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Title: Your E + I setlist
Post by: ToRontoRon on December 08, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
I've been trying to think of a potential setlist for the tour, and I find it very difficult.  I can see 12 of the 13 songs from SOE being played live.  The problem is, they aren't going to have 12 songs from one album in one show.  Even Achtung Baby didn't get that during ZOOTV.  I was able to whittle it down to 10, and even that seems a bit much, but I don't know how to get any less than that.

So, what are your predictions for the show?

Here's my stab at it.

1.  The Blackout - They open up on the e stage.  This HAS to be the opener.  They can turn the lights in the arena out during the "when the lights go out" part, a la Elevation as it opened the Elevation tour.  People loved it then, and they'd love it now.  What a great, high energy way to open the show.
2.  Lights Of Home - Logistically, they could have Bono leading the crowd in the "free yourself to be yourself..." part as the other three members walk back to the main stage.
3.  The Miracle (Of Joey Ramone) - They could then do the same thing they did during I + E, with Bono making his way from the e stage to the I during the "oh, oh, oh, oh's"
4.  One of Red Flag Day or Landlady - Maybe 2/3rds of the time or so play Red Flag Day.
5.  You're The Best Thing About Me - I think this is a good spot for this one.  This could also start the more choreographed, screen section of the show.   
6.  Every Breaking Wave - After some high energy songs, you take it down a notch with a full band version of this tune, which a lot of fans, myself included, would want to hear.  It would also mean you start the show with 6 straight songs from the last two albums.  This would show confidence in your new material, a la Achtung Baby during ZOOTV.
7.  I Will Follow - After all the newer stuff, track 1 of album 1 for all the older fans who might not like the newer stuff as much.
8.  New Year's Day - Another classic for the older fans.
9.  Cedarwood Road - A newer song, but one that connects to the past after the last two golden oldies.
10.  City Of Blindling Lights - I think you can do something great with the screen here leading into a brief break.  Sort of taking the place of Until The End Of The World's spot from the I + E tour.  I love Until The End Of The World, but maybe just give the song a break for this tour.

Brief intermission

11.  Gone - Sure, it seems unlikely we'll get anything from Pop, but who ever would have thought Zooropa would show up during I + E, or Scarlet during 360?  They usually do something that will surprise you, and this would be it.  Basically taking the place of Even Better Than The Real Thing from I + E.  The colours would match perfectly, too.
12.  Summer Of Love or The Showman (Little More Better) - Now on the e stage, this would take the place of Mysterious Ways, complete with bringing a girl on stage to dance.  This could be a lot of fun.  Most nights play Summer Of Love, but mix in The Showman every fourth show or so, just so it gets played at least a bit.
13.  Angel Of Harlem or Elevation - Continuing the fun, dancey part of the show.  About a 50/50 split between the two.
14.  Get Out Of Your Own Way - An acoustic version to give Adam and Larry a chance to get back to the I stage.  During the Kendrick Lamar part that bridges this song and the next one, Bono can use the bullhorn.
15.  American Soul - This can take the place of Bullet The Blue Sky for this tour.
16.  Pride (In The Name Of Love) - The big, anthemic part of the show begins.
17.  Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way - Bono can lead the crowd with the "oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh's" at the end of the song as Streets starts up.  This would give the same effect as 40 leading into Streets during the Elevation tour, which was just epic.
18.  Where The Streets Have No Name - I've heard some people say that they won't play any Joshua Tree during this tour because of the Joshua Tree 2017 tour...  This is getting played, people.  It would be a massive mistake not to.  It's the crowning jewel of every show, and every fan, casual or die hard, is expecting it.  The casual fans especially will be very disappointed if it isn't played.  Besides, I thought I heard a quote saying that they'd never play another show again without playing this, and that's how it should be.
19.  With Or Without You - The main set closes out with a quick back to back nod to The Joshua Tree.  They might dial back the songs a bit, but having 2 in the set seems like a minimum to me.

Another brief intermission before the encore

20.  The Little Things That Give You Away - The encore starts quietly, but builds up.
21.  Beautiful Day - The energy stays up with this one.
22.  Vertigo - The Beautiful Day/Elevation/Vertigo high energy part of the Joshua Tree 2017 tour was so good.  For this one, one third of it is out, but it's sort of replaced by the last half of Little Things for basically 3 high energy songs in a row again.
23.  One - A great closing song for a show, but in this case it will have to be the penultimate one.
24.  13 (There Is A Light) - Given the connection of Songs Of Innocence and Songs Of Experience with this song, namely the Song For Someone connection, I think it's fitting to have a similar connection between the I + E and E + I tours by closing with this one.  It would just sort of bring both of those tours around full circle.


How would you guys set up the show?

   



 
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: ToRontoRon on December 08, 2017, 07:59:35 PM
Hmm, I just realized I only have 1 Achtung Baby song in the set.  That won't do.  Maybe replace Angel Of Harlem/Elevation with Even Better Than The Real Thing, or have that song or The Fly close out the 1st set and City Of Blinding Lights open the 2nd set with a 25 song set...  I dunno.  This is hard.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Sonofabono on December 08, 2017, 08:31:20 PM
It's hard. I'm still thinking through it. Really excited about the possibility of less JT songs, but don't know which ones go and which ones stay.

Also, as great as the IE tour/setlist was (I'm a newer U2 fan so that was my first live show and I've never seen a band use the setlist to tell a story like that; the sequence from IWF to UTTEOTW was beautiful), I think I'd be disappointed if they kept the same structure/idea and just replaced the songs.

Still chewing on all this so I don't really have a setlist to offer. One thing I think would be really cool: the string version of Lights of Home sounds a whole lot like RBW. I loved the way RBW really set the stage for the "experience" set of the IE show, and I think RBW straight into Lights of Home could be a really cool way to do that.

Sorry this isn't really a setlist. Maybe I'll come up with one in the next few days.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: achtung child on December 08, 2017, 11:46:15 PM
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I've been trying to think of a potential setlist for the tour, and I find it very difficult.  I can see 12 of the 13 songs from SOE being played live.  The problem is, they aren't going to have 12 songs from one album in one show.  Even Achtung Baby didn't get that during ZOOTV.  I was able to whittle it down to 10, and even that seems a bit much, but I don't know how to get any less than that.

So, what are your predictions for the show?

Here's my stab at it.

1.  The Blackout - They open up on the e stage.  This HAS to be the opener.  They can turn the lights in the arena out during the "when the lights go out" part, a la Elevation as it opened the Elevation tour.  People loved it then, and they'd love it now.  What a great, high energy way to open the show.
2.  Lights Of Home - Logistically, they could have Bono leading the crowd in the "free yourself to be yourself..." part as the other three members walk back to the main stage.
3.  The Miracle (Of Joey Ramone) - They could then do the same thing they did during I + E, with Bono making his way from the e stage to the I during the "oh, oh, oh, oh's"
4.  One of Red Flag Day or Landlady - Maybe 2/3rds of the time or so play Red Flag Day.
5.  You're The Best Thing About Me - I think this is a good spot for this one.  This could also start the more choreographed, screen section of the show.   
6.  Every Breaking Wave - After some high energy songs, you take it down a notch with a full band version of this tune, which a lot of fans, myself included, would want to hear.  It would also mean you start the show with 6 straight songs from the last two albums.  This would show confidence in your new material, a la Achtung Baby during ZOOTV.
7.  I Will Follow - After all the newer stuff, track 1 of album 1 for all the older fans who might not like the newer stuff as much.
8.  New Year's Day - Another classic for the older fans.
9.  Cedarwood Road - A newer song, but one that connects to the past after the last two golden oldies.
10.  City Of Blindling Lights - I think you can do something great with the screen here leading into a brief break.  Sort of taking the place of Until The End Of The World's spot from the I + E tour.  I love Until The End Of The World, but maybe just give the song a break for this tour.

Brief intermission

11.  Gone - Sure, it seems unlikely we'll get anything from Pop, but who ever would have thought Zooropa would show up during I + E, or Scarlet during 360?  They usually do something that will surprise you, and this would be it.  Basically taking the place of Even Better Than The Real Thing from I + E.  The colours would match perfectly, too.
12.  Summer Of Love or The Showman (Little More Better) - Now on the e stage, this would take the place of Mysterious Ways, complete with bringing a girl on stage to dance.  This could be a lot of fun.  Most nights play Summer Of Love, but mix in The Showman every fourth show or so, just so it gets played at least a bit.
13.  Angel Of Harlem or Elevation - Continuing the fun, dancey part of the show.  About a 50/50 split between the two.
14.  Get Out Of Your Own Way - An acoustic version to give Adam and Larry a chance to get back to the I stage.  During the Kendrick Lamar part that bridges this song and the next one, Bono can use the bullhorn.
15.  American Soul - This can take the place of Bullet The Blue Sky for this tour.
16.  Pride (In The Name Of Love) - The big, anthemic part of the show begins.
17.  Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way - Bono can lead the crowd with the "oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh's" at the end of the song as Streets starts up.  This would give the same effect as 40 leading into Streets during the Elevation tour, which was just epic.
18.  Where The Streets Have No Name - I've heard some people say that they won't play any Joshua Tree during this tour because of the Joshua Tree 2017 tour...  This is getting played, people.  It would be a massive mistake not to.  It's the crowning jewel of every show, and every fan, casual or die hard, is expecting it.  The casual fans especially will be very disappointed if it isn't played.  Besides, I thought I heard a quote saying that they'd never play another show again without playing this, and that's how it should be.
19.  With Or Without You - The main set closes out with a quick back to back nod to The Joshua Tree.  They might dial back the songs a bit, but having 2 in the set seems like a minimum to me.

Another brief intermission before the encore

20.  The Little Things That Give You Away - The encore starts quietly, but builds up.
21.  Beautiful Day - The energy stays up with this one.
22.  Vertigo - The Beautiful Day/Elevation/Vertigo high energy part of the Joshua Tree 2017 tour was so good.  For this one, one third of it is out, but it's sort of replaced by the last half of Little Things for basically 3 high energy songs in a row again.
23.  One - A great closing song for a show, but in this case it will have to be the penultimate one.
24.  13 (There Is A Light) - Given the connection of Songs Of Innocence and Songs Of Experience with this song, namely the Song For Someone connection, I think it's fitting to have a similar connection between the I + E and E + I tours by closing with this one.  It would just sort of bring both of those tours around full circle.


How would you guys set up the show?

   



 

I think you're onto something here.  I posted a somewhat similar list elsewhere, though yours is more fleshed out.  I think it's very possible they'll make use of the light bulb again.  It would be perfect to have it turned back on at the end of 13.  I don't see Joey Ramone getting played again, and I think it might be worth guessing COBL won't get played.  If it does, I can't see it being played in that spot.  But overall, your narrative makes sense. 
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: ToRontoRon on December 09, 2017, 06:24:41 AM
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It's hard. I'm still thinking through it. Really excited about the possibility of less JT songs, but don't know which ones go and which ones stay.

Also, as great as the IE tour/setlist was (I'm a newer U2 fan so that was my first live show and I've never seen a band use the setlist to tell a story like that; the sequence from IWF to UTTEOTW was beautiful), I think I'd be disappointed if they kept the same structure/idea and just replaced the songs.

Still chewing on all this so I don't really have a setlist to offer. One thing I think would be really cool: the string version of Lights of Home sounds a whole lot like RBW. I loved the way RBW really set the stage for the "experience" set of the IE show, and I think RBW straight into Lights of Home could be a really cool way to do that.

Sorry this isn't really a setlist. Maybe I'll come up with one in the next few days.



Yeah, I wouldn't want a song for song remake of what they did on I + E either, but I'm pretty sure I heard they're using the same stage layout, meaning the screen and e stage will be in use again.  Maybe this time instead of one big story on the screen they just sort of use it sporadically throughout the night.  Your Raised By Wolves into the string version of Lights Of Home idea is intriguing.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: ToRontoRon on December 09, 2017, 06:35:16 AM
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I think you're onto something here.  I posted a somewhat similar list elsewhere, though yours is more fleshed out.  I think it's very possible they'll make use of the light bulb again.  It would be perfect to have it turned back on at the end of 13.  I don't see Joey Ramone getting played again, and I think it might be worth guessing COBL won't get played.  If it does, I can't see it being played in that spot.  But overall, your narrative makes sense. 


I think using the light bulb again is a great idea.  Again, it would be another connection between the two tours, since the two albums are obviously linked.

I think The Miracle will be played again.  It seemed like a decent crowd pleaser to me, and the singalong aspect of it is a good way to get the crowd into the show early on.  My guess is it returns, but we'll see.

City Of Blinding Lights might get the axe for this tour, but I hope not.  I love the song, but I would want them to do more with it than just some blinking poles.  I think this would be a good song for the band to be in the screen for, just like Invisible from the I + E tour.  I think they can come up with some great effects with bright, flashing lights. 




Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: miryclay on December 09, 2017, 08:18:03 AM
Drop some JT stuff
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: miryclay on December 09, 2017, 12:43:40 PM
Play MoS and Little Things as a duo
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: miracle_al on December 11, 2017, 01:34:52 PM
Thanks for putting this together.  At first blush, the encore set seems a bit long.  For some reason, I don't think they'll play "One" or "Vertigo" on this tour, at least not initially.  Also, I hope you're right about "WOWY" and "Streets" staying in the set.  Those songs are indispensable, in my opinion.  Let me think about your set list a bit more and report back.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: U2alwaysforever on December 11, 2017, 08:50:16 PM
Joshua Tree 2017 style for the new record, play the whole SOE album. I know this won't happen... so ideally... rotate some of the songs for the acoustic b stage, really make an effort to play every song, and really hope to hear some Songs Of Innocence, and less likely, Pop. There's just too many good decades now to have the setlist to fit everything we want to hear, I want to hear only SOI and SOE but for a brand new fan seeing them the first time I'd hate for them not to play some JT/AB.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: EdgeUK8_my_mind on December 12, 2017, 08:53:10 PM
This was tougher than I expected.  My prediction is that they will be inspired by the JT30 tour and will play parts of SoE in sequence.  I doubt we'll get the whole thing, but the first 5 almost seem like a natural progression and the last ones seem like a great ending.

Music over intercom: Love Is All We Have Left (instead of playing it, I think this is perfect for the setup)
1)   Lights Of Home (sets the stage - I shouldn't be here 'cause I should be dead)
2)   You're The Best Thing About Me
3)   Get Out Of Your Own Way
4)   American Soul
5)   Beautiful Day (transition to some crowd favorites)
6)   Elevation
7)   Vertigo
8.)   1 in rotation from the middle of SoE (Summer Of Love/Red Flag Day/The Showman/Landlady)
9)   The Little Things That Give You Away OR Ordinary Love
10)   Pride
11)   City of Blinding Lights
12)   Until the End of the World

e-stage
13)   Mysterious Ways
14)   Desire OR All I Want is You
15)   Every Breaking Wave

back to catwalk and main stage
16)   With or Without You
17)   Sunday Bloody Sunday
18)   Bad (MoS extended snippet)
19)   Streets

Encore
20)   The Blackout (I put it at the start of the encore instead of the start of the show)
21)   Ultraviolet (brings back the light bulb from i&e)
22)   Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way (has to be in the encore - this will be HUGE live)
23)   One
24)   13 (There Is A Light) (that with the Song For Someone built in snippet brings it all together to close it out)

War 1 song
TUF 2 songs
TJT 2 songs
R&H 1 song
AB 4 songs
ATYCLB 2 songs
HTDAAB 2 songs
SoI 1 song
SoE 9 songs per night, not including intro music
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Allhorizonbomb on December 13, 2017, 12:22:00 AM
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Play MoS and Little Things as a duo

Oh don't tempt me with that thought.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: miracle_al on December 14, 2017, 12:27:58 PM
I hope EdgeUK is right!  That would be an epic show!  In a perfect world, I'd trade a couple of the SOE songs for SOI songs, but I'd gladly take what was laid out.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: hollywoodswag on December 16, 2017, 01:04:54 PM
I'm going to try to balance realism with my wishlist:

1) The Blackout
2) You're the Best Thing About Me
3) Song for Someone/13 blend
4) All I Want Is You (Walk to the Water snippet)
5) A Sort of Homecoming
6) City of Blinding Lights
7) Elevation OR Beautiful Day
8) Every Breaking Wave
9) Get Out of Your Own Way
*Intermission/Kendrick Lamar interlude to e-stage portion)
10) American Soul
11) The Fly OR EBTTRT
12) Zoo Station
13) Mysterious Ways
14) Dirty Day OR Stay
15) Gone
16) Last Night on Earth
17) Moment of Surrender OR Unknown Caller
18) Bad
19) The Little Things That Give You Away

20) Where the Streets Have No Name
21) Electric Co. OR Out of Control OR I Will Follow
22) Gloria OR I Fall Down OR I Threw a Brick
23) New Years Day OR SBS
24) Vertigo
25) Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way

I know this contains a good bit of wishful thinking, but it has something from every album and maintains the SOI and SOE focus, along with themes that tie in with each other.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Number1U2fan on December 21, 2017, 03:39:47 PM
1  The Blackout
2  Gloria/I Will Follow (rotating on cities with multiple nights)
3  The Miracle Of Joey Ramone
4  You're The Best Thing About Me
5  Song For Someone
6  Last Night On Earth
7  Beautiful Day
8  Vertigo
9  Lights Of Home
10 Get Out Of Your Own Way
11 American Soul

**e stage**
12 Sunday Bloody Sunday
13 New Years Day
14 Little Things That Give You Away
15 Bad

**encore main stage**

16 One
17 Where The Streets Have No Name
18  13 (There Is A Light)

**encore II **

19 Every Breaking Wave (done on e-stage)

(Main Stage)
20 City Of Blinding Lights
21 All I Want Is You
22 Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
**most nights show over**

23 Out Of Control **on certain nights out of the blue**

Going with The Blackout as the opener. I think they'll start like the Elevation Tour did with the house lights on and when Bono hits in the last chorus "When the lights go out...." the house lights will go out and crowd goes kookoo....OR at the very end of the song when its just Bono singing the verse ..Lights go out...lights go out..the minute he finishes the lights will go out and they rip into either Gloria or I Will Follow to keep the crowd pogoing! HA!
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: A_Fly_On_The_Wall on December 31, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
Main Stage
Intro: Love Is All We Have Left - (played over PA system as band walks out onto the stage)
1. The Blackout
2. The Fly
3. Until The End Of The World
4. New Year's Day
5. You're The Best Thing About Me
6. Get Out Of Your Own Way
7. American Soul
8. I Will Follow / Gloria / The Electric Co. (will rotate from show to show)
9. Sunday Bloody Sunday
10. Red Flag Day

E-Stage
11. Even Better Than The Real Thing
12. Last Night On Earth
13. Stay (Faraway, So Close!)
14. Staring At The Sun - (acoustic, Bono & Edge)
15. Every Breaking Wave - (piano version)

Main Stage
16. Beautiful Day
17. Vertigo
18. Elevation
19. Lights Of Home
20. Where The Streets Have No Name

Encore 1 - Main Stage
21. Exit
22. City Of Blinding Lights
23. Pride (In The Name Of Love)
24. Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way

Encore 2 - E-Stage
25. One
26. With Or Without You
27. The Little Things That Give You Away
28. "40"
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: georgemccauley on December 31, 2017, 05:58:58 PM
Happy new year everyone. What are the chances of having Bad in the setlist on a regular basis on the tour this year? Given that they've played it on 90% of the shows on JT30, they could be forgiven to give it a break for a while

How often if at all can we expect to hear Bad on the EI tour 2018?
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: georgemccauley on December 31, 2017, 07:23:21 PM
Definitely think this tour is truly the best chance in years to fully rotate each night and give us a varied set list. We havenít had that in years.

 But as we know U2 we should not get our hopes up and expect the formulaic approach of a static set list, it will more than likely be a solid set but I am hoping for some more changes in the set compared to TJT30 last year.

Also is frighteningly obvious that they will perform Get Out Of Your Own Way and American Soul back to back with the spoken part inbetween. Surprised no one has really brought that up yet


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Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: angelofharlem4u2 on December 31, 2017, 10:47:51 PM
[color=pink]We can expect for them to play almost all of the tracks from SOE.

The Blackout (The Opener?)
American Soul
You're The Best Thing About Me
Get Out Of Your Own Way
Red Flag Day


SOI
Miracle of Joey Ramone
Cedarwood Road
Song for Someone
Iris
Raised By Wolves

Would like to hear:
Love and Peace Or Else
Kite
Staring at the Sun
Seconds
Angel of Harlem
Ordinary Love
Lights of Home with orchestra as the closer


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Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: steve70 on January 01, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
I really like hollywoodswag's list. The thing that I'd want is significat variation in the set(order)each night like Pearl Jam does. I know that's not likely though.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Sonofabono on January 02, 2018, 09:09:19 PM
Followed a lot of the SOI breakdown: simple, rocking opening act; big heavy thematic progression at the front; intermission; hits; back to heavy themes to close; encore. Pretty set on most of Set 1/Act 2. Sometimes I just put stuff in different places because I know they're gonna play it but don't know where (e.g., YTBTAM, Little Things).

Set 1, Act 1: Main stage, lights down
1. Miracle
2. Elevation or Vertigo
3. YTBTAM
4. Red Flag Day
5. S4S-->

Set 1, Act 2: Big thematic set
6. GOOYOW-->
7. American Soul
8. LIAWHL (snippet) -->
9. Blackout
10. Gone
11. RBW -->
12. Lights of Home
13. Little Things

-INTERMISSION/SET BREAK-

Set 2, Act 3: Rotating set of hits and acoustic songs on the E-Stage
14-17. Don't really know what songs go here, just some general ideas. Some fixed SOE songs. Rotating hits. R+H/AB hits, Stuck in a Moment, Kite, Sweetest Thing, acoustic Pop songs, etc.

Set 2, Act 4: Back to heavy thematic songs
18. Summer of Love-->
19. Please-->
20. Breathe-->
21. COBL
22. Beautiful Day
23. Love is Bigger
24. One

Encore
25. Streets
26. All I Want Is You
27. 13-->
28. 40
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Argo on January 03, 2018, 01:38:24 AM
Will be interesting to see what SOI songs survive. Some of them are pretty personal eg Iris. I doubt Iris or Song For Someone will be played again, especially with Best Thing (and hopefully Landlady) around now to be the ode to Ali for this tour. Doubt that Raised By Wolves would survive also given how they used it and SBS last time. So, that probably leaves Miracle, EBW, Cedarwood and maybe Troubles and Invisible but probably not even as regulars.

As for SOE, I think Love is Bigger is a clear closer. Best Thing, Own Way, Blackout, Little Things and American Soul seem likely staples, probably also with Lights of Home. Maybe also one or both of RFD and Showman. I don't like Showman much but think it will work well live and Bono will want to do it. Hopefully Book of Your Heart gets a few cameos like Crystal Ballroom did. Could use Love Is All We Have Left as a transition into Streets.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: Zoostation07 on January 08, 2018, 04:05:36 PM
I think the prospect of this tour sees U2 in an unusual place for a number of reasons. What I am most curious about is the 'wow' factor and where that comes from. U2 has looked to invent and innovate with each tour, and each tour has that 'wow' moment - be it the sheer scale (360), the theatrics (i&e and the 'cage' walkway) or the beauty - JT30 (when the screen came on, that was just gorgeous). I don't see where that is going to come from if e&i is going to use the same staging as i&e - for all intents and purposes it will be the same show with different songs. The problem as I see it is that as good as i&e was the cage was a bit of a one trick pony - it worked fantastically with Cedarwood Road and UTTEOTW but seeing it utilised in the same way - which is sort of inevitable if the staging remains the same is going to be a bit like deja vu.

I fear that the 'concept' of the show(s) - both i&e and e&i has the potential to overshadow the music and the sense of occasion and it doesn't leave much room for any deviation from the norm in terms of the setlist choices. I saw three shows on i&e and one on JT but my missus who came to one i&e and to the JT show said that the lack of concept on the latter - just playing the songs - was what made the show so special - and I completely agree - the JT show had much more emotional heft than i&e did - because a) let's be honest the songs are better and b) they weren't having to sell a concept.

I think perhaps one of the reasons they are struggling to sell the tour in the US (other than saturation and making the purchase of tickets almost impossible!) is that there is no differentiation and the casual fan is maybe thinking I've seen this before. And I have to say even as a huge fan I am not fussed about seeing that staging and show again and I'd much rather they parked the i&e/e&i concept and just played the songs - how good was U2 at the BBC? It was fantastic - they sounded wonderful - and there were no bells and whistles (just a massive orchestra!).

The band is often on record as saying, especially in recent years, that it is 'about the songs'. I suppose my hope is that they have more faith in the songs and their audience - we don't need to be spoon fed all of the 'extras', we each have our own stories and memories associated with the songs and i think the majority of us would be over the moon if they played those songs - and all of those ones they don't play - without too much of the rest (cages, animations, stories, concept etc.).

To the topic. As per any U2 album, they have thought about which ones are going to be played live and they've spoken in the recent promo campaign about playing some (or all) of these songs live as a band in the recording process of SOE in order to hone them. I'm guessing that every show will get (in album order) Love Is All We Have Left (perhaps similar to how Zooropa was used on i&e), Lights of Home, YTBTAM, GOOYOW, American Soul (in the US at least) and LIBTAIIW. I think then Little Things, Blackout and 13 could be fairly regular and then it's a toss-up as to what they choose out of Summer of Love, Red Flag Day, The Showman and Landlady - I'm sure they'll be a few of these in the opening sets but they'll no doubt get dropped as the tour goes on and they work out what works/doesn't work. I think I remember hearing/reading that they would revisit some of the SOI songs - if that's the case I'd imagine it would be some of the songs that were not regularly played, perhaps California and the Troubles, plus EBW which is clearly an important song for them. I think Ordinary Love might find a place in the set - again it appears to be an important song for the band (Bono at least) so now that it is 'on' an album (at least on the special edition anyway) it might get a few more airings.

When they were doing the promo for JT30 I think it was Adam who was talking about why the shows began at SBS and not IWF for example and he said it was because they'd covered that bit in the i&e shows with the opening sequence which would suggest that the earlier albums will be lightly picked from on e&i. It would be interesting if, and again I think Edge might have said something similar, they were to continue the theme and only play post JT songs on this tour. I can't see that happening - I don't think they'll drop SBS, Pride or Streets for example but a show that pulled from post JT records would be brave. However - there is the 'concept'. I think U2 have a pretty clear idea about what they 'do' and what their role is which can be summed up as 'there is no them there is only us' - it's a universal message which I think means that anything more 'personal' - i.e. a lot of AB and Pop - unless it can be made universal (One) is probably not going to fit with their theme and message of the SOE songs and where they are 'at' as a band.

So in terms of the rest of the set...All I Want Is You, One, Stay, Stuck In A Moment, Kite... that feels like the right sort of tone...plus the numbers they'll always do BD, Vertigo probably Elevation (groan!).
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: U2craig on January 15, 2018, 06:12:23 AM
Above and beyond the new songs I would love to see them ditch most of the same classics (not all though) that they have been playing live for years and bring back some from htdaab & atyclb.  Some great ones there!
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: dezmaas on January 18, 2018, 11:55:17 PM
I would definitely love to to see The Fly come back as a full kick ass version. Bono canít play guitar of course but he didnít play on the Elevation Tour version and that was awesome.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: the_chief on January 19, 2018, 01:43:06 AM
Don't care, just want Electric Co.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: chrwalli on January 19, 2018, 06:23:55 AM
I really hope they play Exit on this tour. Maybe the best one from the JT tour. So dark and powerful.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: jocu2 on January 24, 2018, 06:59:05 AM
GOOYOW and BD in the same show? They're too similar for me. Given the choice, BD all day long.

JT & Achtung Baby need to make up at least 8 songs for the tour to appeal to the casual fans.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: PROJ2823 on January 24, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
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GOOYOW and BD in the same show? They're too similar for me. Given the choice, BD all day long.

JT & Achtung Baby need to make up at least 8 songs for the tour to appeal to the casual fans.
Casual fans should have gone to JT 2017. It is due time for the band to ditch some of the classics in favor of new songs and deep cuts.
Let this be a tour for the die hards.
(considering prices, I expect it to be).
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: georgemccauley on January 26, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Can we get Bad again this tour? :)
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: bass slap on January 28, 2018, 01:45:52 PM
Impossible to guess the set list in full so just going to make some general points on how I think they'll approach.
Blackout to open, has to be. But failing that lights of home.
start off with experience theme with bells and whistles production in place on screen etc... Think zootv as a bit of a template. Likely open with 4 or 5 experience songs as they seem confident/happy with it. in terms of flow and feel maybe something like:

Blackout = zoo station
Lights of home = fly
ytbtam = EBTTRT
GOOYOW = mysterious ways
Summer of love = one

Then into 90's classics. The fly very likely.
JT will barely feature. Streets & wowoy as the possible exceptions and will feature in the transition period to innocence along with your pride etcetera.
The innocence section will contain a couple of boy-war era tunes and vertigo era which references their early days, plus maybe one innocence song.

This would fit thematically, but they like to save a big hit in the encores so not sure what that would be. Probably something that will contradict the theme by throwing in one at the end or beautiful day..
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: larrys pants on January 29, 2018, 09:16:44 AM
On I&E they played songs from Boy and October (highlights of the show) they then said they didn't want to do that again for JT so went for War and UF so by that logic expect AB, Zooropa and Pop to be next maybe even Rattle and Hum( JT is a given).
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: OptimaX on January 31, 2018, 01:17:29 PM
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On I&E they played songs from Boy and October (highlights of the show) they then said they didn't want to do that again for JT so went for War and UF so by that logic expect AB, Zooropa and Pop to be next maybe even Rattle and Hum( JT is a given).

I think you're on to something here. After the massive Joshua Tree tour 2017, where a lot 'mainstream' songs were played, and even quite a few also in IE Tour, I think they'll be slightly more adventurous with EI. So I do believe we (finally) might see some 90s rarities return.
Title: Re: Your E + I setlist
Post by: pan360 on February 01, 2018, 06:51:54 AM
Songs of Innocence + Songs of Experience = 29 songs.

So, I would be happy to hear 15 songs from SOI + SOE and nine older songs in a 24 songs setlist.

My wish list for the nine older songs:
- Kite
- Please
- The Fly
- Stuck in a moment
- No Line
- All I want is you
- Staring at the sun
- Bad
- Zooropa