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Title: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mucksavage on June 09, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
Anyone agree?
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Post by: Northern Soul on June 09, 2009, 02:54:25 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: DGordon1 on June 09, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
Probably will, although I personally prefer some other songs from the album. Top tune though.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 09, 2009, 02:57:48 PM
Absolutely. It's the first U2 song to give me the chills from the first note - and make that an amazing feeling. When I first heard it, my first reaction was, "Oh my goodness, this is the best thing I've ever heard!"
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 09, 2009, 03:03:18 PM
DEFINITELY. CLASSIC.
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Post by: Vonobox on June 09, 2009, 04:24:57 PM
Agree absolutely
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Nielsen on June 09, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
I initially rejected it. The word "initially" should tell you what happened next  :)
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Post by: ayajedi on June 09, 2009, 05:14:21 PM
It is a very good tune. I think it will live on and on
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: robkey33 on June 09, 2009, 05:30:38 PM
 ;D

Sure is a classic. Sure to be great live too. The single did badly in the UK. Unusual due to the amount of airplay it got over here.
But I love it. Great song off a great album.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Bundang Dave on June 09, 2009, 05:56:15 PM
It will be remembered in a group along with Beautiful Day, City of Blinding Lights, and Miracle Drug . . . all nice songs for me, but not what I think of U2's classic best.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: ITM on June 11, 2009, 05:58:03 AM
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It will be remembered in a group along with Beautiful Day, City of Blinding Lights, and Miracle Drug . . . all nice songs for me, but not what I think of U2's classic best.

"Beautiful Day" is in a class of songs better than "COBL" and "Miracle Drug" in my humble opinion. I would place "Magnificent" right next to "Streets".

 Instant classic from the first run through for me.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: joegtheog on June 11, 2009, 03:00:02 PM
Yes. Great song. Not the best on the album but close.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: jackofhearts on June 11, 2009, 05:43:49 PM
I haven't listened to NLOTH in a while and I forget how "Magnificent" goes, so I say no.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 11, 2009, 08:52:09 PM
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I haven't listened to NLOTH in a while and I forget how "Magnificent" goes, so I say no.

I sincerely don't think that's possible jackoffhearts.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Anthony02 on June 11, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
It definitely has the potential. Im curious to see the reaction it gets on the tour. Every time Ive heard it live, its gotten better and better.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vonobox on June 12, 2009, 10:35:08 AM
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I haven't listened to NLOTH in a while and I forget how "Magnificent" goes, so I say no.

Let me help..

(ahem)

Oh, Oh, Maaaaniiiiificennnnnnt!

Ring a bell?   8)
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 13, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
MANificent?
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Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 13, 2009, 10:22:09 PM
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MANificent?

Sometimes Bono makes it hard to clearly hear the "G", perhaps? :D
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 13, 2009, 11:04:08 PM
ah hah!  ;D Well in any case Man or Mag - this song is Classic Coke (the drink) Man!
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 14, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
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It will be remembered in a group along with Beautiful Day, City of Blinding Lights, and Miracle Drug . . . all nice songs for me, but not what I think of U2's classic best.

"Beautiful Day" is in a class of songs better than "COBL" and "Miracle Drug" in my humble opinion. I would place "Magnificent" right next to "Streets".

 Instant classic from the first run through for me.

Beautiful Day is in the same category with Streets no doubt...right next to COBL and Magnificent
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: american stalin on June 14, 2009, 01:42:27 PM
It's a good song, but outside of hardcore fan base it will be forgotten.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 14, 2009, 02:21:31 PM
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It's a good song, but outside of hardcore fan base it will be forgotten.

Im not so sure about that
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 14, 2009, 02:26:18 PM
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It's a good song, but outside of hardcore fan base it will be forgotten.

Im not so sure about that

Me neither. The more casual fans who hear it in concert will love it once they hear it.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: american stalin on June 14, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
the casual fan would like anything they play because they are great live.

Magnificent is not in the same class as WOWY, Beautiful day, Sunday Bloody Sunday.  It's pleasant and good, but doesn't add much to the cannon as it's a fairly conventional U2 song.  the groove is pretty sweet though.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 14, 2009, 02:59:34 PM
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the casual fan would like anything they play because they are great live.

Magnificent is not in the same class as WOWY, Beautiful day, Sunday Bloody Sunday.  It's pleasant and good, but doesn't add much to the cannon as it's a fairly conventional U2 song.  the groove is pretty sweet though.

But live greatness is what helped put the songs above over the top into legend status.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 14, 2009, 08:33:42 PM
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the casual fan would like anything they play because they are great live.

Magnificent is not in the same class as WOWY, Beautiful day, Sunday Bloody Sunday.  It's pleasant and good, but doesn't add much to the cannon as it's a fairly conventional U2 song.  the groove is pretty sweet though.

I get your point but I think it should still be considered a classic. It's better than "Even Better Than The Real Thing" in my opinion and I love that song. It might be as good as "ISHFWILF" but that's perhaps questionable.. It's a classic U2 song though, just not the best ever U2 song.

I love it!
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: american stalin on June 15, 2009, 11:24:20 AM
WOWY, ISHFWILF, Beautiful Day, One...the recordings are classics and they'd be part of the rock cannon even if the live versions were no good.  ISHFWILF is maybe the greatest song ever written, it's in the Premiership while Magnificent is the champion of major league soccer.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vonobox on June 15, 2009, 05:22:53 PM
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MANificent?

That's why I don't sing for a living.  My enunciation is terrible
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 15, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
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MANificent?

That's why I don't sing for a living.  My enunciation is terrible

that's kind of funny (and very honest) with your sonny bono avatar!
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vonobox on June 15, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
 :)
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Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 15, 2009, 07:48:57 PM
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:)

I actually think your avatar would better suit our dear forum friend, Evil Bono. :)
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: andym on June 15, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
not for me unfortunately

having a line like magnificent in a single is asking for trouble.

The verse really dives and The chorus lines are ok.

the end just seems to trail off.

 moment of surrender will be though
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: DGordon1 on June 16, 2009, 06:11:51 AM
I think the only thing that's missing in this song is a killer chorus. I think the verses really build well and the "ooh ooh" bits add great anticipation for the chorus and then it just sounds ... good but not as great as I was hoping. It sounds a little to easy for me and not quite the big, grand moment that the rest of the song builds towards. I still like the song a lot, but I don't see it as the best on the record. I personally prefer MoS also; that manages to balance a song that's interesting musically and is also stirring and emotive.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: exmachinax on June 16, 2009, 04:57:12 PM
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Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic

Not for me. Nice song, but it lacks something to be remarkable, as I said in another thread.

Lacks what, you ask? Don't know. I just feel this way.  ???
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 17, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
I'm surprised actually that some people don't think it's classic. And, some have said it doesn't have a chorus? Wtf?!

The chorus starts with "Only Love, Only Love can leave such a mark" through to "Magnificent" repeated. It's one of the better chorus U2 have done. It's "Fantastic".

Look, there are classic U2 songs, and there are songs that U2 have done that would be classics in anyone's book. Songs that are universally classic.

A Classic U2 Song would be something like: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day, New Year's Day...for example.

A Universally Classic Song (That U2 have done) are songs like: Pride (In The Name Of Love), and One. These songs are so well written they are nearly impossible to deny. They are some of the best songs written by anyone, at any time, in any place.

Then there's "Streets" which I think falls into both camps. Universally classic but hardly anyone could pull it off except U2.

"Magnificent" in my humble opinion falls into the category of the (1st) & former, a Classic U2 song. And that's a great thing.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vonobox on June 17, 2009, 01:03:46 PM
I'm not much of a fan of all the discobeat Magnificent remixes, but I heard the radio edit twice last week on the radio.  (is that redundant??)  Anyway, I much prefer the album version.  Exile's edit is quite good too. 

I think it ranks up there with Beautiful Day, One, Streets, Pride and SBS.  The fact that it's not ALL OVER THE RADIO is a sign o' the times in commercial broadcasting rather than a function of Magnificent being a second-tier song. 

U2 have only had three gold singles in their history - Beautiful Day, Vertigo and Discotheque.  Magnificent is much better than the latter two (although they are good songs too). 
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: pfctsqr on June 19, 2009, 09:32:38 AM
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I'm surprised actually that some people don't think it's classic. And, some have said it doesn't have a chorus? Wtf?!

The chorus starts with "Only Love, Only Love can leave such a mark" through to "Magnificent" repeated. It's one of the better chorus U2 have done. It's "Fantastic".

Look, there are classic U2 songs, and there are songs that U2 have done that would be classics in anyone's book. Songs that are universally classic.

A Classic U2 Song would be something like: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day, New Year's Day...for example.

A Universally Classic Song (That U2 have done) are songs like: Pride (In The Name Of Love), and One. These songs are so well written they are nearly impossible to deny. They are some of the best songs written by anyone, at any time, in any place.

Then there's "Streets" which I think falls into both camps. Universally classic but hardly anyone could pull it off except U2.

"Magnificent" in my humble opinion falls into the category of the (1st) & former, a Classic U2 song. And that's a great thing.

The idea of "Only love can make such a mark and only love can heal such a scar" is also found in the lyrics of "Grace" and I believe "Grace" is a much better written song.  Many have said that song is boring, but I think its the most beautiful song u2 has written this decade.  As to Magnificent, I at first thought it would be a classic, but I also think its missing something.  It may be that the riff is a bit too "u2 formula."  Take out the Eno treatment and it sounds like a leftover from October, and I actually think Gloria is the better song.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 19, 2009, 09:36:56 AM
they are just different songs. I also like Grace. Both are very good. I wouldn't want an entire album of the song Grace in the same tempo, just as I wouldn't want 'Magnificent. 'Different' is what makes the world a more interesting place.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Bundang Dave on June 19, 2009, 08:29:10 PM
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I'm surprised actually that some people don't think it's classic. And, some have said it doesn't have a chorus? Wtf?!

The chorus starts with "Only Love, Only Love can leave such a mark" through to "Magnificent" repeated. It's one of the better chorus U2 have done. It's "Fantastic".

Look, there are classic U2 songs, and there are songs that U2 have done that would be classics in anyone's book. Songs that are universally classic.

A Classic U2 Song would be something like: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day, New Year's Day...for example.

A Universally Classic Song (That U2 have done) are songs like: Pride (In The Name Of Love), and One. These songs are so well written they are nearly impossible to deny. They are some of the best songs written by anyone, at any time, in any place.

Then there's "Streets" which I think falls into both camps. Universally classic but hardly anyone could pull it off except U2.

"Magnificent" in my humble opinion falls into the category of the (1st) & former, a Classic U2 song. And that's a great thing.

For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 19, 2009, 08:37:21 PM
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I'm surprised actually that some people don't think it's classic. And, some have said it doesn't have a chorus? Wtf?!

The chorus starts with "Only Love, Only Love can leave such a mark" through to "Magnificent" repeated. It's one of the better chorus U2 have done. It's "Fantastic".

Look, there are classic U2 songs, and there are songs that U2 have done that would be classics in anyone's book. Songs that are universally classic.

A Classic U2 Song would be something like: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Beautiful Day, New Year's Day...for example.

A Universally Classic Song (That U2 have done) are songs like: Pride (In The Name Of Love), and One. These songs are so well written they are nearly impossible to deny. They are some of the best songs written by anyone, at any time, in any place.

Then there's "Streets" which I think falls into both camps. Universally classic but hardly anyone could pull it off except U2.

"Magnificent" in my humble opinion falls into the category of the (1st) & former, a Classic U2 song. And that's a great thing.

For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

that's obviously fine because that's how you feel about it. i think it's great personally. but someone or more than one person said it 'doesn't have a chorus'. and, I've read this in other threads as well. it's okay to say you don't like the chorus or you think it lacks a more developed chorus. But NO chorus? That's absurd. All I know is that when blasting it on the highway with the windows down on a sunny day - its AWESOME!
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 19, 2009, 10:39:01 PM
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For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco  elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

NOT out of place French disco elements. The working title of the song was "French Disco". So obviously they were a part of the genesis of what became "Magnficent".
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Bundang Dave on June 20, 2009, 12:36:58 AM
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For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco  elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

NOT out of place French disco elements. The working title of the song was "French Disco". So obviously they were a part of the genesis of what became "Magnificent".

Indeed they were part of the genesis of the song. Despite that, they're still out of place because they don't fit in with the vocal, lyric, drum, and guitar . . . all IMHO of course.
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Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 20, 2009, 02:43:27 PM
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For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco  elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

NOT out of place French disco elements. The working title of the song was "French Disco". So obviously they were a part of the genesis of what became "Magnificent".


I personally like that juxtaposition. to me that often makes a piece of music interesting. clashing elements when brilliantly put together create a bit of tension in music (not always emotional but more a pushing and pulling between the instruments or between the rhythm and the melody.). U2 often gets this right as they also manage to make it sound natural. I think they largely succeed on that here too. It's one of my faves on this album. It's like Disco-Spiritual, or Disco-Gospel. I love that about it....just my opinion.
Indeed they were part of the genesis of the song. Despite that, they're still out of place because they don't fit in with the vocal, lyric, drum, and guitar . . . all IMHO of course.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: LOGAN B on June 22, 2009, 01:35:59 PM
I think if Magnificent would have been in let's say the WAR album then it would have been a classic. It sounds like it would have fit perfectly in the 80's. It's not a classic now. Sorry. U2's last classic was Beautiful Day. A classic has to be a song that enters into the culture and finds a spot there.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 22, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
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I think if Magnificent would have been in let's say the WAR album then it would have been a classic. It sounds like it would have fit perfectly in the 80's. It's not a classic now. Sorry. U2's last classic was Beautiful Day. A classic has to be a song that enters into the culture and finds a spot there.

not in my opinion. If that were true - then Black Eyed Peas would be classic and so would Jonas Brothers.
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Post by: Anthony02 on June 22, 2009, 07:31:14 PM
Vertigo hit the culture pretty well, and IMO its nowhere near a classic. In fact, Magnificent blows Vertigo away. But so does the rest of NLOTH. So much better than the last 2 albums. IMO.
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Post by: JoshuaTree94 on June 22, 2009, 11:54:17 PM
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For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco  elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

NOT out of place French disco elements. The working title of the song was "French Disco". So obviously they were a part of the genesis of what became "Magnificent".

Indeed they were part of the genesis of the song. Despite that, they're still out of place because they don't fit in with the vocal, lyric, drum, and guitar . . . all IMHO of course.

Rhythmically/melodically or culturally?
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 23, 2009, 08:31:22 AM
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I think if Magnificent would have been in let's say the WAR album then it would have been a classic. It sounds like it would have fit perfectly in the 80's. It's not a classic now. Sorry. U2's last classic was Beautiful Day. A classic has to be a song that enters into the culture and finds a spot there.

SO...I guess you're saying that the songs "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT" and "THE MACARENA" are classics then?!   ???

PRETTY LAUGHABLE, really.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: DGordon1 on June 23, 2009, 12:42:49 PM
You can see what he means though; a song is remembered as a "classic" by mainstream audiences only if the music is indicitive of the time. For that reason I think Beautiful Day will generally be remembered as a classic, but I'm not sure if Magnificent will be. That's not to say Magnificent's inferior though.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on June 23, 2009, 03:15:12 PM
I see what he means...it has merit. It's just not exactly accurate though. The mainstream public places a lot of emphasis on disposable and sensational songs. It's unfortunate that a song like "who let the dogs out" gets remembered. Even worse that "The Chicken Dance" is also considered Classic under this rational. Also Saline Dion's "My Heart Will Implode ...umm Go On".
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Bundang Dave on June 23, 2009, 05:10:26 PM
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For me, the chorus of Magnificent is too cliche lyrically to raise it into classic status. Add in the out-of-place French disco  elements (claps, bongos, synths), and it has no chance to compare to their classics. Actually, I think it's one of the worst songs on the album, which isn't to say it's a bad song 'cause the album is a great one.

NOT out of place French disco elements. The working title of the song was "French Disco". So obviously they were a part of the genesis of what became "Magnificent".

Indeed they were part of the genesis of the song. Despite that, they're still out of place because they don't fit in with the vocal, lyric, drum, and guitar . . . all IMHO of course.

Rhythmically/melodically or culturally?

Hmm . . . for me rhythmically and I suppose culturally. The song would work much better with a more traditional Larry Mullen marching beat than what they decided to go with. Adam's bassline in excellent as is but gets lost too much under the weight of the tacked on disco elements. I say culturally too, though I don't know if that's really the right word for it, because I just find the synths and added on disco beats tacky, which undermines the lyrical theme. That's just my taste/bias. The actual notes done with the synths sound fine to me when it's Edge's guitar playing them live.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vonobox on June 24, 2009, 08:39:05 AM
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I see what he means...it has merit. It's just not exactly accurate though. The mainstream public places a lot of emphasis on disposable and sensational songs. It's unfortunate that a song like "who let the dogs out" gets remembered. Even worse that "The Chicken Dance" is also considered Classic under this rational. Also Saline Dion's "My Heart Will Implode ...umm Go On". 

LOL
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vervefloyd on August 07, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
worst song on the album.  and my least favorite song since love rescue me.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on August 07, 2009, 11:14:42 AM
classic coke.  8)
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: yahweh on August 07, 2009, 01:06:46 PM
I think such debate is useless, what is classic or not will always be subjective. On the other hand i think we should ask ourselves what songs are relevant culturally/thematically that speak to us universally, and for that Magnificent reflects our time perfectly, imo, and it's a song in the mainstream, maybe it's not as catchy as Pride, but give it time, people will certainly return to this song in the future. Btw, Vertigo and COBL are another socially/culturally relevant songs, as i have already heard numerous references to these songs(melodies) in the media over the years.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Tumbling Dice on August 07, 2009, 02:18:12 PM
It's just too derivative to be a classic. 
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Vox on August 07, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
Classic:  something that withstands the test of time.

So, no, something like "Who Let the Dogs Out" or whatever is not a classic for goodness sakes....  People throw the word classic out so much.  I'll get back to you in 10-15 years.  Dark Side of the Moon?  Now, yes, classic. 
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: suitoflights on August 07, 2009, 04:06:20 PM
I think for a classic it's at least got to do well in the pathetic excuse for a top 40 we have nowadays!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Magnificent didn't trouble the charts much did it?
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Zoostazione on August 09, 2009, 05:36:39 AM
Classic on first listen, vocals remind me of UTEOTW, guitar and propulsive beat like NYD.

U2 ought to try and open with Magnificent, any suggestions how...Edge comes out first, synth intro first, Bono a cappella first, anybody?
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 09, 2009, 06:24:15 AM
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I think for a classic it's at least got to do well in the pathetic excuse for a top 40 we have nowadays!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Magnificent didn't trouble the charts much did it?

'Desire' was U2's first #1, and yet it's hardly going to be remembered as a classic more than Streets, WOWY, I Will Follow, etc which preceded it.

Charts don't mean all that much to quality
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: 9clock on August 09, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
I think it's ok but I like "moment of surrender" better.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: suitoflights on August 09, 2009, 09:14:10 AM
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I think for a classic it's at least got to do well in the pathetic excuse for a top 40 we have nowadays!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but Magnificent didn't trouble the charts much did it?

'Desire' was U2's first #1, and yet it's hardly going to be remembered as a classic more than Streets, WOWY, I Will Follow, etc which preceded it.

Charts don't mean all that much to quality

No, but Streets and WOWY were still huge hits - Top 10 UK and WOWY no 1 in the USA. Magnificent hardly got in to the top 40. Outside loyal U2 fans I just don't think the average person probably even knows the song.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on August 09, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
U2 generally do pretty well on radio but they've rarely dominated on singles charts really although they typically get in the top #40-50. they do much better selling albums and touring. Magnificent in another time would have ranked much better. It's a great song for sure and will imho sit in the realm of their classics, but it's not a super catchy song like Desire or Angel of Harlem, or Beautiful Day. Those are pretty much the catchiest that U2 get. But, even when Desire and AOH came out they weren't of the time. they sounded a little unusual on the radio. A quality I like about U2 music.

A lot of people think rock music is dead. U2 have outlasted the genre they were a part of but only because they were always unusual. they blend genres and ideas. the challenge now for U2 is getting people to see them differently. Because U2 conquered rock and have sat on top of the throne for over 25 years, people will say they they are 'just' a rock band. And they think rock is passe. As fans of U2's music, we know they have changed, pushed the boundaries, and pulled the genre apart and put it back together again. it must be weird for them though to see the primary genre that they conquered go nearly extinct. indie rock really doesn't rock for the most part. it's more folk than anything. And the other so called 'rock' bands are more Pop than Rock. Kings of Leon may be able to keep the Rock going though and if more bands follow their lead, a form of the genre could rise again.

Either way, as long as U2 keep making great albums that's all I care about. I could care less what genre(s) they play with as long as they apply their trademark style and songwriting.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: LinneaS on August 17, 2009, 01:42:14 AM
I do think Magnificent is a classic.  Among other things, I think it's some of Edge's very best playing, with that swirling, dizzying guitar line.  Lyrically, it's very simple, but that's OK.  I've heard some songs where the lyric writer was clearly trying to be too clever by half.  And it's a wonderful testament to the healing power of love, whether romantic or divine.

Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JamietheEdgefan on August 17, 2009, 06:47:52 PM
I love this song, but i think it will be difficult for it to become a classic because of the production of it. it sounds way too overproduced, the drums sound flat, the guitars are WAY too quiet, and the moroccan percussion is drowned out.
Now i remember hearing the bootleg version of this song, and it could have just been the quality of the recording, but to me it sounded like an infinitely superior version - there was a distinctive, brutal rythm guitar slamming down chords (making it sound live and rock n' roll), and on top of that there was an electronic guitar effect playing an amazing melody around Bono's voice (making the track sound experimental). If THIS had been the version they had released, imho it would have been a much better and more successful song. But sadly, to me Magnificent sounds too overproduced, it doesn't sound like the lads jamming together and making some great music with production over the top, it sounds like an obviously radio friendly, squeaky clean shell of its former self.  :-\
But Nonetheless, i love u2, and i still love this song, and at least it kicks ass live!  :)
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Mr. BonorFLYd on August 17, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
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I love this song, but i think it will be difficult for it to become a classic because of the production of it. it sounds way too overproduced, the drums sound flat, the guitars are WAY too quiet, and the moroccan percussion is drowned out.
Now i remember hearing the bootleg version of this song, and it could have just been the quality of the recording, but to me it sounded like an infinitely superior version - there was a distinctive, brutal rythm guitar slamming down chords (making it sound live and rock n' roll), and on top of that there was an electronic guitar effect playing an amazing melody around Bono's voice (making the track sound experimental). If THIS had been the version they had released, imho it would have been a much better and more successful song. But sadly, to me Magnificent sounds too overproduced, it doesn't sound like the lads jamming together and making some great music with production over the top, it sounds like an obviously radio friendly, squeaky clean shell of its former self.  :-\
But Nonetheless, i love u2, and i still love this song, and at least it kicks ass live!  :)

um the guitar is probably the loudest instrument in the song. are you sure you have an ideal EQ setting?
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Gravy11 on August 17, 2009, 09:31:57 PM
IT hooked me at first listen when they debuted the album online. I hit repeat a few times. I think this and "Unknown Caller" are the gems of Nloth. As for a classic....too soon to tell. I think in 5 years after 2-3 more albums, the overall tone might change and it will be right up there.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Asteroid41 on January 06, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
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IT hooked me at first listen when they debuted the album online. I hit repeat a few times. I think this and "Unknown Caller" are the gems of Nloth. As for a classic....too soon to tell. I think in 5 years after 2-3 more albums, the overall tone might change and it will be right up there.

Yep it's a classic to me!
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: hollywoodswag on January 07, 2018, 03:42:18 AM
This was the first song on NLOTH to really resonate with me. I like it a lot. It has a good drive to it. I certainly think of it as a classic, and a song I wish would have more prominence live.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Sunchild on January 07, 2018, 01:43:15 PM
There is a greatness of Magnificent waiting to be unleashed, as great as With Or Without You or One, I have a feeling it is bound to be rediscovered in wider appeal when the time comes, once it is included in some famous film or any other media, people will find greater resonance in this. Some songs do have this lingering power, sleeping silently only to be awakened again by new perceptions, to become truly Magnificent. 
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: BorneOfSound on January 08, 2018, 02:01:56 PM
Yes. And NLOTH is still a great album.


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Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on January 08, 2018, 05:04:34 PM
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Absolutely. It's the first U2 song to give me the chills from the first note - and make that an amazing feeling. When I first heard it, my first reaction was, "Oh my goodness, this is the best thing I've ever heard!"

I was very excited in my youth. I still like the song. Maybe not quite as much, but still plenty.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: iced on January 10, 2018, 04:13:06 AM
Absolutely...
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: miryclay on January 10, 2018, 06:39:29 AM
All of the songs on NLOTH were great live and instantly great. The weakest of the lot live was the song NLOTH.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: lightmyway92 on January 10, 2018, 08:56:57 AM
It's an uplifting song of spiritual longing in the classic U2 tradition.  It should have been the first single off NLOTH.
Title: Re: Magnificent is gonna be remembered as a classic
Post by: Dali on January 14, 2018, 02:38:26 PM
Yes.