John Galt on November 18, 2016, 08:25:56 AM
I expected them to spread out their touring schedules as they get well into their fifties.  They needed a break after the last 70+ shows in 2015 but I just hope they've made good use of the touring break to finish up the new album.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: xy on November 18, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
I don't know that they would necessarily write and record an album and *not promote it live. If they don't play live anymore - presumably down to health issues - would they not just call it a day ?

Also, what Thunder Peel said. No touring would give them even more time to procrastinate with music.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: ShankAsu on November 18, 2016, 11:42:23 AM
U2 would never stop touring if they continue to put out new music.  They're now known more for their groundbreaking stage designs and showmanship than they are for their music.  Plus U2 has already recorded hundreds of songs.  Their days of possibly putting out a wealth of material are more than likely gone.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: SlyDanner on November 18, 2016, 03:56:37 PM
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I don't know that they would necessarily write and record an album and *not promote it live. If they don't play live anymore - presumably down to health issues - would they not just call it a day ?

Also, what Thunder Peel said. No touring would give them even more time to procrastinate with music.

or they could release a more experimental album without having to worry about how they are going to play it live.  that's been a big issue for them.  the more artsy and interesting songs do not always translate well in concert
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: codeguy on November 18, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people still think U2 cares about the money ..... If all they cared about was money, they'd have stopped making albums years ago and only toured. In case you have not noticed - U2 has only played 76 dates in the last 5 years
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: an tha on November 18, 2016, 05:31:29 PM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people still think U2 cares about the money ..... If all they cared about was money, they'd have stopped making albums years ago and only toured. In case you have not noticed - U2 has only played 76 dates in the last 5 years

lazy gets
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: SlyDanner on November 18, 2016, 05:40:29 PM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people still think U2 cares about the money ..... If all they cared about was money, they'd have stopped making albums years ago and only toured. In case you have not noticed - U2 has only played 76 dates in the last 5 years

you really believe they don't care about money?  seriously???
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: ahittle on November 19, 2016, 12:12:02 PM
In this market, without a tour a U2 album would slip off a radar in a week, sad to say.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: briscoetheque on November 19, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
The comparison to the beatles would work if this were, say, 1986.

You're comparing a band at their peak (the beatles) to a band sadly a long way past theirs. Still good, yes, but this isn't a band about to release the Joshua tree...
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: John Galt on November 19, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
Even then it wouldn't work because U2 made a lot of money from touring the Joshua Tree in 1987 compared to what The Beatles would have made from touring in 1966.

To the other point, it's na´ve to think that financial considerations don't play a big part in what u2 do or indeed what the Beatles did.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: xy on November 19, 2016, 02:12:58 PM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people still think U2 cares about the money ..... If all they cared about was money, they'd have stopped making albums years ago and only toured. In case you have not noticed - U2 has only played 76 dates in the last 5 years
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I don't know that they would necessarily write and record an album and *not promote it live. If they don't play live anymore - presumably down to health issues - would they not just call it a day ?

Also, what Thunder Peel said. No touring would give them even more time to procrastinate with music.

or they could release a more experimental album without having to worry about how they are going to play it live.  that's been a big issue for them.  the more artsy and interesting songs do not always translate well in concert

This late in the game, you really think they'd even consider doing that ? Playing live was always a big part of their appeal to the masses.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: an tha on November 19, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
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I don't know that they would necessarily write and record an album and *not promote it live. If they don't play live anymore - presumably down to health issues - would they not just call it a day ?

Also, what Thunder Peel said. No touring would give them even more time to procrastinate with music.

or they could release a more experimental album without having to worry about how they are going to play it live.  that's been a big issue for them.  the more artsy and interesting songs do not always translate well in concert

cracking idea...would be great if they did.

they won't.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: SlyDanner on November 19, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
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It would great if the band concentrated on making a late career magical trilogy, but there's no money in it so why would they bother?

Back in the 1960s releasing new music was where the money was, while touring was largely a tax write-off used for promotional purposes. 

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people still think U2 cares about the money ..... If all they cared about was money, they'd have stopped making albums years ago and only toured. In case you have not noticed - U2 has only played 76 dates in the last 5 years
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I don't know that they would necessarily write and record an album and *not promote it live. If they don't play live anymore - presumably down to health issues - would they not just call it a day ?

Also, what Thunder Peel said. No touring would give them even more time to procrastinate with music.

or they could release a more experimental album without having to worry about how they are going to play it live.  that's been a big issue for them.  the more artsy and interesting songs do not always translate well in concert

This late in the game, you really think they'd even consider doing that ? Playing live was always a big part of their appeal to the masses.

well they did it with Passengers.  Maybe they could break out of the old playbook and do it again, as U2 this time. 

Who knows really... would like to be surprised though versus the same old song and dance (pun intended)
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: So Cruel on November 19, 2016, 02:38:22 PM
U2 don't need to stop touring and they don't need to take years to create an album. They could accomplish both and still have lots of holiday time.

Yr 1
1st half - write and record album
2nd half - tour N. America

Yr2
Vacation

Yr3
1st half - write and record album
2nd half - tour International

Yr 4
Vacation

Yr 5
1st half - write and record album
2nd half - tour N. America

Rinse and repeat over the next ten years. We get a lot off music and shows. They work 5 years and get 5 years off. Everyone wins. To bad I'm not their manager.
Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: an tha on November 19, 2016, 02:50:53 PM
anyone would think flying first class around the world playing a few shows and recording music was hard work...

Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: John Galt on November 19, 2016, 02:57:31 PM
But they don't want to work more than they already do on U2.  It's not they can't, it's that they don't want to.



Title: Re: U2 quitting touring to concentrate on song writing ?
Post by: riffraff on November 20, 2016, 04:20:53 AM
oh brother.