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Title: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 19, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
The Edge's recent Rolling Stone interview mentioned a mortality crisis, what would that be? I think it might be the biking thing, but I'm not really sure.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: missey on September 19, 2017, 03:00:27 PM
My guess was the Nice bombing.  He was in a restaurant nearby when it happened.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Rasmus on September 19, 2017, 03:06:16 PM
It's not the biking thing. The article specifically mention that it was worse than that - quote: "those setbacks didn't compare to another crisis Bono faced last year"
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: ShankAsu on September 19, 2017, 04:02:23 PM
Sounds like its something that the general public isn't aware of, but if Edge is discussing it, sure it will come to light eventually.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 19, 2017, 05:44:09 PM
I agree that I don't think it's come to light yet.  Bono will probably bring it up soon.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: miryclay on September 19, 2017, 06:18:29 PM
It's a vague trick to stimulate our imaginations. I bet you its Nice.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: JTNash on September 19, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
It was the terror attacked in Nice France
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Catlithco on September 20, 2017, 12:01:39 AM
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It was the terror attacked in Nice France

I hope that its the Nice attack, because it means that it's not a health issue. But I doubt it a bit. Why would the others say that they don't go into detail and won't talk about it when Bono already talked about it last year? So it's nothing that isn't know yet.

And would it really cause such a feeling of a "brush with mortality" when you're caught in a restaurant nearby? Is this worse than the bike accident where he almost killed himself? ("those setbacks didn't compare to another crisis Bono faced last year")

We had a guy here in Munich in July 2016 who run amok at a shopping mall. He shot several people in the shopping mall and then outside the shopping mall in front of a McDonalds. Everyone thought its a terroristic attack first. I remember that the hubby of a friend was in the shopping mall at that time, and all the people in the shopping mall were caught in the shopping mall for security reasons until late in the evening. The people couldn't leave before the police found out that it's not a terroristic attack but an amok run by a single young guy, and after the police found the guy dead, as he shot himself.
So the situation is quite similar. I can't remember that my friends' husband told something that he felt agony.

Hmm maybe Bono will talk about it once.


Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: 73October on September 20, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
Not sure if Bono has talked about the Nice attack.  Lots of accounts that he was just along the road in the lockdown zone were from other people who were there.  All the online reports from newspaper websites say along the lines of 'Bono was not available for comment'  He's not said anything.
On a personal level - probably the incident that comes to mind when I think of a 'brush with mortality' is 29 years ago when I could have quite easily fallen down Mt Snowdon on the decent. The path was rocky and quite undefined.  At one point, I found myself looking down at a scree slope and a few hundred foot drop.  Fortunately someone was with me and shouted an alternative footing across to me and I was safe.  It lasted just a few moments and is not something I talk about much really.
"Tell us about a difficult moment"
"Well I nearly fell off Snowdon but a friend helped me out and now I'm fine"
"When did that happen?"
"Oh about 30 years ago"
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Luzita on September 22, 2017, 06:33:29 AM
Bono talked about the Nice attack in some detail on Charlie Rose. And from what I've read about the airplane door incident they heard a thud but didn't know how serious it was until after they landed. So I don't think it's that either. But I don't think Bono has spoken about the airplane incident himself so maybe there's more to it.


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Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: 73October on September 22, 2017, 10:43:01 AM
He specifically mentioned The Blackout in the email interview with RS.  Now wondering if someone has really tried to take a pop at him - there are so many haters out there  :(
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: mariamontreal on September 24, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
I  think its a combination of everything he has dealt with and overcome. Accidents, health issues, dangerous situations.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 24, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
Let's continue to "lift him up" always!
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Clarky on September 24, 2017, 07:23:52 PM
It was the Beautiful Day video shoot where the plane nearly took out him and the band on the runway. He's been having flashbacks about how dangerous that was.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: miryclay on September 24, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
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It was the Beautiful Day video shoot where the plane nearly took out him and the band on the runway. He's been having flashbacks about how dangerous that was.

Your such a fool. Didn't you see when he fell out of the car in the SIAM video. It has to be real it's on YouTube. Sheesh.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: miryclay on September 24, 2017, 08:08:45 PM
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It was the Beautiful Day video shoot where the plane nearly took out him and the band on the runway. He's been having flashbacks about how dangerous that was.

Bono tried to stop the plane with his music.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: tigerfan41 on September 24, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
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It was the Beautiful Day video shoot where the plane nearly took out him and the band on the runway. He's been having flashbacks about how dangerous that was.

Your such a fool. Didn't you see when he fell out of the car in the SIAM video. It has to be real it's on YouTube. Sheesh.

....and then gets repeatedly hit.

Or that time he got hit by the van driven by his bandmates on Fallon.

It's gotta be one of those for sure.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: 73October on September 25, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
Ah! None of us know what the situation(s) are/were.  And unfortunately Edge has inadvertently started a load of speculation.

I just wanted to share something:
The really strange thing about all this for me is that there's this guy I know (this is a real story & not fake for sympathy) who is a well-known (and well-loved) businessman and philanthropist (and from the general area where I live).  In fact, although I've never met Bono but from what I've heard, I reckon this guy I know is probably quite like Bono in general (factor in a shared strong Christian faith too).  My businessman friend is one of these guys everyone wants to talk to at an event, and he knows how to work a room (just like Bono).
He's only a couple of years younger than the band.
Anyway, I'd not seen or heard from him for a while and I assumed he'd taken an extended holiday (age must be catching up) but was slightly alarmed nonetheless.  I just found out this weekend that he has had a pretty major health scare and is at home recovering from surgery.  I know what condition was that he had and respect that he doesn't want things to be made openly public (I heard word of mouth) maybe because he is well-known and loved by many, even in further places.  Fortunately medics dealt with the condition early and he'll make an excellent recovery.  But I guess he will need to look at work priorities and other things soon.

It could be that Bono had a health scare and it was dealt with quickly and successfully, or it could be an incident that he was close to and chooses not to discuss for security reasons.  Whatever the reason, I am thankful that Bono is well.  And also my friend, who I know would leave a hole in many people's lives - even if he is by no means the most well known businessman in the 21st Century.

Maybe we will find out what it was with Bono, or maybe we'll not really know for many years to come.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Catlithco on September 25, 2017, 02:14:39 PM
Whatever happend to Bono that caused him such a "serious moment", just accept when they say "the band won't go into detail on the matter". I'm sure they have reason to react like this.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 25, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
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It was the Beautiful Day video shoot where the plane nearly took out him and the band on the runway. He's been having flashbacks about how dangerous that was.

Bono tried to stop the plane with his music.
Preferably Elevation.  ;D
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: WhenIsSOE on September 25, 2017, 05:26:53 PM
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Whatever happend to Bono that caused him such a "serious moment", just accept when they say "the band won't go into detail on the matter". I'm sure they have reason to react like this.
Well why would they even mention it and then say "but we won't talk about that"?!?
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 25, 2017, 06:27:42 PM
I wish they wouldn't have brought it up.  Now I'm worried about him :(
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: miryclay on September 25, 2017, 06:51:56 PM
At the pace that he operates at this was bound to happen.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Clarky on September 25, 2017, 09:20:06 PM
^yes, we're lucky he's still alive and doing shows as it is, let alone expecting him to not have dealt with any serious health issues after 35 years of being a rockstar frontman. It was kind of inevitable.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: 73October on September 26, 2017, 01:54:08 PM
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At the pace that he operates at this was bound to happen.

Yes and the pace of his drinking (if Noel is anything to go by) could be a cause for concern?
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: shineinthesummernight on September 26, 2017, 02:58:19 PM
Bono definitely looks every bit his age.  I am coming at this from a place of concern and am not adding fuel to rumors.  I just hope he's okay.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Catlithco on September 27, 2017, 03:19:32 AM
He looks good, he was on tour, and he will be going again next year, so he really seems to be fine.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: tj1968 on December 03, 2017, 04:26:43 AM
This has now been highlighted in the sleeve notes to Songs of Experience. Bono mentions an arresting experience, facing a wall with his hands over his head. Is he being literal or metaphorical?
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Silver Lining on December 03, 2017, 06:07:24 AM
I'm pretty sure metaphorical.

If he had literally been arrested, I'm sure the media would have had a field day!

The way he writes about it does make it seem to me like a medical issue of some kind, presumably one that could have been serious if not spotted and treated early. But I'm pretty sure that the guys all receive the best health care and screening money can buy, and the fact he was back on tour etc pretty quickly points to it being successfully dealt with.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Argo on December 03, 2017, 08:03:51 AM
I am guessing he had a health scare of some sort eg mild heart attack, needed a stent put in, low grade tumour type issue. Seems more directly personal than Nice and something more recent than the bike accident. Expect it will come out in due course, probably in the lead up to the tour or whilst on tour.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: benpoke on December 04, 2017, 12:12:38 AM
Sounds like a cardiac arrest that he managed to recover from to me.  He's the ripe age for it and he likes his clues - "I was arrested".
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: kerrica on January 15, 2018, 09:07:22 AM
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Sounds like a cardiac arrest that he managed to recover from to me.  He's the ripe age for it and he likes his clues - "I was arrested".

Good one. I never considered that.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: achtungbhoy on January 23, 2018, 07:27:53 AM
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I am guessing he had a health scare of some sort eg mild heart attack, needed a stent put in, low grade tumour type issue. Seems more directly personal than Nice and something more recent than the bike accident. Expect it will come out in due course, probably in the lead up to the tour or whilst on tour.

I would guess that too. I wondered if the group photo in the CD sleeve of the new album was a clue in that he's holding his left arm. That's often where pain strikes with a heart attack. Might be wide of the mark but it did occur to me...
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: 73October on January 23, 2018, 11:44:29 AM
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I am guessing he had a health scare of some sort eg mild heart attack, needed a stent put in, low grade tumour type issue. Seems more directly personal than Nice and something more recent than the bike accident. Expect it will come out in due course, probably in the lead up to the tour or whilst on tour.

I would guess that too. I wondered if the group photo in the CD sleeve of the new album was a clue in that he's holding his left arm. That's often where pain strikes with a heart attack. Might be wide of the mark but it did occur to me...
But he also broke that arm in the bike crash.
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: jonnydeaf on January 23, 2018, 01:58:32 PM
The liner notes mention there was an incident without going into detail.
Here's a link to a youtube video where Bono is reading the liner notes.
The part about the "shock to the system" begins at 2:50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDjy9uJUawU
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: summerholly on January 23, 2018, 03:52:08 PM
I still think that a heart attack and especially and arrest would be hard to keep under wraps in a hospital, also having a friend last year have a mild heart attack it has taken him quite a time to recover and he certainly wouldn't have been capable of prancing around on stage or drinking hard after that and he is younger than Bono and not unfit
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: vanvooh on May 22, 2018, 11:52:04 AM
Not necesarily true.. I had a heart attack as well and after having a stent put in, I felt much better.  Plus cardio activity is what they prescribe for you so him dancing around would be a good thing and what his doctors would want to see. The drinking can also be done just in moderation.  I dont think that Bono hits it too hard anyway
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: Saint22 on May 22, 2018, 12:59:35 PM
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I still think that a heart attack and especially and arrest would be hard to keep under wraps in a hospital, also having a friend last year have a mild heart attack it has taken him quite a time to recover and he certainly wouldn't have been capable of prancing around on stage or drinking hard after that and he is younger than Bono and not unfit

He was in the hospital for something; we just don't know what, so whatever it was, it is under wraps. Why would a heart attack be any different than cancer or anything else?
Title: Re: What was Bono's "mortality crisis"?
Post by: shineinthesummernight on May 23, 2018, 02:50:23 PM
Apparently they added imagery of brain tissue (Bono's?) to the opening song in which you hear the MRI beeps.