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Title: Ditch Breathe
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on August 02, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
I would really like them to take Breathe out of their set once they hit the U.S.   
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on August 02, 2009, 09:17:44 PM
Wont happen and NO, keep it. Its a great concert opener
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Vincent on August 02, 2009, 09:31:47 PM
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I would really like them to take Breathe out of their set once they hit the U.S.   

Step away from the Vodka :o

LOL j/k

Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on August 02, 2009, 11:34:51 PM
No! Keep it. The extended drum intro is epic. Not as epic as say, Pop Muzik into Mofo or the ZooTV intro, but still epic in it's own right. Not to mention this being such a great song.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Nielsen on August 03, 2009, 12:42:20 AM
If anything, you should really be asking for rotation of the hits i.e. SBS, I Still, With or Without You etc.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: renno on August 03, 2009, 03:47:58 AM
i wasnt sure about breathe as an opener but when i saw it last saturday at croke park i suddenly changed my mind

Top song to opener with . and it is electric when each band member comes out
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: philip861 on August 03, 2009, 05:59:01 AM
Couple of thoughts on Breathe...

I really don't think it works as an opener. I was at two Croke Park shows and it seemed to me most people didn't know the song, or did and weren't really into it. I think the opener should get everyone on their feet, like Vertigo did last time, Elevation before that, and Mofo during Popmart. I know in the setlist threads we have been debating the extent to which U2 have chosen songs that even casual fans would know, and most people on here would be against that, but I do think the opening song sets the tempo for the entire gig. I'm not sure that Breathe gets everybody moving from the start.

Secondly, Breathe seems to be a particularly vocally challenging song for Bono (maybe this is why it's played first). I noticed during the promotional gigs (i.e. on Letterman, Ross etc) there seemed to be some sort of echo device which added depth to when Bono sung the "breathe..."; there doesn't seem to be any such vocal enhancement at the shows, and as a result Bono struggles with the song.

In my opinion the song should not open the show, but should be on the setlist. If Bono can sing it after belting out five or six other songs, great. If not, drop it.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 03, 2009, 06:05:12 AM
I like it just fine as the opener; sets a fast beat from the start, but even if they change that, I can't see it leaving the setlist entirely at any point.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: SaintMike on August 03, 2009, 08:08:23 AM
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I would really like them to take Breathe out of their set once they hit the U.S.   

Are you for real?  It's the 2nd best song on the new album.  I like it as an opener too - it's not U2's fault that the crowds suck and nobody seems to get overly hyped for it.

I hate this Stadium tour I think.  From what I have seen on YouTube it's like theres too many casual fans and it's just too wide open of a space.  In an Arena  it's intimate enough to where the excitement and energy stays bottled up and bounces around the facility.  With a huge stadium all the energy just floats up and away like a balloon on a breezy summer night.  Maybe I'll change my mind when I see them in person, but I think I miss the arenas.

Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Vervefloyd on August 03, 2009, 09:05:41 AM
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Couple of thoughts on Breathe...

I really don't think it works as an opener. I was at two Croke Park shows and it seemed to me most people didn't know the song, or did and weren't really into it. I think the opener should get everyone on their feet, like Vertigo did last time, Elevation before that, and Mofo during Popmart. I know in the setlist threads we have been debating the extent to which U2 have chosen songs that even casual fans would know, and most people on here would be against that, but I do think the opening song sets the tempo for the entire gig. I'm not sure that Breathe gets everybody moving from the start.

Secondly, Breathe seems to be a particularly vocally challenging song for Bono (maybe this is why it's played first). I noticed during the promotional gigs (i.e. on Letterman, Ross etc) there seemed to be some sort of echo device which added depth to when Bono sung the "breathe..."; there doesn't seem to be any such vocal enhancement at the shows, and as a result Bono struggles with the song.

In my opinion the song should not open the show, but should be on the setlist. If Bono can sing it after belting out five or six other songs, great. If not, drop it.

don't forget though that vertigo didn't open the US shows.  they moved COBL out of the first spot outdoors I assume to get it played when it was dark out.  U2 doesn't always go with the catchiest first songs.  Mofo, while to us diehards is a catchy opening, to the casual fan its not.  Lets face it, for the casual fan at these shows there are only a handful of songs that would get them truly going right off the bad.  the new album doesn't really have that, although the intro riff to get on your boots would have that effect on the crowd.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: philip861 on August 03, 2009, 09:13:03 AM
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I would really like them to take Breathe out of their set once they hit the U.S.   

Are you for real?  It's the 2nd best song on the new album.  I like it as an opener too - it's not U2's fault that the crowds suck and nobody seems to get overly hyped for it.

I hate this Stadium tour I think.  From what I have seen on YouTube it's like theres too many casual fans and it's just too wide open of a space.  In an Arena  it's intimate enough to where the excitement and energy stays bottled up and bounces around the facility.  With a huge stadium all the energy just floats up and away like a balloon on a breezy summer night.  Maybe I'll change my mind when I see them in person, but I think I miss the arenas.



I think is a combination of stadiums and the song itself. I went to the Croke Park with friends who weren't particularly devoted U2 fans and they just didn't get Breathe, and were fairly subdued until Beautiful Day was played, whereas in 2005 they went nuts at the start (when Vertigo opened).
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: chadp123 on August 03, 2009, 09:15:06 AM
on the last tour, i thought city of blinding lights was an incredible opener.  it's not a typical opening song in that it starts off a bit slow, but the big leadup w/ confetti falling and bono appearing gave me goosebumps every time.  since the song starts off a bit slow, the crowd was totally amped up for the chorus and sang along in a big way.  i'd love to see every show start w/ COBL and end w/ 40, but time goes on and they want to try new things.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: philip861 on August 03, 2009, 09:32:50 AM
I always assumed for this tour they would start with GOYB. The ZooTV-like intro seemed to work well at the Grammys/Brits, and it is an upbeat track that would get people moving.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Dream Out Loud on August 03, 2009, 10:22:58 AM
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I always assumed for this tour they would start with GOYB. The ZooTV-like intro seemed to work well at the Grammys/Brits, and it is an upbeat track that would get people moving.

start with Stand Up Comedy.  you don't think, "Stand up for your love" won't get them up and moving right off the bat?  Breathe should open the encore.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Achtung40Life on August 03, 2009, 10:28:36 AM
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I always assumed for this tour they would start with GOYB. The ZooTV-like intro seemed to work well at the Grammys/Brits, and it is an upbeat track that would get people moving.

start with Stand Up Comedy.  you don't think, "Stand up for your love" won't get them up and moving right off the bat?  Breathe should open the encore.

I was thinking to myself, I could see U2 starting their NA tour with Stand Up Comdey, everyone in Chicago would be stunned, now that's an opener! But then again, I could also see U2 keeping the opener the same.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: miami on August 04, 2009, 08:44:56 AM
it has taken me a while to get into breathe, but it is one of the best songs they've ever done. it doesn't sound like any of their other songs. it rocks and it kicks ass live. who cares if casual fans don't get it!

another thing. u2 always open their set with a song from the album they are touring with. so they will NEVER open with a song from any previous albums.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: jick on August 04, 2009, 10:00:39 AM
Why don't U2 just open with Magnificent, then ditch Breathe, No Line, and Boots, and replace them with more of the oldies or "greatest hits"?

They don't need to force those new songs down the public's throats anymore since by now they have already made up their minds about Boots and whether or not to buy the new album.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Nielsen on August 04, 2009, 10:07:40 AM
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Why don't U2 just open with Magnificent, then ditch Breathe, No Line, and Boots, and replace them with more of the oldies or "greatest hits"?

They don't need to force those new songs down the public's throats anymore since by now they have already made up their minds about Boots and whether or not to buy the new album.

Cheers,

J


Because it isn't U2, The Greatest Hits Tour  ::)
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: u290sbaby on August 04, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
So many confused posters on here and this post regarding Breathe is nonsense anyway.

Most should know that U2 opens every tour with new songs and at the very least, the first song on the set is always one that defines the new tour. It also often does confuse many casual fans at shows. This is not new at all. Are you going to tell me that all fans were static when Zoo Station was played as the opening track to the ZooTV/Zooropa tour? The 5 minute intro prior to the song was the real hook there but once the opening song started it didn't have people jumping off their seats. However, Zoo Station defined the meaning of the tour so it stayed until the end.

With the Popmart tour, "Mofo" stayed as the opener as it also defined the real meaning of both the Pop album and the tour. Same goes for Elevation, however that song was a bit more exciting live since it has the whoo hoos built in.

During the Vertigo tour, "Citi of Blinding Lights" was a great opener here in the US, but it had a similar effect on the crowds as Breathe does now. Most were still not used to this song and honestly, it is a fairly anti-climatic song also.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: dirtdrybonesandstone on August 04, 2009, 12:10:29 PM
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So many confused posters on here and this post regarding Breathe is nonsense anyway.

What an unclassy response to my post.   Exactly why I continue to visit this board less and less.   

Yes, we all know that they open with a song from the current CD.   There are many to choose from, including Fez-Being Born, Crazy Tonight, etc., which are songs that I, for one, like much better.   
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: johnbhoyc on August 04, 2009, 12:13:24 PM
I love Breathe and think its a great opener.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: JoshuaTree94 on August 04, 2009, 12:23:41 PM
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Why don't U2 just open with Magnificent, then ditch Breathe, No Line, and Boots, and replace them with more of the oldies or "greatest hits"?

They don't need to force those new songs down the public's throats anymore since by now they have already made up their minds about Boots and whether or not to buy the new album.

Cheers,

J


Because - get this, Jick - there are fans that actually like the new album. Shocking, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Achtung_Habs on August 04, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
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Why don't U2 just open with Magnificent, then ditch Breathe, No Line, and Boots, and replace them with more of the oldies or "greatest hits"?

They don't need to force those new songs down the public's throats anymore since by now they have already made up their minds about Boots and whether or not to buy the new album.

Cheers,

J


Because they are touring to support their new album ?  It's not a farewell tour.  And as said before, people like the album !
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: satellitedog01 on August 04, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
I never liked Breathe as an opener either.
Magnificent would work for the US crowds and GOYB is another obvious alternative. Stand Up Comedy would be good in the first part of the set though...
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: MirrorballMoon on August 04, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
I don't want them to drop it from the set, I just wish they'd open with something else.  My vote?  NLOTH.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Tumbling Dice on August 04, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
'Breathe' should definitely be in the set but I think GOYB or 'Magnificent' would be more epic openers for the evening to get EVERYONE, die hard and casual fans alike,  into the show.  The opening song in a show is of crucial importance as it sets the tone and it's important to get it just right.  I suspect virtually any fans would have predicted or desired 'Breathe' to have been the opener in this production and neither would the casual concert goer who's hard earned money is keeping the show on the road.  Of course it's U2's decision in the final analysis.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: nolinehere on August 04, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
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Why don't U2 just open with Magnificent, then ditch Breathe, No Line, and Boots, and replace them with more of the oldies or "greatest hits"?

They don't need to force those new songs down the public's throats anymore since by now they have already made up their minds about Boots and whether or not to buy the new album.

Cheers,

J


Because - get this, Jick - there are fans that actually like the new album. Shocking, isn't it?

Ditto that - it's a lot better than the last 2

Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: andym on August 04, 2009, 09:14:23 PM
the GOYB intro screams open the concert with me...

Let me in the sound etc..maybe lengthen it even more and really build it up.

Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Dream Out Loud on August 05, 2009, 07:34:59 AM
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the GOYB intro screams open the concert with me...

Let me in the sound etc..maybe lengthen it even more and really build it up.



how about using that "LET ME IN THE SOUND....nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah" intro they are using right now for Boots as the start of the show...and then go right into Stand Up Comedy?  Save Boots for later.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: MelicansMatkin on August 05, 2009, 09:11:49 AM
It'll be the fourth single (according to a page I saw on U2.com a few days ago), so they ain't gonna drop Breathe.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Achtung40Life on August 05, 2009, 04:17:02 PM
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It'll be the fourth single (according to a page I saw on U2.com a few days ago), so they ain't gonna drop Breathe.

Link?
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 05, 2009, 04:17:41 PM
Well, it was always the obvious choice- it or NLOTH.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: MelicansMatkin on August 05, 2009, 04:34:12 PM
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It'll be the fourth single (according to a page I saw on U2.com a few days ago), so they ain't gonna drop Breathe.

Link?

Don't know if this will work properly or not, but here's the link (https://u2.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/product?sourceCode=U2CFCM&sku=U2T46737). It's an image of a new Men's T-shirt from the U2.com shop, and the description reads "Black, 100% cotton, short-sleeved t-shirt featuring lyric from 'Breathe' single on the front and reads 'U2 360 Tour '09' on the back." (Emphasis mine, image of shirt below).

If the link doesn't work for you, go to the U2.com shop. Under clothing select "Mens" and scroll down. It's the third image in the third row (ninth image overall). Click the image and the page will load with the description I copied. Shirt's $35 USD if you're interested. If you haven't checked them out recently, there's a lot of nice merch this time around.

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Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Miami66 on August 05, 2009, 04:35:19 PM
drop breathe... no way jose!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: The Unknown Caller on August 05, 2009, 04:43:11 PM
That's the t-shirt my friend, who ADORES Breathe, wanted to get, but they were out of it.  :-\
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: MirrorballMoon on August 05, 2009, 06:05:59 PM
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That's the t-shirt my friend, who ADORES Breathe, wanted to get, but they were out of it.  :-\

Breathe isn't my favorite song on the new album, but I LOVE that line!
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: theocean on August 05, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
I love Breathe.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: yahweh on August 06, 2009, 06:46:11 AM
The most theatrical song i've ever heard, the singing is like a poetic preaching to people. Perfect opener, probably the best U2 ever had, imo.
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: Ruskafarian on August 06, 2009, 04:52:50 PM
I could not agree any more - nothing wrong with "Breathe" being played live, and frankly I don't think this thread should be about whether "Breathe" is a good song or not.

It's more about the question whether "Breathe" is a good opener or not.

Frankly, having seen more U2 shows than I can count on both hands, spanning back to the POPMart tour, I think this is the weakest opener.

I'd love to hear from those who think "Breathe" IS a good opener... why? I don't care how much you like the song, or whether you think it's the best or worst from the album. Why do you think it makes for a good opener?

In my opinion, I think it lacks the driving force and energy than some of the other options the boys have.

It's not a bad song, and again: I don't think that what this is about. I just think it's a very weak choice for the opening track.

I think that "Magnificent" is an obvious substitute, or even the very early (single?) version of "No Line On The Horizon" that was released... you know, the one that actually rocked and sounds like an amazing track from the Acthung Baby era - not the version they put out on the album.

Breathe has the tempo of a track that belongs somewhere in between slots 4-7 in the setlist.

I've gotta admit, during each show, I check U2Tours.com with my fingers crossed thinking, "please please please please", hoping for something other than "Breathe"... neggles.

My heart's gonna be racing to see if they shake it up for the US leg, although I'm not holding my breath (hahaha).

I just don't think that the band has the same energy they did 30, 20 or even 10 - or even 5!! - years ago. There's no debating that they are getting older, and their tempo isn't going to be what it once was. (That said, it's always incredible to see Jagger & Richards, and how much running around their stages those guys do.)
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on August 06, 2009, 10:09:39 PM
I honestly think it does have that driving force and energy needed for an opener.  I always thought it should be Breathe or Magnificent and I would be happy with either one
Title: Re: Ditch Breathe
Post by: yahweh on August 07, 2009, 01:39:00 AM
It has certainly more energy than Elevation, Mofo, Zoo Station. Imo, Breathe is actually one of those songs that don't belong in the middle of the set list, it has "opener" literally written all over it.  ;)