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Title: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on June 26, 2019, 03:01:18 PM
So the other side of the world have been blessed with the band playing live after being starved of life's pleasures since 2010. New lands will expereince the power of U2 live for the very first time....

Which brings me to the issue of what songs will the play in a 25 song set ? We can pretty much assume The Joshua tree will occupy slots between 5 and 16. So they will play the best of the rest like they did in 2017. However given I/E and E/I never made it over there, i hope they play some tunes from these fine albums in the set. I know the band have said songs from their recent output wouldn'f fit in a stadium setting but I respectfully disagreee. The Blackout is the stand out track for me and one that could serioiusly rock a stadium. Other songs that I feel could warrant an inclusion Love is Bigger, Get out of your own way, Lights of Home and Summer of Love. They've done best thing and little things on the JT 2017 tour so they could make a reapperance .

Now Songs of innocence. I think Invisible, Raised by Wolves, California, Iris, Every Breaking Wave or The Troubles could warrant an inclusion.

just hope its not a standard repeat of JT 2017 and will also contain one brand new song that give a hint to their future direction on Songs of Ascent...

Roll on November...
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: d.darroch on June 26, 2019, 07:00:02 PM
I hope you're right. It could go either way, a total rehash for areas that didn't experience JT 2017. Or something that incorporates the best of the two recent arena tours.

I'm hoping for the latter.

The following doesn't seem to be a popular view. But as it'll be after sunset at show time, I'd be happy for them to come out with Streets & hit JT straight off the bat. Sure, Streets is at it's best with a great segue, but it would be a different approach, & would give a nod to how the original JT shows usually began. More importantly, it would leave a lot more room later in the set for some SoI/SoE action, plus the usual other hits & a rarity or two. We could also really get a show of two halves. First the nostalgia of JT. Maybe an intermission along the lines of Love is All We Have Left, or not. Then straight into The Blackout. A total change from the set of songs before it! A great way to lead into a more modern set, highlighting the newer material.

I'm with you & think The Blackout could be amazing in a stadium. I do like Love is Bigger but was still surprised by how well it worked last year. So I could see them closing with that. I love Summer of Love, so hope it gets an acoustic slot. I really love Red Flag Day, so praying it gets another shot, though not expecting much, after it's sudden departure. I'd also hope that Acrobat makes it, as it was such a highlight of last year's tour. I think it's 50/50 of this will happen, at best.

I can't see then retaining too much of i+e, as it was a few years ago now. I hope they somehow work the Raised By Wolves/UTEOTW pairing in there, as it was such a highlight. I love The Troubles, but I think there's Buckley's chance, as it didn't even get a fair run on i+e.

Hopefully we get 24-26 song sets, not the 21-22 songs we've been seeing at times. As it's been so long since they've visited these shores, I think the crowds deserve a decent length set. But I'm not holding my breath, the fact that Noel is coming along for the ride may mean it's a short set again. I hope not!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Drowning Fan on June 26, 2019, 07:18:59 PM
My preferred JT2019 setlist keeping in mind some rarely played songs and hits to keep the casuals happy

New Years Day (St Francis Hotel Remix)
Two Hearts Beat as One
A Sort of Homecoming
Bad
TJT full album
UTEOW
Wild Horses
Gone
Please
Walk on
City of Blinding Lights
Raised By Wolves
Best Thing or Little Things

23 songs. I would love more but not expecting it.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Drowning Fan on June 26, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Remember Asia/Australia also gets Red Hill for the first time and the return of Exit.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: d.darroch on June 27, 2019, 03:03:22 AM
I've been playing this game on the setlist thread over on U2Start,
https://u2start.com/topic/11781/0/15/

I've thrown up a few quite out there setlists that will never happen.

A Lovetown setlist (focusing on JT & R&H), when I was hoping for a Lovetown 30 tour, not a rehashed JT 32 tour.

An Innocent night / Experience night setlist. The Innocence night being pre-AB, JT & SoI. The Experience night being JT, AB to NLOTH & SoE.

But I will post the setlist I described above. Starting with Streets, to make room for the most recent albums.

The Joshua Tree + i+e+i
1. Where the Streets Have No Name
2. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
3. With or Without You
4. Bullet the Blue Sky
5. Running to Stand Still
6. Red Hill Mining Town
7. In God's Country
8. Trip Through Your Wires
9. One Tree Hill
10. Exit
11. Mothers of the Disappeared

*** Intermission (Love Is All We Have Left) ***

12. The Blackout
13. Lights Of Home / Red Flag Day
14. Zoo Station
15. The Fly
16. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
17. Desire / All I Want is You
18. Acrobat
19. Summer Of Love / Starting At The Sun
20. New Year's Day / A Sort Of Homecoming
21. Raised By Wolves
22. Until the End of the World

****** Encore ******

23. Beautiful Day / Vertigo
24. Gone / Bad
25. One
26. Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way / The Little Things That Give You Away


As I said, starting with the nostalgia of JT, to make room for the highlights of i+e/e+i later in the show.  A short break (or intermission) after Mother's of the Disappeared. Ripping into The Blackout, which will totally change the mood of the concert! A slight nod to i+e with the pairing of RBW & UTEOTW, & Little Things. A tiny nod to Lovetown with AIWIY / Desire. Highlights of e+i with LIAWHL, The Blackout, Lights of Home / Red Flag Day, Zoo Station, The Fly, Horses, Acrobat, Summer of Love / Starting at the Sun, & Love is Bigger. Plus a few other hits thrown in the encore. Gone must be played at Sydney 1. The anniversary of Michael Hutchence death.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: summerholly on June 27, 2019, 04:02:25 AM
I have no real interest in the innocence and experience albums so can take or leave that although perhaps they sound good live so wont complain if they play a couple.  I hope they play New Years day, Wild horses, the Fly maybe even Shes a Mystery to me!  Really I will enjoy whatever they play as I have never seen them live so fully intend to enjoy the whole experience!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: jules on July 04, 2019, 08:50:51 AM
My bet would be they'll play generally the same setlist as per the JT2017 tour... with GOOYOW or Best Thing thrown in
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: singnomore on July 04, 2019, 09:51:31 AM
I suspect it would be a mixed up list - they cant go to Asia and not play SOI/SOE material i wouldn't have thought
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Midnight is Where the Day Begins on July 06, 2019, 11:27:42 PM
I would expect that they'd probably have to somehow merge songs from both tours together. It would seem weird to completely ignore SOI & SOE.

I liked the idea somebody had of doing the first half as the Joshua Tree, and then a constricted version of the Innocence and Experience tours after it.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: summerholly on July 07, 2019, 05:26:57 AM
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I would expect that they'd probably have to somehow merge songs from both tours together. It would seem weird to completely ignore SOI & SOE.

I liked the idea somebody had of doing the first half as the Joshua Tree, and then a constricted version of the Innocence and Experience tours after it.

Hope not but hey I will enjoy whatever comes my way!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: jgrooms on July 08, 2019, 11:39:10 AM
I have no reason to believe it won't be the 2017 show with perhaps a few different songs swapped in.  Primarily the hits of the era (or before) and very doubtful any SOI/SOE songs.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: JaraSangASongAWeapon on July 10, 2019, 09:55:00 PM
Gonna be the same soup more or less as TJT 2017 with maybe a few songs subbed in as the tour goes along. I expect AIWIY and maybe some other Rattle and Hum material being the 30th anniversary of Lovetown. Not sure if SBS will open but I do expect them to lead into TJT with pre TJT material and after TJT, a mix of post TJT. One U2 fan friend thinks ASOH will open the show. That'd be amazing but doubt it. I'll see them in GA in Sydney both shows. And, I think Seoul will turn out to be the final U2 show ever.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: singnomore on July 11, 2019, 05:27:35 AM
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Gonna be the same soup more or less as TJT 2017 with maybe a few songs subbed in as the tour goes along. I expect AIWIY and maybe some other Rattle and Hum material being the 30th anniversary of Lovetown. Not sure if SBS will open but I do expect them to lead into TJT with pre TJT material and after TJT, a mix of post TJT. One U2 fan friend thinks ASOH will open the show. That'd be amazing but doubt it. I'll see them in GA in Sydney both shows. And, I think Seoul will turn out to be the final U2 show ever.

I've been there too on last shows - I'm less certain now but i do think there will be a long break after this.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: JaraSangASongAWeapon on July 12, 2019, 05:38:18 PM
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Gonna be the same soup more or less as TJT 2017 with maybe a few songs subbed in as the tour goes along. I expect AIWIY and maybe some other Rattle and Hum material being the 30th anniversary of Lovetown. Not sure if SBS will open but I do expect them to lead into TJT with pre TJT material and after TJT, a mix of post TJT. One U2 fan friend thinks ASOH will open the show. That'd be amazing but doubt it. I'll see them in GA in Sydney both shows. And, I think Seoul will turn out to be the final U2 show ever.

I've been there too on last shows - I'm less certain now but i do think there will be a long break after this.

Agree on the long break, but where does the band go from here artistically? They could tour their greatest hits and not make any new music, and that'd be fine with Live Nation bean counters. I just don't see U2 making a new album after the slow gestation of SOI/SOE, and the deep biographical themes. They've done it all as artists.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Catlithco on July 14, 2019, 09:52:15 AM
I am sure that they might have their final concerts soon, but I don’t think they will have their final concert in Seoul.
I don’t think they will end the career outside of Dublin, or at least outside of Europe.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: 73October on July 14, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
I think they will come up with something. But politics in it's normal mode is 'done' now. So they will need to look at something not fixated on American and European ideas.
Maybe something spiritual? Maybe temporal, such as an autobiographical account of raising up their contenders to the throne (if you believe the hype surrounding Hewson Junior).
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on July 15, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
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Gonna be the same soup more or less as TJT 2017 with maybe a few songs subbed in as the tour goes along. Not sure if SBS will open but I do expect them to lead into TJT with pre TJT material and after TJT, a mix of post TJT. One U2 fan friend thinks ASOH will open the show. That'd be amazing but doubt it. I'll see them in GA in Sydney both shows. And, I think Seoul will turn out to be the final U2 show ever.
I don't see them altering what really worked for them last time around...  'Sunday Bloody Sunday' was a fantastic way to start off the night...  should they change the opener up then look for a similar scenario where they each appear one after another as the song starts...  look for minor tweaks, such as flipping 'The Unforgettable Fire' for 'Bad' etc...  highly doubt that they'd play anything from the 'Innocence' album, especially considering that they'd dropped virtually all 'Innocence' tunes from the set by the end of the last tour...  A couple of 'Experience' tunes found their way into the set during the first 30th Anniversary stint, but not on a nightly basis...  even then, it was before the album even came out while they appeared to only be altering the set to make it more interesting for themselves...

I see this tour as an attempt to get back to what worked before, just as the 30th Anniversary tour successfully re-established them as one of the World's Greatest Draws...  the two arena tours that bookended The Joshua Tree were experiments that garnered mixed reviews with empty seats and nowhere near the success of The Joshua Tree, artistically or otherwise...  The Southern Hemisphere missed out on one their cream of the crop live productions in 2017 and this should be about continuing that experience for them instead of interweaving material that couldn't even fill arenas last time around...  there's no need to promote material that those who were interested in it would've bought by now...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: JaraSangASongAWeapon on July 16, 2019, 12:40:41 AM
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I am sure that they might have their final concerts soon, but I don’t think they will have their final concert in Seoul.
I don’t think they will end the career outside of Dublin, or at least outside of Europe.

I'm saying it isn't necessarily their intent to have a final concert in Seoul, but I think it will turn out to be. After those shows a long break and who knows what happens in the interim.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Droo on July 16, 2019, 08:42:08 AM
They'll perform TJT followed by an intermission and then NLOTH from start to finish. :p
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: garyu2 on July 17, 2019, 02:06:45 AM
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They'll perform TJT followed by an intermission and then NLOTH from start to finish. :p

And watch the stadium empty after Mothers of the Disappeared. 😂
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: summerholly on July 21, 2019, 04:59:45 AM
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I think they will come up with something. But politics in it's normal mode is 'done' now. So they will need to look at something not fixated on American and European ideas.
Maybe something spiritual? Maybe temporal, such as an autobiographical account of raising up their contenders to the throne (if you believe the hype surrounding Hewson Junior).

I must live in a vacuum, I have never heard anything about Hewson junior nor do I really care to at a U2 concert as he and his band will have their own journey.  I just want them to come out and play lots of good music!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: singnomore on July 21, 2019, 01:45:31 PM
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I think they will come up with something. But politics in it's normal mode is 'done' now. So they will need to look at something not fixated on American and European ideas.
Maybe something spiritual? Maybe temporal, such as an autobiographical account of raising up their contenders to the throne (if you believe the hype surrounding Hewson Junior).

I must live in a vacuum, I have never heard anything about Hewson junior nor do I really care to at a U2 concert as he and his band will have their own journey.  I just want them to come out and play lots of good music!

I couldn't imagine Bono would want Inhaler open for them - I think he would see that as a hindrance to what they may be trying to pursue. So my guess is your safe!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on July 21, 2019, 02:37:53 PM
They must be thinking or starting to think about rehearsals...will they rehearse in Dublin or when they are out there ?

3 and a half months to go till opening night.....mghahahah.....
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on July 25, 2019, 08:21:52 PM
one tweak to watch out for would be the 'Miss Sarajevo' slot which, I believe eventually dropped its initial nightly showing by tour's end...  its, dare I say, "relevance" (for lack of a better word...  honest!) saw some dubbing it as 'Miss Syria' during the 2017 Tour...  I'm thinking that the unfortunate tragedies from recent years that still haunt this corner of the globe may see a spotlight shone in their direction there...  not sure which tune "exemplifies" this notion but, for those who bang the 'Rattle & Hum' drum 'round here...  how about "f*** the revolution!" from the film itself?...  they absolutely must open with 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' and keep it real...  drop 'I Will Follow' (which wasn't played every night) and give 'em 'An Cat Dubh/Into The Heart' instead...  should be a Good Time...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Lmteal on July 25, 2019, 08:33:26 PM
My preferred set list has soi and soe elements. I don’t expect U2 to do this, but here’s my picks

1 the miracle
2 cedar wood road
3 out of control / I will follow / electric co (alternating)
4 new years day / sort of homecoming (alt)
5 pride
6 bullet
7 running
8 red hill
9 gods country
10 trip
11 one tree
12 exit
13 mothers
14 streets
15 still haven’t
16 with or without
17 (a nod to the “cutting down the jt”) get out of your own way
18 zoo stn / the fly (alt)

Encore
19 magnificent
20 beautiful day
21 vertigo
22 one / ordinary live (alt)
23 love is bigger

I would go home quite happy with this set list.  On this tour, it is the jt cuts that are going to be the deep cuts.  Beyond that, start and finish strong. 
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Eggos on July 30, 2019, 04:32:56 PM
I’d say the setlist is mostly the same. First time for some countries, lots of the hits need to be played. They ignored innocence last year in Europe. They’ll play 2 experience songs after TJT.

1) Sunday Bloody Sunday
2) New Years Day
3) Bad
4) Pride
5-15) TJT
16) beautiful day
17) elevation
18) vertigo
19) get out of your own way
20) Love is Bigger Than Anything in Its way
21) One

Maybe throw in an occasional I will Follow/out of Control. Maybe mysterious ways too.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on July 31, 2019, 01:54:04 PM
they must drop in one song from their next body of work...for a band who prides themselves on staying relevant and fresh material, i will be suprrised if this leg of the tour doesn't feature at least one brand new song...

u2songss.com report they're looking to announce another asian date on the 14th december....my bet is hong kong...
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: McSwilly on August 06, 2019, 04:34:18 PM
If I am down under or in Asia and have waited years for the best live band ever, I would be deeply disappointed if they added in ANY Experience / Innocent songs. Having seen all three recent North America Tours, it was those new songs that sent people (other than die hard in this forum) running to the bathroom. I am all about the classics! Bring on the BOY 40 year tour!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: miryclay on August 06, 2019, 05:31:05 PM
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If I am down under or in Asia and have waited years for the best live band ever, I would be deeply disappointed if they added in ANY Experience / Innocent songs. Having seen all three recent North America Tours, it was those new songs that sent people (other than die hard in this forum) running to the bathroom. I am all about the classics! Bring on the BOY 40 year tour!

I'm sure they will ad some McSwilly considerations.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: summerholly on August 10, 2019, 07:08:27 PM
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If I am down under or in Asia and have waited years for the best live band ever, I would be deeply disappointed if they added in ANY Experience / Innocent songs. Having seen all three recent North America Tours, it was those new songs that sent people (other than die hard in this forum) running to the bathroom. I am all about the classics! Bring on the BOY 40 year tour!

I am with you on this one and I am going to an Aussie show and first ever for me!  I didn't even know Innocence and Experience existed until I found Innocence lurking to be downloaded in iTunes a long time after it had been waiting there.   
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Luzita on August 12, 2019, 08:31:55 PM
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I have no real interest in the innocence and experience albums so can take or leave that although perhaps they sound good live so wont complain if they play a couple.  I hope they play New Years day, Wild horses, the Fly maybe even Shes a Mystery to me!  Really I will enjoy whatever they play as I have never seen them live so fully intend to enjoy the whole experience!
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Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: summerholly on August 15, 2019, 08:31:42 PM
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I have no real interest in the innocence and experience albums so can take or leave that although perhaps they sound good live so wont complain if they play a couple.  I hope they play New Years day, Wild horses, the Fly maybe even Shes a Mystery to me!  Really I will enjoy whatever they play as I have never seen them live so fully intend to enjoy the whole experience!
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Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on September 03, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
They must have started or looking to start rehearsals soon ....i hope we get some further deep cuts that haven't shown up over the last 3 tours....maybe walk to the water...


I actually think - the book of your heart would be good as walk on music for the band as opposed to using other bands material....
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: jgrooms on September 19, 2019, 11:53:38 AM
Picking songs is only a small fraction of what decides the set list.  Each song has to have the production designed behind it which takes people, time and money.  Considering the JT 2019 tour is mainly a money grab I find it highly unlikely you will see significant changes from the 2017 set list since all the production work will be re-used.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on September 22, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
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the JT 2019 tour is mainly a money grab
I don't see it as "a money grab"...  the gross won't be astronomical and the cost of staging it staggering...  they'll tack the totals onto the 2017 tour to make it look a lot better than it really is...  it's a lot of countries to pack into, what?  six week gig...  I see it more as a "fan service" to an often overlooked demographic for long overdue personal touch...

reusing the excellent films, stage setup and song selection not only makes sense financially but is the right call artistically, in my opinion...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: d.darroch on September 22, 2019, 06:50:28 PM
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reusing the excellent films, stage setup and song selection not only makes sense financially but is the right call artistically, in my opinion...:-)

Until Mothers of the Disappeared at least. After that I think things lost their way a bit, & could be improved upon.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: amkel on October 08, 2019, 01:21:28 PM
30 days until Auckland. Although I expect the set list to be much the same as 2017 I hope we get a decent mix of the IE and EI songs. 

Actually just realised the first Auckland concert is 30 years to the day since my first U2 concert. Might just have to dust off my old Lovetown T-shirt for the occasion
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: superstar905 on October 25, 2019, 08:23:38 PM
SOI and SOE songs are amazing live.   You guys will love them.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: 64ac30 on October 26, 2019, 02:18:47 AM
Honestly, I’m expecting the 2017 set list minus Ultraviolet, best thing and Sarajevo. Add in Get out your Way and Love is Bigger (before of after one as concert closer). 0 innocence songs. Add in mysterious ways and all I want is you.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: 64ac30 on October 26, 2019, 02:23:54 AM
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SOI and SOE songs are amazing live.   You guys will love them.

What is everyone expecting about SOI? Do you really think they’ll play Cedarwood Road or Iris 😂. The only songs that ever have a chance of being heard again are Miracle, EBW, and SFS. The rest are gone. And these 3 are out of place for JT19.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on October 27, 2019, 10:19:45 AM
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SOI and SOE songs are amazing live.   You guys will love them.

What is everyone expecting about SOI? Do you really think they’ll play Cedarwood Road or Iris 😂. The only songs that ever have a chance of being heard again are Miracle, EBW, and SFS. The rest are gone. And these 3 are out of place for JT19.

the band had dropped ALL 'Innocence' songs by the end of the 'e+i' tour...  the album is a blemish on their remarkable body of work and should be squelched for good, in my opinion...  if they couldn't see to even one of those songs making the final sets for a tour with "iNNOCENCE' in its actual billing then I don't see how they'd justify unearthing any of them for 'The Joshua Tree'...  sure there are some fans where 'Every Breaking Wave' would be high on their wishlist but how many of those would be blown away by the weak piano/vocal rendition that's been delivered by them live so far?...  'October' would be a far more effective piano/vocal showcase for 'The Joshua Tree'...  if you're gonna pull out 'The Best Thing About Me' then go back to doing it full band as well, the acoustic version just doesn't grip a stadium setting...  especially when it's showcased later on after the intermission when the crowd is expecting to go out on a high note...  if Bono needs to rest his voice so soon after they just had a break then he should consider retiring...

they need not tweak the set too much from opening night in Vancouver...  even the encore sequence doesn't need a whole lot of tinkering, in my opinion...  stick 'Walk On' in there instead of 'Elevation', or say 'Stuck In The Moment'...  ending with 'The Little Things That Give You Away' was excellent but perhaps wouldn't have the same lustre for it was never played before, so how about ending with another great new song? (that's if one is ready)…  'MLK' has not been performed live since Vancouver 2017 and I think they should slot it back in again before 'Pride (In The Name of Love)' for it makes that song's punch in much more effective (a nice flashback to Amnesty International 1986)...  other than maybe playing 'The Unforgettable Fire' in place of 'A Sort of Homecoming'/'Bad' on some nights, they really don't need to remake what all ready worked so well in 2017, it's just time to share it with the rest of the world, that's all...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: cocamojoe on October 28, 2019, 10:41:20 PM
Na, MLK seques far better into Streets than Pride on any day of the week.

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SOI and SOE songs are amazing live.   You guys will love them.

What is everyone expecting about SOI? Do you really think they’ll play Cedarwood Road or Iris 😂. The only songs that ever have a chance of being heard again are Miracle, EBW, and SFS. The rest are gone. And these 3 are out of place for JT19.

the band had dropped ALL 'Innocence' songs by the end of the 'e+i' tour...  the album is a blemish on their remarkable body of work and should be squelched for good, in my opinion...  if they couldn't see to even one of those songs making the final sets for a tour with "iNNOCENCE' in its actual billing then I don't see how they'd justify unearthing any of them for 'The Joshua Tree'...  sure there are some fans where 'Every Breaking Wave' would be high on their wishlist but how many of those would be blown away by the weak piano/vocal rendition that's been delivered by them live so far?...  'October' would be a far more effective piano/vocal showcase for 'The Joshua Tree'...  if you're gonna pull out 'The Best Thing About Me' then go back to doing it full band as well, the acoustic version just doesn't grip a stadium setting...  especially when it's showcased later on after the intermission when the crowd is expecting to go out on a high note...  if Bono needs to rest his voice so soon after they just had a break then he should consider retiring...

they need not tweak the set too much from opening night in Vancouver...  even the encore sequence doesn't need a whole lot of tinkering, in my opinion...  stick 'Walk On' in there instead of 'Elevation', or say 'Stuck In The Moment'...  ending with 'The Little Things That Give You Away' was excellent but perhaps wouldn't have the same lustre for it was never played before, so how about ending with another great new song? (that's if one is ready)…  'MLK' has not been performed live since Vancouver 2017 and I think they should slot it back in again before 'Pride (In The Name of Love)' for it makes that song's punch in much more effective (a nice flashback to Amnesty International 1986)...  other than maybe playing 'The Unforgettable Fire' in place of 'A Sort of Homecoming'/'Bad' on some nights, they really don't need to remake what all ready worked so well in 2017, it's just time to share it with the rest of the world, that's all...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on October 30, 2019, 10:04:47 AM
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Na, MLK seques far better into Streets than Pride on any day of the week

'Where The Streets Have No Name' all ready sports a haunting intro and while 'MLK' may blend into it nicely, it doesn't accent the band kicking in any further than it all ready does, in my opinion...  it only succeeds in prolonging the entrance...  'MLK/Pride (In The Name of Love)' works perfectly together...  aside from the obvious lyrical content similarities, the band kicking in just as the ethereal lullaby closes stops one dead in their tracks and gives more power to an all ready powerful vocal performance from Bono...  'Where The Streets Have No Name' works far better as the segue after 'Pride (In The Name of Love)' ends while the crowd is still chanting the outro as was performed on opening night in Vancouver 2017...  Bono's "fear" and "justice" speech was quite effective during this performance because he finished it up before the entrance of 'Where The Streets Have No Name' began...  unfortunately, Bono chose to layer the speech overtop of the 'Where The Streets Have No Name's intro for virtually every performance after opening night...  not knocking the speech just the timing of it, for he literally kills "the moment" and should clam up during the excellent 'Where The Streets Have No Name' intro...  let the music speak for itself during "the moment" as he did on opening night in Vancouver...  'The Joshua Tree' intro is a moment that the band does an outstanding job of building toward with the 2017 setlists and Larry really should have a talk with Bono here...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: cocamojoe on October 31, 2019, 11:10:24 AM
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Na, MLK seques far better into Streets than Pride on any day of the week

'Where The Streets Have No Name' all ready sports a haunting intro and while 'MLK' may blend into it nicely, it doesn't accent the band kicking in any further than it all ready does, in my opinion...  it only succeeds in prolonging the entrance...  'MLK/Pride (In The Name of Love)' works perfectly together...  aside from the obvious lyrical content similarities, the band kicking in just as the ethereal lullaby closes stops one dead in their tracks and gives more power to an all ready powerful vocal performance from Bono...  'Where The Streets Have No Name' works far better as the segue after 'Pride (In The Name of Love)' ends while the crowd is still chanting the outro as was performed on opening night in Vancouver 2017...  Bono's "fear" and "justice" speech was quite effective during this performance because he finished it up before the entrance of 'Where The Streets Have No Name' began...  unfortunately, Bono chose to layer the speech overtop of the 'Where The Streets Have No Name's intro for virtually every performance after opening night...  not knocking the speech just the timing of it, for he literally kills "the moment" and should clam up during the excellent 'Where The Streets Have No Name' intro...  let the music speak for itself during "the moment" as he did on opening night in Vancouver...  'The Joshua Tree' intro is a moment that the band does an outstanding job of building toward with the 2017 setlists and Larry really should have a talk with Bono here...:-)

That’s partially why I don’t like Pride into Streets. And, it’s not only the JT17 tour, as he did the same sermonizing type thing on the Vertigo Tour, at least at my stop in Atlanta way back then (2005 or 2006).

For me, it’s the synths that he’ll blend the songs perfectly, and I love that MLK closes out the Unforgettable Fire album, while Streets opens JT, too! If listened to in sequence (I assume that most of us are nerd enough that we’ve listened to all of their albums in sequential order at least once?), it’s just a perfect bridge between those two albums!
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on October 31, 2019, 02:43:45 PM
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That’s partially why I don’t like Pride into Streets. And, it’s not only the JT17 tour, as he did the same sermonizing type thing on the Vertigo Tour, at least at my stop in Atlanta way back then (2005 or 2006).

For me, it’s the synths that he’ll blend the songs perfectly, and I love that MLK closes out the Unforgettable Fire album, while Streets opens JT, too! If listened to in sequence (I assume that most of us are nerd enough that we’ve listened to all of their albums in sequential order at least once?), it’s just a perfect bridge between those two albums!
guess where I differ is that 'MLK/Pride (In The Name of Love)' is how they opened most 1986 shows inbetween the two albums which I, personally, see as the "perfect bridge"...  of note is that when I saw them perform in 1987, it was 'The Unforgettable Fire' that followed 'MLK' which also worked quite well together...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on November 03, 2019, 12:35:51 PM
according to u2songs.com, it seems they are going down the ie/ei, jt +famous deep cut route which is logical given that side of the world didn't get to experience the innocence ( and experience) era.

i hope we will see the blackout ....that song was made to shake a stadium....
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: scott7 on November 03, 2019, 01:18:07 PM
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Gonna be the same soup more or less as TJT 2017 with maybe a few songs subbed in as the tour goes along. I expect AIWIY and maybe some other Rattle and Hum material being the 30th anniversary of Lovetown. Not sure if SBS will open but I do expect them to lead into TJT with pre TJT material and after TJT, a mix of post TJT. One U2 fan friend thinks ASOH will open the show. That'd be amazing but doubt it. I'll see them in GA in Sydney both shows. And, I think Seoul will turn out to be the final U2 show ever.

If ASOH opens the show I will be so gutted I didn't push the boat out money wise and go.....

I've been there too on last shows - I'm less certain now but i do think there will be a long break after this.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on November 03, 2019, 08:17:07 PM
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according to u2songs.com, it seems they are going down the ie/ei, jt +famous deep cut route which is logical given that side of the world didn't get to experience the innocence ( and experience) era

don't see what's so "logical" about this approach...  you really think that people in India are clamouring to hear 'Alex Descends Into Hell For a Bottle of Milk/Korova 1'?...  no, they want to hear songs that they recognize...  the band dropped all tunes from 'The Joshua Tree' album for the last tour and expect them to do the same for this tour with the last two albums...  that would be "logical"...
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i hope we will see the blackout ....that song was made to shake a stadium....

'The Blackout' sounds more to me like it was made to be played in clubs, and going by the last tour I think that it wouldn't sound good at all in a stadium setting...  Bono's vocals relied heavily on singing along to a pre-recorded vocal track which would make life a little bit more difficult in stadiums, it would sound muddy as hell...  if the goal is "to shake a stadium" then stick with what worked before...  the 'i+e/e+i' era is finished and probably went on too long as it is...  are they supposed to have a third drumset (Larry uses a different set up on 'The Blackout') just so a small minority might want to hear it in a stadium?...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: touringband on November 04, 2019, 07:33:39 AM
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'The Blackout' sounds more to me like it was made to be played in clubs

Any U2 song can be played in a stadium. Its the band that gives the presence to the song.  Hence U2 are a stadium act.  I would also love to hear Blackout in a stadium because it was my fav song from the last tour.

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'are they supposed to have a third drumset (Larry uses a different set up on 'The Blackout')

Im the sure the mega rock act of U2 can work out a drum kit issue if that is all that is holding them out from playing a song.  But regardless, they havent come close to rehearsing it so it wont be in the setlist it seems.

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the 'i+e/e+i' era is finished

U2 didnt get your memo, they have rehearsed Every Breaking wave, THe Miracle, Youre the best thing about me, and Love is Bigger.  Great to see them in there.
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on November 04, 2019, 11:52:51 AM
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U2 didnt get your memo, they have rehearsed Every Breaking wave, THe Miracle, Youre the best thing about me, and Love is Bigger.  Great to see them in there.
do you have a source for this information?...  apparently I didn't get the memo either...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on November 04, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
Its logical that they would include at least some mateiral from the ie/ei era on this tour given none of these countries got to hear these songs live as they are not north america or western europe.. Famous deep cuts are the 4 song intro segment that they played to rocking effect as in 2017 ( sunday bloody sunday, new years day, bad, pride/a sort of homecoming ).

As interesting and left field 'Alex Descends Into Hell For a Bottle of Milk/Korova 1' is , I don't think it falls under the category of famous deep cuts..( though imagine, out of the blue, the band drop a deep cut, no fan in a million years think they would ever perform live.........perhaps they could dog a get on your boots/big girls are best medley ? )

They are missing a trick with the Blackout. Just imagine, 8.30pm in Auckland, Friday night. its dark, the moon is out. Stage lights are out, and they give the same intro as last year as a presentation to this tour.  It could be seriously impressive but i guess thematically it just wouldn't fit as this is by and large a retropsective tour. Maybe if e/i hit stadiums ( which apparently was a possibility ), it would have worked as an intro.

Also worth remembering this is a band that once sang ' you glorify the past, when the future dries up'. They pride themselves on playing new material and not relying heavily on former glories so I expect to hear a rotating collection of innocence and experience songs on this tour ( i.e maybe 2-3 songs per gig )



Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Blueyedboy on November 04, 2019, 07:05:11 PM
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Also worth remembering this is a band that once sang ' you glorify the past, when the future dries up'. They pride themselves on playing new material and not relying heavily on former glories so I expect to hear a rotating collection of innocence and experience songs on this tour ( i.e maybe 2-3 songs per gig )

They are literally touring an album that is 32.5 years old.  ;)

I hope we get a good mix of the original TJT2017  and Innocence/Experience set lists (with Acrobat and Dirty Day thrown in for good measure).
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: habib2343 on November 05, 2019, 03:44:31 AM
Yes I know this but i hope we will see at least one brand new song which hints at their future direction...i doubt we will hear cuts like acrobat or dirty day, but a smattering of innocence and experience songs here and there..
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on November 06, 2019, 03:30:18 PM
the only full run through listed so far from Monday Evening's rehearsal:

 •“The Whole Of The Moon” (Intro song by The Waterboys)
•“Sunday Bloody Sunday”
•“New Year’s Day”
•“Bad” / “America” (snippet)
•“Pride (In The Name Of Love)”
•“Where The Streets Have No Name”
•“I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”
•“With Or Without You”
•“Bullet The Blue Sky”
•“Running To Stand Still”
•“Red Hill Mining Town”
•“In God’s Country”
•“Trip Through Your Wires”
•“One Tree Hill”
•“Exit” / “Wise Blood” (snippet) / “Eeny Meeny Miny Moe” (snippet)
•“Mothers Of The Disappeared”
•“Angel of Harlem”
•“Elevation”
•“Vertigo”
•“Even Better Than The Real Thing”
•“Every Breaking Wave”
•“Beautiful Day”
•“Ultraviolet (Light My Way)”
•“Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way”

not a whole lotta surprises really...  'Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way' works well as a closer where the audience is likely to participate in the chant as the show ends...  it's also not clear whether 'Every Breaking Wave' features the whole band or not...  surprised a little, as stated earlier here, that 'One' appears to have been dropped while 'Ultraviolet (Light My Way)' is retained...  no word on whether 'A Sort of Homecoming' has been rehearsed but it's likely been discarded in favour of 'Bad' which is consistent with the latter half of the 2017 tour...  The Waterboys' tune continues to open the proceedings but I personally preferred The Pogues' 'A Rainy Night in SOHO'...  I'm very happy (and jealous!) that the Southern Hemisphere gets to experience what so many others enjoyed in 2017...  you're all in for a real treat...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Pouakai on November 08, 2019, 06:57:54 PM
I finally got to go to my first U2 concert (9 years is a big gap!) and can fill in some of the gaps here:

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not a whole lotta surprises really...  'Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way' works well as a closer where the audience is likely to participate in the chant as the show ends...
It definitely worked well where it was, not quite the closer but the audience was pretty into it, moreso than they were with some of the earlier songs (kiwi crowds are generally pretty subdued).

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it's also not clear whether 'Every Breaking Wave' features the whole band or not...
It does, but not for the whole song. It starts out with just Edge accompanying Bono on piano, then when it gets into the "the sea knows where all the rocks are" bit Adam and Larry come in for a full band finish.

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surprised a little, as stated earlier here, that 'One' appears to have been dropped while 'Ultraviolet (Light My Way)' is retained...
One was still there, they closed out the show with it as a tribute to the victims of the mosque shooting earlier in the year here. They had the names of the victims come up one by one on the screen and closed it out with the "No them, there's only us" refrain, which definitely got me.

Also I really enjoyed Ultraviolet, it's one of my favourites and it's cool to see it in person
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Billy Rhythm on November 14, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
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it's also not clear whether 'Every Breaking Wave' features the whole band or not...
It does, but not for the whole song. It starts out with just Edge accompanying Bono on piano, then when it gets into the "the sea knows where all the rocks are" bit Adam and Larry come in for a full band finish.

yeah...  finally heard a recording of it and it doesn't really improve on what they've all ready done for past performances...  it exposes the song for what it really is, and that is (in my opinion) that it's a great record but not a great song...  they should drop this one from the set and replace it with something else...  it sticks out like a sore thumb when you listen to the whole show...:-)
Title: Re: setlists for Nov tour
Post by: Boba Fett on November 19, 2019, 02:00:31 PM
Wow - Bad dropped for the Adelaide show last night! I wonder why? @U2's setlist recap isn't quite accurate when they say Bad was replaced by I Will Follow - the previous show had both in.