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Title: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: andrewau2 on December 03, 2016, 03:01:18 PM
I never skip a track on Achtung Baby, but will skip Babyface off Zooropa and If God Will Send His Angels off Pop.  However, since 2000 there are more than a few tracks I'll skip and would be fine if U2 never played them live. Some are too slow, boring, have cringe worthy lyrics, or are too religious.  I'm curious to see which ones you feel strongest about.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: briscoetheque on December 03, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Stuck in a mid Tempo piece of crap tune you can't get out of.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: Blueyedboy on December 03, 2016, 04:01:03 PM
Unfortunately it's albums that I've been skipping since 2000 onwards.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 03, 2016, 04:01:06 PM
Well the worst (and there is plenty to choose from) aren't on your list IMO...but out of those that are POE and Yahweh are the two for me.

Toe curlingly bad, both of them - really poor stuff.
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Post by: tigerfan41 on December 03, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
Wild Honey. It's probably my least favorite track of theirs from 2000-2014. I don't care for the lyrics, I don't care for the melody, I don't really care for any of it. It's too poppy and without any substance to justify the poppiness.

At least with PoE and Yahweh, the lyrics have some substance. Not my favorite tracks by far, but they're listenable.
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Post by: il_capo on December 03, 2016, 04:08:34 PM
Got to be Yahweh for me, one of their worst songs ever.  The others on the list all have a certain charm to me. 
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Post by: Kite32 on December 03, 2016, 04:27:19 PM

How in the name of God does this poll sum up the worst songs of the 2000's when there are so many sh** songs?
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Post by: andrewau2 on December 03, 2016, 04:28:42 PM
White as Snow is just so slow and boring and a copy of O Come Emmanuel. 

The chorus of Yahweh is pretty bad but a few of the verses are ok.
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Post by: tigerfan41 on December 03, 2016, 04:38:02 PM
Well yeah, but U2 are far from the first artist to take a melody from a classic song and apply it to their own song (there's a Springsteen song that melody-wise sounds a lot like, I think, Ave Maria? It's been a while since I listened to it). Not that I agree with it, and WaS isn't one of my favorites.

Agreed on Yahweh, but I kinda view that song like 40. Simple, but for religious folks, it's a nice song.
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Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 03, 2016, 06:28:25 PM
I would pick "Peace on Earth" simply because of they lyrical cheese factor :p
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Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on December 03, 2016, 11:34:17 PM
A lot of people are mentioning Peace On Earth... a song that's so boring I literally cannot even remember how it sounds. For that reason, I went with SFS (it is a fresh turd) and Wild Honey. Almost went with Yahweh over the former.
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Post by: riffraff on December 04, 2016, 03:59:41 AM
I choose TIWYCFMN...I don't know why, but I just don't care for it.
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Post by: Neil Young, man! on December 04, 2016, 06:19:07 AM
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I choose TIWYCFMN...I don't know why, but I just don't care for it.

Same here. White as snow does not belong on the Top Turd list in my opinion.
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Post by: benpoke on December 04, 2016, 07:19:26 AM
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I choose TIWYCFMN...I don't know why, but I just don't care for it.

Same here. White as snow does not belong on the Top Turd list in my opinion.

Yeah, I actually like White As Snow.  At least it's them trying something a bit different.
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Post by: Lizard on December 04, 2016, 12:41:48 PM
TIWYCFMN is the only one in the list I don't like. All the others I quite like.
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Post by: SlyDanner on December 04, 2016, 12:50:10 PM
How is Boots not on this list?  It is an absolute crime of a song.  SUC as well for that matter.

On this list I have to say AMAAW.  Wow it is so bad.

WAS is probably the most overrated.  A terrible, pretentious effort that tries to hard to be esoteric and artsy.
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Post by: Rasmus on December 04, 2016, 01:27:22 PM
TIWYCRMN is one of my favorite post-2000 U2 songs. White as Snow is my favorite on No Line.

Yahweh is a true turd.
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Post by: The Preacher on December 05, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
Song for Someone is a great tune! Not on the list but I could happily live without hearing City of Blinding Lights again. It really is a poor rewrite of Where The Streets Have No Name.
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Post by: Marvinho on December 05, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
A Man and a Woman is dire and by far my worst ever U2 song. It's just so utterly bland, like the sort of muzak you'd hear in a shopping mall full of soulless fashion boutiques.  I can't stand to listen to it and it's probably the only track of theirs that I always skip when listening to a CD in the car.  I seem to recall hearing an acoustic version though at some point in the past which wasn't any near as offensively bland.

Peace on Earth is skippable more for the terrible lyrics. So corny it's laughable which is a major problem I have with most (though not all) of the All That You Can't Leave Behind LP. Get On Your Boots is often skipped on CD when driving as it's blooming awful but it was great live on the 360 tour and I loved it. The crowd at Wembley went barmy for it too. Maybe it could have been a really good song? The only other song I'd consider skipping every so often is Love Rescue Me. It just seems to go on and on and on and on ...
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Post by: Thunder Peel on December 05, 2016, 10:31:55 AM
Out of that list I voted for POE. I don't hate it but it's my least-favorite on the album and it feels like it could have been pulled off in a much better fashion.
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Post by: ultravioletacrobat on December 05, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Get On Yer Boots..... steaming pile of manure
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Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 11:05:09 AM
a song that sums up u2 in the 00's - mid paced MOR, never really goes anywhere, grand themes but saying nothing really, very safe and just super dull for me is When I Look at The World.
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Post by: The Exile on December 05, 2016, 11:06:55 AM
Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.
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Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 11:09:12 AM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...
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Post by: U2_One on December 05, 2016, 11:32:02 AM
I've only heard Yahweh and SFS live, and both worked fine enough for their place in the setlist for me during Vertigo and I & E. TIWYCRMN is the one I'd want to hear live. For this poll, I'd go with AMAAW.
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Post by: The Exile on December 05, 2016, 11:32:14 AM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.
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Post by: SlyDanner on December 05, 2016, 11:36:55 AM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

Gents, please see below.  This is from a song that gets a lot of praise around here... why I am not sure... the lyrics are just as bad if not worse that POE...

Where I came from there were no hills at all
The land was flat, the highway straight and wide
My brother and I would drive for hours
Like we had years instead of days
Our faces as pale as the dirty snow

And then it gets even worse:

And the water, it was icy
As it washed over me
And the moon shone above me
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Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 11:40:07 AM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

I actually like Peace on Earth - we can laugh at the simple rhymes because we're too mature and sophisticated for them, but the lyric of the song is more interesting to me than SBS.  I'd say of the 3 most obvious songs about the troubles (the 3rd being Please) SBS is lyrically the worst. 

As for worst songs I'd have voted Stand Up Comedy if it had been an option.
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Post by: The Exile on December 05, 2016, 11:44:09 AM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

Gents, please see below.  This is from a song that gets a lot of praise around here... why I am not sure... the lyrics are just as bad if not worse that POE...

Where I came from there were no hills at all
The land was flat, the highway straight and wide
My brother and I would drive for hours
Like we had years instead of days
Our faces as pale as the dirty snow

And then it gets even worse:

And the water, it was icy
As it washed over me
And the moon shone above me

Sorry, I didn't catch that. I was busy sleeping the night and shooting out the stars....
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 05, 2016, 12:08:47 PM
Lol, I'd like to see those who are criticizing the lyrics of certain songs write better lyrics than Bono.  ;D

Seriously, when you've written lyrics for 20+ years, it gets a little hard to not repeat ideas. And if you have a certain writing style, it gets a little hard to write differently. Not gonna say these songs are lyrical masterpieces, but they're far better than a lot of songs released in the last 15-20 years.

And I think if the lyrics are weak, it's probably better to focus on the rest of the song. How are the vocals? The guitar? The bass? The drums? Lyrics aren't the only thing that determines a great song. For instance, lots of people LOVE "Yellow" by Coldplay, yet the lyrics for that song are really atrocious.
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Post by: John Galt on December 05, 2016, 12:34:47 PM
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Lol, I'd like to see those who are criticizing the lyrics of certain songs write better lyrics than Bono.  ;D

Seriously, when you've written lyrics for 20+ years, it gets a little hard to not repeat ideas. And if you have a certain writing style, it gets a little hard to write differently. Not gonna say these songs are lyrical masterpieces, but they're far better than a lot of songs released in the last 15-20 years.

And I think if the lyrics are weak, it's probably better to focus on the rest of the song. How are the vocals? The guitar? The bass? The drums? Lyrics aren't the only thing that determines a great song. For instance, lots of people LOVE "Yellow" by Coldplay, yet the lyrics for that song are really atrocious.

I can see you're a glass half full kind of gal, tigerfan.

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Post by: THRILLHO on December 05, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
obviously ABOY is the worst, but since you didn't list that one

AMAAW and Wild Honey
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Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 12:52:34 PM
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Lol, I'd like to see those who are criticizing the lyrics of certain songs write better lyrics than Bono.  ;D

Seriously, when you've written lyrics for 20+ years, it gets a little hard to not repeat ideas. And if you have a certain writing style, it gets a little hard to write differently. Not gonna say these songs are lyrical masterpieces, but they're far better than a lot of songs released in the last 15-20 years.

And I think if the lyrics are weak, it's probably better to focus on the rest of the song. How are the vocals? The guitar? The bass? The drums? Lyrics aren't the only thing that determines a great song. For instance, lots of people LOVE "Yellow" by Coldplay, yet the lyrics for that song are really atrocious.

People who can't write lyrics feeling superior shocker! 

You're right about Yellow, but I've never been a Coldplay fan.
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Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 01:22:57 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.
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Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 01:52:01 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P
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Post by: Rasmus on December 05, 2016, 01:52:40 PM
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a song that sums up u2 in the 00's - mid paced MOR, never really goes anywhere, grand themes but saying nothing really, very safe and just super dull for me is When I Look at The World.

I love that song. Generally I love Bono when he is at his most doubtful and vulnerable as in this song and fx. Wake Up Dead Man. And it has a great line:

When the night is someone else's, and you're trying to get some sleep
When your thoughts are too expensive to ever wanna keep
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Post by: U2boy14 on December 05, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
Yahweh is one of my faves, the acoustic version being best
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Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 02:10:42 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
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Post by: riffraff on December 05, 2016, 02:33:00 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?
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Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine

I've always wondered why it is "Thom" Yorke rather than "Tom" Yorke.  Did anyone call themselves "Thom" before Radiohead made it big? 
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: dan on December 05, 2016, 03:14:00 PM
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A Man and a Woman is dire and by far my worst ever U2 song. It's just so utterly bland, like the sort of muzak you'd hear in a shopping mall full of soulless fashion boutiques.  I can't stand to listen to it and it's probably the only track of theirs that I always skip when listening to a CD in the car.  I seem to recall hearing an acoustic version though at some point in the past which wasn't any near as offensively bland.

Peace on Earth is skippable more for the terrible lyrics. So corny it's laughable which is a major problem I have with most (though not all) of the All That You Can't Leave Behind LP. Get On Your Boots is often skipped on CD when driving as it's blooming awful but it was great live on the 360 tour and I loved it. The crowd at Wembley went barmy for it too. Maybe it could have been a really good song? The only other song I'd consider skipping every so often is Love Rescue Me. It just seems to go on and on and on and on ...

If you log on to youtube and put on love rescue me, with Keith Richards and Ziggy Marley, to do with a Jamaican hurricane money raising concert, you will change your opinion, I promise.
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Post by: SlyDanner on December 05, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

Gents, please see below.  This is from a song that gets a lot of praise around here... why I am not sure... the lyrics are just as bad if not worse that POE...

Where I came from there were no hills at all
The land was flat, the highway straight and wide
My brother and I would drive for hours
Like we had years instead of days
Our faces as pale as the dirty snow

And then it gets even worse:

And the water, it was icy
As it washed over me
And the moon shone above me

Sorry, I didn't catch that. I was busy sleeping the night and shooting out the stars....

 ;D 8) :o
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Post by: SlyDanner on December 05, 2016, 03:20:14 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...
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Post by: ShankAsu on December 05, 2016, 03:40:23 PM
Surprised SFS isn't running away with this one.  Its constantly getting bashed on here.
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Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 03:56:18 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: SlyDanner on December 05, 2016, 04:09:57 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 04:36:06 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping

I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping

I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me

I can't believe life's so complex
When all i wanna do is watch an tha undress

It's not just the cloth-headed Bonos of the world... even the greats are guilty of rhymes and half rhymes
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 04:53:45 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping

I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me

I can't believe life's so complex
When all i wanna do is watch an tha undress

It's not just the cloth-headed Bonos of the world... even the greats are guilty of rhymes and half rhymes

Always found those lines great...sexy and a good commentary on when you are in that just wanna jump someone phase of a relationship...
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 05, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
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Lol, I'd like to see those who are criticizing the lyrics of certain songs write better lyrics than Bono.  ;D

Seriously, when you've written lyrics for 20+ years, it gets a little hard to not repeat ideas. And if you have a certain writing style, it gets a little hard to write differently. Not gonna say these songs are lyrical masterpieces, but they're far better than a lot of songs released in the last 15-20 years.

And I think if the lyrics are weak, it's probably better to focus on the rest of the song. How are the vocals? The guitar? The bass? The drums? Lyrics aren't the only thing that determines a great song. For instance, lots of people LOVE "Yellow" by Coldplay, yet the lyrics for that song are really atrocious.

I can see you're a glass half full kind of gal, tigerfan.

It's partially that and partially because I wrote lyrics when I was younger (late teens/early 20s) so I understand the complexities of it, especially once you've gotten past a few dozen songs. You get set in your ways of lyric writing (for me, it was A/B/A/B rhyming style) and eventually it gets difficult to not repeat lines. And that was just after writing 40-50 song lyrics myself. I can only imagine what it's like when you've wrote hundreds.

Probably why Bono tends to reuse lyrics/say the same thing again, but slightly differently, so much.

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People who can't write lyrics feeling superior shocker! 

You're right about Yellow, but I've never been a Coldplay fan.

Haha, yeah, you'd think they were Bob Dylan or something, right? Judging lyric writing and all.  ;)

I like "Yellow," and a lot of CP's early work, but I can admit the lyrics are garbage.

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I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me

Are we comparing this to Get On Your Boots? If so, there's no comparison. Dora wins.  ;D

Seriously, why didn't Swiper get more songs? He was the one good thing about that show (....which I always hated watching when my nieces were younger).
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 04:57:58 PM
lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI


Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping

I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me

I can't believe life's so complex
When all i wanna do is watch an tha undress

It's not just the cloth-headed Bonos of the world... even the greats are guilty of rhymes and half rhymes

Always found those lines great...sexy and a good commentary on when you are in that just wanna jump someone phase of a relationship...

Or just keeping jumping relationships if you quest longevity of that phase.   And if you can't have that live it vicariously through your record collection instead.

I do actually like the lyric and the song, but I'm a sucker for simplicity, especially when its of the primal lust variety.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: emalvick on December 05, 2016, 05:00:08 PM
For the list provided, Wild Honey and SFS.  Some of those other songs are bad, but it does get tough when looking at all of U2's output.  Hearing demos for some of the songs makes me think they can be decent enough.  Yahweh is a song I don't mind hearing live; my only complaint is songs like that start to become redundant with older U2 songs, which is really a big issues with U2's 2000's stuff. 

As for rhyming, I don't really think it is a problem except when the rhymes are weak.  Some of them make me cringe these days.  Also, I always felt that some cheesy rhyming by Bono prior to 2000 were somewhat tongue in cheek; i.e. even when they were bad, I felt Bono new they are bad or purposely did it that way.  These days, it just seems like the lyrics Bono writes are attempts at making something grand, but they always fall flat.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 05, 2016, 05:01:10 PM
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Peace on Earth is perhaps the biggest mound of crap U2 has ever produced. "Where I come from there weren't many trees, but when there was we'd tear them down and use them on our enemies." Really? And you wrote A Sort of Homecoming, and Heartland, and Do You Feel Loved?

Wow.

A tragic symptom of Bono's 00's "trick" of rhyming lines as much as possible.....why i'll never know!...

To be fair he did it on Pop as well.

True...just largely with better subject matter...

I am not a fan of rhyming couplets really in songs especially when they are overused.

Next you'll be telling us how irritatingly repetitive you find rhythm  :P

I'm no Thom Yorke...more Thomas the Tank Engine
Isn't he the one who said "I think I can, I think I can"?

Honestly if we are going to compare B's lyrics to those of animated children story characters, then you really need to include Dora the Explorer.  I mean there is some potent stuff there....  'Come on let's get to it, I know that we can do it...'  If that's not inspired by some of the stuff on NLOTH I don't know what is...

Beats elevation hands down...

Backpack, backpack!
Backpack, backpack!

On the backpack loaded up with things and knickknack's too
Anything that you might need I got inside for you

Swiper no swiping

I love my Boots, my boots and me
They help me swing from tree to tree
I feel so happy with them on my feet
We're best friends, yeah my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me
I love my boots, yeah, my boots and me

I can't believe life's so complex
When all i wanna do is watch an tha undress

It's not just the cloth-headed Bonos of the world... even the greats are guilty of rhymes and half rhymes

Always found those lines great...sexy and a good commentary on when you are in that just wanna jump someone phase of a relationship...

Or just keeping jumping relationships if you quest longevity of that phase.   And if you can't have that live it vicariously through your record collection instead.

I do actually like the lyric and the song, but I'm a sucker for simplicity, especially when its of the primal lust variety.

Primal is a good description of that song lyrically and sonically...although polly jean could recite the phone book and i think i would be hooked!
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: John Galt on December 05, 2016, 05:03:19 PM
I voted Peace on Earth.

Like someone else said I would have voted for ABOY if it were an option on account of the ear splitting intro.

 

Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: andrewau2 on December 05, 2016, 05:15:14 PM
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a song that sums up u2 in the 00's - mid paced MOR, never really goes anywhere, grand themes but saying nothing really, very safe and just super dull for me is When I Look at The World.

What song is MOR?  Do you mean Miracle of Ramone or Moment of Rurrender? Mothers of the Risappeared?

Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 05, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
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lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI

Kim is more primal for me than Polly - but that's partly thanks to the songs she got to sing in the Pixies - Gigantic, and her vocals on songs like I Bleed.  Polly looks fantastic in the "Gouge" documentary where she waxes lyrical about the Pixies.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: andrewau2 on December 05, 2016, 05:27:27 PM
I didn't put "Miracle Drug" or "All Because of You" as choices because even though they have cringe-worthy lyrical moments ("Freedom smells like the top of a new born baby's head") and an eardrum piercing screech (the dissonant off-key delivery of the opening notes Bono sings in 2nd line of each chorus ("Ah-all because of you"), the rest of the music (i.e. Edge's guitar and solos) make up for Bono's faults and bring the songs out of "worst" range IMHO. 

Same thing with SUC and Boots, the music is great, especially being heavy on the guitars.  Boots live was an improvement too.  Just by the fact that these songs have more guitar and are more rocking, they were "elevated" out of the choices for worst songs.

The slow, plodding, or super overtly religious songs on this poll make them far worse choices than those left off the list.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 05, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
    I actually really like "Stand Up Comedy".  And, having had three children, I do sort of get the lyric about freedom "smelling like the top of a newborn baby's head".
     I think An Tha's right, though; "When I Look At the World" was a low point.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 05, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
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    I actually really like "Stand Up Comedy".  And, having had three children, I do sort of get the lyric about freedom "smelling like the top of a newborn baby's head".
     I think An Tha's right, though; "When I Look At the World" was a low point.

Maybe it's corny to admit it, but I really like that lyric about freedom. No kids here, so I can't use that as an excuse to like it.  ;) I think it's because I really like lyrics that "cleverly" express a thought.

I actually like SUC as well. I mean, it's not their finest work, but lyrically it's a fun track.

Gonna have to disagree with WILATW. The album came out roughly a year before 9/11. I remember hearing that track probably a year or two post-9/11 and thinking how apt it seemed to be considering the current climate of the world. Particularly:

"I'm in the waiting room
Can't see for the smoke
I think of you and your holy book
While the rest of us choke"

Considering what happened with 9/11 and who was behind it (and why they did it), those lyrics pretty perfectly describe the event. To me, the song describes all of the messed up things that happen in the world and are "justified" by religion...but that the person singing the song just can't understand how it can be justified or how to believe in God when so many awful things are happening (what kind of god would allow people to die in such horrific ways?).

What's funny (or sad) is that the song is still applicable 16 years later. We're still dealing with senseless killings in the name of god. Even the strongest of faith are still struggling to understand how any god could allow so many awful things to happen in this world.

I will agree that lyrically, the song isn't extremely strong, but the meaning is conveyed pretty well.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: SlyDanner on December 05, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
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    I actually really like "Stand Up Comedy".  And, having had three children, I do sort of get the lyric about freedom "smelling like the top of a newborn baby's head".
     I think An Tha's right, though; "When I Look At the World" was a low point.

Maybe it's corny to admit it, but I really like that lyric about freedom. No kids here, so I can't use that as an excuse to like it.  ;) I think it's because I really like lyrics that "cleverly" express a thought.

I actually like SUC as well. I mean, it's not their finest work, but lyrically it's a fun track.

Gonna have to disagree with WILATW. The album came out roughly a year before 9/11. I remember hearing that track probably a year or two post-9/11 and thinking how apt it seemed to be considering the current climate of the world. Particularly:

"I'm in the waiting room
Can't see for the smoke
I think of you and your holy book
While the rest of us choke"

Considering what happened with 9/11 and who was behind it (and why they did it), those lyrics pretty perfectly describe the event. To me, the song describes all of the messed up things that happen in the world and are "justified" by religion...but that the person singing the song just can't understand how it can be justified or how to believe in God when so many awful things are happening (what kind of god would allow people to die in such horrific ways?).

What's funny (or sad) is that the song is still applicable 16 years later. We're still dealing with senseless killings in the name of god. Even the strongest of faith are still struggling to understand how any god could allow so many awful things to happen in this world.

I will agree that lyrically, the song isn't extremely strong, but the meaning is conveyed pretty well.

totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: Kite32 on December 06, 2016, 01:54:33 AM
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Lol, I'd like to see those who are criticizing the lyrics of certain songs write better lyrics than Bono.  ;D

Seriously, when you've written lyrics for 20+ years, it gets a little hard to not repeat ideas. And if you have a certain writing style, it gets a little hard to write differently. Not gonna say these songs are lyrical masterpieces, but they're far better than a lot of songs released in the last 15-20 years.

And I think if the lyrics are weak, it's probably better to focus on the rest of the song. How are the vocals? The guitar? The bass? The drums? Lyrics aren't the only thing that determines a great song. For instance, lots of people LOVE "Yellow" by Coldplay, yet the lyrics for that song are really atrocious.

Yes but herein lies the problem. You can get away with bad lyrics if the tune is epic. I don't care much for Coldplay but Yellow has a fine melody and a rousing chorus. Run by Snowpatrol is another example. Many of boons latter day lyrics are awful but then so are the melodies/music meaning the songs don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 06, 2016, 02:16:42 AM
WILATW might be better if it wasn't set to such plodding music.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 06, 2016, 02:55:44 AM
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    I actually really like "Stand Up Comedy".  And, having had three children, I do sort of get the lyric about freedom "smelling like the top of a newborn baby's head".
     I think An Tha's right, though; "When I Look At the World" was a low point.

Maybe it's corny to admit it, but I really like that lyric about freedom. No kids here, so I can't use that as an excuse to like it.  ;) I think it's because I really like lyrics that "cleverly" express a thought.

I actually like SUC as well. I mean, it's not their finest work, but lyrically it's a fun track.

Gonna have to disagree with WILATW. The album came out roughly a year before 9/11. I remember hearing that track probably a year or two post-9/11 and thinking how apt it seemed to be considering the current climate of the world. Particularly:

"I'm in the waiting room
Can't see for the smoke
I think of you and your holy book
While the rest of us choke"

Considering what happened with 9/11 and who was behind it (and why they did it), those lyrics pretty perfectly describe the event. To me, the song describes all of the messed up things that happen in the world and are "justified" by religion...but that the person singing the song just can't understand how it can be justified or how to believe in God when so many awful things are happening (what kind of god would allow people to die in such horrific ways?).

What's funny (or sad) is that the song is still applicable 16 years later. We're still dealing with senseless killings in the name of god. Even the strongest of faith are still struggling to understand how any god could allow so many awful things to happen in this world.

I will agree that lyrically, the song isn't extremely strong, but the meaning is conveyed pretty well.

totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.

ah that is a whole new can if worms...'bono does self deprecating lyrics'....hey bono, please don't it's sh**e when you do really sh**e
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Post by: an tha on December 06, 2016, 03:29:02 AM
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lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI

Kim is more primal for me than Polly - but that's partly thanks to the songs she got to sing in the Pixies - Gigantic, and her vocals on songs like I Bleed.  Polly looks fantastic in the "Gouge" documentary where she waxes lyrical about the Pixies.

The two greatest women in music for me....hard to separate them in terms of who is greater in my book.

In fact as u2 have slid so far post Pop both are probably pretty much slugging it out right at the top of the best of all time list for me.
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Post by: Dali on December 06, 2016, 04:10:58 AM
Since I rarely play HTDAAB anymore, the song that I skip the most comes from one of the other albums.
There is only one song from other albums mentioned in the poll which I do skip and that one is called "Peace On Earth".

However, I always skip "Breathe", too.
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 04:22:28 AM
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    I actually really like "Stand Up Comedy".  And, having had three children, I do sort of get the lyric about freedom "smelling like the top of a newborn baby's head".
     I think An Tha's right, though; "When I Look At the World" was a low point.

Maybe it's corny to admit it, but I really like that lyric about freedom. No kids here, so I can't use that as an excuse to like it.  ;) I think it's because I really like lyrics that "cleverly" express a thought.

I actually like SUC as well. I mean, it's not their finest work, but lyrically it's a fun track.

Gonna have to disagree with WILATW. The album came out roughly a year before 9/11. I remember hearing that track probably a year or two post-9/11 and thinking how apt it seemed to be considering the current climate of the world. Particularly:

"I'm in the waiting room
Can't see for the smoke
I think of you and your holy book
While the rest of us choke"

Considering what happened with 9/11 and who was behind it (and why they did it), those lyrics pretty perfectly describe the event. To me, the song describes all of the messed up things that happen in the world and are "justified" by religion...but that the person singing the song just can't understand how it can be justified or how to believe in God when so many awful things are happening (what kind of god would allow people to die in such horrific ways?).

What's funny (or sad) is that the song is still applicable 16 years later. We're still dealing with senseless killings in the name of god. Even the strongest of faith are still struggling to understand how any god could allow so many awful things to happen in this world.

I will agree that lyrically, the song isn't extremely strong, but the meaning is conveyed pretty well.

totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.

I'm another who likes WILATW in particular.  Obviously it's another religious song, but I like both the song and lyric.  It is good if people have taken the song to help them interpret events they've been through.

We can laugh at it, but I bet if any of us had the romance to write a lyric like Miracle Drug we'd be dating someone more beautiful than we are. 

And I even like the line "every beauty needs to go out with an idiot" - what could be a more comforting comment when your partner leaves you for someone else?   Who needs Zen when we have Bono.
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 04:28:17 AM
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lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI

Kim is more primal for me than Polly - but that's partly thanks to the songs she got to sing in the Pixies - Gigantic, and her vocals on songs like I Bleed.  Polly looks fantastic in the "Gouge" documentary where she waxes lyrical about the Pixies.

The two greatest women in music for me....hard to separate them in terms of who is greater in my book.

In fact as u2 have slid so far post Pop both are probably pretty much slugging it out right at the top of the best of all time list for me.

I like them both but I kind of went off the Breeders after a while.  I recall listening to Pod one time and finding it rather vacuous compared to the Pixies albums.  I saw the Breeders live a few times but I don't go anymore.  I think Polly is a more accomplished songwriter and artist.  She's done such a great amount of diverse and inventive music this past 25 years - every album is a radical break from the previous one - so like you I am a very big admirer.
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Post by: georgemccauley on December 06, 2016, 06:56:29 AM
White as Snow for me. There's not one bad track on ATYCLB i find myself never skipping any tracks from that record
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Post by: an tha on December 06, 2016, 07:01:35 AM
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lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI

Kim is more primal for me than Polly - but that's partly thanks to the songs she got to sing in the Pixies - Gigantic, and her vocals on songs like I Bleed.  Polly looks fantastic in the "Gouge" documentary where she waxes lyrical about the Pixies.

The two greatest women in music for me....hard to separate them in terms of who is greater in my book.

In fact as u2 have slid so far post Pop both are probably pretty much slugging it out right at the top of the best of all time list for me.

I like them both but I kind of went off the Breeders after a while.  I recall listening to Pod one time and finding it rather vacuous compared to the Pixies albums.  I saw the Breeders live a few times but I don't go anymore.  I think Polly is a more accomplished songwriter and artist.  She's done such a great amount of diverse and inventive music this past 25 years - every album is a radical break from the previous one - so like you I am a very big admirer.

No question Polly is the more diverse and inventive....there are few musicians who can hold a candle to her in that respect.

Kim is more narrow in her works scope but for me she is the best at what she does, the standard bearer at what she does....often imitated never bettered.

They are very different animals but both to me wondrous ones.

Did you ever listen to The Amps - Pacer..  an often overlooked or maligned Kim side project from the 90's.....i listened to it today for the first time in years and remembered how much i loved it originally...
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Post by: Thunder Peel on December 06, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
Lyrically I think WILATW is great and features some interesting insights from Bono. The music isn't anything special but the lyrics easily make up for it.
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Post by: John Galt on December 06, 2016, 08:35:26 AM
I used to think ATYCLB was a barren wilderness beyond Walk On - which is why I think they frontloaded the album - but these days I'm a bit more charitable.



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Post by: Smee on December 06, 2016, 08:45:37 AM
I happen to like all the songs listed....so im not playing...so there  :P
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 08:48:37 AM
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lyrics of course aren't the be all and end all...

this is one of my favourite songs...no awards for lyrics of the year here i think it is fair to say....delivery of lyrics is probably more important.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7F3vWGQsVI

Kim is more primal for me than Polly - but that's partly thanks to the songs she got to sing in the Pixies - Gigantic, and her vocals on songs like I Bleed.  Polly looks fantastic in the "Gouge" documentary where she waxes lyrical about the Pixies.

The two greatest women in music for me....hard to separate them in terms of who is greater in my book.

In fact as u2 have slid so far post Pop both are probably pretty much slugging it out right at the top of the best of all time list for me.

I like them both but I kind of went off the Breeders after a while.  I recall listening to Pod one time and finding it rather vacuous compared to the Pixies albums.  I saw the Breeders live a few times but I don't go anymore.  I think Polly is a more accomplished songwriter and artist.  She's done such a great amount of diverse and inventive music this past 25 years - every album is a radical break from the previous one - so like you I am a very big admirer.

No question Polly is the more diverse and inventive....there are few musicians who can hold a candle to her in that respect.

Kim is more narrow in her works scope but for me she is the best at what she does, the standard bearer at what she does....often imitated never bettered.

They are very different animals but both to me wondrous ones.

Did you ever listen to The Amps - Pacer..  an often overlooked or maligned Kim side project from the 90's.....i listened to it today for the first time in years and remembered how much i loved it originally...

I just about remember the Amps - was a long time ago!  Do you know Kim's vocal contribution to Ultra Vivid Scene?  If not here's an Xmas present for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXogd90ju7g  Certificate 18 for violence at the 3 minute mark.
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Post by: The Hair of Martin Gore on December 06, 2016, 09:38:05 AM
none of the options rank among their worst!

these are my five least favorite

vertigo
window in the skies
love and peace or else
original of the species
stand up comedy

all of htdaab is bad though and a worst of the 80s or 90s is 1000x better than that overly polished sh**
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Post by: tigerfan41 on December 06, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
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totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.

 :o I can't believe Sly and I agree on something!  ;D

That lyric always cracks me up. It sounds like he's singing about himself (being the idiot....he seems to be pretty self-deprecating). I know some probably take that lyric as just an observation from him (like the use of "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle") but I take it the other way.

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I'm another who likes WILATW in particular.  Obviously it's another religious song, but I like both the song and lyric.  It is good if people have taken the song to help them interpret events they've been through.

We can laugh at it, but I bet if any of us had the romance to write a lyric like Miracle Drug we'd be dating someone more beautiful than we are. 

And I even like the line "every beauty needs to go out with an idiot" - what could be a more comforting comment when your partner leaves you for someone else?   Who needs Zen when we have Bono.

WILATW definitely isn't a traditional religious song, in that it criticizes faith. I think that's partly why I like it. Being a believer, I can relate to doubting things and trying hard to understand how so many bad things can happen when God is in charge...so I get the crisis of faith, so to speak.

Funny you bring up the romance of the lyrics. My oldest niece and I were discussing the other day why she dislikes SFS--since she always makes fun of it whenever I listen to it. She likes the music and vocals itself, but thinks Bono's romantic lyrics are totally insincere.  ;D I guess that ruins the whole thing for her?

Anyway, it is definitely true that being good with words can help you to land someone who would otherwise be out of your league.

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Lyrically I think WILATW is great and features some interesting insights from Bono. The music isn't anything special but the lyrics easily make up for it.

I think lyrically it's a little simple in most parts, but I love the honesty of the underlying message. So, totally agree with you.
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 05:23:00 PM
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totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.

 :o I can't believe Sly and I agree on something!  ;D

That lyric always cracks me up. It sounds like he's singing about himself (being the idiot....he seems to be pretty self-deprecating). I know some probably take that lyric as just an observation from him (like the use of "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle") but I take it the other way.

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I'm another who likes WILATW in particular.  Obviously it's another religious song, but I like both the song and lyric.  It is good if people have taken the song to help them interpret events they've been through.

We can laugh at it, but I bet if any of us had the romance to write a lyric like Miracle Drug we'd be dating someone more beautiful than we are. 

And I even like the line "every beauty needs to go out with an idiot" - what could be a more comforting comment when your partner leaves you for someone else?   Who needs Zen when we have Bono.

WILATW definitely isn't a traditional religious song, in that it criticizes faith. I think that's partly why I like it. Being a believer, I can relate to doubting things and trying hard to understand how so many bad things can happen when God is in charge...so I get the crisis of faith, so to speak.

Funny you bring up the romance of the lyrics. My oldest niece and I were discussing the other day why she dislikes SFS--since she always makes fun of it whenever I listen to it. She likes the music and vocals itself, but thinks Bono's romantic lyrics are totally insincere.  ;D I guess that ruins the whole thing for her?

Anyway, it is definitely true that being good with words can help you to land someone who would otherwise be out of your league.

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Lyrically I think WILATW is great and features some interesting insights from Bono. The music isn't anything special but the lyrics easily make up for it.

I think lyrically it's a little simple in most parts, but I love the honesty of the underlying message. So, totally agree with you.

Yes, WILATW is a troubled religious song, but not as dark and hopeless as a song like Wake Up Dead Man.  The resignation of the songs on Pop becomes a restless attempt to punch against his frustrations on WILATW, and I like that.  Protest is more compelling that giving up?

I think Bono is sincere on SFS I think the lyrics on SOI are good because hes writing about something he really relates to and inspires him the formative experiences he had when he was young.  Your niece seems a bit too cynical about the song, but Bono does rub up a lot of people the wrong way, so fair play to her.  I do like the song and that line at the end Im a long way from your hill of Calvary. 
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Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 06, 2016, 05:28:18 PM
Would you say that Bono sings more emotively to Jesus than to Ali?  He often doesn't seem to quite pull off the romantic lyric. His romantic lyrics often contain a note of wry irony..."With or Without You", "Sweetest Thing", et. al.
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 05:34:25 PM
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Would you say that Bono sings more emotively to Jesus than to Ali?  He often doesn't seem to quite pull off the romantic lyric. His romantic lyrics often contain a note of wry irony..."With or Without You", "Sweetest Thing", et. al.

I'm not sure I consider WOWY a romantic song.  I think you may be onto something though - he could well sing more emotively in his religious songs.  That said he's pretty emotive on AB which isn't a particularly religious album - his vocal on Acrobat is passionate.
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Post by: tigerfan41 on December 06, 2016, 06:11:11 PM
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Yes, WILATW is a troubled religious song, but not as dark and hopeless as a song like Wake Up Dead Man.  The resignation of the songs on Pop becomes a restless attempt to punch against his frustrations on WILATW, and I like that.  Protest is more compelling that giving up?

I think Bono is sincere on SFS I think the lyrics on SOI are good because hes writing about something he really relates to and inspires him the formative experiences he had when he was young.  Your niece seems a bit too cynical about the song, but Bono does rub up a lot of people the wrong way, so fair play to her.  I do like the song and that line at the end Im a long way from your hill of Calvary.

Totally with you on WILATW vs. the Pop stuff.

Lol, I agree with you, she is pretty cynical, being a teenager and all. What's funny is she claims that lyrics don't matter as much to her (lyrics have a big influence on whether or not I like a song) but yet she hates some songs just because of their lyrics. Particularly U2 songs.  ::) Her favorite band is GnR, though, so I'm able to hit her back with some criticism of their songs, haha.

I also like that lyric at the end. I know some people tire of Bono's "clever" lyrics/comparisons between things, but I like quite a few of them. I enjoy it when things are expressed in less of a straight forward way.

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Would you say that Bono sings more emotively to Jesus than to Ali?  He often doesn't seem to quite pull off the romantic lyric. His romantic lyrics often contain a note of wry irony..."With or Without You", "Sweetest Thing", et. al.

This is a super interesting thought. It seems like in his romantic lyrics, he's either being witty, ironic, or self-deprecating. Can't really pull off the uber-sappy, romantic lyric that perhaps other rock lyricists can. Which honestly, I think that's a good thing.

I mean, even AMAAW isn't a straight up love song, but rather one declaring fidelity to a person (or at least it's interpreted that way).

Regarding what songs have more emotion, that depends on your definition. The religious songs tend to be more serious lyrically, while the "love" songs tend to be less serious and contain a bit of humor. So from that perspective, yeah, he's definitely more emotive with the religious songs.

Although, hasn't it been said (maybe by Bono himself?) that really all of their songs could be interpreted as being about God? They'll all pretty open to interpretation, save for AMAAW.
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Post by: andrewau2 on December 06, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
Funny how some songs lyrics can save a song even if the music isn't that great just like a real guitar heavy rocking music can save a song even if the lyrics aren't up to par. 

The best U2 songs are, of course, when both the lyrics and music (including vocal melody/delivery) are great.

The worst U2 songs are, of course, when they both don't and are on this poll (since 2000).
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Post by: il_capo on December 06, 2016, 06:33:01 PM
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Yes, WILATW is a troubled religious song, but not as dark and hopeless as a song like Wake Up Dead Man.  The resignation of the songs on Pop becomes a restless attempt to punch against his frustrations on WILATW, and I like that.  Protest is more compelling that giving up?

I think Bono is sincere on SFS I think the lyrics on SOI are good because hes writing about something he really relates to and inspires him the formative experiences he had when he was young.  Your niece seems a bit too cynical about the song, but Bono does rub up a lot of people the wrong way, so fair play to her.  I do like the song and that line at the end Im a long way from your hill of Calvary.

Totally with you on WILATW vs. the Pop stuff.

Lol, I agree with you, she is pretty cynical, being a teenager and all. What's funny is she claims that lyrics don't matter as much to her (lyrics have a big influence on whether or not I like a song) but yet she hates some songs just because of their lyrics. Particularly U2 songs.  ::) Her favorite band is GnR, though, so I'm able to hit her back with some criticism of their songs, haha.

I also like that lyric at the end. I know some people tire of Bono's "clever" lyrics/comparisons between things, but I like quite a few of them. I enjoy it when things are expressed in less of a straight forward way.

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Would you say that Bono sings more emotively to Jesus than to Ali?  He often doesn't seem to quite pull off the romantic lyric. His romantic lyrics often contain a note of wry irony..."With or Without You", "Sweetest Thing", et. al.

This is a super interesting thought. It seems like in his romantic lyrics, he's either being witty, ironic, or self-deprecating. Can't really pull off the uber-sappy, romantic lyric that perhaps other rock lyricists can. Which honestly, I think that's a good thing.

I mean, even AMAAW isn't a straight up love song, but rather one declaring fidelity to a person (or at least it's interpreted that way).

Regarding what songs have more emotion, that depends on your definition. The religious songs tend to be more serious lyrically, while the "love" songs tend to be less serious and contain a bit of humor. So from that perspective, yeah, he's definitely more emotive with the religious songs.

Although, hasn't it been said (maybe by Bono himself?) that really all of their songs could be interpreted as being about God? They'll all pretty open to interpretation, save for AMAAW.

You know, I was like your niece when I was a teenager lyrics didnt matter to me either, it was all about sound.  Even now in my old age I kind of have to force myself to pay attention to the lyrics of songs as Im not as intelligent and connected to the layers in songs as my fellow listeners  :)

If it cheers her up, you can tell your niece I bought tickets for GnR today Im not going myself but my friend is and insisted I got presale tickets for her.  Apparently I am to be rewarded with chocolates.

Although I dont pay that much attention to lyrics when forced to by more intelligent friends I have been able to notice that pretty much all Bonos lyrics are religious in one way or another.
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Post by: SlyDanner on December 06, 2016, 10:52:23 PM
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totally agree.  I like both Miracle Drug and WILATW.  Both great tunes. 

At the same time, I can appreciate why people can't stand them.

Now, as for those complaining about rhymes.  Come on folks.  Does it get any better than 'every sweet tooth needs a little hit, every beauty needs an idiot'.... sheer brilliance.  Dang.

 :o I can't believe Sly and I agree on something!  ;D

That lyric always cracks me up. It sounds like he's singing about himself (being the idiot....he seems to be pretty self-deprecating). I know some probably take that lyric as just an observation from him (like the use of "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle") but I take it the other way.

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I'm another who likes WILATW in particular.  Obviously it's another religious song, but I like both the song and lyric.  It is good if people have taken the song to help them interpret events they've been through.

We can laugh at it, but I bet if any of us had the romance to write a lyric like Miracle Drug we'd be dating someone more beautiful than we are. 

And I even like the line "every beauty needs to go out with an idiot" - what could be a more comforting comment when your partner leaves you for someone else?   Who needs Zen when we have Bono.

WILATW definitely isn't a traditional religious song, in that it criticizes faith. I think that's partly why I like it. Being a believer, I can relate to doubting things and trying hard to understand how so many bad things can happen when God is in charge...so I get the crisis of faith, so to speak.

Funny you bring up the romance of the lyrics. My oldest niece and I were discussing the other day why she dislikes SFS--since she always makes fun of it whenever I listen to it. She likes the music and vocals itself, but thinks Bono's romantic lyrics are totally insincere.  ;D I guess that ruins the whole thing for her?

Anyway, it is definitely true that being good with words can help you to land someone who would otherwise be out of your league.

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Lyrically I think WILATW is great and features some interesting insights from Bono. The music isn't anything special but the lyrics easily make up for it.

I think lyrically it's a little simple in most parts, but I love the honesty of the underlying message. So, totally agree with you.

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Post by: DK46 on December 07, 2016, 08:39:12 AM
I became a U2 fan around the time of ATYLCB, so there's loads of nostalgia for that record.  Wild Honey, while not a great song, is just a fun throwaway number for me.  It's catchy and I just remember digging it as a young teenager, so there's that.  It was also used in Vanilla Sky, which for some reason, stood out to me.  Peace On Earth never did much for me and it's just endlessly corny, bits of it I like, but overall, it's lazy to me.

For me, the thing about U2 is they can write extremely catchy melodies, but the lyrics are not always a home run.  So, A Man and a Woman, despite the Sting-ness of it, is catchy.  It's just a dull arrangement, and the production of it like nearly all of HTDAAB is uninspired and polished.   The live version (only one I think) of Bono and Edge at the Clinton Foundation performance in 2011 was actually kinda tolerable.  It seemed to work better stripped down. 

The other tracks, yeah, don't really care for Yahweh, it's just cringe to the max.  White As Snow has something going for it, I do like the bridge a lot and I like the more experimental elements of NLOTH, a decent album, which could've been bolder and better.

Song for Someone is blah.  I don't care for it and It bores me, as do the first four tracks on SOI (albeit I kinda enjoy California).  The Miracle, however, is just...yikes.  TIWYCRMN is really catchy, it's not my favorite track on SOI, but I dig it.  I like the back half of SOI, so that's a song I can generally get behind and I think live it could be quite an upbeat number.
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Post by: aviastar on December 07, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
Boots.  Also Vertigo.

To me, it's like they had some modicum of popular appeal with Elevation in 2000, then four years later decided to double down on it with Vertigo.  But Vertigo was a like a crappier version of it.  Then, they decided to take it to the point of absurdity in 2009 with Boots.  It's all part of the same line of thought to me - kind of blaring whorling techrock...same beat, etc...nothing really dynamically or thematically interesting about it.  It was good the first time (Elevation), but it wore on me pretty quickly.

Honestly, during the 3-5 year downtimes between albums I start to sour on their music a little bit.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 07, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
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You know, I was like your niece when I was a teenager lyrics didnt matter to me either, it was all about sound.  Even now in my old age I kind of have to force myself to pay attention to the lyrics of songs as Im not as intelligent and connected to the layers in songs as my fellow listeners  :)

If it cheers her up, you can tell your niece I bought tickets for GnR today Im not going myself but my friend is and insisted I got presale tickets for her.  Apparently I am to be rewarded with chocolates.

Although I dont pay that much attention to lyrics when forced to by more intelligent friends I have been able to notice that pretty much all Bonos lyrics are religious in one way or another.

I was too--only started paying attention to the lyrics once I got interested in playing music/songwriting. Even then, half the time I manage to mess up/mishear the lyrics. It was pretty jarring playing U2 on Rock Band and realizing I had misheard some of the lyrics to songs that I thought I knew inside and out!

That is awesome, haha--hope those chocolates are delicious! My niece is actually bummed because GnR came to Detroit earlier this year (she went and had the time of her life) and she was hoping to see her favorite band again, for the second time in less than a year. Alas, she suffered the same fate: I thought I'd get to see U2 twice in one year (went to the 2009 Soldier Field show, had tickets for the 2010 show in East Lansing) but Bono ended up injured so that was postponed a year. I want to somehow swing it and take her to the Hershey GnR show, but given the cost of that and other concerts coming up, it's probably not gonna be doable.

Yeah, Bono definitely seems to write a lot of spiritual stuff. I think it's pretty neat and a nice departure from many rock lyrics (which are often about love, sex, or something along those lines).

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Tiger, we're going to get along fine,  just fine  8) 8) 8)

I feel so important now!  ;D Nah but seriously, good to see that we see eye to eye on something.  :)
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 08, 2016, 03:13:32 AM
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You know, I was like your niece when I was a teenager lyrics didnt matter to me either, it was all about sound.  Even now in my old age I kind of have to force myself to pay attention to the lyrics of songs as Im not as intelligent and connected to the layers in songs as my fellow listeners  :)

If it cheers her up, you can tell your niece I bought tickets for GnR today Im not going myself but my friend is and insisted I got presale tickets for her.  Apparently I am to be rewarded with chocolates.

Although I dont pay that much attention to lyrics when forced to by more intelligent friends I have been able to notice that pretty much all Bonos lyrics are religious in one way or another.

I was too--only started paying attention to the lyrics once I got interested in playing music/songwriting. Even then, half the time I manage to mess up/mishear the lyrics. It was pretty jarring playing U2 on Rock Band and realizing I had misheard some of the lyrics to songs that I thought I knew inside and out!

That is awesome, haha--hope those chocolates are delicious! My niece is actually bummed because GnR came to Detroit earlier this year (she went and had the time of her life) and she was hoping to see her favorite band again, for the second time in less than a year. Alas, she suffered the same fate: I thought I'd get to see U2 twice in one year (went to the 2009 Soldier Field show, had tickets for the 2010 show in East Lansing) but Bono ended up injured so that was postponed a year. I want to somehow swing it and take her to the Hershey GnR show, but given the cost of that and other concerts coming up, it's probably not gonna be doable.

Yeah, Bono definitely seems to write a lot of spiritual stuff. I think it's pretty neat and a nice departure from many rock lyrics (which are often about love, sex, or something along those lines).

When I was a teenager I misheard all of Bonos lyrics, but I blame him for singing so badly at the time hes all over the place at Red Rocks, and its no wonder they had to use another concert to make up the bulk of the UABRS release.

The GnR show tickets are the best part of 100 each, and Im not going to pay that to stand in a field seeing a band I was never a fan of.  To be honest, all the talk of chocolates and eternal gratitude have gone amiss since she found out I had actually got the tickets - if I don't get the chocolates soon I'm going to sell the tickets to someone else  :P

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Tiger, we're going to get along fine,  just fine  8) 8) 8)

I feel so important now!  ;D Nah but seriously, good to see that we see eye to eye on something.  :)
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Nice to see everyone getting along in the forum  :)
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 08, 2016, 03:28:55 PM
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When I was a teenager I misheard all of Bonos lyrics, but I blame him for singing so badly at the time hes all over the place at Red Rocks, and its no wonder they had to use another concert to make up the bulk of the UABRS release.

The GnR show tickets are the best part of 100 each, and Im not going to pay that to stand in a field seeing a band I was never a fan of.  To be honest, all the talk of chocolates and eternal gratitude have gone amiss since she found out I had actually got the tickets - if I don't get the chocolates soon I'm going to sell the tickets to someone else  :P

Yeah! It kinda amazes me how many of the lyrics I actually don't hear correctly, even today. And this is after growing up listening to Pearl Jam. You'd think if I could understand their lyrics, I'd understand U2's.

Totally get what you mean, for bands I'm not a huge fan of, there's a limit to how much I'll spend to take in a concert. If I were you, I'd tell her to make with the chocolate or no Axl.  ;D

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Nice to see everyone getting along in the forum  :)

Until the next thread where we completely disagree.  ;)
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 08, 2016, 04:36:32 PM
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When I was a teenager I misheard all of Bonos lyrics, but I blame him for singing so badly at the time hes all over the place at Red Rocks, and its no wonder they had to use another concert to make up the bulk of the UABRS release.

The GnR show tickets are the best part of 100 each, and Im not going to pay that to stand in a field seeing a band I was never a fan of.  To be honest, all the talk of chocolates and eternal gratitude have gone amiss since she found out I had actually got the tickets - if I don't get the chocolates soon I'm going to sell the tickets to someone else  :P

Yeah! It kinda amazes me how many of the lyrics I actually don't hear correctly, even today. And this is after growing up listening to Pearl Jam. You'd think if I could understand their lyrics, I'd understand U2's.

Totally get what you mean, for bands I'm not a huge fan of, there's a limit to how much I'll spend to take in a concert. If I were you, I'd tell her to make with the chocolate or no Axl.  ;D

I actually remember buying lyrics sheets for the early albums back in the early 80s. I won't embarrass myself by quoting some of the things I thought Bono was singing before I had been enlightened by those lyric sheets. 

Given the huge demand for the GnR tickets either she gets me the chocs soon or they're going to someone more appreciative!

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Nice to see everyone getting along in the forum  :)

Until the next thread where we completely disagree.  ;)
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Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 08, 2016, 06:17:13 PM
What would you say is U2's most straight-up romantic song?  "All I Want is You"?
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 08, 2016, 07:28:59 PM
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What would you say is U2's most straight-up romantic song?  "All I Want is You"?

That or AMAW (speaking of fidelity/not wanting to lose someone, very romantic).

SFS is more of a "I made a mistake, but I'm hopeful we can finally move past this because you're who I want" romantic song.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: il_capo on December 09, 2016, 03:31:07 AM
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What would you say is U2's most straight-up romantic song?  "All I Want is You"?

That or AMAW (speaking of fidelity/not wanting to lose someone, very romantic).

SFS is more of a "I made a mistake, but I'm hopeful we can finally move past this because you're who I want" romantic song.

As well as all these songs we could add Drowning Man and Promenade - the latter really is beautiful.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: riffraff on December 09, 2016, 04:20:43 AM
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What would you say is U2's most straight-up romantic song?  "All I Want is You"?

That or AMAW (speaking of fidelity/not wanting to lose someone, very romantic).

SFS is more of a "I made a mistake, but I'm hopeful we can finally move past this because you're who I want" romantic song.

As well as all these songs we could add Drowning Man and Promenade - the latter really is beautiful.
Ah, Promenade...I always have to play this twice when I listen to TUF.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: andrewau2 on December 09, 2016, 04:53:30 PM
With all the "Yahweh" bashing in the replies, I see that "Wild Honey" and "Song For Someone" have surpassed it on the poll as of Friday, the 9th of December.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 09, 2016, 05:27:42 PM
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With all the "Yahweh" bashing in the replies, I see that "Wild Honey" and "Song For Someone" have surpassed it on the poll as of Friday, the 9th of December.

I agree with "Wild Honey." Disagree with SFS. But for whatever reason, SFS seems to be pretty hated on these forums.

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What would you say is U2's most straight-up romantic song?  "All I Want is You"?

That or AMAW (speaking of fidelity/not wanting to lose someone, very romantic).

SFS is more of a "I made a mistake, but I'm hopeful we can finally move past this because you're who I want" romantic song.

As well as all these songs we could add Drowning Man and Promenade - the latter really is beautiful.

Drowning Man is definitely more straight forward of the two (in terms of romantic lyrics), but I really like Promenade.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: an tha on December 09, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
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With all the "Yahweh" bashing in the replies, I see that "Wild Honey" and "Song For Someone" have surpassed it on the poll as of Friday, the 9th of December.

it almost defies logic that a band as renowned as u2 can have 3 songs like those....
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 09, 2016, 06:35:10 PM
Interesting that people think "Drowning Man" is romantic.  I always took it as more of a friendship thing.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 09, 2016, 09:18:50 PM
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Interesting that people think "Drowning Man" is romantic.  I always took it as more of a friendship thing.

"Take my hand
You know I'll be there
If you can
I'll cross the sky for your love
And I understand
These winds and tides
This change of times
Won't drag you away
Hold on, and hold on tightly
Hold on, and don't let go of my love"

I mean, yeah, that could be interpreted as a friendship thing, but it's very easy to take it more romantically.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: riffraff on December 10, 2016, 03:57:50 AM
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Interesting that people think "Drowning Man" is romantic.  I always took it as more of a friendship thing.

"Take my hand
You know I'll be there
If you can
I'll cross the sky for your love
And I understand
These winds and tides
This change of times
Won't drag you away
Hold on, and hold on tightly
Hold on, and don't let go of my love"

I mean, yeah, that could be interpreted as a friendship thing, but it's very easy to take it more romantically.
True romance IS friendship.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: shineinthesummernight on December 10, 2016, 06:12:03 AM
Hmmm...interesting perspective on "Drowning Man".  I'll have to re-listen to that one again.  Don't know how I missed the romantic element.  There are so many layers to U2's lyrics.
Title: Re: Worst song since 2000? Track you skip the most/don't want to hear live.
Post by: tigerfan41 on December 10, 2016, 10:52:43 AM
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Interesting that people think "Drowning Man" is romantic.  I always took it as more of a friendship thing.

"Take my hand
You know I'll be there
If you can
I'll cross the sky for your love
And I understand
These winds and tides
This change of times
Won't drag you away
Hold on, and hold on tightly
Hold on, and don't let go of my love"

I mean, yeah, that could be interpreted as a friendship thing, but it's very easy to take it more romantically.
True romance IS friendship.

The best romantic relationships have a core of friendship, that is definitely true.

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Hmmm...interesting perspective on "Drowning Man".  I'll have to re-listen to that one again.  Don't know how I missed the romantic element.  There are so many layers to U2's lyrics.

One of the many reasons why I enjoy this band's work.