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Title: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: Pouakai on November 21, 2019, 10:43:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pViBObCQEuA

Seems to be a follow up from an instagram post of theirs, inspired by Gandhi. I'm not sure what to make of it yet, it's completely out of the blue and not really like anything they've done before
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Post by: jc619er on November 21, 2019, 12:27:08 PM
Damn it already got taken down. Hopefully it reappears somewhere soon.
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Post by: idumea on November 21, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
http://sombrasearvoresaltas.blogspot.com/2019/11/audio-ahimsa-nova-cancao-do-u2-em.html?m=1
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Post by: Blueyedboy on November 21, 2019, 02:25:58 PM
This appeared on my Release Radar playlist this morning. Pretty run of the mill stuff. All good.
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Post by: mc on November 21, 2019, 02:33:35 PM
Terrible
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Post by: Number1U2fan on November 21, 2019, 03:40:29 PM
Bono's vocals in it are decent. Song ehhh...And I'll go out on limb saying this is no where near the direction they are going or what the new album will be like.....then again lets hope not!
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Post by: pan360 on November 21, 2019, 04:07:57 PM
I like the ethnic touch in the song with the female voices. I believe this is an one off marketing trick connected with the concert in India. Not a bad idea. And the title is a powerful word.
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Post by: miryclay on November 21, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
https://streamable.com/ujz9o
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Post by: MASTER YODA on November 21, 2019, 07:13:25 PM
Sounds like a Christian radio song lol...I'm not passing any judgment
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Post by: U2alwaysforever on November 21, 2019, 08:37:16 PM
This one came out of the blue for.sure
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Post by: AchtungPop on November 21, 2019, 10:33:06 PM

It's up on streaming services now.
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Post by: singnomore on November 22, 2019, 03:43:42 AM
Hmmmm......
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Post by: Johnny Feathers on November 22, 2019, 04:16:52 PM
Saw it on iTunes and thought I’d pick it up...then I listened to the sample.

I really liked Invisible, and still do, but I’m starting to wonder if that track signaled a change that may eventually lead to me losing interest in them.


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Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: singnomore on November 22, 2019, 07:14:04 PM
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Saw it on iTunes and thought I’d pick it up...then I listened to the sample.

I really liked Invisible, and still do, but I’m starting to wonder if that track signaled a change that may eventually lead to me losing interest in them.


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Invisible really came to life live as well - this track..well.....
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Post by: wlomaco on November 22, 2019, 09:20:12 PM
I rather like it.  I mean it's not fireworks for me, but I have to say Bono sounds very good, and just hearing that beautiful soulful voice during these crappy times felt like a respite to me today. Pointed out to me how much that voice and U2's message has meant to me over the years.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pViBObCQEuA

Seems to be a follow up from an instagram post of theirs, inspired by Gandhi. I'm not sure what to make of it yet, it's completely out of the blue and not really like anything they've done before
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: Rasmus on November 23, 2019, 09:23:00 AM
Very bland and boring. The worst qualities of post-2000 U2 are on display here. The ethnic touch does not save it.
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: goldtoad on November 23, 2019, 11:23:01 AM
I agree that this for the most part a bland song.  They really do need to find a way to change things up on their next album.  After the last three albums, they need an Achtung Baby type re-invention of their sound.  I do like the idea of U2 finding inspiration in the music of other cultures.  That seemed to be the idea behind NLOTH, but they didn't follow thru on it. 
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Post by: Tortuga on November 23, 2019, 05:17:39 PM
Snoozefest.  I think we need a new term for this coldplay inspired style....Sleeprock maybe.


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Post by: ToRontoRon on November 23, 2019, 11:22:52 PM
I really like it.  A new flavour for the band, which I like.  It’s just a very tranquil song.  I especially like the Indian girls sections at the beginning and end of the song.

It’s also extremely relistenable.  I’ve lost track of how many times I‘ve listened to it in the last two days, but I think I might be fluent in Tamil by now.
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: pan360 on November 24, 2019, 01:36:09 AM
I have also listened to it many times. If Songs of Ascent sees the light of day I imagine it tranquil as White as Snow, spiritual as MOS, poetic as One Tree Hill and with an ethnic touch like Ahimsa (in some songs)
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Post by: Quack on November 24, 2019, 01:41:59 AM
Well, at least they used to be a great band and that's more than most bands can say.
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Post by: JaraSangASongAWeapon on November 24, 2019, 04:18:14 AM
Song is garbage even Coldplay would reject for sounding too much like Coldplay.
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: Vox on November 24, 2019, 07:38:15 PM
Meh, listed to it a couple of times a couple of days ago and haven’t had a crazy urge to hear it again.  Not a horrible song, but not the sort of U2 music I tend to gravitate towards.  Interestingly, the girls singing is the part that sorta bugged me, but I see a poster above liked it, so it’s all good - different strokes and all that. 
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Post by: 73October on November 28, 2019, 08:23:19 AM
it's grown on me.  I like it.  It's very spiritual and meditative.  There's a school of thought called 'interfaith dialogue' and I covered it on my Uni Religious Studies course.  It might seem like a 'U2 coming to India marketing ploy', and to an extent - it is.  What it also is - is a dialogue between the Western Abrahamic faiths and the Eastern 'deity' spiritualities.  Specifically Christian (U2 - Bono in particular) and Islam (AR Rahman) and Hindu, Sikh and Jain Indian cultural beliefs.
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Post by: goldtoad on November 28, 2019, 01:01:32 PM
It does sound like it belongs on the latest Coldplay album.  If it is just a one-off song, it is OK.  However, if this is the direction of their next album, that would be bad news.  All artists including U2 are inspired by other artists, but U2 are at their best when they turn that inspiration into their own brand of music. 
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Post by: mattressjedi on November 28, 2019, 06:05:18 PM
While I can understand them wanting to collaborate with artists form another country, this song just sounds as flat and dull as their last two albums(although those albums had a few exceptional tracks).
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: Drumheller on November 29, 2019, 02:27:47 PM
Just had a chance to listen to it. 

"I'll meet you before the world was born"  I love the lyrics, I love the song. 
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Post by: Luzita on December 01, 2019, 09:04:53 AM
Pretty decent song. Slow and meditative, which is not usually my favorite, but Bono does sound great.


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Post by: BlueSquirrel on December 01, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
Clearly a song written for the Indian fans during the Tour. I like the vocals, but I'm not too keen on the melody (too Coldplayish for my taste). There are a couple of Coldplay songs that I appreciate, but I prefer it when they're played by Coldplay themselves rather than U2.
I expect something else from U2...
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Post by: garyu2 on December 03, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
U2 knocked this out in a 20min Skype call.
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Post by: blovesu2 on December 03, 2019, 04:06:19 PM
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U2 knocked this out in a 20min Skype call.

Ha! I think you NAILED it there! Well said.
Upon first listen I thought it was "nice", but since then I've come to realize it really is awful. I mean, the non-U2 "choir" is nice but in regards to a U2 creation this is awful. Even Coldplay could make something like this a bit "meatier"
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Post by: Luzita on December 03, 2019, 04:30:53 PM
I’ve listened to it a few more times and it’s growing on me. The simplicity and calm are well aligned with the subject.


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Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: Tortuga on December 03, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
I think its the lyrics that really are the thing that are diminishing my appreciation of U2’s recent work.  They are just so simple and cliche.
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Post by: ian ryan on December 04, 2019, 12:09:26 AM
It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically. 
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Post by: Tortuga on December 04, 2019, 05:16:43 AM
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It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically.

Okay, but if that’s the case, why does it sound exactly like the kind of cliche song Coldplay would produce for its Western audience and nothing like Indian music?  The female voices are not unlike the decorative treatments Peter Gabriel and other western artists have been doing for decades.


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Post by: 73October on December 04, 2019, 05:38:38 AM
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It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically.



Okay, but if that’s the case, why does it sound exactly like the kind of cliche song Coldplay would produce for its Western audience and nothing like Indian music?  The female voices are not unlike the decorative treatments Peter Gabriel and other western artists have been doing for decades.


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I think this is U2 heading into World Music territory. Some of us Westerners might not like it.
Following the tour (and the last few tours), I can see people turning their backs on the band.  Lots of complaints about blandness and also the politicism. U2 have always been political, but not popularist. So, as popularism invades the West people slag off U2.
I'm a globalist. It must be the U2 influence. So I welcome this direction U2 are taking - they are reaching out to places where there's a following, but they've not played. Asia specially.
I'm hoping the shows in South Korea, Philippines and India go as well as the ones in Singapore went.
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Post by: Tortuga on December 04, 2019, 06:31:32 AM
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It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically.



Okay, but if that’s the case, why does it sound exactly like the kind of cliche song Coldplay would produce for its Western audience and nothing like Indian music?  The female voices are not unlike the decorative treatments Peter Gabriel and other western artists have been doing for decades.


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I think this is U2 heading into World Music territory. Some of us Westerners might not like it.
Following the tour (and the last few tours), I can see people turning their backs on the band.  Lots of complaints about blandness and also the politicism. U2 have always been political, but not popularist. So, as popularism invades the West people slag off U2.
I'm a globalist. It must be the U2 influence. So I welcome this direction U2 are taking - they are reaching out to places where there's a following, but they've not played. Asia specially.
I'm hoping the shows in South Korea, Philippines and India go as well as the ones in Singapore went.

I realize I’m repeating myself here but do you really think that song sounds like “World Music”?  I listen to a wide range of music and LOVE it when U2 goes off the beaten path.  What they have been doing the last few years is going mainstream pop. Which is why I am finding their recent music boring.

Throwing some choir voices on top of a very western song doesn’t make it World Music.  There are no Indian instruments or eastern scales or arrangements.  The lyrics are bland new age spiritual blah blah.  Its not like they are specifically related to Hinduism or Sikh or any other major Indian religion.  Just the usual 21st century watered down U2 lyrics.  Whatever happened to lyrics like SHFWILF or Wake up Deadman?

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Post by: blovesu2 on December 04, 2019, 09:07:43 AM
  Just the usual 21st century watered down U2 lyrics.  Whatever happened to lyrics like SHFWILF or Wake up Deadman?
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Hear, hear!
Title: Re: NEW SONG - U2 release Ahisma with A.R. Rahman
Post by: pan360 on December 04, 2019, 12:01:43 PM
I believe it went to No 1 in India not so much because of U2 but because of A.R. Rahman as he is very popular there. So, the goal of advertisement in India has been achieved for U2. Even though the song does not have Indian instruments or eastern scales it can be categorized as world music just because of the female voices and the refrain. If you listen to other music by A.R. Rahman, you will notice that his influence is quite obvious in the use of the piano and the mood of the song. By no means an experimental song but a decent world pop song. I don’t think U2 are becoming a world music band but I reckon more collaborations with popular world music artists in the future.
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Post by: cocamojoe on December 04, 2019, 10:03:44 PM
The song is totally bland, blasé drivel. I get it, they wanted to do something special for India, being the first time that they’ll have ever played there; but, why not a new song also for Singapore, South Korea, and the Philippines?

Regardless, this song is laughably bad. Seriously, they’re touring their Joshua Tree album, which many take to be their magnum opus (it’s my second favorite of their canon, as I think that Achtung Baby topped JT), and this is the new song? Seriously, listen to ANY song from JT and try and tell me this new song is ontologically good.
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Post by: Bundang Dave on December 05, 2019, 06:53:12 AM
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Regardless, this song is laughably bad. Seriously, they’re touring their Joshua Tree album, which many take to be their magnum opus (it’s my second favorite of their canon, as I think that Achtung Baby topped JT), and this is the new song? Seriously, listen to ANY song from JT and try and tell me this new song is ontologically good.

I just listened to Trip Through Your Wires, and I'm telling you that Ahimsa is ontologically good.


J/K, actually neither song is my cup of tea.
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Post by: mattressjedi on December 07, 2019, 05:02:33 PM
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Regardless, this song is laughably bad. Seriously, they’re touring their Joshua Tree album, which many take to be their magnum opus (it’s my second favorite of their canon, as I think that Achtung Baby topped JT), and this is the new song? Seriously, listen to ANY song from JT and try and tell me this new song is ontologically good.

I just listened to Trip Through Your Wires, and I'm telling you that Ahimsa is ontologically good.


J/K, actually neither song is my cup of tea.

Even band needs a fun, throwaway, drinking song. ITTYW is that song for U2. It's also a rare fun song for them. Ahimsa just makes me want to drink.
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Post by: ian ryan on December 10, 2019, 08:32:40 PM
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It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically.

Okay, but if that’s the case, why does it sound exactly like the kind of cliche song Coldplay would produce for its Western audience and nothing like Indian music?  The female voices are not unlike the decorative treatments Peter Gabriel and other western artists have been doing for decades.


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Oh, I've listened to the new Coldplay album. It's nowhere near as good as Ahimsa. Seriously, I had to stop listening after a few songs. 

But even regarding Coldplay as an easy target, I genuinely don't know what works in India. It's not my culture, and I'm not going to make any declarations about what may appeal to it or not. I don't know what a nation of 1.3 billion human beings values in popular art, if it's even possible to describe that many people as a homogeneous culture. But that's the audience the song was released for, and it's doing quite well. Not every U2 song has to be for North Americans and Western Europeans.
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Post by: Tortuga on December 11, 2019, 05:37:07 AM
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It's a chill enough song, and it got to #1 on the India iTunes chart, so it may just not be for the standard western U2 audience as much. I'm all for them working with new people and do a better job of appealing to cultures outside of those they've had the most success with historically.

Okay, but if that’s the case, why does it sound exactly like the kind of cliche song Coldplay would produce for its Western audience and nothing like Indian music?  The female voices are not unlike the decorative treatments Peter Gabriel and other western artists have been doing for decades.


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Oh, I've listened to the new Coldplay album. It's nowhere near as good as Ahimsa. Seriously, I had to stop listening after a few songs. 

But even regarding Coldplay as an easy target, I genuinely don't know what works in India. It's not my culture, and I'm not going to make any declarations about what may appeal to it or not. I don't know what a nation of 1.3 billion human beings values in popular art, if it's even possible to describe that many people as a homogeneous culture. But that's the audience the song was released for, and it's doing quite well. Not every U2 song has to be for North Americans and Western Europeans.

My point was not to compare the quality of this song to the quality of the latest Coldplay music.  My point was that this song has an arrangement and sound very similar to that typical of Coldplay in general, and consequently, that I find it boring because its been done to death by U2, Coldplay, and every praise and worship band in the US.  Its time to dream up something new.  I know some are seeing this as “world” music because it was done with an Indian musician but I hear about 90% typical U2.  That of course, is subjective.

As to what may or may not appeal to the Indian market I have no idea.  I was only commenting on how it appeals to me.  But to reflect on your comments on India, mine are that India is culturally distinct from Europe and the Americas, and U2 is more part of the European and North American culture.  So it doesn’t surprise me that when a pop superstar from outside India partners up with an Indian musician, it is novel and interesting to the people of India and an easy  “win” in that country regardless of the quality of the song or how appealing it is from a uniquely Indian perspective.

Of course not every song U2 releases has to be for the Western market.  But given how similar this song sounds to much of what U2 has done in the past and how similar it sounds in general to things Coldplay has created, and how “western” it sounds, I kind of doubt that my problem with it is that it sounds unfamiliar to my Western ears.
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Post by: Izzy on December 12, 2019, 05:57:25 AM
Ian just curious, did you hear the full Coldplay or the first half they released early? I heard the half, and was also pretty underwhelmed. Just revisited the full release and there’s a few pretty good songs, pleasant nothing earth shattering imho.

Trying now to digest the Eternal Remixes.....
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Post by: Dali on December 15, 2019, 11:36:15 AM
This song came so totally out of the blue. Is there anywhere I can find it on CD in all its lossless glory? So far, I haven't found a CD version of it.
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Post by: pan360 on December 15, 2019, 12:51:38 PM
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This song came so totally out of the blue. Is there anywhere I can find it on CD in all its lossless glory? So far, I haven't found a CD version of it.
You will probably need to wait for AR Rahman's next Best Of for a CD version. The new remix sounds OK but again no Indian instruments.
https://youtu.be/4YUw0BN2yIM
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Post by: Panama Jack on December 22, 2019, 10:59:50 PM
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This song came so totally out of the blue. Is there anywhere I can find it on CD in all its lossless glory? So far, I haven't found a CD version of it.

I don't know about a CD, but these download vendors have it in lossless and hi-res:

Qobuz:
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/ahimsa-u2-a-r-rahman/bp02d1ldj3dla

7digital:
https://us.7digital.com/artist/u2/release/ahimsa-10605606?f=10605607

ProStudioMasters:
https://www.prostudiomasters.com/search?cs=1&q=u2#quickview/album/48745

I assume others have it as well
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Post by: Dali on December 28, 2019, 02:08:20 PM
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This song came so totally out of the blue. Is there anywhere I can find it on CD in all its lossless glory? So far, I haven't found a CD version of it.

I don't know about a CD, but these download vendors have it in lossless and hi-res:

Qobuz:
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/ahimsa-u2-a-r-rahman/bp02d1ldj3dla

7digital:
https://us.7digital.com/artist/u2/release/ahimsa-10605606?f=10605607

ProStudioMasters:
https://www.prostudiomasters.com/search?cs=1&q=u2#quickview/album/48745

I assume others have it as well

Lossless will do it for me. Thank you. I'm going to check these out and see what I can find.