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Title: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: jules on January 12, 2017, 06:54:47 AM
Genuine question, what do you think? If you answered 'something else' then explain below. Cheers.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on January 12, 2017, 06:58:52 AM
Voted for 1 and 4, though I think option 3 may have some merit.  And I think it's possible they may roadtest a new song or two.

Some folks here seem to think it's pressure from Live Nation.  You may want to add it as an option, though I don't buy it, myself.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: John Galt on January 12, 2017, 07:01:56 AM
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: jules on January 12, 2017, 07:49:22 AM
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Some folks here seem to think it's pressure from Live Nation.  You may want to add it as an option
Added ;)
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: World71R on January 12, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
The top two (I hope).

The JT 30th Anniversary Tour would be a brilliant way to build up hype for SOE, especially if they premiered the album opener right before they go on tour and play it as their opener. Then, drop the album near the end of the JT Tour in preparation for the last part of the 2017 part of the I+E Tour and the band would be set.

But I think that's all a bit of a dream and I think there's a better shot that we'll get the powerhouses on the setlists for the JT Tour, then the band will rework SOE once the Tour gets done and we'll get the album later this year or in early-2018. I would love to be proven wrong, though.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: BalconyTV on January 12, 2017, 09:05:05 AM
For love or MONEY MONEY MONEY
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: So Cruel on January 12, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
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Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: WookieeWarrior10 on January 12, 2017, 12:04:00 PM
They are not happy with SOE so buys time to look at the tracks again
It's a good way to make money
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Blueyedboy on January 12, 2017, 07:33:14 PM
It's most definatley to buy them time while they try and up the standard on the currently below par SOE. I can only assume that they have recieved lukewarm responses from those who have had alisten so far which is a good thing, shows they are not surrounded by sycophants.

Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: TheEnd on January 12, 2017, 08:20:18 PM
Bono probably got around to listening to the majesty of TJT due to the 30th anniversary and got cold feet with the new album. Live Nation expected them to be touring with a new album and the JT tour became a compromise both U2 and LN were willing to work with.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Connordo on January 12, 2017, 09:17:32 PM
It is because they are following in the footsteps of a much admired idol of theirs, The Boss.  Certainly not complaining at all as I was fortunate to catch Springsteen in many locations last year like Rome and the longest night in Jersey and now going to Dublin and Paris for these shows, can only hope and pray they dig deep and try to include some from the set lists back on the original tour.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Kite32 on January 13, 2017, 01:57:30 AM

I went for 4 and 8. Given edges ludicrous excuse for not releasing SOE it seems the only rational explanation - U2 have a contract to fulfil and I imagine there is pressure from LN for U2 to make them some money while they wait for a new album. Simples.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: bk on January 13, 2017, 03:24:40 AM
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It's most definatley to buy them time while they try and up the standard on the currently below par SOE. I can only assume that they have recieved lukewarm responses from those who have had alisten so far which is a good thing, shows they are not surrounded by sycophants.

Agreed totally.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Johnny Feathers on January 13, 2017, 07:34:18 AM
Funny that more people voted for "Pressure from Live Nation" than they did "to celebrate JT's 30th anniversary".
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: DavidSilvajnr on January 13, 2017, 08:06:02 AM
According to Q magazine, they booked themselves rehearsal space and played the tracks as a four-piece. That's what pushed the album back as they realised....."quote from the Edge.....That rehearsal room becomes like a crucible: you bash away and you start to realise where the weaknesses and where the songs are strong. Any imperfections become obvious and you purciy that work in context. Adam says they will hold it back until later in the tear and edge wants to write a 'great song about the era'......basically the songs were not strong enough!! We'll have to find out later in the year1😳
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: John Galt on January 13, 2017, 08:15:09 AM
To think Prince put together the Batman album on his own in two weeks and that sold 6 Million copies!  RIP.


Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: SwimmingSorrows on January 13, 2017, 09:27:24 AM
I think it's pretty simple.  They were saying a while back that they wanted to tour in early 2017 but that the album probably wouldn't be ready yet.  They didn't want to tour without an album to support.  The Joshua Tree revisit gives them an excuse to get on the road and gives them more time to rework SOE now that Trump's going to be President.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: John Galt on January 13, 2017, 10:08:11 AM
I'm sure I read somewhere that they recorded most of the songs in early 2016.

Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Passenger789 on January 13, 2017, 11:36:26 AM
I went w choice 1 & 5 based on Bono's interview from yesterday, I believe Bono has always been sincere. I would have chosen 3 & 6 also but choices are limited to 2  :)
http://www.u2.com/news/title/music-can-pull-people-together
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: jules on January 16, 2017, 02:29:12 AM
For me this is simple, it's options 2 and 3 i.e.

It will boost their profile so SOE will sell more
They are not happy with SOE so buys time to look at the tracks again

On the I+E tour U2 played smaller venues and I can imagine they were shocked when these didn't sell out instantly like they would have done in the late 80's and the 90s. So the JT 2017 tour is a sure fire way to get the buzz back, about going to a U2 concert. [In fact if I remember correctly (in Pimm Jal De La Parra's book U2 Live: A Concert Documentary) the demand for tickets for the indoor leg of the 1987 JT tour was so great that there were riots in Scotland. ] Also playing the Bonnaroo festival helps remind the general public what a great live band U2 are.

However if U2 knew they had a mega selling album on the way with SOE they would have rather toured that.... so there must be issues with SOE and this new JT tour gives them some breathing space.

Regarding the other options:

30th anniversary - that's just a convenient way to launch the tour, why didn't they tour for the 15th or 20th or 25th, etc. anniversary?

Good way to make money - I can almost dismiss this because U2 generally don't make too much ('net' money) on their tours since the staging is often very expensive. However the GA tickets for the outdoor JT 17 tour are more expensive than the indoor I+E tour..... which leads me to suspect they are hoping to make more money on this tour.
 
Trump's election - don't buy this one, since they manage to make political statements on all their tours.

Live nation pressure - perhaps, but usually U2 have such a powerful negotiating position when setting up their contracts they are the ones setting the agendas!

Writing / roadtesting tunes - hasn't really worked in the past (north star, glastonbury tune) so can't see this being a big factor.

That's my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: fishcci on January 17, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
I also think the JTour is SOE's "AutomaticAppleDownload"- they need to release the new album with some kind of fanfare and attention-they probably can't figure another new way to do that-I'm guessing they'd like to release it after the tour, but practically speaking, I'm not sure how they would tour the new album so soon after this tour...
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: Lizard on January 18, 2017, 03:25:58 AM
I really think their concern about the state the world is genuine and the way the explained it in the different interviews is what happened. Quite honestly why should they use politics as an excuse for what they are doing. That would make  no sense whatsoever.
If you look at that long interview that Bono did with Charlie Rose before the election you'll also hear some of these thoughts kind of at the beginning state.
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: mariamontreal on January 18, 2017, 10:12:31 AM
Money no other reason
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: jimpala on January 18, 2017, 10:49:40 AM
I voted for pressure from live nation. I thought i heard awhile back some rumors they were set to tour stadiums in 2017.  My thought is that SOE is/was not strong enough to fill stadiums, so Joshua Tree tour fills that need.  Also, puts u2 back on map for casual fans, which will most likely mean more SOE album streams or purchases (whatever is done nowadays) whenever it does come out. 


 
Title: Re: Why do you think U2 are touring the Joshua Tree in 2017?
Post by: ADDinChicago on January 18, 2017, 11:00:14 AM
It's a "filler tour", which plenty of bands do. And I think it's a combination of things. They like touring (at least I think so), There's a lot of money to be made for them and Live Nation, a stadium tour unlike 360 was due, 30 years of TJT is a good concept and there's nothing "new" to promote. It's a good way to tide the diehards over and maybe reach out to some newer/fringe fans. It should please most people that like the band or sorta like the band.