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Title: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: ireland61290 on September 16, 2009, 11:39:15 PM
Idk. I'd really like to hear the Pop classics like Discotheque, Last Night on Earth, Do You Feel loved and Id like to hear If God Will Send His Angels. Idk. what do you think?
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: ken on September 16, 2009, 11:43:52 PM
Wouldn't object to one of those on the setlist, but not thirsty for it  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Aqua on September 17, 2009, 12:12:23 AM
Hell yes! Pop is not my favorite but with the 360 Lighting and the whole party atmosphere they try to create Discotheque would fit in brilliantly around that Crazy/Vertigo area. Gone is also a breathtaking spectacle live and audiences and casual fans should be exposed to that song.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: indiansummer on September 17, 2009, 01:53:00 AM
Yup, Discotheque could be a possible, and an acoustic Please would be nice. They apparently rehearsed Angels a few times but it hasn't surfaced yet.
But in general the choice of songs this tour has been excellent. Covered almost every base, barring minor omissions of Pop and Boy/October.
But I'm sure if I had avoided looking at the sets and saw the Toronto show last night, I would have been very happy.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: beau99 on September 17, 2009, 02:38:34 AM
While I'd love to see some more Pop/Zooropa played, I don't mind the current setlist for this tour.

Except I hate Unknown Caller with a passion and WOWY is boring now... but otherwise.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: SirGazzatron on September 17, 2009, 03:48:50 AM
BRING IT ON!

(Boom Cha!)


 ;) :D ;D :P :-*

hehe
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 17, 2009, 05:24:51 AM
In the book U2 BY U2, the band have made public their dismay, regret, and criticism about Pop.  After that book was published, they embarked on the final leg of the Vertigo Tour.  Not a single Pop song was played.

Since there have been no reports of the band taking those words back, or disowning what was written in that book, I don't think they would play a song from an album which they regret releasing too soon and dub as unfinished.

While many internet forum fans would want Pop to be played live, those with a deeper appreciation for U2 would understand that it would be more enjoyable to hear U2 perform a song they really want to - as opposed to playing a phone-it-in version of a songs from an album they have despised over time and would probably perform half-heartedly.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: indiansummer on September 17, 2009, 06:20:10 AM
They soundchecked If God Will Send His Angels on several occasions on this tour. I'm sure they will play other Pop songs , again,   we need to hear Please again before the end.

Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: daveyg on September 17, 2009, 06:21:22 AM
Would have loved to hear please again!
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: mattyk on September 17, 2009, 06:57:21 AM
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While many internet forum fans would want Pop to be played live, those with a deeper appreciation for U2 would understand that it would be more enjoyable to hear U2 perform a song they really want to - as opposed to playing a phone-it-in version of a songs from an album they have despised over time and would probably perform half-heartedly.

J


I hate rising to Jick's bait, but there are at least a few songs that U2 (or various members) love from that album. Edge has said on at least a few occasions that Gone is one of his favourite songs to play. And there's no way that you could call the performance of staring at the sun on the Slane DVD or the performances of Please post-9/11 phoning it in.

And please, FFS just f*** off with the whole "...those with a deeper appreciation for U2...". It's beyond insulting.

Back on topic, I think that Please, Gone and Discotheque would rock the house played under the Claw (think of the visual pyrotechnics from the Mexico DVD at the end of Please, but on the Claw!!). It's probably too much to hope for, but Mofo would be unbelievable!
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 17, 2009, 08:53:39 AM
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I hate rising to Jick's bait, but there are at least a few songs that U2 (or various members) love from that album. Edge has said on at least a few occasions that Gone is one of his favourite songs to play. And there's no way that you could call the performance of staring at the sun on the Slane DVD or the performances of Please post-9/11 phoning it in.

And please, FFS just f*** off with the whole "...those with a deeper appreciation for U2...". It's beyond insulting.

Back on topic, I think that Please, Gone and Discotheque would rock the house played under the Claw (think of the visual pyrotechnics from the Mexico DVD at the end of Please, but on the Claw!!). It's probably too much to hope for, but Mofo would be unbelievable!

Again, Slane Castle and the performances of Gone were pre-U2 By U2 days.  When U2 prepared U2 By U2, they had to listen to their entire body of work from the start and had already distanced themselves from their work to be more objective in assessing it. 

My point simply is - if U2 doesn't want to play it then it is better left unplayed than played just for the hell of it.  Did you guys see those atrocious performances when U2 pulls an audience member to play an unrehearsed song?  Bono just reads lyrics, gets lost in the song and has no emotion in his singing - while Mullen, Clayton, and Edge and trying to find the right chords and beat?  It's a something not worth seeing or listening to.

For example, one of my personal favorite U2 songs this decade is something called "Miracle Drug".  It has all the elements of a great U2 song: ringing echo-ridden guitars, driving bass lines, verse drums that are not full of cymbals and hi-hats, soaring vocals towards the chorus, and that economical Edge guitar solo.... but U2 no longer play it live.  Bono has mentioned that it is a midtempo song and he calls it "death by midtempo".  It will bore the audience.  As much as I like to hear that song in the show I will attend, I don't go around begging for it just like people are begging for Pop songs or Acrobat (fat chance, its never been played live anyway).

I am more happy to take what U2 have to give, as long as for the given set of circumstances, that is what U2 feels they can give justice to.  So if they play a POP song and not do it justice, I'd rather not hear it.  I have my Popmart Mexico DVD for that purpose.

Cheers,

J


Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: The Unknown Caller on September 17, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
Ignoring Jick's typical baiting, yes, I would LOVE to see some Pop on 360. In fact, basically any song from Pop except Playboy Mansion or *Shudder* Miami would make me ECSTATIC, though I'd particularly adore Please, IGWSHA or Discotheque! But any of them would be amazing, really!

Do I think we'll get one? I think it's possible. They've gone back to Passengers a bit, and if anything, their words in U2 By U2 make it even more likely that they'll return to one or two of the Pop songs in a tweaked, 'finished' version, which I'd also love. Rehearsing IGWSHA is a very good sign, I wouldn't be shocked to see one or two 'Pop' songs by the end of the tour. :) HOPEFULLY as regulars, but even a rotation would be lovely. Discotheque's appearance last tour is a nice sign that they aren't done yet.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Rob of the leads york on September 17, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
id love anything from pop to be played especially in time for the recording of a concert dvd, mofo or IGWSHA or do you feel loved would be more than welcome but anything really its a great album and shouldnt be left in the cold :D
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: p8ru2 on September 17, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
I think some songs from POP would fit very well rotated into the setlist and setting if they're into it:  Mofo, Discotecque, Staring, Please, Do You Feel Loved, Gone.  ( anything but Miami & Playboy M as Unknown Caller said)

That said, I think its obvious they're trying to satisfy both hardcore and casual fans and in a stadium setting & while I got a lot of standards & warhorses I wasn't remotely disappointed.  Just the opposite actually!  I totally rocked out and enjoyed myself.  Sure, I'd love to have heard Stay and more NLOTH and any number of other songs but I feel blessed to have witnessed and shared yet another great concert with them.  8)  Life could be so much worse....  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Discotheque Girl on September 17, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
WE WANT POP!
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: The Unknown Caller on September 17, 2009, 10:43:08 AM
Incidentally, words alone cannot describe how PERFECT the disco-ball and the many, many coloured lights on the Claw would be for Discotheque!  :D
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: StrongGirl on September 17, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
I still think we'll hear If God Will Send His Angels at some point.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: U2alwaysforever on September 17, 2009, 12:03:45 PM
Elvis Costello did Please 2 nights ago, and 2 shots of happy (God Angel B side) played 2nd time ever, there's hope! Please acoustic was probably the best rarity of this decade.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: aurabender on September 18, 2009, 01:25:37 PM
If they can blow the dust off of "Your Blue Room," which is not even technically from a U2 disk, then surely they can play at least one song from POP. In his interview recorded last year with Rolling Stone, Bono spoke very highly of both Pop and Zooropa. Check out the podcast. And the stage creis out desperately for some Pop music.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: InThisHeartland on September 18, 2009, 01:46:40 PM
In both senses, definitely.

1.) I am hot and thirsty, so I would like to drink some soda
2.) I also really like the last 90s U2 album, and it would be great live.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: U2LA on September 18, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
Maybe they will play one at the Vegas show to make up for such a crappy performance on opening night of the Popmart tour (which opened at the same stadium).
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: achtung jeff on September 18, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
I thought when I heard the first few bars and saw the funky faces & hand claps of I'll go Crazy, they were gonna do discotheque... Regardless, I immediately thought of POP.

I agree that the whole claw sh-bang lends itself to a few boom-chas. I also could maybe see perhaps a mashup of IGWSHA segue in there between Your Blue Room & Fez maybe... Dunno.

Bottom line: they could play the hokey-pokey for 2 hours if they wanted and I'd be stoked. Just being in the same zip code with them is pretty darn cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Boom Cha! on September 18, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
Gone will be played on this tour. I have a feeling.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Vervefloyd on September 20, 2009, 10:09:05 PM
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In the book U2 BY U2, the band have made public their dismay, regret, and criticism about Pop.  After that book was published, they embarked on the final leg of the Vertigo Tour.  Not a single Pop song was played.

Since there have been no reports of the band taking those words back, or disowning what was written in that book, I don't think they would play a song from an album which they regret releasing too soon and dub as unfinished.

While many internet forum fans would want Pop to be played live, those with a deeper appreciation for U2 would understand that it would be more enjoyable to hear U2 perform a song they really want to - as opposed to playing a phone-it-in version of a songs from an album they have despised over time and would probably perform half-heartedly.

Cheers,

J


Define phoning it in?  In my book that occurs when a song is played over and over again and played to death that it becomes too routine and passionless.  Pride and WOWY are definitions of phoning it in and 70,000 screaming fans can usually cover it up live, but it shows so painfully on the boots.  Phoning it in is when you do something because you feel you have to not cause you want to.  And the U2 on this tour is hovering dangerously on that line.  If U2 actually decided to play a POP song it wouldnt be phoning it it.  and it wouldn't be half-heartedly.  it would be ballsy and take commitment by the band since they are more challenging songs live. 
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Vervefloyd on September 20, 2009, 10:12:15 PM
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Elvis Costello did Please 2 nights ago, and 2 shots of happy (God Angel B side) played 2nd time ever, there's hope! Please acoustic was probably the best rarity of this decade.

and dirty day too.  i wonder if U2 was happy and took that as praise or if they were embarrased inside that elvis costello could just bang out two songs like that that U2 doesnt even play.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jjazznola on September 22, 2009, 12:09:52 AM
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While many internet forum fans would want Pop to be played live, those with a deeper appreciation for U2 would understand that it would be more enjoyable to hear U2 perform a song they really want to - as opposed to playing a phone-it-in version of a songs from an album they have despised over time and would probably perform half-heartedly.

Cheers,

J


I don't think it was the songs per se they did not like, just the mix and the way they sounded. They have talked about going in and re-doing the entire album. I for one wish they would play more of their interesting 90's works off of Achtung Baby, Pop & Zooropa. Also Hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me would be great! I'm going both nights in NJ but I'm not holding my breath!
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: globaljosh on September 22, 2009, 12:45:04 AM
I'd love some Pop!!!! Popmart was my favorite tour. Just today I was driving to the office, cranking my Popmart Tampa bootleg and wishing I had a time machine so I could go back and do Popmart all over again.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 22, 2009, 12:32:36 PM
While it is always nice to hope for the best when it comes to resuscitating the Pop songs from the playlist garbage bin, we should be more level-headed and realistic rather than delusional.

U2 are already in the middle of the tour and have hit their stride.  They won't be rehearsing any new songs this late in the ballgame.  Your Blue Room was only rehearsed to add something new for the US leg.  But given their busy schedules of traveling from one city to another, including TV and radio show guest appearances in the bigger cities, would they have time to practice a POP song and would their multimedia team have the graphics pre-programmed to that?

The very nature of this tour does not lend itself to easily adding new songs.  And if U2 will add new songs, chances are it will be a song they frequently play live and memorize without need of a lot of practice (NYD, UTEOTW, Mysterious Ways, Bad) or maybe just add a new album song to the setlist (Stand Up Comedy?) rather than re-learn a POP song.  It is just very unlikely.

While it is indeed amusing to read the requests for the POP songs, we all know that it is just a faint hope that borders on impossible wishful thinking.  Unless of course it will be a song done acoustic and the most likely candidate would be Staring At The Sun.  For the other songs, it is highly improbably and next to impossible.

Maybe for the third leg they can do that.  But definitely not in this leg.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: ABloodRedSky on September 22, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
There was a tiny bit of Mofo last night :)
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 22, 2009, 12:41:43 PM
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While it is always nice to hope for the best when it comes to resuscitating the Pop songs from the playlist garbage bin, we should be more level-headed and realistic rather than delusional.

While it is indeed amusing to read the requests for the POP songs



It's much more amusing to read someone with a Jon Bon Jovi avatar call anything by U2 garbage. It's also much more amusing to have that person telling us how to behave.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: p8ru2 on September 22, 2009, 03:57:01 PM
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There was a tiny bit of Mofo last night :)

I would love to hear Mofo & it would totally "fit" into the sound and feeling of this show!   8)  Cool you got a snippet of it! 
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: nolinehere on September 22, 2009, 08:56:13 PM
It's also amusing to watch trolls at work.

They cast, and there's always a bite.

Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: globaljosh on September 22, 2009, 10:16:46 PM
Well I'm amused. Aren't you guys?
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 23, 2009, 11:44:31 AM
I am very amused. Like I always say, "Consider the source." Especially when that source used to call himself the king of POP.  :D
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: beau99 on September 24, 2009, 02:42:51 AM
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While it is always nice to hope for the best when it comes to resuscitating the Pop songs from the playlist garbage bin, we should be more level-headed and realistic rather than delusional.

U2 are already in the middle of the tour and have hit their stride.  They won't be rehearsing any new songs this late in the ballgame.  Your Blue Room was only rehearsed to add something new for the US leg.  But given their busy schedules of traveling from one city to another, including TV and radio show guest appearances in the bigger cities, would they have time to practice a POP song and would their multimedia team have the graphics pre-programmed to that?

The very nature of this tour does not lend itself to easily adding new songs.  And if U2 will add new songs, chances are it will be a song they frequently play live and memorize without need of a lot of practice (NYD, UTEOTW, Mysterious Ways, Bad) or maybe just add a new album song to the setlist (Stand Up Comedy?) rather than re-learn a POP song.  It is just very unlikely.

While it is indeed amusing to read the requests for the POP songs, we all know that it is just a faint hope that borders on impossible wishful thinking.  Unless of course it will be a song done acoustic and the most likely candidate would be Staring At The Sun.  For the other songs, it is highly improbably and next to impossible.

Maybe for the third leg they can do that.  But definitely not in this leg.

Cheers,

J


Bold highlighted for emphasis, because The Edge disagrees with you.

They could very easily add a new song if they felt like it.
Title: SPOILER: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 24, 2009, 09:38:10 AM
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While it is always nice to hope for the best when it comes to resuscitating the Pop songs from the playlist garbage bin, we should be more level-headed and realistic rather than delusional.

U2 are already in the middle of the tour and have hit their stride.  They won't be rehearsing any new songs this late in the ballgame.  Your Blue Room was only rehearsed to add something new for the US leg.  But given their busy schedules of traveling from one city to another, including TV and radio show guest appearances in the bigger cities, would they have time to practice a POP song and would their multimedia team have the graphics pre-programmed to that?

The very nature of this tour does not lend itself to easily adding new songs.  And if U2 will add new songs, chances are it will be a song they frequently play live and memorize without need of a lot of practice (NYD, UTEOTW, Mysterious Ways, Bad) or maybe just add a new album song to the setlist (Stand Up Comedy?) rather than re-learn a POP song.  It is just very unlikely.

While it is indeed amusing to read the requests for the POP songs, we all know that it is just a faint hope that borders on impossible wishful thinking.  Unless of course it will be a song done acoustic and the most likely candidate would be Staring At The Sun.  For the other songs, it is highly improbably and next to impossible.

Maybe for the third leg they can do that.  But definitely not in this leg.

Cheers,

J


Bold highlighted for emphasis, because The Edge disagrees with you.

They could very easily add a new song if they felt like it.

Technically "She's the One" isn't a new song.  It's a cover.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 24, 2009, 10:41:54 AM
The schedules of the band and putting them together to relearn an old song is really what would make it pointless to add something new this late in the game.

The cover song was just something practiced with little fanfare, and no prepared visuals to accompany it or any special arrangement.  It was done just because they were playing in Springsteen country.

U2 have already put on a pretty big repertoire of songs to choose from in this tour, they usually just pluck it out from among what they have already done.  And if they learn something new to play, chances are it won't be from POP.

So to go back to the original topic - yes there are others who are thirsty for some POP in the 360 Tour, but don't expect that thirst to be quenched anytime soon.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 24, 2009, 10:43:50 AM
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The schedules of the band and putting them together to relearn an old song is really what would make it pointless to add something new this late in the game.

The cover song was just something practiced with little fanfare, and no prepared visuals to accompany it or any special arrangement.  It was done just because they were playing in Springsteen country.

U2 have already put on a pretty big repertoire of songs to choose from in this tour, they usually just pluck it out from among what they have already done.  And if they learn something new to play, chances are it won't be from POP.

So to go back to the original topic - yes there are others who are thirsty for some POP in the 360 Tour, but don't expect that thirst to be quenched anytime soon.

Cheers,

J



What about you? Are you thirsty for some POP on this tour?
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 24, 2009, 10:57:13 AM
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What about you? Are you thirsty for some POP on this tour?

It would be great to see U2 finally nail a good version of If God Will Send His Angels - something they failed to do in Popmart then gave up on it.  Nothing like those great chiming Edge guitar sounds.  But that is just wishful thinking, I doubt they will ever pull it off.

Cheers,

J
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 24, 2009, 11:02:54 AM
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What about you? Are you thirsty for some POP on this tour?

It would be great to see U2 finally nail a good version of If God Will Send His Angels - something they failed to do in Popmart then gave up on it.  Nothing like those great chiming Edge guitar sounds.  But that is just wishful thinking, I doubt they will ever pull it off.

Cheers,

J



I have to admit, that frustrated me a lot to hear them do the first few bars of that in San Diego and then shut it down.  If they do it on 360, it will probably be acoustic.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: kos4u2 on September 24, 2009, 01:53:45 PM
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There was a tiny bit of Mofo last night :)

Actually, since Bono kind of dislikes the Pop album, and quotes Poets a lot it was in my opinion more likely
a qoutation from William Butler Yeats' poem ''Before the World Was Made'.

It was the influence for Mofo I guess.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: The Unknown Caller on September 24, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
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The schedules of the band and putting them together to relearn an old song is really what would make it pointless to add something new this late in the game.

And yet they did it last tour for Discotheque, The First Time...
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Tumbling Dice on September 24, 2009, 03:28:13 PM
'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: jick on September 25, 2009, 11:31:00 PM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: The Unknown Caller on September 26, 2009, 05:15:12 AM
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Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

SNoozefests? The band think highly enough of both to have retained them into Elevation, and then to try and bring back Discotheque again in Vertigo, while the Edge has spoken very well of Gone. Nothing I've seen of either of these songs live has remotely indicated them to be 'snoozefests'- anything but.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: nolinehere on September 26, 2009, 10:01:47 AM
you're just being baited.

Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Achtung40Life on September 26, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
This late in the game? The tour isn't even half way over... actually it would be more accurate to say it's a third of the way through with.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: An Cat Dubh on September 26, 2009, 11:02:59 AM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

How on earth can you class these two songs as snoozefests? Gone was spellbinding on the Elevation tour, and Discotheque was fun on Vertigo.

The biggest snoozefest on this forum is reading all your posts rambling on about Pop and its songs. It's boring now Jick, you bring Pop up on EVERY thread regardless of the topic, we all know you hate it, just give it a rest. You will never changes fans of the album's minds' - if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't, End of story. There are many people who dislike ATYCLB & HTDAAB (your favorites) as much as you hate Pop, but they don't ramble on about it like you do.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: nolinehere on September 26, 2009, 11:07:01 AM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

How on earth can you class these two songs as snoozefests? Gone was spellbinding on the Elevation tour, and Discotheque was fun on Vertigo.

The biggest snoozefest on this forum is reading all your posts rambling on about Pop and its songs. It's boring now Jick, you bring Pop up on EVERY thread regardless of the topic, we all know you hate it, just give it a rest. You will never changes fans of the album's minds' - if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't, End of story. There are many people who dislike ATYCLB & HTDAAB (your favorites) as much as you hate Pop, but they don't ramble on about it like you do.

you just got baited, that's jick's intent, he doesn't care about a rational discussion



Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Joe G (Love You Like Mad Magazine) on September 26, 2009, 11:08:17 AM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

How on earth can you class these two songs as snoozefests? Gone was spellbinding on the Elevation tour, and Discotheque was fun on Vertigo.

The biggest snoozefest on this forum is reading all your posts rambling on about Pop and its songs. It's boring now Jick, you bring Pop up on EVERY thread regardless of the topic, we all know you hate it, just give it a rest. You will never changes fans of the album's minds' - if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't, End of story. There are many people who dislike ATYCLB & HTDAAB (your favorites) as much as you hate Pop, but they don't ramble on about it like you do.

The really ironic thing is that he really likes POP. So much so that on another board, he signed off as the King of POP.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: An Cat Dubh on September 26, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

How on earth can you class these two songs as snoozefests? Gone was spellbinding on the Elevation tour, and Discotheque was fun on Vertigo.

The biggest snoozefest on this forum is reading all your posts rambling on about Pop and its songs. It's boring now Jick, you bring Pop up on EVERY thread regardless of the topic, we all know you hate it, just give it a rest. You will never changes fans of the album's minds' - if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't, End of story. There are many people who dislike ATYCLB & HTDAAB (your favorites) as much as you hate Pop, but they don't ramble on about it like you do.

you just got baited, that's jick's intent, he doesn't care about a rational discussion





Yeah, I know. I'm just having a bad morning!  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: An Cat Dubh on September 26, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
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'Gone' is the obvious choice cut from POP, an effective rocker and quite easy for the band to rehearse.  It is I have always thought just a by the numbers sort of song and not really a highlight or centrepiece of a show if you remember the POP-MART and Elevation tours.  I would ideally like to see a great full band version of IGWSHA on the official DVD release though.

U2 seem to prefer staying away from the obvious.  Obvious for UF would be Bad yet they play UF.  From Achtung there are other songs that were more played in other tours yet they choose Ultraviolet.

Gone or Discotheque would be things that have been done in the past and proven to be snoozefests.  Not sure if U2 still have a POP song that can work the crowd.  But hey, I'd rather hear a decent song off POP (Staring At The Sun or IGWSHA) over Your Blue Room anytime.

How on earth can you class these two songs as snoozefests? Gone was spellbinding on the Elevation tour, and Discotheque was fun on Vertigo.

The biggest snoozefest on this forum is reading all your posts rambling on about Pop and its songs. It's boring now Jick, you bring Pop up on EVERY thread regardless of the topic, we all know you hate it, just give it a rest. You will never changes fans of the album's minds' - if you like it you like it, if you don't you don't, End of story. There are many people who dislike ATYCLB & HTDAAB (your favorites) as much as you hate Pop, but they don't ramble on about it like you do.

The really ironic thing is that he really likes POP. So much so that on another board, he signed off as the King of POP.

Interesting. The word troll comes to mind then!
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: Vervefloyd on September 26, 2009, 01:38:12 PM
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The schedules of the band and putting them together to relearn an old song is really what would make it pointless to add something new this late in the game.

The cover song was just something practiced with little fanfare, and no prepared visuals to accompany it or any special arrangement.  It was done just because they were playing in Springsteen country.

U2 have already put on a pretty big repertoire of songs to choose from in this tour, they usually just pluck it out from among what they have already done.  And if they learn something new to play, chances are it won't be from POP.

So to go back to the original topic - yes there are others who are thirsty for some POP in the 360 Tour, but don't expect that thirst to be quenched anytime soon.

Cheers,

J


"U2 have already put on a pretty big repertoire of songs to choose from in this tour," - and here is my biggest complaint about U2.  there repertoire of songs is tiny compared to their catalog.  for a band making this much money i'd say its pretty pathetic how few songs in their catalog they even attempt to play.  once a tour starts we know these songs from the 80's and 90's if not performed on night one will appear - NYD, Bad, ISHFWILF, Desire, Angel of Harlem, Mysterious Ways, UTEOTW, IWF and AIWIY.  So far IWF and AIWIY have not appeared but the others ones have.  It's like clockwork.  They return to what they trust the most.  Each tour will start with a few surprises - this time UV and TUF.  But after night one they are not surprises, instead they are regulars.  There is always one random insertion it seems later on in the tour like Your Blue Room and Miss Sarajevo.  Party Girl is always played nowadays about 2-3 times per tour.  And very little else.

If U2 could build this stage and NASA could land a spaceship on the moon, then U2 can surely learn songs on the road that arent old hat and the crew cam come up with a visual.  I mean they did write the songs themselves.  U2 might actually learn something about themselves.  As a musician you go through cycles where you are amazed at how you wrote that song and how great it sounds and then question the very song with "what was i thinking".  and then suddenly you rediscover it and say man i like that song.  U2's gut never gets involved in a live show.  you know over the course of a tour each band member has to have said hey I really like so and so song do you wanna give it a try.  if they don't think that than they aren't human.  there is something so very powerful about playing a song when you aren't 100% comfortable with it.  it gives it the edge and the chance for complete collapse.

so i was thinking this.  Last Night on Earth would make a beautiful acoustic piece for Bono and Edge to do.  It fits the mold where Edge gets to do some real noticeable background vocals whereas in some songs it kind blends with bono into one.  and so that brings me to the acoustic song of the night.  the easiest song to perform with little rehearsal.  and yet we get two songs rotated.  wow.  this is where they could be bringing in the real hidden gems.  we got the first time and wild horses last tour.  they could be doing so much with this segment with little work.
Title: Re: Anyone Else thirsty for some Pop on the 360??
Post by: markreed on September 26, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
don't feed the trolls!