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Title: "Ordinary Love - Extraordinary Chorus" u2.com email
Post by: judgesmails on April 26, 2017, 06:48:43 AM
I've been pretty excited about the upcoming tour, but I'm not a fan of this idea.  I hope they scrap it.

(U2.com email 4/26/17)


"The chorus to Ordinary Love and one of the songs that might - MIGHT - turn up in the new show.

In fact, the word from Show Director Willie Williams is that there’s an idea to feature you all singing the chorus of Ordinary Love on The Joshua Tree Tour 2017.

Singing it in ordinary situations: walking the dog, on the treadmill, at the supermarket, doing the ironing, baking a cake, driving the car, in the shower…

It’s early days and the idea might not make the cut…. but you could make the difference.

Can you see yourself on screen at the show ? In the chorus, backing the band as they play Ordinary Love?

If you can, please get it our way by MAY 1ST."
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Post by: Johnny Feathers on April 26, 2017, 07:13:17 AM
There is literally nothing about this that is appealing.  The song, the "you perform it!" gimmick, the email.  Ugh.
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Post by: judgesmails on April 26, 2017, 07:19:04 AM
 ;D  I wish I had thought to say "there is literally nothing about this that is appealing".  You summed it up better than I ever could.
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Post by: DPardue on April 26, 2017, 07:33:49 AM
If emails are going out about this already, unfortunately it is probably too far along to be scrapped.

At least I will know in advance when during the show to make a quick restroom trip.

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Post by: Number1U2fan on April 26, 2017, 08:12:59 AM
They still insist on having YAWN moments in shows. The song got enough play during I&E no need to continue to play it here. Beer break time.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
No one wants to hear me sing and have it recorded
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Post by: So Cruel on April 26, 2017, 08:47:02 AM
Hold on. April Fools Day is at the beginning of the month, isn't it? Lamest idea I've ever heard.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 09:06:58 AM
I will gladly make a Ms Mac Phisto video and send it in.  Looking for a gold lame dress. lol but no singing.
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Post by: document on April 26, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
Didn't they do this with "Unknown Caller," during the 360 Tour?
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 09:16:45 AM
Anyone remember when bono said it was being considered for SOE
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 09:20:56 AM
I do not want to see fans on the screen.
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Post by: THRILLHO on April 26, 2017, 09:50:29 AM
yea this wasn't even a good idea when the were gonna do it with TTTYAATW on 360. i don't wanna see the fans either thats such a cringey moment for me.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 09:58:07 AM
I think it would be cool to send pictures in of what we looked like back in 1987
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Post by: THRILLHO on April 26, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
a 6 y/o me on that jumbo screen would be cringey too.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 10:17:42 AM
how do I attach a picture? I believe I have one with a JT button on lol
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Post by: Spacejunk69 on April 26, 2017, 10:21:51 AM
Yup. Terrible song, terrible idea. Don't U2 have enough (much better) songs and ideas to fill up a show than this.

Sad, very sad. Im scared for Vancouver and Seattle now.
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Post by: So Cruel on April 26, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
I really can't believe they are considering this. With this tour they have an open slate to revisit songs that they normally wouldn't. Wasting a number on a horrible song with fans singing just doesn't make sense.
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Post by: THRILLHO on April 26, 2017, 10:39:43 AM
i mean i'm sure they've got the "seldom played deep cuts" issue settled with tracks 5-11 of JT. the rest will be hits. this song isn't terrible but nothing they've done in the past decade is the anthem this idea would need to have to work.
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Post by: codeguy on April 26, 2017, 10:45:16 AM
This is actually embarrassing
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 11:00:26 AM
This is some marketing director's idea.  I'm sure they were consulted though.  I think it's a very underrated song.  Fans singing=bad idea
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 11:11:52 AM
I can see it now. The band on the tree stage. Looking at the screen. Just imagine the SFS VR video being played
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Post by: Spacejunk69 on April 26, 2017, 11:30:34 AM
It will suck the life and energy out of the show. If any has been generated that is. Cringe worthy.

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Post by: riffraff on April 26, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
I have to agree with most of these comments...it just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
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Post by: BalconyTV on April 26, 2017, 11:35:58 AM
I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 11:40:24 AM
I still say we all send in pics of us in 1987 don't have to put your name on it.  That would be funny to see on the screen
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 11:41:07 AM
Also I'm available for hire for even better ideas lol
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Post by: eddyjedi on April 26, 2017, 11:43:55 AM
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I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

If it's so easy to play then why did they almost ruin it at the Oscars? That performance is dreadful vocally.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 11:50:11 AM
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I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

If it's so easy to play then why did they almost ruin it at the Oscars? That performance is dreadful vocally.
the oscars have really bad sound people they have major issues every year
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Post by: aviastar on April 26, 2017, 12:01:51 PM
Oh great...this is one U2 song I never bothered to learn lyrics to. Now they expect me to do homework??


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Post by: eddyjedi on April 26, 2017, 12:03:18 PM
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I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

If it's so easy to play then why did they almost ruin it at the Oscars? That performance is dreadful vocally.
the oscars have really bad sound people they have major issues every year

It was Bono's ridiculous singing that butchered it. It was awful.
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Post by: bass slap on April 26, 2017, 12:24:20 PM
Judging by the comments (which I generally agree with) they seem pretty disconnected from their fans. Embarrassing.. down there with the 360 mask idea.

There must be an endless list of songs that would be better placed and pass fans more, including just about any b side or cover song.


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Post by: jordan on April 26, 2017, 12:44:46 PM
Wow... I must be the only one who likes this song.  However, I wouldn't want to see myself singing it, and you all definitely wouldn't want to see that either.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 12:45:19 PM
You'd be surprised what a good sound person does
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Post by: THRILLHO on April 26, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
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Wow... I must be the only one who likes this song.  However, I wouldn't want to see myself singing it, and you all definitely wouldn't want to see that either.

no, i like it too. i hope they play it. i just dont want the singing along part. at least mute the fans and just show them mouthing the words
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 01:31:01 PM
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Wow... I must be the only one who likes this song.  However, I wouldn't want to see myself singing it, and you all definitely wouldn't want to see that either.

no, i like it too. i hope they play it. i just dont want the singing along part. at least mute the fans and just show them mouthing the words
I'd lip sync in my car lol but no singing lol
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Post by: aviastar on April 26, 2017, 01:59:58 PM
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Wow... I must be the only one who likes this song.  However, I wouldn't want to see myself singing it, and you all definitely wouldn't want to see that either.

The song is fine, but I'd prefer to leave it to the professionals to sing it...the crowd singing 40 to close out a show is one thing, but a forced crowd chorus is just kinda lame IMO.
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Post by: riffraff on April 26, 2017, 02:34:39 PM
Yeah, the song is fine...so do it like it should be done, right?
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Post by: braxhunt on April 26, 2017, 03:12:37 PM
It's been typical of their history to try to prove that they have cool, young, sexy, hip-looking, fans. I think they'll use this opportunity to prove as much by selecting the right fan videos for the event. They'll probably also throw in a couple of "normals" just because, though.
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Post by: Hawkmoon2e on April 26, 2017, 03:56:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0
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Post by: boom boom on April 26, 2017, 05:21:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08i9kvCJvJ0
Pretty much exactly how I feel about this, really cringworthy.  U2 do you want to remind yourself this came "second at the Oscars".  Please don't do it.  If not, just a bathroom/beer break.
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Post by: JTNash on April 26, 2017, 05:27:14 PM
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It's been typical of their history to try to prove that they have cool, young, sexy, hip-looking, fans. I think they'll use this opportunity to prove as much by selecting the right fan videos for the event. They'll probably also throw in a couple of "normals" just because, though.
I'm cool but old and no longer sexy as are a lot of us but come on can't we still have a band? Why do only young kids get to have a band?
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Post by: The Exile on April 26, 2017, 05:50:50 PM
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If emails are going out about this already, unfortunately it is probably too far along to be scrapped.

"Too far along to be scrapped." Hilarious.
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Post by: trevgreg on April 26, 2017, 05:57:27 PM
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Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

But I thought Edge playing the guitar on something was supposed to be bad? You know, him being "safe" and all.  ::)

I think this type of argument would happen no matter what type of song was picked. I don't mind the song, but the idea is a weird one, unless they have something surprisingly decent in mind if it works out.
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
Has anyone listened to the backing track? Is it acoustic or full band album version? This should give a clue to how it's performed live
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Post by: trevgreg on April 26, 2017, 06:12:22 PM
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Sad, very sad. Im scared for Vancouver and Seattle now.

If the potential of some video idea is that bad for anyone, then I'm sure there's plenty of Prince or Bowie fans that would beg to differ about it.
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Post by: mofospacejunk on April 26, 2017, 06:14:45 PM
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I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

f is boring?

You're obviously doing it wrong.
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
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I'm reading U2 At The End of the World as we speak. When they were conceptualizing ZooTV some of their scrapped ideas were bonkers. The whole concept of the album was out there.

Ordinary Love is appealing to U2 now because its easy for them to perform.

When did the band become so safe?

Was like that acoustic bit in the I and E tour. It was pretty easy for them to do, but was totally boring. The band need to get off that level of thinking. No Bono dueting with Edge on Piano bits please.

I wonder do they actually research with fans as to whether fans liked those bits. Whenever that Piano came up I just though... no no no.

B-Stage has worked on occasion for U2 when its one song and its rocking. But these slow easy ballads are boring as f

f is boring?

You're obviously doing it wrong.

The letter q is more boring for me
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Post by: AchtungPop on April 26, 2017, 08:11:18 PM
I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

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Post by: trevgreg on April 26, 2017, 08:13:59 PM
Well, being played a total of 12 times on that tour isn't a whole lot though. Didn't exactly seem like a staple at some point. Yet.
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Post by: mrsamrocks2 on April 26, 2017, 08:27:03 PM
Well whether you guys like it or not, it's their biggest song of the last 10 years according to Spotify so it makes sense that they want to play it. However, the acoustic version they did on the IE tour was pretty bad. They need to play full band.
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Post by: monopoly on April 26, 2017, 08:31:32 PM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses
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Post by: So Cruel on April 26, 2017, 08:47:26 PM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree. 
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Post by: THRILLHO on April 26, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree.

yea. forget spotify plays. sure they listened to it. but know it? know it well enough to sing along? hey look. this was a NEW single. and one i like. so i give them points for doing this with a new song and not with say something obvious and nostalgic, like Pride. it's cringeworthy, but its cringe with something new. if that makes any sense.
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree.

yea. forget spotify plays. sure they listened to it. but know it? know it well enough to sing along? hey look. this was a NEW single. and one i like. so i give them points for doing this with a new song and not with say something obvious and nostalgic, like Pride. it's cringeworthy, but its cringe with something new. if that makes any sense.

It's not a matter of knowing It beforehand but that the audience can catch on very quickly and sing along- something many of the newer songs can't do. I don't want to hear it on this particular tour but I do admit it has one of the most recent crowd appealing lyrics. The reaction it saw 2 years ago is proof of that. Listen to Paris and notice how everyone can sing to it.

The whole "free yourself to be yourself" didn't work too well when bono tried to get people to sing it
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Post by: mcpaulson22 on April 26, 2017, 09:10:36 PM
Has the sky fallen? Sure it may not be the brightest idea, but no need to light the pitchforks. We are going to be hearing Red Hill Mining Town, Exit, One Tree Hill, and the Joshua Tree album in sequence. So much to be grateful for.
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Post by: lucas.homem on April 26, 2017, 09:12:15 PM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree.

I'm not a fan of Ordinary Love, but how can we measure what the hardcore fans like?
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Post by: trevgreg on April 26, 2017, 09:13:47 PM
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I'm not a fan of Ordinary Love, but how can we measure what the hardcore fans like?

See two or three comments that agree with yours, and declare that it's the main opinion.  ;)
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Post by: So Cruel on April 27, 2017, 12:45:06 AM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree.

I'm not a fan of Ordinary Love, but how can we measure what the hardcore fans like?

Been a lot of song polls on this forum. Never seen Ordinary Love rank very high. At the time it was released it got a very mixed reaction on here. There were a lot of posters who didn't think very highly of it.
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Post by: Rono on April 27, 2017, 05:03:00 AM
Im probably in the minority in liking the song but there is many songs that arnt played regularly which I would like to see in the show first.   A full band version of they do it!

The extraordinary chorus idea sounds cringe worthy and a bad idea but could work of done right.  The band and Willie Williams are the masters at putting on a show,!
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Post by: JTNash on April 27, 2017, 08:14:52 AM
And you know they will dump it, if it flops they are good like that
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Post by: Kurukira on April 29, 2017, 01:15:26 PM
Yeah, not feeling this - they're clearly using the anniversary of one of their biggest albums to draw in the casuals but if we're honest, "Ordinary Love" isn't exactly a song the casuals know the words to.  I smell a mass pi*s break for this one.  But, as Willie said - "It’s early days and the idea might not make the cut…."
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Post by: U2Fan on April 30, 2017, 05:42:56 AM
I hope this doesn't make the cut.  Not at all interested in hearing this on the Joshua Tree tour.
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Post by: riffraff on April 30, 2017, 05:58:16 AM
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I hope this doesn't make the cut.  Not at all interested in hearing this on the Joshua Tree tour.
No, it really doesn't fit, does it?
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Post by: tigerfan41 on April 30, 2017, 11:22:13 AM
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I'm still surprised it was in rotation on the I&E Tour while Miracle Drug got shelved. And got played more than NYD, The Troubles & Two Hearts.

I don't think its bad, just so many better songs that they've done.

It has one of their better sing along choruses

It's a song many of their hardcore fans don't really like. The casuals who are their to see the Joshua Tree won't know the chorus, or the song for that matter, at all. If they really wanted to do a sing-a-long Sweetest Thing would make more sense. A simple pop song people know, that was written for the Joshua Tree.

I'm not a fan of Ordinary Love, but how can we measure what the hardcore fans like?

Been a lot of song polls on this forum. Never seen Ordinary Love rank very high. At the time it was released it got a very mixed reaction on here. There were a lot of posters who didn't think very highly of it.

I agree. I guess I would be considered a "hardcore" fan. It's not that OL is a bad song, it's just not as good as dozens of other songs that U2 has released. U2 has a very deep discography, they'd literally have to play a concert of 80+ songs to play every song the hardcores and casuals want to hear live.  They're playing with a very limited setlist since TJT will be eating up 11 of the songs, so why effectively "waste" one of those precious few songs on OL when you could instead play a b-side like Desire, ST, Luminous Times or a deeper cut like Acrobat off AB?

I don't get the logic in playing OL and, say, dropping Elevation from the setlist. Both are technically movie soundtrack songs, but one song gets the crowd moving much in the way that Vertigo does, while the other is just sort of meh while compared to U2's other songs.
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Post by: trevgreg on April 30, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
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Been a lot of song polls on this forum. Never seen Ordinary Love rank very high. At the time it was released it got a very mixed reaction on here. There were a lot of posters who didn't think very highly of it.

I can't recall any polls taking place on here. But both @U2 and Interference have maybe 100-200 people that visit each day regularly, with maybe a handful of them posting consistently. Overall, I'm not really sure if any consensus can be built just by people who happen to be on a forum at any given time. Strong opinions? Sure, but I probably wouldn't call it a consensus among fans at all.

If we're giving weight to everyone on here that has a strong opinion hating it, then shouldn't we also consider all the people in the YouTube comments section that like the song too?

This song is so beautiful
These guys at their best are incomparable
i love  this  song
blows away anything on their new album
the best fantastic the song
Mmmmm, love this
I loved this song when I was younger
One if not my favorite U2 song, which will not get old in my book
i love this song
amazing
Am i the only one who thinks this song is just epic and beautiful and should deserve much, much more views and credit?
Why do radio stations never play this, they should stop playing those lady gaga songs.
This song really takes you in - the melodies leak into your soul and there they stay
I love this song, I wish Nelson Mandela was still here with us, he is though but in Heaven, this song makes me cry
This is what it means to be a sublime lyricist. Good track too.
i feel something inside my body when listened this music.!
Awesoma track. I waiting for more as good such this
im french and i love this song
I L O V E THIS SONG!!!


In other words, some people don't like the song, but there's also some that like it a lot too. And either way is fine. I'd probably say a good chunk of songs by any band are going to be the exact same thing. But to say that a song is widely disliked just because five or ten people on a forum say it's horrible doesn't make too much sense either, imo.

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I agree. I guess I would be considered a "hardcore" fan. It's not that OL is a bad song, it's just not as good as dozens of other songs that U2 has released. U2 has a very deep discography, they'd literally have to play a concert of 80+ songs to play every song the hardcores and casuals want to hear live.  They're playing with a very limited setlist since TJT will be eating up 11 of the songs, so why effectively "waste" one of those precious few songs on OL when you could instead play a b-side like Desire, ST, Luminous Times or a deeper cut like Acrobat off AB?

The "dozens of other songs" argument comes up when a song is singled out, but I'm not sure it really answers much either. If they picked another song, the debate would just shift over to whatever other song it is.

Examples:
Desire - "They've already played this a lot!" "They're unadventurous if they're pulling this one up again!"
Sweetest Thing - "They already played it on the last tour." "This was the beginning of 00's U2." "I hate Bono playing the piano."
Luminous Times - "There's better b-sides they could be playing." "The audience doesn't know it/will fall asleep." "Why aren't they playing Acrobat instead?" "No one except the hard cores will know this song!"
God Part II - "Can Bono even hit the high notes anymore?" "I thought he told a fan he couldn't hit the high notes anymore?" "I can't picture the band doing it justice anymore." "Why aren't they playing Silver and Gold instead?"
Do You Feel Loved - "They couldn't play it live last time, so why are they trying it again?" "It stunk live."

And if they alternate a few songs live again, then there's a chance we won't hear whatever anyway and just stick to watching two minutes of whatever song on YouTube before getting bored with it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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Post by: monopoly on April 30, 2017, 06:21:04 PM
It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work
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Post by: tigerfan41 on April 30, 2017, 11:08:27 PM
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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)

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The "dozens of other songs" argument comes up when a song is singled out, but I'm not sure it really answers much either. If they picked another song, the debate would just shift over to whatever other song it is.

Examples:
Desire - "They've already played this a lot!" "They're unadventurous if they're pulling this one up again!"
Sweetest Thing - "They already played it on the last tour." "This was the beginning of 00's U2." "I hate Bono playing the piano."
Luminous Times - "There's better b-sides they could be playing." "The audience doesn't know it/will fall asleep." "Why aren't they playing Acrobat instead?" "No one except the hard cores will know this song!"
God Part II - "Can Bono even hit the high notes anymore?" "I thought he told a fan he couldn't hit the high notes anymore?" "I can't picture the band doing it justice anymore." "Why aren't they playing Silver and Gold instead?"
Do You Feel Loved - "They couldn't play it live last time, so why are they trying it again?" "It stunk live."

And if they alternate a few songs live again, then there's a chance we won't hear whatever anyway and just stick to watching two minutes of whatever song on YouTube before getting bored with it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I get what you're saying, but I think this particular thing is an exception. Here we have U2 playing the entirety of one of their best albums. Playing a tune like Desire, Sweetest Thing, or Luminous would NOT be out of place in the context of this tour. However, playing OL WOULD be out of place in the context of this tour. Would people complain about Desire, ST, Luminous? Of course, but I don't think they would complain as much as OL which has not business being on this limited setlist. Save it for the continuation of the I&E tour.
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Post by: riffraff on May 01, 2017, 05:21:38 AM
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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)

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The "dozens of other songs" argument comes up when a song is singled out, but I'm not sure it really answers much either. If they picked another song, the debate would just shift over to whatever other song it is.

Examples:
Desire - "They've already played this a lot!" "They're unadventurous if they're pulling this one up again!"
Sweetest Thing - "They already played it on the last tour." "This was the beginning of 00's U2." "I hate Bono playing the piano."
Luminous Times - "There's better b-sides they could be playing." "The audience doesn't know it/will fall asleep." "Why aren't they playing Acrobat instead?" "No one except the hard cores will know this song!"
God Part II - "Can Bono even hit the high notes anymore?" "I thought he told a fan he couldn't hit the high notes anymore?" "I can't picture the band doing it justice anymore." "Why aren't they playing Silver and Gold instead?"
Do You Feel Loved - "They couldn't play it live last time, so why are they trying it again?" "It stunk live."

And if they alternate a few songs live again, then there's a chance we won't hear whatever anyway and just stick to watching two minutes of whatever song on YouTube before getting bored with it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I get what you're saying, but I think this particular thing is an exception. Here we have U2 playing the entirety of one of their best albums. Playing a tune like Desire, Sweetest Thing, or Luminous would NOT be out of place in the context of this tour. However, playing OL WOULD be out of place in the context of this tour. Would people complain about Desire, ST, Luminous? Of course, but I don't think they would complain as much as OL which has not business being on this limited setlist. Save it for the continuation of the I&E tour.
Who would complain about Luminous Times being played? Why? WHAT?
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Post by: Rasmus on May 01, 2017, 07:56:56 AM
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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)


I hate SFS and The Best Thing but I love California... In fact its top 3 on SOI for me. Just shows that there is no truth to taste!
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Post by: blovesu2 on May 01, 2017, 08:03:41 AM
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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)


I hate SFS and The Best Thing but I love California... In fact its top 3 on SOI for me. Just shows that there is no truth to taste!

Me too. I love California. One of my fave U2 tracks from the last few albums. To each their own!

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Post by: tigerfan41 on May 01, 2017, 10:46:21 AM
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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)


I hate SFS and The Best Thing but I love California... In fact its top 3 on SOI for me. Just shows that there is no truth to taste!

Me too. I love California. One of my fave U2 tracks from the last few albums. To each their own!

I will say, listening to California on vinyl made me like it a little more. There's sounds that come out on the vinyl version that you can't clearly hear on the digital/CD versions of the song. I don't care for the intro, but I do enjoy the rest of the song.

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It's the same group who like the best thing, SFS, and California. Some people really like the new pop u2. Then you have older fans like us who know what u2 are capable of and don't consider these their great work

Umm, not necessarily. I love U2's older work and their output from the 80s-90s is tops for me...but I have a soft spot for SFS and The Best Thing (without the EDM sound, it has potential). Great songs? Definitely not. But not as bad as a lot of people make'em out to be. I'm not even going to defend California.  ;)

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The "dozens of other songs" argument comes up when a song is singled out, but I'm not sure it really answers much either. If they picked another song, the debate would just shift over to whatever other song it is.

Examples:
Desire - "They've already played this a lot!" "They're unadventurous if they're pulling this one up again!"
Sweetest Thing - "They already played it on the last tour." "This was the beginning of 00's U2." "I hate Bono playing the piano."
Luminous Times - "There's better b-sides they could be playing." "The audience doesn't know it/will fall asleep." "Why aren't they playing Acrobat instead?" "No one except the hard cores will know this song!"
God Part II - "Can Bono even hit the high notes anymore?" "I thought he told a fan he couldn't hit the high notes anymore?" "I can't picture the band doing it justice anymore." "Why aren't they playing Silver and Gold instead?"
Do You Feel Loved - "They couldn't play it live last time, so why are they trying it again?" "It stunk live."

And if they alternate a few songs live again, then there's a chance we won't hear whatever anyway and just stick to watching two minutes of whatever song on YouTube before getting bored with it. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I get what you're saying, but I think this particular thing is an exception. Here we have U2 playing the entirety of one of their best albums. Playing a tune like Desire, Sweetest Thing, or Luminous would NOT be out of place in the context of this tour. However, playing OL WOULD be out of place in the context of this tour. Would people complain about Desire, ST, Luminous? Of course, but I don't think they would complain as much as OL which has not business being on this limited setlist. Save it for the continuation of the I&E tour.
Who would complain about Luminous Times being played? Why? WHAT?

I wouldn't! In fact, I'd gladly welcome just about any of the B-sides.