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Community Center => New Member Introductions => Topic started by: Kevplunkett on August 10, 2019, 10:38:23 AM

Title: Hello from a new member.
Post by: Kevplunkett on August 10, 2019, 10:38:23 AM
Hello and thank you. I just wanted to say Hello to everyone and thank the kind people who manage this page. My name is Kevin and I am from Philadelphia but live in California now. I have listened to U2 since I was seventeen (many years ago now:). My favorite records of the band are their first four records and in particular 'October' and 'The Unforgettable Fire' (although I first bought and loved 'War and soon thereafter very much appreciated 'Boy' as well.)
I would like to discuss the older music of U2 and in particular the influence of Dublin and Ireland in general as well as their youth and experience of life growing up in Dublin. Thank you for reading and thank everyone once again.

Title: Re: Hello from a new member.
Post by: 73October on August 20, 2019, 07:03:11 AM
Thanks Kevin
I'm really interested in the early life of the band and growing up in Dublin.  I'm really glad they addressed that from a reflective point of view on SOI.  I think it seemed to paint a pretty good picture of what Dublin in the 1960's/70's was like.
I grew up over the Irish Sea, just outside Liverpool in the 70's and 80's. So was aware of how important The Beatles were to the local culture and history.  Beatles tourism became popular as I was growing up. 
My parents grew up in Liverpool and I used to love our tours around South Liverpool stopping at all the places that were significant to my parents when they grew up - homes, schools, workplaces, churches, parks etc - on the way to visit the family grave in the local cemetery at certain times of the year.
My parents didn't know The Beatles but one uncle was 3 years older that Paul McCartney at school and his sister (my aunt) got to know his brother (Mike McCartney of The Scaffold), so I'm told.

So the whole Dublin/U2 thing does to me what The Beatles/Liverpool thing does to so many.  I moved away and have now moved back to the general area.  People around here say that Dublin is like Liverpool.  It is, they're right.  A few around here don't like Dublin because of that.  I love Dublin because of that.
The drugs problem (heroin) in Dublin in the 70's and 80's seems very much like what it was in Liverpool and surrounding areas at the same time.  Some of the issues were the same.  Lower level sectarianism.  The whole thing U2 rebelled against - leaving school and trying to get an honest wage because unemployment was the only alternative was also pretty much the way that young men were pushed toward in the general Liverpool area.  University was only for the social and economic elite or the liberally minded families.
Title: Re: Hello from a new member.
Post by: Kevplunkett on August 21, 2019, 09:40:41 AM
Thank you  very much for your very interesting and detailed note about your life and growing up in the Liverpool area. I have always wanted to visit Liverpool although I have only been to London but have been to Wales and Scotland one time each. I was just recently advised to listen to 'Songs of Innocence' and I have listened to just a few songs so far but I will listen to the whole album: Thank you very much for your note on the record. I can imagine that living in Liverpool with the history of the Beatles would be wonderful and somewhat akin to Dublin and U2 in addition to the social and economic conditions there when you were growing up. I visited Glasgow in 1990 and I loved it there and I think that it also had many of the same or similar difficulties and hardships as Liverpool and Dublin during that period in time. It is funny because I just began reading about and listening to the music of Julian Lennon and I did not realize that he has been writing children's books and that he worked together with Paul Buchanan of The Blue Nile on a song together. (I have always loved The Blue Nile.) One thing about 'October' in particular and why I have associations with that record it that I remember listening to it on cassette in my father's old bedroom of his childhood home in Mayfair, a working-class neighborhood in Philadelphia, and I think the songs conjured up working class Dublin and its own rowhomes and life there when the band were young. When I visited Dublin last and went to Glasnevin cemetery in North Dublin I imagined that the band may have lived in or near to that neighborhood (although I am not certain that is accurate. :) Thank you very much for all of your writing and for taking the time to discuss this part of the history of the band and have a peaceful day. Kevin.