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Title: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 03, 2017, 01:23:42 PM
I'm of two minds on this latest story.

1) This is another nail in the coffin. They're now doing private performances, which at one time we'd all have agreed is on the "Thou shalt not" list. You can't blame this one on LiveNation. Jesus, guys, do you really need the money?

2) Johnny Ive has been friends with Bono for about 10 years now. Maybe this isn't what it looks like. Maybe I'm flying off the handle. Maybe not.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Jswallow on April 03, 2017, 01:28:52 PM
Has to be an April fool story, can't see them ever doing this

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Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 03, 2017, 01:38:56 PM
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Has to be an April fool story, can't see them ever doing this

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Home page confirms it isn't.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: monopoly on April 03, 2017, 02:20:39 PM
Pretty sure it's real. Zoom in on Bono, I've never seen a tribute act look as close to the real bono as the one in the picture does. He's even wearing the current glasses.

What's wrong with doing private concerts?
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 03, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
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Pretty sure it's real. Zoom in on Bono, I've never seen a tribute act look as close to the real bono as the one in the picture does. He's even wearing the current glasses.

What's wrong with doing private concerts?

It's a matter of opinion, but that's long been considered kind of a "sell-out" move. In this particular case, it's somewhat dependent on whether this was a favor for a friend, or a big payday from Ive/Apple.

I really don't like the Sellout Police in general, but I'm bringing it up now because we've been recently seeing them do some things we thought they wouldn't do (nostalgia tour), and I'm wondering if they've hit a point where they're just like "Screw it, everyone else does it".
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Spacejunk69 on April 03, 2017, 04:15:26 PM
Seriously. The band sells out because they play a private concert for some friends?

They are 100000000000000% entitled to do whatever they want, play to whom ever they want, when they want and how they want. This is the most ridiculous thread/argument I've ever seen. So what if they want to play a tiny unannounced gig somewhere. Seriously - some of you have a problem with that?
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 04:37:50 PM
i mean what about the Clinton Library show from Nov. 2011? wouldn't that be a private show?

and no this isn't a problem to me at all.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: So Cruel on April 03, 2017, 05:18:29 PM
If they play a free show for a friends birthday, no issue at all.  If they got paid to play a birthday party then Im basically at the place that the U2 I grew up with is long gone. As long as the paycheque is big enough they will be at a birthday, wedding, bar mitzvah near you. Pretty sad.

For those who say no big deal, I disagree. It cheapens the music. A song like One, With or Without You, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Bad, Pride,etc... Those songs are all emotion and passion. To sing them for some suits at a birthday party for a big cheque cheapens those songs and everything they used to stand for. I just hope they played for free for a friend.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 03, 2017, 05:21:16 PM
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i mean what about the Clinton Library show from Nov. 2011? wouldn't that be a private show?

and no this isn't a problem to me at all.

Clinton library was televised and could be considered a historical event. It wasn't someone's living room for a paycheck (which may not be a fair description of this recent performance).

I don't know; it just seems like we all used to say "One of the things that makes U2 special is they don't do this kind of stuff", and now they seem to be venturing into said "stuff" and we switch gears to saying it doesn't count.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 03, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
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If they play a free show for a friends birthday, no issue at all.  If they got paid to play a birthday party then Im basically at the place that the U2 I grew up with is long gone. As long as the paycheque is big enough they will be at a birthday, wedding, bar mitzvah near you. Pretty sad.

For those who say no big deal, I disagree. It cheapens the music. A song like One, With or Without You, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Bad, Pride,etc... Those songs are all emotion and passion. To sing them for some suits at a birthday party for a big cheque cheapens those songs and everything they used to stand for. I just hope they played for free for a friend.

This is my take exactly. You have to admit there is a difference between them going out because they are inspired and have something to say vs being a band for hire whenever someone writes a check (JUST AN EXAMPLE, I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE DOING THAT, OR THAT IF IT THE CASE THAT THIS WAS A PAID GIG THAT IT MEANS THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME).

It is fine for them to do that, but a price is paid in sacrificing a certain specialness and mystique.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 05:30:32 PM
wow. i never thought this kinda stuff was a problem. their being paid to play everywhere. i don't see the size of the event being an issue. if i'm Elon Musk and want to pay U2 to play my bday, good for me. If they play, why is that an issue? it doesn't cheapen the music cuz their playing a small private event for money.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: monopoly on April 03, 2017, 05:33:18 PM
Eh I'm perfectly fine with it. If they broadcasted it, would that make it better? It seems like some are frustrated that this concert wasn't open to the public. It's supposed to be private anyways, we're not even supposed to know about it. The meaning of the songs don't change at all for me.

If I could afford u2 at my wedding, I wouldn't think twice. I'd even request acrobat, exit, and sleep like a baby.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Vox on April 03, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
Meh...  I'm inclined to believe it was an impromptu performance at a buddy's party, given that Adam needed to borrow someone's bass.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 05:53:15 PM
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Eh I'm perfectly fine with it. If they broadcasted it, would that make it better? It seems like some are frustrated that this concert wasn't open to the public. It's supposed to be private anyways, we're not even supposed to know about it. The meaning of the songs don't change at all for me.

If I could afford u2 at my wedding, I wouldn't think twice. I'd even request acrobat, exit, and sleep like a baby.

right their saying the issue is it cheapens the music. i don't get how.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: tigerfan41 on April 03, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
I fail to see how this is selling out. They played a gig for a guy who at least Bono (and possibly Edge) are friends with, someone who probably worked with them on the SoI album release and perhaps even the U2 special edition iPod--as well as any other Apple tie-ins. This is almost akin to playing for Steve Jobs (if he were still alive) or Tim Cook--Ive is that big of a deal at Apple. Not only that, but the gig was probably a nice way to warm up for their upcoming tour.

If they were playing for just anyone (like a rich kid's birthday party) and getting paid big $$$$ to do so, then I'd be worried. But playing for a friend's 50th b-day? No big deal.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: GardenTart on April 03, 2017, 06:23:06 PM
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Meh...  I'm inclined to believe it was an impromptu performance at a buddy's party, given that Adam needed to borrow someone's bass.
+1
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: mcpaulson22 on April 03, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
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Meh...  I'm inclined to believe it was an impromptu performance at a buddy's party, given that Adam needed to borrow someone's bass.
+1

Good point! Even if they got paid, nothing to lose sleep over. Didn't even come across my mind as 'selling out'. Hope the boys put on a good concert.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
yea seriously. when the JT tour kicks off is anyone really gonna have less fun or even remember this nothing of a show? of course not.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: m2 on April 03, 2017, 10:30:25 PM
I'm pretty sure they've performed at friends' weddings -- maybe not the whole band, but just a member or two. Andrea Corr? Gavin Friday? Others? When they do that, is it objectionable? I can't imagine Bono and Adam charging Jony Ive for a performance at his birthday. Right? They've been close friends for a decade or more.

It feels to me like we've reached a point where fans are looking for things to get upset about. It's like when you get on Twitter in the morning and ask, "What are we all angry about today?"

One last point: I don't think this was a paid/corporate gig, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did a few such gigs all the way back in the 80s. I could see it being done for Island/Warner Brothers people ... or Polygram people after they bought Island ... etc. Difference being that social media didn't exist back then, so there was no opportunity for anyone to tell the world what was going on.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 10:40:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure they've performed at friends' weddings -- maybe not the whole band, but just a member or two. Andrea Corr? Gavin Friday? Others? When they do that, is it objectionable? I can't imagine Bono and Adam charging Jony Ive for a performance at his birthday. Right? They've been close friends for a decade or more.

It feels to me like we've reached a point where fans are looking for things to get upset about. It's like when you get on Twitter in the morning and ask, "What are we all angry about today?"

One last point: I don't think this was a paid/corporate gig, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did a few such gigs all the way back in the 80s. I could see it being done for Island/Warner Brothers people ... or Polygram people after they bought Island ... etc. Difference being that social media didn't exist back then, so there was no opportunity for anyone to tell the world what was going on.

this. first the JT nostalgia tour with no new album in sight, now this.

again, in a month no one is gonna bring this thing up.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: monopoly on April 03, 2017, 10:54:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure they've performed at friends' weddings -- maybe not the whole band, but just a member or two. Andrea Corr? Gavin Friday? Others? When they do that, is it objectionable? I can't imagine Bono and Adam charging Jony Ive for a performance at his birthday. Right? They've been close friends for a decade or more.

It feels to me like we've reached a point where fans are looking for things to get upset about. It's like when you get on Twitter in the morning and ask, "What are we all angry about today?"

One last point: I don't think this was a paid/corporate gig, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did a few such gigs all the way back in the 80s. I could see it being done for Island/Warner Brothers people ... or Polygram people after they bought Island ... etc. Difference being that social media didn't exist back then, so there was no opportunity for anyone to tell the world what was going on.

this. first the JT nostalgia tour with no new album in sight, now this.

again, in a month no one is gonna bring this thing up.

Not arguing but there was a little decent reason to be upset with postponing SOE. We all really thought it was coming. A anniversary tour is out of the ordinary for u2 so of course there was suspicion of the real purpose. Even after their trump explanation, I'm finding it a little difficult to see how they feel a need to do a whole tour based on the state of the world. Regardless, I'm very happy with the band and what they're doing.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 03, 2017, 11:37:10 PM
the thing is, if you know the band, i mean really follow them, they do the "album coming, oops no it's not" often. yea, we have MORE reason to believe it this time but nonetheless, they distracted us with the JT tour and gave us "uhhh were finishing the album! new ideas! trump! " etc. yes, of the things i've listed that people take issue with, the only one i have a problem with to any extent is no new album, and that i knew wasn't guaranteed.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Neil Young, man! on April 04, 2017, 12:08:16 AM
For Andrea Corr, I would perform.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Spacejunk69 on April 04, 2017, 12:11:29 AM
Like more than one person has noted and that it was clearly noted in the @U2 news story on the home page - Adam did not have his guitar with him. There is no way on earth that this was a gig they got paid for. It was unplanned and impromptu - Im certain of that. If they did get paid for it, I will be the first to hold my hand up apologize and say wow! Not a cat in hells chance - this was a free gig for some friends. That's them selling out? People have a problem with that? Good grief. Im shocked, so shocked at the reaction of some on this. The band owe you absolutely NOTHING. They can do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: This Dave on April 04, 2017, 01:09:13 AM
I attached some "if"s to my original statement. Those conditions don't seem to have been met, so I withdraw it.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: benpoke on April 04, 2017, 01:57:46 AM
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Meh...  I'm inclined to believe it was an impromptu performance at a buddy's party, given that Adam needed to borrow someone's bass.

Me too.  That drum kit is certainly not Larry's.  And Adam Clayton is standing on the wrong side of the stage to normal, so they're clearly just using another band's backline.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: riffraff on April 04, 2017, 05:28:55 AM
I agree with M2...some fans just go looking for something to be upset about. People, life is way too short to worry about such things. Just be happy that they are still performing!
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: soloyan on April 04, 2017, 05:41:35 AM
1/Since it's a private gig and we only knew because of someone posted it on Twitter, it's safe to assume they might have done it before...
2/Would it change your view if you knew all proceeds went to charity ? (I don't know, but since we don't know much about this, it's an hypothesis we have to consider)
3/I guess this comes in the  category of "U2 don't owe us anything", i/e they're free to do what they want. Am I jealous ? Hell yeah, I wish I could be there. But that's not gonna make me angry at the band.
4/There was a show in a Paris club called the Man Ray during the club tour to promote ATYCLB. This show was, in my opinion, far worse : the gig was advertised as a "secret gig for fans" but ended up as being a VIP party upstairs with a whole business that the club owners kept for themselves, U2 being wallpaper music to a VIP event.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Izzy on April 04, 2017, 08:13:40 AM
They've been playing private gigs for quite some time.

https://youtu.be/LIUPgqnc0Zc

Amazing how in-funny this is.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Mr. Sarajevo 20 on April 04, 2017, 08:29:40 AM
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Pretty sure it's real. Zoom in on Bono, I've never seen a tribute act look as close to the real bono as the one in the picture does. He's even wearing the current glasses.

What's wrong with doing private concerts?
...and those glasses are so awful. They really date him.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Kmama07 on April 04, 2017, 09:08:22 AM
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I'm pretty sure they've performed at friends' weddings -- maybe not the whole band, but just a member or two. Andrea Corr? Gavin Friday? Others? When they do that, is it objectionable? I can't imagine Bono and Adam charging Jony Ive for a performance at his birthday. Right? They've been close friends for a decade or more.

It feels to me like we've reached a point where fans are looking for things to get upset about. It's like when you get on Twitter in the morning and ask, "What are we all angry about today?"

One last point: I don't think this was a paid/corporate gig, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did a few such gigs all the way back in the 80s. I could see it being done for Island/Warner Brothers people ... or Polygram people after they bought Island ... etc. Difference being that social media didn't exist back then, so there was no opportunity for anyone to tell the world what was going on.
Yup. Exactly.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: trevgreg on April 04, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
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It feels to me like we've reached a point where fans are looking for things to get upset about. It's like when you get on Twitter in the morning and ask, "What are we all angry about today?"

Yep. Welcome to online message boards for bands. Or the Internet even, in general.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: MadRob360 on April 04, 2017, 12:25:08 PM
I really couldn't give a s#*t to be honest, Who cares what private gigs they do!? Seriously, this is the bad part of the internet, Stop moaning and look forward to the tour starting :D I'm just glad these guys are still making music and touring, and aren't quite ready to pack in leaving us with the chart crap that gets served up nowadays
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 04, 2017, 12:31:22 PM
well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: So Cruel on April 04, 2017, 02:11:55 PM
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well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.

To be fair, the ones accused of "complaining" (myself included) all prefaced it by writing "If the band were compensated". No one is complaining if like M2 said it was likely a free show for a friend. But please carry on, because as one of the "complainers" i obviously have no common sense.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 04, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
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well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.

To be fair, the ones accused of "complaining" (myself included) all prefaced it by writing "If the band were compensated". No one is complaining if like M2 said it was likely a free show for a friend. But please carry on, because as one of the "complainers" i obviously have no common sense.

it doesnt matter if they got paid.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Spacejunk69 on April 04, 2017, 05:20:06 PM
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well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.

To be fair, the ones accused of "complaining" (myself included) all prefaced it by writing "If the band were compensated". No one is complaining if like M2 said it was likely a free show for a friend. But please carry on, because as one of the "complainers" i obviously have no common sense.

it doesnt matter if they got paid.

No. It does not. If they did this for free, or for money, it is no concern of ours and nobody should be concerned or put out by it. Absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: So Cruel on April 04, 2017, 06:04:48 PM
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well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.

To be fair, the ones accused of "complaining" (myself included) all prefaced it by writing "If the band were compensated". No one is complaining if like M2 said it was likely a free show for a friend. But please carry on, because as one of the "complainers" i obviously have no common sense.

it doesnt matter if they got paid.

maybe not to you, but some have different opinions on the matter
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: MattD on April 04, 2017, 06:11:40 PM
Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 04, 2017, 06:22:18 PM
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well it seems the first few replies were the only ones mad. the rest are using common sense and realizing it's just complaining to complain.

To be fair, the ones accused of "complaining" (myself included) all prefaced it by writing "If the band were compensated". No one is complaining if like M2 said it was likely a free show for a friend. But please carry on, because as one of the "complainers" i obviously have no common sense.

it doesnt matter if they got paid.

maybe not to you, but some have different opinions on the matter

so help me understand. is this a bigger issue than the ipod, blackberry, or the itunes deal? i mean i'm not sure where the line is drawn. so many have said that each of those is the ultimate sell out move. are those that think this is a huge sell out move equating it to being in apples back pocket or whatever? i'm not trying to argue i'm just trying to see how it's different, or is it not different?
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: THRILLHO on April 04, 2017, 06:22:40 PM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: tigerfan41 on April 04, 2017, 06:45:34 PM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?

No, that was the one in California, if I recall correctly. The Vegas one was iHeartRadio.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: monopoly on April 04, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?

No, that was the one in California, if I recall correctly. The Vegas one was iHeartRadio.

I'm betting that show was the inspiration for a JT tour. The stage layout is pretty similar to the map.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: jenniferh aka jen on April 05, 2017, 12:17:30 AM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?

No, that was the one in California, if I recall correctly. The Vegas one was iHeartRadio.

At least the proceeds from the Salesforce gig went to charity....


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Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: tigerfan41 on April 05, 2017, 09:46:15 PM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?

No, that was the one in California, if I recall correctly. The Vegas one was iHeartRadio.

I'm betting that show was the inspiration for a JT tour. The stage layout is pretty similar to the map.

The one in Cali? If I remember correctly, they used parts of the Vertigo stadium stage for that.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: monopoly on April 06, 2017, 12:15:48 AM
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Pretty insignificant. Playing a gig for Salesforce was the real problem. Pathetic actually.

How very rock n roll.....

was that the Vegas show last summer?

No, that was the one in California, if I recall correctly. The Vegas one was iHeartRadio.

I'm betting that show was the inspiration for a JT tour. The stage layout is pretty similar to the map.

The one in Cali? If I remember correctly, they used parts of the Vertigo stadium stage for that.

Yeah it looks pretty similar to the map. And I'm sure they'll be using the same screen just much larger. The b stage looks pretty similar, all they would have to do is put a JT print on it. And of course the original tree prints on the main stage, surrounding the screen.

Then again, willie was testing lights and stuff so who knows? Maybe they'll have multiple screens hanging off tree branches
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: skelter on April 22, 2017, 01:13:20 PM
Was one of the private concerts for the omaze charity thing winner?
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: lucas.homem on April 22, 2017, 01:54:37 PM
I have no problem with private shows and I think people have a weird moral compass.
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: Kmama07 on April 23, 2017, 01:41:54 PM
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Was one of the private concerts for the omaze charity thing winner?
I've been wondering if any video would turn up from the private omaze concert winner. Or at least an article about it on the website
Title: Re: Private Concerts
Post by: skelter on April 23, 2017, 03:41:38 PM
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Was one of the private concerts for the omaze charity thing winner?
I've been wondering if any video would turn up from the private omaze concert winner. Or at least an article about it on the website

Well, you know how Bono is quite anti-cellphone recording (especially at a 2-person audience), or maybe the official rules prohibits video recording. I don't know about omaze, maybe they don't care about a write up (for any celeb meeting) once they've got your money.

Timing of this omaze thing, we can only guess:
1. During soundcheck before one of the JT30 shows? In a trendy city like NYC or something?
2. A few days before the JT30 shows as a sort of "test the waters"?