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Title: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 01:30:17 PM

I was listening to the new album today and was loving Magnificent, Moment etc etc.

Then GOYB came on - I honestly think (and this includes some of ATYCLB and HTDAAB) that GOYB is the worst song U2 have ever made.

It's text book 'big single' stuff but with some of the worst lyrics I've heard from anyone - ever. Musically, it's trying the punk stuff that Vertigo pulled off way better.

The only bit that works for me is the 'get me in the sound' part - perfectly crafted for stadiums across the globe.

Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: SaintMike on March 16, 2009, 01:31:45 PM
Holy Joe, Miracle Drug, and Grace are all way worse.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 01:31:59 PM
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I was listening to the new album today and was loving Magnificent, Moment etc etc.

Then GOYB came on - I honestly think (and this includes some of ATYCLB and HTDAAB) that GOYB is the worst song U2 have ever made.

It's text book 'big single' stuff but with some of the worst lyrics I've heard from anyone - ever. Musically, it's trying the punk stuff that Vertigo pulled off way better.

The only bit that works for me is the 'get me in the sound' part - perfectly crafted for stadiums across the globe.

Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?

Which question are we answering?    ???
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 01:32:49 PM
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I was listening to the new album today and was loving Magnificent, Moment etc etc.

Then GOYB came on - I honestly think (and this includes some of ATYCLB and HTDAAB) that GOYB is the worst song U2 have ever made.

It's text book 'big single' stuff but with some of the worst lyrics I've heard from anyone - ever. Musically, it's trying the punk stuff that Vertigo pulled off way better.

The only bit that works for me is the 'get me in the sound' part - perfectly crafted for stadiums across the globe.

Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?

Which question are we answering?    ???

Can you think of a worse U2 song than Boots?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Achtung_Habs on March 16, 2009, 01:38:58 PM
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I was listening to the new album today and was loving Magnificent, Moment etc etc.

Then GOYB came on - I honestly think (and this includes some of ATYCLB and HTDAAB) that GOYB is the worst song U2 have ever made.

It's text book 'big single' stuff but with some of the worst lyrics I've heard from anyone - ever. Musically, it's trying the punk stuff that Vertigo pulled off way better.

The only bit that works for me is the 'get me in the sound' part - perfectly crafted for stadiums across the globe.

Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?

Which question are we answering?    ???

Can you think of a worse U2 song than Boots?

Yup

A man and a woman
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: silkenskies on March 16, 2009, 01:41:18 PM
I can think of one on the same album...I'll Go Crazy.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 01:41:58 PM
Oh ok.

Yeah there's plenty.  

The Refugee
Big Girls are Best
Elevation
Elvis Ate America
Yahweh
Paint it Black
Fortunate Son
Numb
With a Shout

just off the top of my head.

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
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Oh ok.

Yeah there's plenty.  

The Refugee
Big Girls are Best
Elevation
Elvis Ate America
Yahweh
Paint it Black
Fortunate Son
Numb
With a Shout

just off the top of my head.



Good point(s) - although I like The Refugee and 'Elvis'...
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
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I can think of one on the same album...I'll Go Crazy.

Isn't 'Unknown Caller' worse?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: eastlink on March 16, 2009, 01:50:52 PM
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I can think of one on the same album...I'll Go Crazy.

Isn't 'Unknown Caller' worse?

Have to agree with both of these, and Boots too.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on March 16, 2009, 01:58:22 PM
it's not a bad song. it's fun, it has a good sound. kind of throwaway but not. I like it...it's sounding better to me. It's fun...I just think we have to loosen up about it. it's not a life-changing kind of song...and it wasn't meant to be.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 02:02:10 PM
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it's not a bad song. it's fun, it has a good sound. kind of throwaway but not. I like it...it's sounding better to me. It's fun...I just think we have to loosen up about it. it's not a life-changing kind of song...and it wasn't meant to be.

The first single from U2 in four plus years.  Many wanted it to change their life.  It is a great throwaway song and fun fun fun! The gravitas that some attach to the event of a new U2 song causes their expectations to be completely skewed.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:05:58 PM
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it's not a bad song. it's fun, it has a good sound. kind of throwaway but not. I like it...it's sounding better to me. It's fun...I just think we have to loosen up about it. it's not a life-changing kind of song...and it wasn't meant to be.

The first single from U2 in four plus years.  Many wanted it to change their life.  It is a great throwaway song and fun fun fun! The gravitas that some attach to the event of a new U2 song causes their expectations to be completely skewed.

It was the big single - so it wasn't meant to be profound.

But, for me, it's so bad that I've now banned it from my NLOTH playlist.

It's 70 percent the lyrics - the rest is standard stuff - in a U2 'big single' kind of way. Saying that though, I love The Fly!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: StrongGirl on March 16, 2009, 02:06:27 PM
Boots is definitely not the worst song ever for U2. It is fun! I will also defend Grace until the day I die!! I feel like I am dead with the amount of times I 've had to stick up for it in this forum! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 16, 2009, 02:07:11 PM
the worst song is numb.  and even that is good
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: silkenskies on March 16, 2009, 02:08:50 PM
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I can think of one on the same album...I'll Go Crazy.

Isn't 'Unknown Caller' worse?

Well I'm one of those rare peeps who don't mind the lyrics in UC, so IMO, no, I'll Go Crazy is worse.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
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the worst song is numb.  and even that is good

Numb is great - and recorded at a fantastic time for U2.

Boots, for me, is dreadful. Change those lyrics Bono - they are terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Achtung Andy on March 16, 2009, 02:14:23 PM
That award should be shared between stand up comedy and window in the skies!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:15:06 PM
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That award should be shared between stand up comedy and window in the skies!

Yes - windows is pretty bad. Although the song they did with Green Day is rubbish too.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 02:20:51 PM
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That award should be shared between stand up comedy and window in the skies!

Yes - windows is pretty bad. Although the song they did with Green Day is rubbish too.

Stuart Adamson wrote it and their version is pretty good.

But Window in the Skies might be the worst.  That's my final vote for worst U2 song. But a great video.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 16, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
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werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released

mmmmmmm, not sure - why U2 would record a single with Green Day is beyond me.

Probably Bono trying to be 'young' and 'cool' - a similar trick he's playing with The Killers.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 16, 2009, 02:24:06 PM
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werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released

mmmmmmm, not sure - why U2 would record a single with Green Day is beyond me.

Probably Bono trying to be 'young' and 'cool' - a similar trick he's playing with The Killers.

I remember reading they were Rubin tracks that they have been working on....thank God they switched
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:25:08 PM
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werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released

mmmmmmm, not sure - why U2 would record a single with Green Day is beyond me.

Probably Bono trying to be 'young' and 'cool' - a similar trick he's playing with The Killers.

I remember reading they were Rubin tracks that they have been working on....thank God they switched

Yes - if that's the best they can come up with. Surprising given Rubins excellent track record...
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 16, 2009, 02:26:06 PM
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werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released

mmmmmmm, not sure - why U2 would record a single with Green Day is beyond me.

Probably Bono trying to be 'young' and 'cool' - a similar trick he's playing with The Killers.

I remember reading they were Rubin tracks that they have been working on....thank God they switched

Yes - if that's the best they can come up with. Surprising given Rubins excellent track record...

maybe they released the bad ones so they could save the best tracks for the album
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 02:27:40 PM
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werent saints are coming and window in the skies Rubin tracks, i heard these were the two they released

mmmmmmm, not sure - why U2 would record a single with Green Day is beyond me.

Probably Bono trying to be 'young' and 'cool' - a similar trick he's playing with The Killers.


I believe a donation to charity was involved with the release of that single as well
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Dream Out Loud on March 16, 2009, 02:29:58 PM
Boots has deeper lyrics (about women) than I think you give it credit.  as for the worst song, not only are you wrong about Boots being the worst, this entire idea needs to be titled, "the A Man and a Woman thread."  easily the worst song they've done (the album version....acoustic was tolerable).

Album version of Miami is a close second.

Unknown Caller is the coolest song on NLOTH.  Great lyrics with a spiritual yet modern-day application.  and it builds in a really cool way.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: u2matters on March 16, 2009, 02:32:35 PM
Boots is not that bad at all. I think Crazy is the weakest from this album.
Worse than Crazy? New York is pretty bad ...
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 02:33:04 PM
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Boots has deeper lyrics (about women) than I think you give it credit.  as for the worst song, not only are you wrong about Boots being the worst, this entire idea needs to be titled, "the A Man and a Woman thread."  easily the worst song they've done (the album version....acoustic was tolerable).

Album version of Miami is a close second.

Unknown Caller is the coolest song on NLOTH.  Great lyrics with a spiritual yet modern-day application.  and it builds in a really cool way.

Ok, deep lyrics - so Bono has worked out after 50 years that 'women are the future' - presumably he didn't think that when Thatcher was 'the future of Britain'

Or perhaps he thought condoleezza rice was the future of the USA. Or Palin anyone?

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: silkenskies on March 16, 2009, 02:38:01 PM
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Boots has deeper lyrics (about women) than I think you give it credit.  as for the worst song, not only are you wrong about Boots being the worst, this entire idea needs to be titled, "the A Man and a Woman thread."  easily the worst song they've done (the album version....acoustic was tolerable).

Album version of Miami is a close second.

Unknown Caller is the coolest song on NLOTH.  Great lyrics with a spiritual yet modern-day application.  and it builds in a really cool way.

Ok, deep lyrics - so Bono has worked out after 50 years that 'women are the future' - presumably he didn't think that when Thatcher was 'the future of Britain'

Or perhaps he thought condoleezza rice was the future of the USA. Or Palin anyone?



yikes, please don't mention her in a U2 thread.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: streetmission on March 16, 2009, 02:53:02 PM
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Oh ok.

Yeah there's plenty.  

The Refugee
Big Girls are Best
Elevation
Elvis Ate America
Yahweh
Paint it Black
Fortunate Son
Numb
With a Shout

just off the top of my head.



I actually really like Boots, so there are a lot worse U2 songs, IMO.  I generally agree with your list, Joe G, except for the two I've put a strike through.  See above. :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Discotheque Girl on March 16, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
I like Boots very much!
I don't know why people hate that song so much!  >:(
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 03:15:47 PM
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Oh ok.

Yeah there's plenty.  

The Refugee
Big Girls are Best
Elevation
Elvis Ate America
Yahweh
Paint it Black
Fortunate Son
Numb
With a Shout

just off the top of my head.



I actually really like Boots, so there are a lot worse U2 songs, IMO.  I generally agree with your list, Joe G, except for the two I've put a strike through.  See above. :)

I think Boots is better than those two, but I probably unfairly grouped them in with songs I think are a lot worse.  I do like both Elevation and Yahweh.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: StrongGirl on March 16, 2009, 03:16:52 PM
Hey Joe, I see you like my non-moderator name! ;) I love how you used it!!! 8)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
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Hey Joe, I see you like my non-moderator name! ;) I love how you used it!!! 8)

I freely acknowledge my influences!!  LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Nagrom99 on March 16, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
I think Boots is one of the standout tracks on an underwhelming album.  So, no.  Stand Up and White as Snow are far worse than Boots.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: ian ryan on March 16, 2009, 03:23:53 PM
I'd say Crazy Tonight is worse than boots, but it's also nowhere near the worst song they've done.  I'd rather listen to boots than almost anything on October.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: 1985 on March 16, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
My seven-year old keeps jumping to it on the CD player, wherever else the album may be at that point. I'd say from highly anecdotal experience that Boots is a big hit in the 3-7 year old age ranges. The three-year old walks around saying "get on your boots hey hey hey hey...get on your boots hey hey hey hey" while playing air guitar.

On the lyrics front, after initial trepidations, I'll give them a pass on this -- assuming we think that we've never been freed of the dark dream...and that it's a description of that dark dream and the urgent desire to escape it. I think the delivery of those lyrics could have been more...original, as has been pointed out ad nauseum.

Not the worst song in my view.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Thunder Peel on March 16, 2009, 03:28:12 PM
I've always liked Boots; it's just a fun, upbeat rocker like Vertigo and Elevation.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Evil Bono on March 16, 2009, 03:36:42 PM
Boots is a much better song than the second half of ATYCLB.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: cedars on March 16, 2009, 03:54:53 PM
This is just another totally subjective Q & A.  I mean, it all boils down to personal likes/dislikes in the end.  Frankly, I dig Boots.  My wife who only listens to U2 because I make her, actually likes the song quite a bit. 

I'll take the bait and suggest that these songs are all substantially weaker than Boots:

Shadows and Tall Trees
I Fall Down
Scarlet
Red Light
Elvis Presley and America
Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
Some Day's Are Better Than Others (er, perhaps for purposes of this thread should be retitled to "Some Songs Are Better Than Others)
Miami
If You Wear That Velvet Dress
Peace On Earth
Wild Honey
Angels To Tied To The Ground

Of course, it's all subjective.  And, it should be noted that "Fortunate Son" & "Paint it Black" are not U2 originals but covers of classic songs.  Thus, not sure they should be included in a "U2 worst song recorded" thread. 




Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
"And, it should be noted that "Fortunate Son" & "Paint it Black" are not U2 originals but covers of classic songs.  Thus, not sure they should be included in a "U2 worst song recorded" thread. "


Completely aware.  But they did record them, regardless of who wrote them.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: cedars on March 16, 2009, 04:09:15 PM
If we are including both U2 originals and covers recorded, than I agree that both "Fortunate Son" and "Paint It Black" are far worse than Boots.

Also, to add to my original list of songs much worse than Boots, let's not forget "Always" and "Summer Rain".  Now, I actually like "Summer Rain", but not nearly as much as I like Boots.  Come to think of it, I usually skip "Miracle Drug." 

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 04:13:28 PM
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If we are including both U2 originals and covers recorded, than I agree that both "Fortunate Son" and "Paint It Black" are far worse than Boots.

Also, to add to my original list of songs much worse than Boots, let's not forget "Always" and "Summer Rain".  Now, I actually like "Summer Rain", but not nearly as much as I like Boots.  Come to think of it, I usually skip "Miracle Drug." 



"Always" morphed into "Beautiful Day" and I am glad it did. Bad lyrics by Mr. B.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: cedars on March 16, 2009, 04:23:47 PM
Always" morphed into "Beautiful Day" and I am glad it did. Bad lyrics by Mr. B.

Agreed.  Not one of his better efforts, lyrically speaking.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: HUNGRYTICKETS on March 16, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 04:52:45 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 16, 2009, 04:53:56 PM
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What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?


Define 'relevant'

The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Pink Floyd etc are all still "relevant", just as the Rolling Stones are relevant to Rolling Stones fans



Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 04:56:08 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?  

Answer *good question. Although I love Radiohead who are still making amazing music - Arcade Fire - who knows, it's all subjective*

What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?

Answer *I like U2 but I would question that they're 'relevant'.*

Appreciate these guys.

Answer *why?*

Happy St Paddy's Day!

Answer *Thanks, but I don't celebrate St Paddys Day*


Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 04:58:06 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.

Do you mean me? I like U2 - I just 'dislike' Boots a lot.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 04:59:43 PM
Boots is nowhere near a bad song.  It's fun, and according to a section of the U2 fan base, U2 isn't allowed to have fun.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 05:01:35 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 05:03:18 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 05:04:25 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

Do you mean me? I like U2 - I just 'dislike' Boots a lot.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 05:06:47 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

Do you mean me? I like U2 - I just 'dislike' Boots a lot.


That's good.  :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: HUNGRYTICKETS on March 16, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
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What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?


Define 'relevant'

The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Pink Floyd etc are all still "relevant", just as the Rolling Stones are relevant to Rolling Stones fans

You ask to Define Relevant, OK:  Relevant as in "They are STILL producing arguably their Best Music".
btw: I Love the Stones but nobody will argue that their recent albums compare to their earlier ones.



Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
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That's good.    :)

Seeing as you're so clever, how about this:

You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their love for U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with joy and passion, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.

I thought this was a forum.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 05:12:12 PM
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That's good.    :)

Seeing as you're so clever, how about this:

You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their love for U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with joy and passion, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.

I thought this was a forum.


I appreciate the imitation.  :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 16, 2009, 05:16:35 PM
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That's good.    :)

Seeing as you're so clever, how about this:

You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their love for U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with joy and passion, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.

I thought this was a forum.


I appreciate the imitation.  :)

Perhaps certain people here should stop moaning about anyone who has anything negative to say about U2 and realise that going on about how marvelous they are and what a fantastic human being Bono is, is equally boring.

Please do come back with something clever though.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: EdgeFest [Zenmaster360] on March 16, 2009, 05:16:48 PM
U2s worst song is better than about 80% of the crap they are playing on the radio these days though, in the end...  ;D
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 05:18:03 PM
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That's good.    :)

Seeing as you're so clever, how about this:

You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their love for U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with joy and passion, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.

I thought this was a forum.


I appreciate the imitation.  :)

Perhaps certain people here should stop moaning about anyone who has anything negative to say about U2 and realise that going on about how marvelous they are and what a fantastic human being Bono is, is equally boring.

Please do come back with something clever though.


Ok.   :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: dentalboy on March 16, 2009, 05:52:48 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 05:57:41 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 16, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

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Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: dentalboy on March 16, 2009, 06:00:13 PM
Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: HUNGRYTICKETS on March 16, 2009, 06:15:09 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

I just asked, 'why come in HERE to talk about "hating" U2?' Craigs List is a more appropriate site to let out the hostility.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

Circle Jerk: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle%20jerk

You're in the wrong place for what you're looking for



[/quote]

Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius

[/quote]

Don't get your panties in a knot.  I was just expressing my opinion, which is part of having an open discussion.  Native, you mean you can tell someones intelligence level from one dissenting post?  No, sir, you must be the genius.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 16, 2009, 06:19:06 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

Circle Jerk: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle%20jerk

You're in the wrong place for what you're looking for




Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius

[/quote]

Don't get your panties in a knot.  I was just expressing my opinion, which is part of having an open discussion.

[/quote]



So you want to use the open discussion forum to express  your disdain for those wanting to have an open discussion.

Got it.


Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 06:29:09 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

Circle Jerk: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle%20jerk

You're in the wrong place for what you're looking for




Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius


Don't get your panties in a knot.  I was just expressing my opinion, which is part of having an open discussion.

[/quote]



So you want to use the open discussion forum to express  your disdain for those wanting to have an open discussion.

Got it.



[/quote]

Wow.  Junior, you should go into politics because you are excellent at twisting words around to get them to mean what you want them to mean.  I was expressing my disagreement with Native's opinion of me being a sycophant and that there's some "cult" operating around here.  I've seen just as many negative posts as I have positive.  I was referring to his opinion, not him personally.  I don't even know him and have no disdain for him.  I understand that none of this is personal, just an open discussion about opinions.

Facetious:  http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facetious
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: ABloodRedSky on March 16, 2009, 06:29:41 PM
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Boots has deeper lyrics (about women) than I think you give it credit.  as for the worst song, not only are you wrong about Boots being the worst, this entire idea needs to be titled, "the A Man and a Woman thread."  easily the worst song they've done (the album version....acoustic was tolerable).

Album version of Miami is a close second.

Unknown Caller is the coolest song on NLOTH.  Great lyrics with a spiritual yet modern-day application.  and it builds in a really cool way.

Awesome, I was starting to feel like I was the only one who really LOVED "Unknown Caller."

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 06:46:18 PM
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Boots has deeper lyrics (about women) than I think you give it credit.  as for the worst song, not only are you wrong about Boots being the worst, this entire idea needs to be titled, "the A Man and a Woman thread."  easily the worst song they've done (the album version....acoustic was tolerable).

Album version of Miami is a close second.

Unknown Caller is the coolest song on NLOTH.  Great lyrics with a spiritual yet modern-day application.  and it builds in a really cool way.

Awesome, I was starting to feel like I was the only one who really LOVED "Unknown Caller."




Unknown Caller is a great song.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 16, 2009, 07:02:07 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

Circle Jerk: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle%20jerk

You're in the wrong place for what you're looking for




Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius


Don't get your panties in a knot.  I was just expressing my opinion, which is part of having an open discussion.




So you want to use the open discussion forum to express  your disdain for those wanting to have an open discussion.

Got it.



[/quote]

Wow.  Junior, you should go into politics because you are excellent at twisting words around to get them to mean what you want them to mean.  I was expressing my disagreement with Native's opinion of me being a sycophant and that there's some "cult" operating around here.  I've seen just as many negative posts as I have positive.  I was referring to his opinion, not him personally.  I don't even know him and have no disdain for him.  I understand that none of this is personal, just an open discussion about opinions.

Facetious  http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facetious
[/quote]


They know that, NOLA.  They just need a response and attention.  They know it has nothing to do with having an open discussion.  It's easy to toss around words like "sycophant" when they are disagreed with.  Sometimes I get the feeling that they are shocked that people disagree with their opinions.  Very rarely do I see someone say "get off this forum". Rather, someone will question them "why do you spend so much time hating U2?" and then the response to that ususally is something along the lines of "It's a forum, it's a free country."  I figured out that it is this particular forum they NEED. They need the conflict, the fights, all that.  I'm sure there are dozens of websites and forums dedicated to how crappy a band U2 are.  But that would be no FUN. I have absolutely no problem identifying music that U2 has done which I think is horrible. I have absolutely no problem debating the merits and drawbacks of one album over another. Just dont disagree with the "Purple Patch Posse".
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: NOLA Fly on March 16, 2009, 07:16:10 PM
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I was nervous when Boots was released weeks before the album. I wasn't crazy for it.
Any U2 music I don't like I just wait patiently because eventually I will come around to liking it.

wow, why come here do discuss what you "hate" about U2?

Let me ask you this:
Who else is out there to get excited about?
What other band in history was still relevant after 30 years?
Appreciate these guys.
Happy St Paddy's Day!




You'll soon identify a certain group of folks on here who specialize in posting their "dislike" about U2.  They do it in a variety of ways, usually carefully couched terms laced with venom, or threads that start off with a leading question, designed to elicit a response.  Sometimes it makes for interesting reading, but mostly its repetitive and boring.


You won't have to look hard.  It becomes evident after a short while.

I concur

Just because we aren't all sycophants in agreat big "U2 Love In" dosen't mean we can't have an opinion. It's not that we hate U2 I happen to love them , we are just not swayed by the cult that operates around here . They're good , have been great but if we think they're going through a purple patch can we not vvoice our opinions as well.

blah, blah, blah, blah

Forum: A public meeting place for open discussion.

Circle Jerk: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle%20jerk

You're in the wrong place for what you're looking for




Very intelligent reply , can tell you're some sort of genius


Don't get your panties in a knot.  I was just expressing my opinion, which is part of having an open discussion.




So you want to use the open discussion forum to express  your disdain for those wanting to have an open discussion.

Got it.




Wow.  Junior, you should go into politics because you are excellent at twisting words around to get them to mean what you want them to mean.  I was expressing my disagreement with Native's opinion of me being a sycophant and that there's some "cult" operating around here.  I've seen just as many negative posts as I have positive.  I was referring to his opinion, not him personally.  I don't even know him and have no disdain for him.  I understand that none of this is personal, just an open discussion about opinions.

Facetious  http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facetious
[/quote]


They know that, NOLA.  They just need a response and attention.  They know it has nothing to do with having an open discussion.  It's easy to toss around words like "sycophant" when they are disagreed with.  Sometimes I get the feeling that they are shocked that people disagree with their opinions.  Very rarely do I see someone say "get off this forum". Rather, someone will question them "why do you spend so much time hating U2?" and then the response to that ususally is something along the lines of "It's a forum, it's a free country."  I figured out that it is this particular forum they NEED. They need the conflict, the fights, all that.  I'm sure there are dozens of websites and forums dedicated to how crappy a band U2 are.  But that would be no FUN. I have absolutely no problem identifying music that U2 has done which I think is horrible. I have absolutely no problem debating the merits and drawbacks of one album over another. Just dont disagree with the "Purple Patch Posse".
[/quote]

Well put, Joe.  Thanks for chiming in.  Good to know you're around.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: eddyjedi on March 16, 2009, 07:25:21 PM
Yes i think boots is, its an irritant, nothing fits together on the song whatsoever and I hate the way it kicks in, it cries out for an intro.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: InThisHeartland on March 16, 2009, 08:15:31 PM
Stupid question. Especially if the person asking has heard "Viva Davidoff" from the Miss Sarajevo single. Listen to that song, then tell me you'd rather have that on the new album instead of boots.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: whitewave on March 16, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
Boots is actually elegant once you take time to think about it.

The worst song is 'Sweetest Thing'-- sorry No Love let's one fall-- God or girl.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: xtrmntr on March 16, 2009, 08:44:46 PM
No, that honor goes to Miracle Drug. 
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jick on March 16, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
Boots is not the worst song by any means.

But ever since U2 hit it big in the mid-80's, Boots would have to be the worst first single ever released.  It just can't make top 40 radio like U2's other previous hits.

Cheers,

J
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Post by: Evil Bono on March 16, 2009, 09:15:13 PM
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Boots is not the worst song by any means.

But ever since U2 hit it big in the mid-80's, Boots would have to be the worst first single ever released.  It just can't make top 40 radio like U2's other previous hits.

Cheers,

J


As much as I have to admit it, Jick you actually made sense.  I like Get On Your Boots but after hearing the album, one would think that maybe it was a mistake to have it as the first single. 
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: TheFlyingLemon on March 17, 2009, 03:09:55 AM
C'mon, Boots isn't that bad, you people just need to learn to have fun.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 17, 2009, 03:24:02 AM
Wow, this has caused some irate messages!

Thanks to you who just passed an opinion on the song and didn't start ranting and raving.

1) I don't like Boots and think it's the worst song U2 have recorded - it's certainly the only one i switch off or skip.

2) I've said I love lots of other U2 songs on this forum - I'll go and see them live too (as I have on every other tour) although i think their stage set this time looks silly.

It's just a balanced view point folks. Or at least my view point.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Jollyroger on March 17, 2009, 05:05:40 AM
Bit rough that song - I have heard worse form them - The whole POP album nearly made me an ex-U2 fan. I chose to gloss over it and never listen to it again.
Achtung baby nearly did it too. But I persavered and hoped one day they come back to the real U2 sound. If they want to experiment relase it as bootlegs. Don't waste my money with trash like POP.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 17, 2009, 06:10:10 AM
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Bit rough that song - I have heard worse form them - The whole POP album nearly made me an ex-U2 fan. I chose to gloss over it and never listen to it again.
Achtung baby nearly did it too. But I persavered and hoped one day they come back to the real U2 sound. If they want to experiment relase it as bootlegs. Don't waste my money with trash like POP.

mmmmmmm, I quite liked POP. At least it was different.

Boots is 'U2's next big single by numbers and with a truly awful lyric'
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: R3dLight [<33s TJ] on March 17, 2009, 06:38:30 AM
i think People are being waaaaaay too hard on this song, i mean this is like a #1 hit in my school right now, no one in high school knew who u2 was and then they made boots and all my friends are like "i love this band" so....i think bono did it for a reason
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: sceptic prophet on March 17, 2009, 08:45:52 AM
"Boots" is the worst 1st single they've ever released, that much I can say. It's however not as bad as I first thought, there are some listenable parts in it... But overall, it's a failed attempt at being cool, a song without any real substance, and not that catchy, at least for a single that is supposed to stir people's attention towards a new album. It also sounds out of place in the album, it disrupts the flow (although it can be said that "Crazy Tonight" is the song that breaks the charm, and "Boots" merely continues the sabotage...).

Anyway, I'm not a fan of both ATYCLB and HTDAAB, so for me there are quite a few songs between them that I would qualify as weak as "Boots". "When Love Comes to Town" is also weaker, musically (although there's some good lyrical lines in it).
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Dream Out Loud on March 17, 2009, 11:27:20 AM
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Bit rough that song - I have heard worse form them - The whole POP album nearly made me an ex-U2 fan. I chose to gloss over it and never listen to it again.
Achtung baby nearly did it too. But I persavered and hoped one day they come back to the real U2 sound. If they want to experiment relase it as bootlegs. Don't waste my money with trash like POP.

I was going to respond to another posting until i got to this one...and I threw up in my mouth a little.  I'll grant you Pop had issues (as i've pointed out numerous times here, even the band has disavowed this album to some degree) but Achtung Baby?  man, you clearly got off the train after Rattle & Hum, huh?  I will admit that the first time I heard The Fly I didn't think it sounded very U2-y but in hindsight, it's an awesome extension of that Joshua Tree sound and VERY MUCH classic U2. 

i still can't believe someone would say that about AB.  wow.

as for my initially intended post, it goes to Jick....

Perhaps you see an absolute correlation between whether a single is good and whether it does well in the charts.  I think we can all agree that a pre-release single is INTENDED to do well in the charts and that if it doesn't do well there, it can be deemed a strategic failure.  But it doesn't mean it is a bad song.  They could release BAD right now and it wouldn't do well on the charts.  but we all know it's their greatest song.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: achtunged333 on March 17, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
There is no doubt .. it is the worst song U2 could have ever come up with..  its a bit of a shame  . . especially when you realize how good the rest of the songs are. .  U2 say that they are trying to win the young crowd and you can't possibly do that with this substandard crap
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 17, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
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Bit rough that song - I have heard worse form them - The whole POP album nearly made me an ex-U2 fan. I chose to gloss over it and never listen to it again.
Achtung baby nearly did it too. But I persavered and hoped one day they come back to the real U2 sound. If they want to experiment relase it as bootlegs. Don't waste my money with trash like POP.

I was going to respond to another posting until i got to this one...and I threw up in my mouth a little.  I'll grant you Pop had issues (as i've pointed out numerous times here, even the band has disavowed this album to some degree) but Achtung Baby?  man, you clearly got off the train after Rattle & Hum, huh?  I will admit that the first time I heard The Fly I didn't think it sounded very U2-y but in hindsight, it's an awesome extension of that Joshua Tree sound and VERY MUCH classic U2. 

i still can't believe someone would say that about AB.  wow.

as for my initially intended post, it goes to Jick....

Perhaps you see an absolute correlation between whether a single is good and whether it does well in the charts.  I think we can all agree that a pre-release single is INTENDED to do well in the charts and that if it doesn't do well there, it can be deemed a strategic failure.  But it doesn't mean it is a bad song.  They could release BAD right now and it wouldn't do well on the charts.  but we all know it's their greatest song.

That's a good point about 'Bad' - one of my favourite songs of all time. Wouldn't get very far as a single but then singles, especially from bands like U2, are heavily contrived:

Will it sound good on the radio?
Is it 3 minutes long?
Has it got a big chorus?
Will it win us any extra fans?

This, for me is the problem with U2 these days - it seems to be about demographics, marketing, strategy (as you pointed out) and, as usual, being the biggest.

What's the point?

U2 are capable of writing work like Bad. I just wish they'd get on with it. Boots is, for me, embarrassing.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: achtunged333 on March 17, 2009, 11:54:31 AM
This, for me is the problem with U2 these days - it seems to be about demographics, marketing, strategy (as you pointed out) and, as usual, being the biggest.

What's the point?

U2 are capable of writing work like Bad. I just wish they'd get on with it. Boots is, for me, embarrassing.


I second that ..
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: B on March 17, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
I am warming, ever so slowly to Boots. (why, is it a classic after all?)

Worst ever has to be Grace or Playboy Mansion ... by far.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: eddyjedi on March 17, 2009, 03:36:23 PM
Playboy mansion is a great song in my eyes with a great melody when bono sings 'when will there be no time for sorrow etc' boots is trash
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: InThisHeartland on March 17, 2009, 05:08:47 PM
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Playboy mansion is a great song in my eyes with a great melody when bono sings 'when will there be no time for sorrow etc' boots is trash


Playboy Mansion is great. The lyrics are amazing!

"Banks are like cathedrals / I guess casinos took their place"

Pop = Last lyrically great U2 album
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: brritscold on March 17, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
Interesting question.

One of the only U2 songs I ever skip is I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. I really don't like it, although obviously it isn't a bad song, and it resonates with many people, it's just not good for me. At all.

U2 song development is interesting. Try this one on...

Elevation -> Vertigo -> Boots. It's a progression between those three songs. (I also dislike Elevation with a passion).

Much in the same way that Mysterious Ways -> Do You Feel Loved and Bullet the Blue Sky -> Love and Peace. There are companion songs throught the U2 canon if you look closely enough.

In some ways, Boots is like a not-as-good Discotheque, which is possibly one of the best 10 songs U2 have ever done, so that is hardly a crime.

For a point of reference, the two U2 albums I have least passion for are Rattle and Hum and ATYCLB, and the most passion for Achtung Baby and Pop (by far the most misunderstood U2 album). Given that, I think the new album is on a par with Pop and is akin to a 21st century reappraisal of The Unforgettable Fire. Even if Crazy does sound a bit like Yahweh crossed with ABBA (listen carefully!).
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JoshuasTree on March 17, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
Off the top of my head Cedars of Lebanon is one to miss. Its just a nowhere song and that weird voice thing,who is that! Truly un-U2esque
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 17, 2009, 07:42:09 PM
Race against time aint that great
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: luieu2 on March 17, 2009, 07:52:20 PM
NO
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 17, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
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Playboy mansion is a great song in my eyes with a great melody when bono sings 'when will there be no time for sorrow etc' boots is trash


Playboy Mansion is great. The lyrics are amazing!

"Banks are like cathedrals / I guess casinos took their place"

Pop = Last lyrically great U2 album

yup. said it a hundred times, i'll say it a hundred more.

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. T on March 17, 2009, 08:02:21 PM
Discotheque is the worst U2 song ever recorded.

Dirty Day isn't far behind it.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: shockdocta22 on March 17, 2009, 08:07:12 PM
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Discotheque is the worst U2 song ever recorded.

Dirty Day isn't far behind it.

NEVER!  the chorus, looking for the... is great

and Boom Chas :o
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: eddyjedi on March 17, 2009, 09:55:03 PM
Discotheque has an amazing riff, its boots all the way its utter tripe as much as i don't want to say it
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Crazy Tonight on March 17, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Boots is a great song. However, I donít think it should have been their number 1 single. As far as bad U2 songs go, I think they are great on their own creative terms, but their covers often make me cringe. For every one good cover song there are 5 bad ones. Their version of "Fortunate Son" is horrible!!! I cant stand it and can never get through the entire song. Their covers of "The Saints Are Coming" and "I Believe In Father Christmas" in recent times are great... maybe their getting better at it  :-\
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JoshuasTree on March 18, 2009, 03:20:55 AM
CrazyTonight,are you saying that Boots is a cover?
I wouldn't know,all I know is for me,after one playing,its the highlight of the album! For U2 thats not good!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Crazy Tonight on March 18, 2009, 03:48:29 AM
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CrazyTonight,are you saying that Boots is a cover?
I wouldn't know,all I know is for me,after one playing,its the highlight of the album! For U2 thats not good!

No JoshuasTree, its not a cover. I was just trying to say that there are a few average cover songs U2 have recorded in the past. Sorry about the confusion. Boots is all U2 and NLOTH features no covers. I think Rattle & Hum is the only "album" to feature covers, all the others [cover songs] are usually b-sides with singles. I actually really like Boots and the new album - just to clear things up
 :)
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Post by: JoshuasTree on March 18, 2009, 03:59:20 AM
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CrazyTonight,are you saying that Boots is a cover?
I wouldn't know,all I know is for me,after one playing,its the highlight of the album! For U2 thats not good!

No JoshuasTree, its not a cover. I was just trying to say that there are a few average cover songs U2 have recorded in the past. Sorry about the confusion. Boots is all U2 and NLOTH features no covers. I think Rattle & Hum is the only "album" to feature covers, all the others [cover songs] are usually b-sides with singles. I actually really like Boots and the new album - just to clear things up
 :)
Ah my fault,I read the post wrong on my phone.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: brendan,belfast on March 18, 2009, 03:59:34 AM
yes. no question.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Yggdrasille on March 18, 2009, 04:13:09 AM
IMO Boots is U2's absolute worst ever choice for the lead-off single, but though to me it's one of the weakest songs on the new album I don't think it's the worst track they've done.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Crazy Tonight on March 18, 2009, 04:14:09 AM
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CrazyTonight,are you saying that Boots is a cover?
I wouldn't know,all I know is for me,after one playing,its the highlight of the album! For U2 thats not good!

No JoshuasTree, its not a cover. I was just trying to say that there are a few average cover songs U2 have recorded in the past. Sorry about the confusion. Boots is all U2 and NLOTH features no covers. I think Rattle & Hum is the only "album" to feature covers, all the others [cover songs] are usually b-sides with singles. I actually really like Boots and the new album - just to clear things up
 :)
Ah my fault,I read the post wrong on my phone.

Haha, no problems dude...
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Lemon-Twist on March 20, 2009, 08:00:06 AM
agree not a big fan of boots but still a decent track
ratings out of 5

no line  :D :D :D :D
magnificent  :D :D :D :D 1/2
moment of  :D :D :D :D
unknown caller  :D :D :D 1/2
crazy :D :D :D :D
GOYB  :D :D :D
Stand up  :D :D :D :D
FEZ  :D :D :D 1/2
White as snow  :D :D :D :D
Breathe  :D :D :D :D :D
cedars  :D :D :D 1/2
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: guitarmart on March 20, 2009, 09:41:17 AM
Here's the deal. Boots is a pretty crappy U2 song with really lame lyrics. But it would be the best Beyonce, Kelly Clarkson, Nickleback, Kid Rock or Daughtry song ever.  :)

-Marty
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jimyjazz on March 20, 2009, 09:56:33 AM
yes.  it is a crime against humanity.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 20, 2009, 09:58:06 AM
Compared to actual crimes against humanity?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jimyjazz on March 20, 2009, 10:46:13 AM
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Compared to actual crimes against humanity?

yes, compared to actual crimes against humanity.  Boots has poisoned millions of ear drums.
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Post by: andyt on March 20, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
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Compared to actual crimes against humanity?

yes, compared to actual crimes against humanity.  Boots has poisoned millions of ear drums.

I agree.
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Post by: joegtheog on March 20, 2009, 10:57:26 AM
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Compared to actual crimes against humanity?

yes, compared to actual crimes against humanity.  Boots has poisoned millions of ear drums.

I agree.

That's hilarious.  But since it's made just as many eardrums happy, then it cancels that out.
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Post by: andyt on March 20, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
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Compared to actual crimes against humanity?

yes, compared to actual crimes against humanity.  Boots has poisoned millions of ear drums.

I agree.

That's hilarious.  But since it's made just as many eardrums happy, then it cancels that out.

Yes. We are so articulate!?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: BigFontane on March 20, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
I still thought Magnificent or Breathe should of be the first single. Ive notice that bands never but there best song out for the first single.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on March 20, 2009, 09:26:26 PM
BOOTS is actually sounding better everyday. It's a darn good tune. It just shouldn't have been the 1st lead single. It was a different time when you could put out "The Fly" as your 1st single...and even then -that song didn't go over so well by the fans as a single.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: MirrorballMoon on March 20, 2009, 09:49:54 PM
All this best and worst stuff drives me nuts.  Just because I happen to like a song (or not like a song) does not mean it is good (or bad).  It just means I like it, that it moves me somehow. 

Stepping off my soapbox. 

No, Boots is not my least-favorite U2 song ever.  Grace earns that award.  But, that doesn't mean it's a bad song.  It just means I don't like it.   :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: TheWaqman on March 20, 2009, 11:37:17 PM
Boots is sh**, I tend to skip it everytime I try to listen to the whole album through.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: imedi on March 21, 2009, 03:11:44 AM
one of the worst mistakes u2 have ever made was to make boots the first single from this album no doubt it affected album sales
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: One Tree Hill on March 21, 2009, 05:42:52 AM
If you think Boots is the worst song that U2 has ever done...just remind your ears of Red light,Wild honey,Grace,Trip through your wires...
I dont rate Boots as the worst or best song...but give it some credit...the groove and guitar riff,tho borrowed is still great..the verse vocals.. as people have said are very Escape club 'Wild wild west'...the rest of it is not great,but by far not the worst.................like the rest of the album.. not especially great(even tho Magnificent is a contender) and not awfully bad........
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Post by: andyt on March 21, 2009, 05:58:50 AM
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If you think Boots is the worst song that U2 has ever done...just remind your ears of Red light,Wild honey,Grace,Trip through your wires...
I dont rate Boots as the worst or best song...but give it some credit...the groove and guitar riff,tho borrowed is still great..the verse vocals.. as people have said are very Escape club 'Wild wild west'...the rest of it is not great,but by far not the worst.................like the rest of the album.. not especially great(even tho Magnificent is a contender) and not awfully bad........

I like Red Light!

If it isn't the worst song they've done, it's the one I will switch off whenever I hear it. Grace would just wash over me and I'd ignore it but Boots I just can't listen too.

It's the lyrics that make me cringe. And Bono's usual self referencing - 'I don't want to talk about wars between nations'. Who gives a toss Bono. If you can write great lyrics like the ones to Moment of Surrender, you don't have to write nonsense like 'I got a submarine, You got gasoline, I donít want to talk about wars between nations'.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: TheFly on March 21, 2009, 08:29:01 AM
Miami gets the worst song vote from me.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: silkenskies on March 21, 2009, 08:42:17 AM
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If you think Boots is the worst song that U2 has ever done...just remind your ears of Red light,Wild honey,Grace,Trip through your wires...
I dont rate Boots as the worst or best song...but give it some credit...the groove and guitar riff,tho borrowed is still great..the verse vocals.. as people have said are very Escape club 'Wild wild west'...the rest of it is not great,but by far not the worst.................like the rest of the album.. not especially great(even tho Magnificent is a contender) and not awfully bad........

wow I would not put Trip Through Your Wires in the bottom tier of songs. Maybe not even Wild Honey, but the others I agree with.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: xtrmntr on March 21, 2009, 09:01:55 AM
I don't mind some of the nonsense lyrics on Boots because I know the song itself is a fast, three minute throwaway song.  My beef with the Boots lyrics is when he does bring up "I don't want to talk about wars between nations".  That part sounds so cheesy and out of place considering that it is a dumb song.  Dumb lyrics for dumb songs=I'm cool with that.  :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jimyjazz on March 21, 2009, 10:16:20 AM
I really like Wild Honey, Grace and Miami.  I don't get all the hate for the first two.  Wild Honey is perfect!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Sue DeNym on March 21, 2009, 05:11:56 PM
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Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?

Several:
Miami
Wild Honey
The First Time
The Playboy Mansion
Some Days Are Better Than Others

To be fair, any band that's been around as long as U2 are going to have the occasional miss to go with their many hits.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 21, 2009, 05:12:34 PM
Stuck in a moment.....

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Ricco on March 21, 2009, 05:41:36 PM
I have read most of this thread and can't believe some of the songs listed as U2's worst songs.

What is wrong with you people?

Tripped through your Wires? (Great song, Bono on the harmonica)
Miracle Drug? (Not their best but memorable and not near the lower rungs of their worst)
Wild Honey? (Great song period, if you saw it live acoustic during Elevation then you would agree.)
Some Days Are Better Than Others?  (Love the clever lyrics)
Elevation? (WTF?)
Unknown Caller?  (this is one of my favorites on NLOTH BTW)

If I have to select eight of their worst songs they would be, (NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS ORDER):

1.  Grace
2.  Miami
3.  A Man And A Woman
4.  One Step Closer
5.  When I look At The World
6.  Do You Feel Loved
7.  If You Wear That Velvet Dress
8.  Babyface

There may be more, but in posting this, I looked all all of the albums from Boy to Rattle and Hum and could find no songs that I really thought ranked up with those above.

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on March 21, 2009, 06:19:29 PM
For all of you who say either Boots, Unknown Caller, Crazy Tonight (my fav off NLOTH), or Numb is the worst song U2 has ever made...YOU ALL ARE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Kenitai on March 21, 2009, 07:12:36 PM
To the OP's original question: It's just a matter of taste and mood.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: MirrorballMoon on March 21, 2009, 07:21:21 PM
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To the OP's original question: It's just a matter of taste and mood.

EXACTLY! 

Liking does not equal "good"
Not liking does not equal "bad"
For that matter, in a few minutes, days, or years you might like a song you now hate, tastes do change sometimes afterall!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: StrongGirl on March 21, 2009, 07:50:42 PM
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I really like Wild Honey, Grace and Miami.  I don't get all the hate for the first two.  Wild Honey is perfect!

Thank you, thank you, thank you jimyjazz! I will be eternally grateful to you for defending those 2 songs. I joined this forum in November and I have been wondering why there is such a hatred for those songs!!   I got tired of defending them so I started to just stay away from those threads.  Oh and for what it's worth-I love to dance to Boots! I have defended this one is an earlier post as well.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on March 22, 2009, 08:50:08 AM
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Elevation? (WTF?)

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.



If you're referring to me with respect to Elevation, I never said I thought it was their owrst song (I don't). I said the lyrics have less meaning than Boots, which they do. Plus why should anyone who dislikes a U2 song that you like "give up their U2 fancard"? That's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on March 22, 2009, 09:04:27 AM
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Elevation? (WTF?)

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.



If you're referring to me with respect to Elevation, I never said I thought it was their owrst song (I don't). I said the lyrics have less meaning than Boots, which they do. Plus why should anyone who dislikes a U2 song that you like "give up their U2 fancard"? That's ridiculous.

NO, already! The song rocks! played the whole album yesterday on a 2 hour drive to NY and back. Loved it!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on March 22, 2009, 12:49:24 PM
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Elevation? (WTF?)

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.



If you're referring to me with respect to Elevation, I never said I thought it was their owrst song (I don't). I said the lyrics have less meaning than Boots, which they do. Plus why should anyone who dislikes a U2 song that you like "give up their U2 fancard"? That's ridiculous.

NO, already! The song rocks! played the whole album yesterday on a 2 hour drive to NY and back. Loved it!

I DO NOT HATE ELEVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




phew!

I really like it, it is indeed a rocking song and makes me feel good to listen to it. But I think the lyrics to Boots are in fact better and make more sense. Elevation is still probably the better song though.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 22, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
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Elevation? (WTF?)

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.



If you're referring to me with respect to Elevation, I never said I thought it was their owrst song (I don't). I said the lyrics have less meaning than Boots, which they do. Plus why should anyone who dislikes a U2 song that you like "give up their U2 fancard"? That's ridiculous.

NO, already! The song rocks! played the whole album yesterday on a 2 hour drive to NY and back. Loved it!

I DO NOT HATE ELEVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




phew!

I really like it, it is indeed a rocking song and makes me feel good to listen to it. But I think the lyrics to Boots are in fact better and make more sense. Elevation is still probably the better song though.


Elevation, Vertigo and Boots are pretty much the same template for a single. Elevation does have fairly ropey lyrics, Vertigo is pretty good but Boots is profoundly bad.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 22, 2009, 03:23:43 PM
Listened to Boots again today.  Just in case anyone was wondering, Larry takes the Bonham beat of "When the Levee Breaks" and adds a killer bass drum run underneath it. Check it out.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 22, 2009, 03:54:24 PM
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Listened to Boots again today.  Just in case anyone was wondering, Larry takes the Bonham beat of "When the Levee Breaks" and adds a killer bass drum run underneath it. Check it out.

He actually doesn't take the Levee groove. the tab loses it's formatting when trying to paste here, but on Levee the 2nd and 4th kicks of the groove are on 1/16th notes, and on Larry's groove (I assume you meant the one at 2.30 ?) it sounds like it's on up beat 8th notes (but I could be wrong)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 22, 2009, 04:03:36 PM
How about this? it sounds similar.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Revolver7 on March 22, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
"When the Levee Breaks" never crossed my mind when I heard Boots
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 22, 2009, 04:08:55 PM
During the "Let me in the Sound" break its hard for me not to draw the comparison. The hihat-snare combo is nearly the same, but the bas drum of Larry is completely different.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: JuniorEmblem on March 22, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
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How about this? it sounds similar.

Well, to some people Jackson Pollock's paintings look like a bunch of aimless squiggly lines, to others they are masterpieces. Yet they are looking at the same thing.

In other words, not similar to me. But they may be to you.



Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 22, 2009, 04:23:46 PM
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How about this? it sounds similar.

Well, to some people Jackson Pollock's paintings look like a bunch of aimless squiggly lines, to others they are masterpieces. Yet they are looking at the same thing.

In other words, not similar to me. But they may be to you.






LOL! I'll accept that as an example.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on March 22, 2009, 05:47:01 PM
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Elevation? (WTF?)

Elevation and Tripped through your Wires?  Whoever suggested those as being worse than Boots should give up their U2 fan card.  Boots is not their best but it is better than the 8 songs I listed above.



If you're referring to me with respect to Elevation, I never said I thought it was their owrst song (I don't). I said the lyrics have less meaning than Boots, which they do. Plus why should anyone who dislikes a U2 song that you like "give up their U2 fancard"? That's ridiculous.

NO, already! The song rocks! played the whole album yesterday on a 2 hour drive to NY and back. Loved it!

I DO NOT HATE ELEVATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




phew!

I really like it, it is indeed a rocking song and makes me feel good to listen to it. But I think the lyrics to Boots are in fact better and make more sense. Elevation is still probably the better song though.


Elevation, Vertigo and Boots are pretty much the same template for a single. Elevation does have fairly ropey lyrics, Vertigo is pretty good but Boots is profoundly bad.

It's sort of a combo of Elevation and Discotheque. Boots is a great song...not every song by U2 has to be a heart wrenching ballad...they can have some fun semi-throwaway numbers as well...they have a diverse catalog.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: StrongGirl on March 22, 2009, 07:08:04 PM
Let me answer this thread.   NO,    NO   NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: suitoflights on March 22, 2009, 08:10:09 PM
I actually like Boots, I think it will be a strong live track.

I think Walk On is their weakest single in recent years.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jick on March 23, 2009, 04:26:23 AM
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I actually like Boots, I think it will be a strong live track.

I think Walk On is their weakest single in recent years.

You are comparing Grammy Record of the Year versus Grammy fiasco performance.

Again, when it comes to hearing and ears - its to each his own.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 23, 2009, 05:38:19 AM
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I actually like Boots, I think it will be a strong live track.

I think Walk On is their weakest single in recent years.

You are comparing Grammy Record of the Year versus Grammy fiasco performance.

Again, when it comes to hearing and ears - its to each his own.

Cheers,

J


Yes, I quite like Walk On.

As far as I can tell, every TV performance of Boots has been awful. With the same choreographed Bono - why he pulls the top of his shirt down during the 'I don't want to talk about wars between nations', I'll never know.

Maginficent is better though.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: hrsan on March 23, 2009, 05:57:11 AM
The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 23, 2009, 08:04:38 AM
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The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NO!!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: silkenskies on March 23, 2009, 08:08:04 AM
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The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NO!!

what andy said.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on March 23, 2009, 08:24:48 AM
He should talk to Jick, they'd get on well. Plus it may mean the rest of us don't have to.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 23, 2009, 08:47:30 AM
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He should talk to Jick, they'd get on well. Plus it may mean the rest of us don't have to.

Yes - Jick and I, being thick, can go and have a conversation by ourselves.

You can continue being clever.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on March 23, 2009, 08:50:29 AM
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He should talk to Jick, they'd get on well. Plus it may mean the rest of us don't have to.

Yes - Jick and I, being thick, can go and have a conversation by ourselves.

You can continue being clever.

You misunderstood me completely - I was talking about the guy dissing Pop, "hrsan".
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 23, 2009, 08:53:13 AM
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He should talk to Jick, they'd get on well. Plus it may mean the rest of us don't have to.

Yes - Jick and I, being thick, can go and have a conversation by ourselves.

You can continue being clever.

You misunderstood me completely - I was talking about the guy dissing Pop, "hrsan".

Then many appologies - I am in a terrible mood today and am taking everything personally!

 :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on March 23, 2009, 08:54:36 AM
No worries!  :D
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: yuval27 on March 23, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
Of course not, not even close, it's mediocre+, it's better live, not even the worst in the album.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Dream Out Loud on March 23, 2009, 12:24:07 PM
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"When the Levee Breaks" never crossed my mind when I heard Boots

of course it isn't.  you're too busy thinking of WTLB every time you hear the exact same drum beat in Miami.  total rip off.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 23, 2009, 12:26:38 PM
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"When the Levee Breaks" never crossed my mind when I heard Boots

of course it isn't.  you're too busy thinking of WTLB every time you hear the exact same drum beat in Miami.  total rip off.

How much did Bonzo's estate get in the settlement? WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA!!!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Dream Out Loud on March 23, 2009, 12:57:21 PM
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"When the Levee Breaks" never crossed my mind when I heard Boots

of course it isn't.  you're too busy thinking of WTLB every time you hear the exact same drum beat in Miami.  total rip off.

How much did Bonzo's estate get in the settlement? WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA!!!

40 shot glasses.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: u2matters on March 24, 2009, 03:44:25 PM
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The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   



Dear God no. No way. Never. Wow. Really? No. No way. Stop it!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 24, 2009, 04:46:22 PM
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The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   



Dear God no. No way. Never. Wow. Really? No. No way. Stop it!

Yes, I'm with you on that. The worst song on NLOTH is quite clearly GOYB.

Is anyone really saying GOYB is better than, say, Mofo? Or Staring at the sun? Or Gone? Or Last Night on Earth?

At least the words to those songs make sense!?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: u2matters on March 29, 2009, 04:03:41 PM
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The worst song on NLOTH is still better than the best song on POP.   



Dear God no. No way. Never. Wow. Really? No. No way. Stop it!

Yes, I'm with you on that. The worst song on NLOTH is quite clearly GOYB.

Is anyone really saying GOYB is better than, say, Mofo? Or Staring at the sun? Or Gone? Or Last Night on Earth?

At least the words to those songs make sense!?



No.No. Please. Understand that I loved Pop - and GOYB is not so bad either. Oh, the confusion!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on March 29, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
http://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,3904.msg136543.html#msg136543
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on March 30, 2009, 03:15:31 AM
Ok, let's put it this way. You may feel Boots has some redeeming features but does anyone actually love it?
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: vertigo5000 on March 30, 2009, 08:20:54 AM
I plan on getting that
'Let me in the sound' shirt for the 360 tour when I go

I love Boots, its the little brother of Vertigo
its such a weird song
"you dont know how beautiful you are"
the lyrics dont make sense even knowing that its about women being in power

I love the energy and the fact that its a proper rock song - a rare U2 thing

Might just miss out on my top 10 though :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: suitoflights on March 30, 2009, 12:57:40 PM
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"When the Levee Breaks" never crossed my mind when I heard Boots

of course it isn't.  you're too busy thinking of WTLB every time you hear the exact same drum beat in Miami.  total rip off.

The song that rips off the WTLB drum intro is In My Place by Coldplaygiarism.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on April 02, 2009, 07:40:54 AM
Boots is a great fun tune. And it manages to sound different enough. Weird that it wasn't an easy tune to like. Perhaps not the best lead off single for an album. But to me it was the Grammys performance that hurt them. Not their performance as a band, but the Sound was horrible and one should never put all their lyrics on a screen unless it's meant to be funny and karaoke. Plus it seemed that we've seen it all before. Oh well..."Magnificent" should be awesome.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: suitoflights on April 02, 2009, 08:31:16 AM
I loved it straight away from the first time I heard it. The riff, the chorus with the harmonies and especially the 'Let Me In The Sound refrain. It's just a fun rock n roll song like Vertigo or Discotheque.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: ThatStutterSound on April 02, 2009, 09:03:36 AM
It's clearly a failure commercially. A leadoff single is supposed to generate interest in the album. Boots had the opposite effect, which is a shame since NLOTH is a strong U2 album.

It's no where NEAR either Vertigo or Discoteque, 2 truly great singles. Both of those pumped up sales of HTDAAB and POP, which are inferior U2 albums.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Boom Cha! on April 02, 2009, 09:05:31 AM
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Ok, let's put it this way. You may feel Boots has some redeeming features but does anyone actually love it?

I love it.

You don't have to hate a song just because it's catchy. Plus, I think it fits in pretty well when listening to the album from start to finish.

Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: j2736 (i'm not a boy ! ) on April 02, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
i didn't like it when i heard the snippet. but i started loving it from the first time i heard it in full.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: hurricane hugo on April 02, 2009, 10:35:25 AM
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I was listening to the new album today and was loving Magnificent, Moment etc etc.

Then GOYB came on - I honestly think (and this includes some of ATYCLB and HTDAAB) that GOYB is the worst song U2 have ever made.

It's text book 'big single' stuff but with some of the worst lyrics I've heard from anyone - ever. Musically, it's trying the punk stuff that Vertigo pulled off way better.

The only bit that works for me is the 'get me in the sound' part - perfectly crafted for stadiums across the globe.

Can anyone think of a worse U2 song?

Trip Through Your Wires

#@!
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: emalvick on April 02, 2009, 12:44:04 PM
I don't think Boots is the worst.... It's a tough song for me to judge, too.

It's tough because I think the lyrics help it and hurt it at the same time.  I really don't care much for the whole "Get on Your Boots" chorus, but the rest of the song isn't too bad.  I do find it catchy, and for my listening,  it seems to stand ahead of Elevation. Heck, Desire, Elevation, Discotheque, and even Vertigo are songs that I liked but got tired of, especially Desire and Elevation.

At the same time, I am also not sure I could choose a worst U2 song.  Grace or Wild Honey may be.  I almost always skip those two, although I also skip Stuck in a Moment and The Sweetest Thing which bugged me after hearing them way too many times and finding their lyrics to be less than stellar.

As for lead singles, I really think No Line on the Horizon would have made the best lead single for this album for what U2 was trying to achieve.  It has a nice tempo, it's easy to sing along to, it has decent lyrics and perhaps more radio appeal for the average music listener.  Of course it isn't the best song on the album, but it definitely works better than Boots.  Breathe is a fantastic song, but I am not sure whether it has the type of appeal that would work for a single.  I suspect though that the appeal will build with that song live.  I can only imagine how great it will end up.

By the way, I think All That You Can't Leave Behind is the only album that I always skip tracks on.  Being a fan of albums, I've pretty much quit listening to that one. No Line so far holds up as a fantastic album for me and I've found items in each song that I really enjoy including Boots. It stands up well with Zooropa, which is my 3rd favorite U2 album (behind AB and JT).  i.e. there are great songs but some could be better.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: jick on April 02, 2009, 05:25:58 PM
Worst song, no.

Worst single, perhaps.

Cheers,

J
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Post by: Anthony02 on April 02, 2009, 06:51:56 PM
Ahh! I have to agree with Jick. Not a great pick for the lead single. But it fits  well in the album. And the worst song has to be Unknown Caller, at least it has the most negative threads. :)
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: perk40 on April 03, 2009, 08:47:54 AM
So I know that I am jumping in late here but I say Elvis ate America is by far the worst song.  Also what "New Day" the song that Bono did with Wyclef Jean a few years ago.  I know that's not an official U2 song but lets all agree that thing is awful.   
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: andyt on April 03, 2009, 09:10:53 AM
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So I know that I am jumping in late here but I say Elvis ate America is by far the worst song.  Also what "New Day" the song that Bono did with Wyclef Jean a few years ago.  I know that's not an official U2 song but lets all agree that thing is awful.   

Man alive, it's the other way round!

Elvis ate America may not be the best song but at least they were trying something different! Boots is cringe worthy,
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on April 03, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
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So I know that I am jumping in late here but I say Elvis ate America is by far the worst song.  Also what "New Day" the song that Bono did with Wyclef Jean a few years ago.  I know that's not an official U2 song but lets all agree that thing is awful.   

Man alive, it's the other way round!

Elvis ate America may not be the best song but at least they were trying something different! Boots is cringe worthy,



Now THAT'S defending a thread!!! 
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: DGordon1 on April 03, 2009, 10:02:15 AM
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So I know that I am jumping in late here but I say Elvis ate America is by far the worst song.  Also what "New Day" the song that Bono did with Wyclef Jean a few years ago.  I know that's not an official U2 song but lets all agree that thing is awful.   

Man alive, it's the other way round!

Elvis ate America may not be the best song but at least they were trying something different! Boots is cringe worthy,

The fact that they were "trying something different" does not stop it from being a hideously awful song. Far worse than boots imo.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: mofo74 on April 03, 2009, 01:35:30 PM
Fast cars
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: joegtheog on April 03, 2009, 01:41:51 PM
Paint it Black
Fortunate Son
Beat on the Brat
Viva Davidoff
Elvis Ate America
The Refugee

The Jazz Man knows better, he just can't let it go.
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: RedRocks83 on April 03, 2009, 01:46:40 PM
I know "boots" has taken alot of bashing...
But, as a fan for over 27 years, I like it.
It's different, catchy, and really rocks. IMO
Title: Re: Is Boots the worst song U2 have ever recorded?
Post by: Got U2 on April 03, 2009, 02:04:17 PM
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I know "boots" has taken alot of bashing...
But, as a fan for over 27 years, I like it.
It's different, catchy, and really rocks. IMO


For a second I thought I wrote this comment

I only like about 1/2 the Album & Boot's is on the good side.....