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Title: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 01:45:49 PM
Which U2 tours have the best set-lists?

You may choose your top three.



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Post by: The Grave on March 26, 2011, 01:46:12 PM
Vertigo
360
Zoo TV
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Post by: YellowLedbetter on March 26, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Lovetown, Zoo TV, and Vertigo
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Post by: Miami66 on March 26, 2011, 02:07:48 PM
vertigo for sure... I'll do some more research... (by that I mean I'll ask TUC)
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
I've gone for Zoo TV, PopMart and Elevation.

Zoo TV and PopMart had fairly static set-lists, even after taking into account the introduction of the Zooropa songs in 1993, and so it just goes to show that more varied set-lists or song rotation do not make the best set-lists.

One of the best things about Zoo TV, PopMart and Elevation is the band's commitment to the supporting album's material for the whole duration of the tour.


Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Rayford27 on March 26, 2011, 02:45:15 PM
I picked Elevation because of the overall flow of the setlist and because Bad was featured prominantly.

If they would have substituted Bad for Bullet the Blue Sky, then Vertigo would have been my favorite.   I just thought the block of LAPOE/SBS/BTBS was one-too-many loud, aggressive anti-war anthems in a row.
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Post by: EnduringChill on March 26, 2011, 02:45:32 PM
Zoo, Vertigo, PopMart (even though I voted JT but that was a mistake)
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Post by: A_Fly_On_The_Wall on March 26, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
In date order...

ZOO TV
Elevation
360
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 02:58:53 PM
I think Vertigo had some of the weakest set-lists.  One of the only things it had going for it was the inclusion of An Cat Dubh/Into the Heart, in the early part of the set, but even that highlight didn't remain a permanent fixture.  The sometimes, opening and closing with Vertigo is another negative.


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I just thought the block of LAPOE/SBS/BTBS was one-too-many loud, aggressive anti-war anthems in a row.
 

I agree.  That was too heavy.

Plus, the mid-section collection of HTDAAB numbers just seemed like they were lumped together.

The COBL and Vertigo opening double whammy was good (Though, not as good as Elevation and Beautiful Day) but even that was switched to the boring and predictable I Will Follow in the no. 2 spot after Vertigo.

 
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: THRILLHO on March 26, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
Zoo TV easily. I mean how friggin ballsy is it to, nightly, open the show with no less than EIGHT songs off the new album? THATS confidence in the material right there!

Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 03:17:48 PM
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Zoo TV easily. I mean how friggin ballsy is it to, nightly, open the show with no less than EIGHT songs off the new album? THATS confidence in the material right there!

It did take guts but then they did have the material to carry it off, which they haven't had ever since.  The thing is that at the time of the tour the 'new' songs seemed to me to be as familiar as anything of off The Joshua Tree, so it wasn't like "these are the new songs".  That tour really was Achtung Baby live, rather than U2: The Act.

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Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.

Deep cuts are what back catalogue bands do when they have more confidence in their past than in their current material.  Just like The Rolling Stones.


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Post by: THRILLHO on March 26, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
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Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.

Deep cuts are what back catalogue bands do when they have more confidence in their past than in their current material.  Just like The Rolling Stones.

I understand, but this is what will keep me going back honestly. This is more interesting to me then then ONLY playing the big hits. Honestly on the chance i see HMTMKMKM played live in Denver, that will be worth the drive from dallas
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 03:25:08 PM
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Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.

Deep cuts are what back catalogue bands do when they have more confidence in their past than in their current material.  Just like The Rolling Stones.

I understand, but this is what will keep me going back honestly. This is more interesting to me then then ONLY playing the big hits. Honestly on the chance i see HMTMKMKM played live in Denver, that will be worth the drive from dallas

I bet the scenery is worth the drive as well.

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Post by: THRILLHO on March 26, 2011, 03:28:53 PM
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Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.

Deep cuts are what back catalogue bands do when they have more confidence in their past than in their current material.  Just like The Rolling Stones.

I understand, but this is what will keep me going back honestly. This is more interesting to me then then ONLY playing the big hits. Honestly on the chance i see HMTMKMKM played live in Denver, that will be worth the drive from dallas

I bet the scenery is worth the drive as well.



I've seen the scenery before, never seen HMTM live. Heh.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 03:43:30 PM
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Vertigo/360 cuz they returned to playin deep cuts on these. Yknow An Cat Dubh, TUF, Scarlett, OTH, Ultraviolet/HMTM, etc.

Deep cuts are what back catalogue bands do when they have more confidence in their past than in their current material.  Just like The Rolling Stones.

I understand, but this is what will keep me going back honestly. This is more interesting to me then then ONLY playing the big hits. Honestly on the chance i see HMTMKMKM played live in Denver, that will be worth the drive from dallas

I bet the scenery is worth the drive as well.



I've seen the scenery before, never seen HMTM live. Heh.

I think I'd rather see the scenery.

Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: satellitedog01 on March 26, 2011, 04:40:32 PM
ZooTV
Popmart: first 2 legs with Miami, because of the Pop songs and the great flow)
Vertigo: pretty varied strongly rock oriented setlists and they played Zoo Station, the Fly and Mysterious Ways too, so it was a decent try.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 26, 2011, 05:19:23 PM
Huh. ZooTV winning. PopMart second.

Guess that means despite all the high-minded talk, we actually don't care much about setlist variety. (Given that on the last leg of ZooTV, they played the same setlist every single night in a row, including where they played twice in the same city) We just all want them to play the songs we, personally, like.

There's a shock.  ;)
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: satellitedog01 on March 26, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
This comes down to the greatness of the new songs which they kept in the setlist mostly all throughout the tours. The hits were also somewhat tweaked on both ZooTV and Popmart, to make them fit the setting easier. The setlists had it easier too, as the the themes were more focused/intense and the band's energy level was altogether higher.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 26, 2011, 05:30:52 PM
I remain incredibly sceptical anytime anyone talks about the 'theme' of u2 tours given that U2 has never, ever done a tour where the theme was not abandoned for a minimum of three quarters of the show.
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Post by: horizon on March 26, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
PopMart, 360 and Zoo TV
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Post by: satellitedog01 on March 26, 2011, 05:53:26 PM
I cannot agree there TUC. Although some of the songs were lyrically completely unrelated to the themes of the tour, '90s U2 music was full of desperate yearning and confusion and personal lyrics, and besides Pride the regularly played '80s tracks were similar in emotion and energy and felt at home with the setting (Pride stuck out to me, and ISHF... on some occasions too. The funloving Angel of Harlem worked just because Throw Your Arms was a similarly silly tune)

 '00s U2 left much of the doubt and confusion out of their live equation and brought in hope, faith and unity as a general theme. The desperately passionate songs don't really work anymore for me, as I know they aren't performed by the same people anymore. They sound like perfectionist covers.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: An Cat Dubh on March 26, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
Lovetown. They had about 10 different setlist that they rotated.

However, for overall quality, ZooTV (before the Zooropa songs showed up)
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Post by: satellitedog01 on March 26, 2011, 06:11:44 PM
Lovetown was a really great tour, but they didn't have the '90s songs yet... :-D
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Post by: jick on March 26, 2011, 06:21:48 PM
Almost all the tours post-POP had decent setlists.

The older U2 get, the more choices they have for their 2-hour set.

This tour was pretty good with all the ATYCLB songs.

Cheers,

J
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Post by: Rayford27 on March 26, 2011, 07:24:40 PM
ZooTV was very good too... (with 9-10 songs from Achtung Baby, you can't go wrong!)

The Bullet/Running/Streets/Pride/Still grouping was awesome, and the transition from Running into Streets is probably the best one they've ever done.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 26, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
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ZooTV was very good too... (with 9-10 songs from Achtung Baby, you can't go wrong!)

The Bullet/Running/Streets/Pride/Still grouping was awesome, and the transition from Running into Streets is probably the best one they've ever done.

Bullet/RTSS/Streets is my all time favourite live song sequence, along with the Paint it Black/2000 Light Years from Home/Sympathy for the Devil sequence on the Stones 89/90 Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle tour.


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Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on March 26, 2011, 08:53:25 PM
Lovetown.

I'm at the point where I probably would be satisfied with a Lovetown set right now without anything post-Rattle And Hum. 

I saw ZOO TV indoors and outdoors and was blown away like everyone else, but I don't find myself going back to those songs live like I do with Lovetown.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Droo on March 26, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
ZooTV: Achtung Baby and Zooropa albums. 'Nuff said.

Vertigo: Unexpected resurrections of Boy classics An Cat Dubh/Into The Heart, The Ocean, and The Electric Co, as well as The First Time, Gloria, Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses, and although it was only performed twice, an amazing version of Discotheque.

360 Tour: Where to start? Ultraviolet, The Unforgettable Fire, Scarlet, Your Blue Room, No Line On The Horizon, Stay, Every Breaking Wave, North Star, Moment of Surrender, Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me. Stunning.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: hurricane hugo on March 26, 2011, 10:44:07 PM
in this order:

Elevation
Vertigo
Pop

#@!
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Post by: MarsGirl on March 26, 2011, 11:39:17 PM
Has anyone ever listened to a TUF bootleg?! That set list was great!! :P I cant be the only one to think so!!
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on March 26, 2011, 11:44:34 PM
360
Vertigo
Elevation

easily
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Exile on March 27, 2011, 12:02:52 AM
The hard thing for me about these questions is that you can't really compare ISHF on Popmart with the same song on 360. Since they didn't play it all that much on ZooTV, hearing it on Popmart was pretty cool, even though it was ten years old at the time. But now the song is 24 years old, which makes it much less exciting to hear, especially if you've attended all the tours since '97.

There's almost no way to compare setlists that span such a long time.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 12:28:06 PM
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The hard thing for me about these questions is that you can't really compare ISHF on Popmart with the same song on 360. Since they didn't play it all that much on ZooTV, hearing it on Popmart was pretty cool, even though it was ten years old at the time. But now the song is 24 years old, which makes it much less exciting to hear, especially if you've attended all the tours since '97.

There's almost no way to compare setlists that span such a long time.

In that sense, there's almost no way to compare *songs* that span such a long time or indeed, compare the original studio recordings with their live incarnations.


Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: xy on March 27, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Vertigo and Lovetown.

Popmart a distand third...for the flow, not the varitey.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 01:32:48 PM
I voted PopMart first because even though I prefer the ZooTV *Tour*, I prefer PopMart setlists. ZooTV has a VERY strong opening and a very strong close with a somewhat weak middle in my opinion- the section on the B-Stage just before Bullet, which frequently featured R&H songs/acoustic songs. Although it DOES have the intense RTSS/Streets and later, the spine-tingling Lemon/WOWY.

I think the PopMart setlist is almost perfect from start to finish. It flows magnificently, it has some of the best transitions in U2 live history, (Mofo/IWF, Acoustic SBS/Bullet/Please/Streets) the Pop material is fantastic... in particular, the encores were flawless.

With those two decided, it was a struggle for my third favourite between the three 2000s tours. Ultimately, I think the 360 Tour has probably had the best setlists of the 2000s just because of the AMAZING flow that the band have nailed- while it may be 'boring' for a lot of hardcores, it's pretty much impossible to fault the show from City of Blinding Lights onwards in terms of setlist cohesion and flow, and they now have the start down pretty great too. Vertigo featured the best range of songs, but it wasn't as tightly structured, and the Elevation Tour is AMAZING but I don't think that's due to the setlists, which are fairly standard fare.
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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
See, I strongly disagree with you on the post-CoBL part of 360, at least for the leg I saw them on. After Crazy Tonight and the shift to political, I felt the show landed with a thud. Sunday Bloody Sunday, MLK and Walk On just came off as preachy, annoying, and dull to me.

It definitely picks up again in the encore, when it goes back to personal.
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 01:56:51 PM
Fair enough! When I first saw it, they had Pride to transition between SBS and MLK and I personally thought that flowed better than it does without it. But for me the shift from Crazy to SBS is a highlight of the show, although my enthusiasm for Walk On has dimmed as the show has gone on!
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
The LAPOE/SBS/Bullet/Miss Sarajevo/Pride/Streets/Speech/One sequence bored the life out of me.



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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 02:05:44 PM
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Fair enough! When I first saw it, they had Pride to transition between SBS and MLK and I personally thought that flowed better than it does without it. But for me the shift from Crazy to SBS is a highlight of the show, although my enthusiasm for Walk On has dimmed as the show has gone on!

I think the Crazy Tonight remix was THE highlight of my show, and that SBS suffers following it because it goes from this big danceable good time to this preachy, overly familiar schtick from Bono to a song that has outstayed its welcome on U2 setlists by about ten years at least. MLK was off key and Walk On was boring AND creepy with the masks.

My audience actually seemed to get noticeably hostile/negative during the SBS/MLK/Walk On segment.

The idea of the monstrosity that is Pride being added to the segment is my own personal version of Hell. All I can say is that Scarlet alone will save this segment for me on the next leg.
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
Well, as I said, it's all going to vary wherever you are. I wasn't that impressed by Sunday Bloody Sunday in Turin- but in Paris it was EASILY one of the highlights of the show as the crowd went insane and Bono got 95,000 French people singing "Get Up, Stand Up" for the Roma just after there was a deportation order for them in France. It was a really intense, magical moment- and I speak as someone for whom SBS generally *has* gotten old long ago!
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
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ZooTV has a VERY strong opening and a very strong close with a somewhat weak middle in my opinion- the section on the B-Stage just before Bullet, which frequently featured R&H songs/acoustic songs. Although it DOES have the intense RTSS/Streets and later, the spine-tingling Lemon/WOWY.

The B stage section was inspired, as was the song selection in that section.  Satellite of Love was a goosebumps moment.
 
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I think the PopMart setlist is almost perfect from start to finish. It flows magnificently, it has some of the best transitions in U2 live history, (Mofo/IWF, Acoustic SBS/Bullet/Please/Streets) the Pop material is fantastic... in particular, the encores were flawless.

You failed to mention Miami in that cool as **** sequence.  Bullet was arranged for that tour to mirror Miami.

I also don't think they worked in the hits in the PopMart set-list as effectively as in Zoo TV's.  The hits didn't intrude on the new music on Zoo TV as much as PM.



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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
The audience/venue probably does have a major impact. My audience was just generally bad. They ignored the NLOTH songs and setlist rarities. They even complained during Ultraviolet!

TD: Ugh. I thought Satellite of Love was brutal. I was glad when it was over and they got on into Dirty Day.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 02:18:40 PM
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The B stage section was inspired, as was the song selection in that section.  Satellite of Love was a goosebumps moment.

To each their own! I have obviously never seen it while you have, but I don't particularly like that section, or indeed that song!

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You failed to mention Miami in that cool as **** sequence.  Bullet was arranged for that tour to mirror Miami.


To be honest, I think Miami is U2's worst song ever committed to record and is even worse live, hence why I omitted it!  :D

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The audience/venue probably does have a major impact. My audience was just generally bad. They ignored the NLOTH songs and setlist rarities. They even complained during Ultraviolet!

Yeah, I know what you mean. My audiences ranged wildly- one of the nights in Dublin they sang along to Stay and kept up the "Oh-oh-oh"s after he finished, so that Bono had to stop talking, which was awesome- Stay, of all songs! In a stadium of 80,000! But the exact same night, to my eternal chagrin, my stand sat down when they heard the start of Streets. -_-
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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 02:21:02 PM
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To be honest, I think Miami is U2's worst song ever committed to record and is even worse live, hence why I omitted it!  :D

No, that would be Unknown Caller or The Refugee. ;)
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
Or Scarle-

No, I'm just teasing you!  :D
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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 02:24:09 PM
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Or Scarle-

No, I'm just teasing you!  :D

You'd better be. I was just about to become a lot less civil. ;)
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Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 02:24:46 PM
I do think of Scarlet as more of an interlude than a song, but there are an awful lot of pieces I find worse, don't worry!  :D
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Post by: Droo on March 27, 2011, 02:27:10 PM
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I do think of Scarlet as more of an interlude than a song, but there are an awful lot of pieces I find worse, don't worry!  :D

It kind of is, but it's a hell of an interlude. It's not a "song" like Zooropa, CoBL, or their other big "epic" songs, but it sure has emotional weight to me.
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Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on March 27, 2011, 03:07:53 PM
Sunday Bloody Sunday was THE highlight of my show (Boston 1).  It turned a somewhat dull crowd into 80,000 people dancing and screaming/singing their hearts out.  EASILY the best song of the night in terms of crowd reaction and the band played it to perfection.  They were so into it.  The crowd was even singing loudly for the Rock The Casbah snippet
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: SuperAcrobat on March 27, 2011, 04:18:58 PM
Elevation
PopMart
The Joshua Tree


ZooTV/Zooropa setlists is a runner up.
And while i'm here i'd like to point out that I think some of the Vertigo tour setlists are just horrible. Love and Peace or Else is not a song to open U2 shows, and Kite is not one that should close them. :P
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Post by: SuperAcrobat on March 27, 2011, 04:20:46 PM
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Elevation
PopMart
The Joshua Tree


ZooTV/Zooropa setlists is a runner up.
And while i'm here i'd like to point out that I think some of the Vertigo tour setlists are just horrible. Love and Peace or Else is not a song to open U2 shows, and Kite is not one that should close them. :P
But then again some of them were pretty nice. :) City of Blinding lights is an AWESOME opener!
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Exile on March 27, 2011, 04:58:46 PM
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The hard thing for me about these questions is that you can't really compare ISHF on Popmart with the same song on 360. Since they didn't play it all that much on ZooTV, hearing it on Popmart was pretty cool, even though it was ten years old at the time. But now the song is 24 years old, which makes it much less exciting to hear, especially if you've attended all the tours since '97.

There's almost no way to compare setlists that span such a long time.

In that sense, there's almost no way to compare *songs* that span such a long time or indeed, compare the original studio recordings with their live incarnations.




Exactly my point. Think of what NYD represented on the ZooTV tour when it came on the heels of 6 or 7 new '90s songs versus what it represents on 360 today.
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Post by: Starman on March 27, 2011, 05:00:34 PM
ZooTV
PopMart
360


By the way, why do people always call the Zooropa leg of the ZooTV tour the Zooropa tour? It wasn't the Zooropa Tour, it was the LEG of the ZOOTV TOUR!!!!
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Post by: An Cat Dubh on March 27, 2011, 05:02:31 PM
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ZooTV
PopMart
360


By the way, why do people always call the Zooropa leg of the ZooTV tour the Zooropa tour? It wasn't the Zooropa Tour, it was the LEG of the ZOOTV TOUR!!!!

Well, it was called Zooropa, according the the tour program and posters I have anyways! Oh, my old ticket stubs say Zooropa too.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 05:05:17 PM
Yes, it was officially called the Zooropa tour.



Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Starman on March 27, 2011, 05:06:57 PM
But what about the fact that it was the same tour as ZooTV except for some Zooropa songs? It had the same stage and the ZooTV sign and the trabants....even the concert video is called ZooTV (even though it was filmed on the Zoomerang leg).

And look! The poster says ZooTV Tour!! (Followed by Zooropa '93, of course)

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Post by: An Cat Dubh on March 27, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
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But what about the fact that it was the same tour as ZooTV except for some Zooropa songs? It had the same stage and the ZooTV sign and the trabants....even the concert video is called ZooTV (even though it was filmed on the Zoomerang leg)

Yes it was all the technically Zoo TV tour, but they did 'officially' name the different legs of the tour. No one is right or wrong here, but I saw both, I do not count my shows as all Zoo TV, I saw the Zoo TV tour and the Zooropa tour.

All part of U2's most exciting, creative and daring period. The tour continually evolved as it went along, it was amazing to witness.
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Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 05:13:26 PM
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But what about the fact that it was the same tour as ZooTV except for some Zooropa songs? It had the same stage and the ZooTV sign and the trabants....even the concert video is called ZooTV (even though it was filmed on the Zoomerang leg)

It's just a formal title that sounded good, in Europe; helped promote their newly released album; and reflected the fact that they were now playing songs from Zooropa.  

Nothing much changed except the set-lists, marginally, and the introduction of the MacPhisto character.

 
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Starman on March 27, 2011, 05:16:25 PM
Yeah, this is true. It just confuses me sometimes. Oh well!

Speaking of MacPhisto's intro, I love Daddy's Gonna Pay opening that part instead of Desire (though Desire sounded awesome on ZooTV, all Hollywood Remix-esque)
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Tumbling Dice on March 27, 2011, 05:26:11 PM
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Yeah, this is true. It just confuses me sometimes. Oh well!

Speaking of MacPhisto's intro, I love Daddy's Gonna Pay opening that part instead of Desire (though Desire sounded awesome on ZooTV, all Hollywood Remix-esque)

Desire was really Mirror Ball Man's song after all and Mr Mac had to wait till Oz before he got his own.

As much as Bad, Ultraviolet and Desire were integral songs during a Zoo TV show, I do sometimes wish, in hindsight, that we European stadium fans got the Zooropa show that the Australians, New Zealanders and Japanese got.  I mean, I got Babyface but it was no substitute for Dirty Day, Lemon or DGPFYCC.  Not that I was complaining at the time.



Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: EnduringChill on March 27, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
I wish we could see a Zoo TV show fron the Outside Broadcast leg... it was so, so different then... and I like DGPFYCC as an opening for MacPhisto to sing better than Desire but Ultraviolet instead of LEMON! is much better... :)
Might as well say what I like about the setlists I picked, Zoo is my favorite (six AB songs, then BAM! New Year's Day, WTH?) but PopMart=the best, because all the first songs were from Pop and Achtung Baby. Way to keep it recent and rocking. And Vertigo because a few songs from Boy were played again which is really amazing. Though I really don't know much about that tour. Okay, randomness over now...
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: THRILLHO on March 27, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
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I wish we could see a Zoo TV show fron the Outside Broadcast leg... it was so, so different then... and I like DGPFYCC as an opening for MacPhisto to sing better than Desire but Ultraviolet instead of LEMON! is much better... :)
Might as well say what I like about the setlists I picked, Zoo is my favorite (six AB songs, then BAM! New Year's Day, WTH?) but PopMart=the best, because all the first songs were from Pop and Achtung Baby. Way to keep it recent and rocking. And Vertigo because a few songs from Boy were played again which is really amazing. Though I really don't know much about that tour. Okay, randomness over now...

see, i just realized we have 2 opportunities in the near future for Zoo TV legs with the AB and Zooropa DE's coming out. I'm sure OutBroad will be on the Zooropa dvd.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: The Unknown Caller on March 27, 2011, 07:08:12 PM
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I wish we could see a Zoo TV show fron the Outside Broadcast leg... it was so, so different then... and I like DGPFYCC as an opening for MacPhisto to sing better than Desire but Ultraviolet instead of LEMON! is much better... :)
Might as well say what I like about the setlists I picked, Zoo is my favorite (six AB songs, then BAM! New Year's Day, WTH?) but PopMart=the best, because all the first songs were from Pop and Achtung Baby. Way to keep it recent and rocking. And Vertigo because a few songs from Boy were played again which is really amazing. Though I really don't know much about that tour. Okay, randomness over now...

see, i just realized we have 2 opportunities in the near future for Zoo TV legs with the AB and Zooropa DE's coming out. I'm sure OutBroad will be on the Zooropa dvd.

It would be very odd to have Outside Broadcast on Zooropa rather than on Achtung Baby, surely? Since it wasn't even out at the time? If any show is going to be on Zooropa, then surely it would be from... well, the Zooropa leg? I'm not that optimistic for a full DVD though- I think the best we may get is just Sydney packaged in with one of them. Remember, The Unforgettable Fire is a much 'bigger' album than Zooropa and it didn't get any full concert. I doubt Zooropa will get a DVD with it- it'll get the Boy/War/October treatment IMO.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: Bads316 on March 28, 2011, 04:08:06 AM
ZOOTV
PopMart
Elevation
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: THRILLHO on March 28, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
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I wish we could see a Zoo TV show fron the Outside Broadcast leg... it was so, so different then... and I like DGPFYCC as an opening for MacPhisto to sing better than Desire but Ultraviolet instead of LEMON! is much better... :)
Might as well say what I like about the setlists I picked, Zoo is my favorite (six AB songs, then BAM! New Year's Day, WTH?) but PopMart=the best, because all the first songs were from Pop and Achtung Baby. Way to keep it recent and rocking. And Vertigo because a few songs from Boy were played again which is really amazing. Though I really don't know much about that tour. Okay, randomness over now...

see, i just realized we have 2 opportunities in the near future for Zoo TV legs with the AB and Zooropa DE's coming out. I'm sure OutBroad will be on the Zooropa dvd.

It would be very odd to have Outside Broadcast on Zooropa rather than on Achtung Baby, surely? Since it wasn't even out at the time? If any show is going to be on Zooropa, then surely it would be from... well, the Zooropa leg? I'm not that optimistic for a full DVD though- I think the best we may get is just Sydney packaged in with one of them. Remember, The Unforgettable Fire is a much 'bigger' album than Zooropa and it didn't get any full concert. I doubt Zooropa will get a DVD with it- it'll get the Boy/War/October treatment IMO.

That's my bad i thought OutBroad was the Zooropa album leg of the tour. Anyways yea i just want a full arena Zoo TV show on the AB dvd, surely we'll get THAT much right? I mean UF wasn't exactly setting the music scene on fire the way AB was, i dont think. Yea you're right Zooropa will be in the style of the first 3 album DE's.
Title: Re: Poll: U2 Tours With The Best Set-Lists
Post by: mrsamrocks2 on March 28, 2011, 09:50:30 PM
Zoo TV
Popmart
360 (2009)