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Title: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 01:58:06 PM
Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 02:01:34 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

A really, really silly argument since some of those songs - certainly the Fly at the very least- were only played on 360 in rehearsal for Glastonbury.

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Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?


Stay was a surprise to most people. Moment of Surrender was a surprise to most people. Bad was a surprise to most people. UTEOTW was a surprise to most people. (Note I'm emphasising 'people', not U2 fans. Ending with Out of Control was a surprise to everyone.

For better or worse, Larry did not promise that you, TD, would personally be surprised at Glastonbury.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

A really, really silly argument since some of those songs - certainly the Fly at the very least- were only played on 360 in rehearsal for Glastonbury.


No it wasn't, any more than EBTTRT was.

(I see you're persisting with your customary condescending tone)


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 02:10:42 PM
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Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?


Stay was a surprise to most people. Moment of Surrender was a surprise to most people. Bad was a surprise to most people. UTEOTW was a surprise to most people. (Note I'm emphasising 'people', not U2 fans. Ending with Out of Control was a surprise to everyone.

For better or worse, Larry did not promise that you, TD, would personally be surprised at Glastonbury.

 :D :D :D

I think you should apply to U2 for a job as their PR officer when you leave university. 

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: mattressjedi on June 25, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Perhaps they had some more radical ideas for the show that then got tossed out at the last minute?

Or perhaps they were thinking about surprising the audience there with the AB songs but decided to debut them earlier on the 360 tour instead?

And if TUC should apply for a job at Principle Management Tumbling Dice needs to apply for a job at NME so he can constantly play the "I gotcha in a lie U2!" game?

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 02:39:43 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: So Cruel on June 25, 2011, 02:59:40 PM
It has been reported that the members of the band were in disagreement over the setlist. Maybe Larry wanted to throw in a few surprises and was outvoted?
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: emuhunter on June 25, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
Seriously Tumbling Dice, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOU TO BE HAPPY WITH THE BAND??

You've become the new Jick apparently.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Grave on June 25, 2011, 03:09:18 PM
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Seriously Tumbling Dice, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOU TO BE HAPPY WITH THE BAND??

You've become the new Jick apparently.
:D
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:09:57 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: fardreamer on June 25, 2011, 03:13:50 PM
Not sure why I'm bothering...

To the casual  music fan (IE: the Glasto crowd) I'm sure there were tons of surprises.  Those of us who obsess (like most of us here) about what U2 play every night were not surprised. 

I cannot believe that you can't figure this out on your own.  This topic and your comments in other threads lead me to believe that you're just trying to troll.

Officially bored with this.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:16:15 PM
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Not sure why I'm bothering...

To the casual  music fan (IE: the Glasto crowd) I'm sure there were tons of surprises.  Those of us who obsess (like most of us here) about what U2 play every night were not surprised. 

I cannot believe that you can't figure this out on your own.  This topic and your comments in other threads lead me to believe that you're just trying to troll.

Officially bored with this.

You and me both.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: fardreamer on June 25, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
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You and me both.

Then get over it and move on. 

No one forced you to watch the Glasto show.

I'm tired of the carping.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:23:29 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: xy on June 25, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
The Glasto audience not in the know was IMO surprised by the Zoo TV 5 songs attack at the start.

U2 fans ? Bad and moreso Out of control.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: fardreamer on June 25, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
And it never occured to you that Fly, Real Thing and OOC were introduced into 360 with the express purpose of having them ready for Glasto?  ::)

You don't think UTEOTW, Stay, Bad and MOS were risky songs to play to people who arn't U2 fans?

You don't think playing One and Streets so early was a bit of a risk?

You don't think the casual music listener wasn't thrown by the Zoo TV opening?

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:33:34 PM
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And it never occured to you that Fly, Real Thing and OOC were introduced into 360 with the express purpose of having them ready for Glasto?  ::)

They weren't.

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You don't think UTEOTW, Stay, Bad and MOS were risky songs to play to people who arn't U2 fans?

No

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You don't think playing One and Streets so early was a bit of a risk?

No

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You don't think the casual music listener wasn't thrown by the Zoo TV opening?

What should they have expected?


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:34:53 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?

Well, of course they are; they were performed on the 360 tour.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 03:36:39 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?

Well, of course they are; they were performed on the 360 tour.
:D :D :D


It must kill you that deep, treasured album cuts like Mothers, Zooropa, Scarlet, The Fly, Your Blue Room, and Love Rescue Me have been tarnished forever as they are now permanently branded "360 songs"
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?

Well, of course they are; they were performed on the 360 tour.
:D :D :D


It must kill you that deep, treasured album cuts like Mothers, Zooropa, Scarlet, The Fly, Your Blue Room, and Love Rescue Me have been tarnished forever as they are now permanently branded "360 songs"

Why, because they played them on the 360 tour?

btw The Fly isn't a deep, treasured album cut.

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?

Well, of course they are; they were performed on the 360 tour.
:D :D :D


It must kill you that deep, treasured album cuts like Mothers, Zooropa, Scarlet, The Fly, Your Blue Room, and Love Rescue Me have been tarnished forever as they are now permanently branded "360 songs"

Why, because they played them on the 360 tour?

Yes, because they played them in the midst of greatest hits/nostalgia setlists on a stadium tour
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 03:59:11 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

I feared that Glasto would be just another night at the office and so it proved.  Only it was 4 songs short of a regular 360 show.

Where were the 'surprises' that Larry promised in his B.S interview with the Kiwi?

The Fly, One and Streets being played 5th and 6th, Stay, Bad, Moment of Surrender, and Out of Control

Jumbling up a 360 set-list (- 4 songs) is what you think Larry meant by 'surprises'?  ::)



The Fly (2 performances), Out of Control (2 performances), Stay (19 performances), and Bad (12 performances) have only combined for 35 performances all together on the 360 Tour, including only 14 performances combined in 2011.  Hardly a "360 setlist"

They are 360 songs, are they not?

They have been played on 360, but I would hardly call them "360 songs".  Would you call Electrical Storm, Spanish Eyes, Party Girl, or Mothers of the Disappeared "360 songs"?  If U2 came out and played Your Blue Room, North Star, Every Breaking Wave, Scarlet, and Zooropa, would you freak because they played 360 songs?

Well, of course they are; they were performed on the 360 tour.
:D :D :D


It must kill you that deep, treasured album cuts like Mothers, Zooropa, Scarlet, The Fly, Your Blue Room, and Love Rescue Me have been tarnished forever as they are now permanently branded "360 songs"

Why, because they played them on the 360 tour?

Yes, because they played them in the midst of greatest hits/nostalgia setlists on a stadium tour

I expect U2 to play their oldies during a nostalgia tour.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 04:01:04 PM
Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.



 
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 04:08:35 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:11:30 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past

Well, it all depends on how many songs from an artist's latest album that they play throughout the tour.  All U2's tours before Vertigo were not what I would call nostalgia tours.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 04:14:01 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past

Well, it all depends on how many songs from an artist's latest album that they play throughout the tour.  All U2's tours before Vertigo were not what I would call nostalgia tours.




The Elevation Tour only had 7 songs from ATYCLB that were played regulary
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:16:53 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past

Well, it all depends on how many songs from an artist's latest album that they play throughout the tour.  All U2's tours before Vertigo were not what I would call nostalgia tours.




The Elevation Tour only had 7 songs from ATYCLB that were played regulary

And all 7 were played, for the most part, for the full duration of the tour.

When the Rolling Stones Voodoo Lounge tour kicked off they were playing 7 songs from their new album, too.  And yet many U2 fans on this forum would call it a nostalgia tour.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: U2-obsessed and proud on June 25, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past

Well, it all depends on how many songs from an artist's latest album that they play throughout the tour.  All U2's tours before Vertigo were not what I would call nostalgia tours.




The Elevation Tour only had 7 songs from ATYCLB that were played regulary

And all 7 were played, for the most part, for the full duration of the tour.

When the Rolling Stones Voodoo Lounge tour kicked off they were playing 7 songs from their new album, too.  And yet many U2 fans on this forum would call it a nostalgia tour.

I feel that "nostalgia" and "greatest hits" are one in the same, thats why I can't call 360 a "nostalgia" tour.  I just can't
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
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Is it even possible to be nostalgic about Scarlet or Your Blue Room, songs never played in a concert setting  ???

A nostalgia tour is about nostalgia for an artists back catalogue and not necessarily nostalgia for songs an artist has performed on tour in the past.

So then every single U2 tour since the October Tour has been a nostalgia tour, as the number of songs being played from the supported album is less than the amount of songs being played from albums past

Well, it all depends on how many songs from an artist's latest album that they play throughout the tour.  All U2's tours before Vertigo were not what I would call nostalgia tours.




The Elevation Tour only had 7 songs from ATYCLB that were played regulary

And all 7 were played, for the most part, for the full duration of the tour.

When the Rolling Stones Voodoo Lounge tour kicked off they were playing 7 songs from their new album, too.  And yet many U2 fans on this forum would call it a nostalgia tour.

I feel that "nostalgia" and "greatest hits" are one in the same, thats why I can't call 360 a "nostalgia" tour.  I just can't
They are a meaningless distinction.

The terms nostalgia, greatest hits, back catalogue can all be used interchangably to describe the same thing.  


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 04:20:51 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

A really, really silly argument since some of those songs - certainly the Fly at the very least- were only played on 360 in rehearsal for Glastonbury.


No it wasn't, any more than EBTTRT was.




...Seriously?

It's a COMPLETE coincidence that The Fly first appeared on the 360 Tour after they began Glastonbury rehearsals?

....In the first half of a set looking suspiciously similar to the first half of Glastonbury?

...A week before Glastonbury?

...Wow. Okay. :)
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:26:53 PM
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Every song they played at Glastonbury were previously played songs from the 360 tour.

A really, really silly argument since some of those songs - certainly the Fly at the very least- were only played on 360 in rehearsal for Glastonbury.


No it wasn't, any more than EBTTRT was.




...Seriously?

It's a COMPLETE coincidence that The Fly first appeared on the 360 Tour after they began Glastonbury rehearsals?

....In the first half of a set looking suspiciously similar to the first half of Glastonbury?

...A week before Glastonbury?

...Wow. Okay. :)

I think you've got things ar*e about face- the first half of Glastonbury looks similar to the first half of their 360 shows.  But then when Glastonbury is just another show on the 360 tour (albeit with a truncated set) and nothing more, what do you expect?

The Michigan show will also have a similar first half to Glastonbury as well, and they will continue to play The Fly for most of the rest of the tour.


 
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 04:31:02 PM
No, that's not quite accurate. The first half of Glastonbury looks like the first half of the 360 tour suddenly switched to being less than a week before Glastonbury. It actually doesn't really look all that much in order like, say, the entire 360 Tour up until last week.

Now maybe that is indeed what they were always planning, and it's a total coincidence that Glasto was upcoming. Maybe. Because the idea that they were using the last two pre-Glastonbury gigs as rehearsals for it, hence the giant rejigging, is of course just way too out-there.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:36:38 PM
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No, that's not quite accurate. The first half of Glastonbury looks like the first half of the 360 tour suddenly switched to being less than a week before Glastonbury. It actually doesn't really look all that much in order like, say, the entire 360 Tour up until last week.

Now maybe that is indeed what they were always planning, and it's a total coincidence that Glasto was upcoming. Maybe. Because the idea that they were using the last two pre-Glastonbury gigs as rehearsals for it, hence the giant rejigging, is of course just way too out-there.

If that is indeed true, and it is only speculation, then it's a insult to their REAL U2 fans at those two pre-Glastonbury shows that they used them as a 'rehearsal' for THAT short sterile set last night at Glastonbury.  If THAT was a highlight performance during the 360 tour then I'm sure glad I didn't spend 150 a ticket to see them on this tour.  



Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
Aaah, so now you have decided to be offended on the behalf of fans who have not themselves expressed the slightest annoyance on these boards about their gigs being part setlist rehearsals of Glastonbury, even though it's obvious that that's what they've been.

Tell me, are you also offended for the people on Zoomerang who were used as rehearsals for ZooTV Live from Sydney? Oh, wait, no, hang on, I forgot, it's only a 'bl**dy insult' when you personally dislike the set.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 04:45:52 PM
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Aaah, so now you have decided to be offended on the behalf of fans who have not themselves expressed the slightest annoyance on these boards about their gigs being part setlist rehearsals of Glastonbury, even though it's obvious that that's what they've been.

Well, it's not *obvious* that that's what they've been.  You are merely speculating that that is the case.

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Tell me, are you also offended for the people on Zoomerang who were used as rehearsals for ZooTV Live from Sydney? Oh, wait, no, hang on, I forgot, it's only a 'bl**dy insult' when you personally dislike the set.

Again, fanciful speculation on your part.  The set-list on the 'Zoo TV Live from Sydney' recorded show was the same as the other shows on the Zoomerang leg.

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: hartroc on June 25, 2011, 04:55:07 PM
Tumbling Dice, I only have one question.

What WOULD you have been happy with?!?
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 04:57:00 PM
Everything is 'speculating' but when one speculation is 'They did a major revamp of the setlist after extensive rehearsals less than a week before Glastonbury' and the other is 'They rehearsed Glastonbury and got a plan, then they decided to change the 360 tour and by staggering coincidence, realised Glastonbury was later and changed their whole Glastonbury plan to accomodate to the new 360 set' then we can fairly safely say that one is plausible, and one... very, very unlikely.

And that is essentially your argument- that they decided on the Glastonbury setlist in its entirety some time between Saturday evening and Friday morning, despite the fact that Glastonbury rehearsals began months ago. Do you seriously, truly think that before those Glastonbury rehearsals, they were thinking "So, anyway, we're going to put The Fly into the set and reshuffle it to make an Achtung Baby opening, but let's not bother rehearsing it for a month or two, and let's create a completely different setlist in the meantime until we decide to do that one. And let's do that a week before Glastonbury."
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Zooropa Baby Pop on June 25, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
A psychedelic funk version of So Cruel
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:02:23 PM
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Tumbling Dice, I only have one question.

What WOULD you have been happy with?!?

A more energized, passionate, performance. 

Some improvisation from Bono. e.g physical interaction with the audience during Bad or UTEOTW, for example.

The performance of Glastonbury, the song they specifically wrote for this such occasion.

A special guest appearance.

Doing something special with a well-loved U2 song as a one-off for Glastonbury.

A much smaller GULF between the band up on high from the Glastonbury faithful.  And no army of security guards between the band and their audience.

In the final analysis, I can't do it for them, they are the performers and they have to do it, and last night they distinctly underwhelmed me.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
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Everything is 'speculating' but when one speculation is 'They did a major revamp of the setlist after extensive rehearsals less than a week before Glastonbury' and the other is 'They rehearsed Glastonbury and got a plan, then they decided to change the 360 tour and by staggering coincidence, realised Glastonbury was later and changed their whole Glastonbury plan to accomodate to the new 360 set' then we can fairly safely say that one is plausible, and one... very, very unlikely.

And that is essentially your argument- that they decided on the Glastonbury setlist in its entirety some time between Saturday evening and Friday morning, despite the fact that Glastonbury rehearsals began months ago. Do you seriously, truly think that before those Glastonbury rehearsals, they were thinking "So, anyway, we're going to put The Fly into the set and reshuffle it to make an Achtung Baby opening, but let's not bother rehearsing it for a month or two, and let's create a completely different setlist in the meantime until we decide to do that one. And let's do that a week before Glastonbury."

Eh  ???  I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
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Doing something special with a well-loved U2 song as a one-off for Glastonbury.


...Didn't Bono replace an entire verse of Bad with a full verse of 'Jerusalem'? O.o Not to mention 'Jerusalem' serving as the intro to Streets...

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Eh  ???  I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.




Glastonbury rehearsals began well over a month before the set reshuffle in Anaheim II, including The Fly. It's quite simply ludicrous to think that the Glastonbury setlist reflects recent 360 rather than the other way around when they had the Glastonbury plan in place and *THEN* included The Fly in the 360 set.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: hartroc on June 25, 2011, 05:10:43 PM
Hey, it's not like Bono and crew set up the stage...they didn't exactly have much say about the security guards and the chasm between the audience and band. Didn't you hear Larry complaining about it afterward?
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Starman on June 25, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Just look at my avi. That's all I'm going to say.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:25:29 PM
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Doing something special with a well-loved U2 song as a one-off for Glastonbury.


...Didn't Bono replace an entire verse of Bad with a full verse of 'Jerusalem'? O.o Not to mention 'Jerusalem' serving as the intro to Streets...

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Eh  ???  I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.




Glastonbury rehearsals began well over a month before the set reshuffle in Anaheim II, including The Fly. It's quite simply ludicrous to think that the Glastonbury setlist reflects recent 360 rather than the other way around when they had the Glastonbury plan in place and *THEN* included The Fly in the 360 set.

They also recorded in a theatre in Canada.  Do we know what they recorded?

They introduced The Real Thing and The Fly rather late in the tour to coincide with the upcoming promotion of the Achtung Baby remaster.  360 seems now to be promoting an album released 20 years ago than an album released 2 years ago.  And they will continue with the revamped set-list for the rest of the tour even though Glastonbury is now history.


 
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:27:29 PM
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Hey, it's not like Bono and crew set up the stage...they didn't exactly have much say about the security guards and the chasm between the audience and band. Didn't you hear Larry complaining about it afterward?

So, they were not in control of their show?  They had the staging, light show and visuals imposed on them?


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 05:30:41 PM
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They also recorded in a theatre in Canada.  Do we know what they recorded?

Well... yes.

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They introduced The Real Thing and The Fly rather late in the tour to coincide with the upcoming promotion of the Achtung Baby remaster.  360 seems now to be promoting an album released 20 years ago than an album released 2 years ago.  And they will continue with the revamped set-list for the rest of the tour even though Glastonbury is now history.


There was a HUGE gulf between EBTTRT and The Fly. EBTTRT debuted before the Glastonbury rehearsals, The Fly only after- and it openly first appeared in concert less than a week before!
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:41:02 PM
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They also recorded in a theatre in Canada.  Do we know what they recorded?

Well... yes.

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They introduced The Real Thing and The Fly rather late in the tour to coincide with the upcoming promotion of the Achtung Baby remaster.  360 seems now to be promoting an album released 20 years ago than an album released 2 years ago.  And they will continue with the revamped set-list for the rest of the tour even though Glastonbury is now history.


There was a HUGE gulf between EBTTRT and The Fly. EBTTRT debuted before the Glastonbury rehearsals, The Fly only after- and it openly first appeared in concert less than a week before!

You seem to think that the world revolves around the so-called Glastonbury rehearsals.  They obviously felt like introducing The Real Thing as a new show opener before introducing The Fly to the set at a later date.  It's called prioritizing.  They did the same for Zooropa- introducing Stay and Numb to the set before Dirty Day, Lemon and Daddy.

If the Glastonbury set was a special one-off and the shows before it were, insultingly, rehearsals for this special one-off, then we can all expect U2 to return to the pre-Anaheim 360 set for the remainder of the tour.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 05:43:37 PM
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If the Glastonbury set was a special one-off and the shows before it were, insultingly, rehearsals for this special one-off, then we can all expect U2 to return to the pre-Anaheim 360 set.




An absolutely ridiculous argument of 2+2 = 15. That's not even remotely logical- I may as well say that 'If the Glastonury set is just another run of the mill 360 set, then we can all expect U2 to play this second half at every set from hereonin and not play Zooropa, Miss Sarajevo, COBL, AIWIY...' Although mind you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the setlist *does* soon return to what it was pre-Anaheim anyway.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:53:07 PM
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If the Glastonbury set was a special one-off and the shows before it were, insultingly, rehearsals for this special one-off, then we can all expect U2 to return to the pre-Anaheim 360 set.


An absolutely ridiculous argument of 2+2 = 15. That's not even remotely logical-

In your ridiculous opinion.

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I may as well say that 'If the Glastonury set is just another run of the mill 360 set, then we can all expect U2 to play this second half at every set from hereonin and not play Zooropa, Miss Sarajevo, COBL, AIWIY...'

That's a ridiculous comparison. Glastonbury was not a run-of-the-mill 360 set because they only managed to play 19 songs, and so there's plenty of room to also play Zooropa, COBL, Miss Sarajevo, AIWIY for the remainder of the tour.

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Although mind you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the setlist *does* soon return to what it was pre-Anaheim anyway.

We shall see.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: truthsfate on June 25, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
TD,

Perhaps you should have jumped inside the U2 time machine, you know , the one that landed during IALW on the first leg of the tour. Maybe it would have taken you back to that special place where you were once truly happy about what U2 was offering. Your matter-of-fact objectivity has only served to stir controversy which is shallow and pretentious at best.

I truly enjoyed the Glasto performance not because it was groundbreaking or cutting-edge, but because it was a glimpse of what U2 were once capable of. Yes it's sad that they are not able to live up to what they have proved in the past. Sure it's easy to hang off of every quote or rumour or soundbite mentioned in forums such as these. We must remember that U2 are the artist and performer here, not our sycophant saturated expectations.

T.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 25, 2011, 05:59:23 PM
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TD,

Perhaps you should have jumped inside the U2 time machine, you know , the one that landed during IALW on the first leg of the tour. Maybe it would have taken you back to that special place where you were once truly happy about what U2 was offering. Your matter-of-fact objectivity has only served to stir controversy which is shallow and pretentious at best.

It's called openly expressing my opinion on a democratic fan forum.  If you don't like my opinions, may I suggest that you don't read my posts.

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I truly enjoyed the Glasto performance not because it was groundbreaking or cutting-edge, but because it was a glimpse of what U2 were once capable of. Yes it's sad that they are not able to live up to what they have proved in the past. Sure it's easy to hang off of every quote or rumour or soundbite mentioned in forums such as these. We must remember that U2 are the artist and performer here, not our sycophant saturated expectations.

T.

I respect your opinion.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
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TD,

Perhaps you should have jumped inside the U2 time machine, you know , the one that landed during IALW on the first leg of the tour. Maybe it would have taken you back to that special place where you were once truly happy about what U2 was offering. Your matter-of-fact objectivity has only served to stir controversy which is shallow and pretentious at best.

It's called openly expressing my opinion on a democratic fan forum.  If you don't like my opinions, may I suggest that you don't read my posts.




...It's really not a democratic fan forum, or else we would be able to state as binding that this is not a Greatest Hits or Nostalgia Tour and Stingray is a song, as indicated by democratic majorities! :P

(Kidding, by the way, obviously!  :D)
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: philip861 on June 25, 2011, 06:25:47 PM
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So, they were not in control of their show?  They had the staging, light show and visuals imposed on them?

TD, the whole point is that it wasn't "their" show. Glastonbury is a festival, not a 360 tour date. U2 are one of about 30 acts performing across the weekend, and like all the rest, have to work within the limitations and constraints of the venue. I have to admit that being used to their close proximity to the audience on the 360 tour, I found it odd to see the band so far away from the audience. But that's the way Glastonbury is set up, and there isn't much U2 (or any act) could do about it.

It seems to me that the performance was well received by the media and those at the show (not all of whom would have been U2 fans), while the reaction amongs die hards (such as ourselves) has been less enthusiastic. I think part of the reason for us being dissappointed is the fact that, unlike pre-Vertigo tours, we have seen (some fairly high quality) footage on YouTube from almost all dates on this tour. To some extent, the wow factor has been taken out of a U2 performance because we have seen most of it before, in many cases, more than once (lets not forget, the 360 tour is now in its third year!). The media and the casual/non-fans- who haven't been watching every step of the tour on YouTube- seem to have been impressed by the show the band put on. So I think us die hards have to re-evaluate our expectations before we come on here and proclaim our feelings of dissappointment and deflation.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Droo on June 25, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
Wow. Here I worried I was starting to be viewed as the negative nancy of the forum. I'm glad TD is around to make me look pleasant. :P

I was bored by the setlist and annoyed at the lack of surprises after U2.com and the band members themselves played up the "what will we play???" angle, but there's no arguing with the success of the gig. The audience responded well and almost every song they played is now on the iTunes sales charts, including startlingly high chart placements for Stay and Moment Of Surrender.

I think ultimately the gig was a success, albeit a somewhat boring one to watch for those of us already more than intimately familiar with the songs on the setlist.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 25, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Droo, where are you finding those figures- I can only find the top 100s, which don't have Stay or Moment! (Although U2 does have 4 out of the top 10 places in 'Top Rock Songs!' )
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Droo on June 25, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
The official spoiler thread. Someone went onto the UK iTunes chart and looked up the top Rock Songs and posted their positions. I'm merely repeating what he said.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: JTBaby on June 25, 2011, 06:55:17 PM
u2 doesn't have the musical chops to do what some people expect them to do.

That's obvious to anyone with an ear for music and/or who has followed the band for any length of time.

As for the "poor people" who had to suffer "Glastonbury rehearsals", why was the first such rehearsal widely praised by U2 fans everywhere.

For example, compare "std" set with the "poor rehearsal" reviews

Std set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/18/u2-masterful-but-not-magical-at-angel-stadium/53575/

"poor fans suffering a rehearsal" set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/19/u2-recaptures-the-magic-at-second-big-a-show/53637/
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: kango on June 25, 2011, 07:39:30 PM
Two songs from their debut album was a big surprise for me. Couldn't ask for much more from a show which needed a load of hits. Just 2 or 3 more to hammer it home would have been very nice.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Domenico of Lovetown on June 25, 2011, 07:49:18 PM
I have no idea what sort of audience they faced at Glastonbury or what kind of setlist one could expect at festival like this.

That said, I was thinking they might play a song or two that had either never been performed live or was played earlier in their career and hasn't been played since- a song like Acrobat or Drowning Man or Gloria or Promenade...
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: singnomore on June 26, 2011, 12:58:28 AM
Nothing like a good debate to keep everyone happy! Lots of good points - no need for the general irritation being shown - looks all like good logical arguments...and I'm sure it will stay that way  ;D

As for my view...well I think we do need to take into account its a one off show to non U2 fans in general. I guess the 2 shows before Glasto were 'rehearsals' in a way but hell I'd have loved those (non patronising) rehearsals at the European shows I was at.

Larry was definitely not happy at how far the crowd was from the band and declared that on the post gig interview on the BBC. Because of the type and stature of the acts booked, Michael Eavis sets fairly firm rules around what people can or cant do. By all accounts Bono and Larry had a last minute 'tiff' before getting on stage - maybe they were debating what colour of duct tape shall we use when Bono split his trousers (again!!)

This show was a big 'non U2 fan' deal - it was about taking on the tax protesters, it was about taking on all the Bono bashers, it was about showing the UK and the world we have great songs that we can play really well live as well. Much as I would have loved to have heard Gloria, the Electric Co, '40' etc it was never going to happen.

So for me - they played as if their lives depended upon it and pretty much nailed it. Lets hope the experience will make them think about new music and also touring going forward.

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: imedi on June 26, 2011, 08:07:04 AM
no real surprises which was a little dissapointing but as i did say in another thread before the show it was always going to be a tall order when they were right in the middle of the us tour. if they had 2 weeks to prepare a setlist we might have got a few rare gems
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Boom Cha! on June 26, 2011, 08:29:06 AM
There weren't any surprises.

The band did say awhile back that it'd be a show full of hits, so I'm not sure why Larry said there'd be surprises.

I figured the surprise would be a new song (it did show a hint at it in that video from u2.com), but maybe they changed their minds at the last minute.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Vervefloyd on June 26, 2011, 09:00:30 AM
So here's my confusion. You are playing to a non-U2 crowd who only know the hits from what gets played on the radio and these very hits were not enough to make them fans. Sure they know the words but come on some of the hits have very simple words where you know the next line almost the first time you hear the song. So then what is the point of playing so many hits.

Onto the argument of did they practice the Fly specifically for Glastonbury. Without a doubt U2 tested out the all AB intro for Glastonbury. This is a band that is terrified to try something out without extensive practice. And then somehow talks themselves out of a song because they feel it doesnt fit the set.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
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just to balance things out.  :P

;)

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Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Zooropa Baby Pop on June 26, 2011, 11:05:06 AM
 :D ??? :D ??? :o

officially the most random thing to ever occur on this forum.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: JTBaby on June 26, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
if you've followed u2 for any length of time and actually correlated what they say against what they actually do, you would know the Glastonbury set was par for the course.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: mrsamrocks2 on June 26, 2011, 11:24:22 AM
I think that even between the band members, there were still lots of disagreements even when they came on stage. I think that Larry and maybe Adam wanted it to be a little bit more risky than the two others.
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
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just to balance things out.  :P

;)

#@!

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:D ??? :D ??? :o

officially the most random thing to ever occur on this forum.

A big thick slice of cheese.

Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 26, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
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As for the "poor people" who had to suffer "Glastonbury rehearsals", why was the first such rehearsal widely praised by U2 fans everywhere.

For example, compare "std" set with the "poor rehearsal" reviews

Std set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/18/u2-masterful-but-not-magical-at-angel-stadium/53575/

"poor fans suffering a rehearsal" set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/19/u2-recaptures-the-magic-at-second-big-a-show/53637/

I didn't say the fans who witnessed the pre-glastonbury shows were "poor people" who had to "suffer" them.  And if the fans reviews of those shows were favourable then perhaps U2 had been playing the wrong set-list for too long and will now play the new improved set for the rest of the tour.


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: singnomore on June 26, 2011, 01:17:01 PM
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As for the "poor people" who had to suffer "Glastonbury rehearsals", why was the first such rehearsal widely praised by U2 fans everywhere.

For example, compare "std" set with the "poor rehearsal" reviews

Std set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/18/u2-masterful-but-not-magical-at-angel-stadium/53575/

"poor fans suffering a rehearsal" set

http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2011/06/19/u2-recaptures-the-magic-at-second-big-a-show/53637/

I didn't say the fans who witnessed the pre-glastonbury shows were "poor people" who had to "suffer" them.  And if the fans reviews of those shows were favourable then perhaps U2 had been playing the wrong set-list for too long and will now play the new improved set for the rest of the tour.




It will be interesting to see what they play tonight - see if that was a one off or whether they will go for it until the end of the tour in this format
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 26, 2011, 01:24:58 PM
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So, they were not in control of their show?  They had the staging, light show and visuals imposed on them?

TD, the whole point is that it wasn't "their" show. Glastonbury is a festival, not a 360 tour date. U2 are one of about 30 acts performing across the weekend, and like all the rest, have to work within the limitations and constraints of the venue. I have to admit that being used to their close proximity to the audience on the 360 tour, I found it odd to see the band so far away from the audience. But that's the way Glastonbury is set up, and there isn't much U2 (or any act) could do about it.

It didn't stop Bruce Springsteen from making physical contact with his audience at Glastonbury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS687iMrUvM&feature=related


Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: The Unknown Caller on June 26, 2011, 01:52:29 PM
The set-up in 2009 and the set-up in 2011 were not the same. Plus there's the major factor of the rain which reportedly made it almost impossible even to *walk* on the front part of the stage.

Really, these arguments do seem to be growing more and more.... baffling. Rather than casting vague insinuations, what are you actually saying? That Bono and Edge COULD have come closer to the audience but... chose not to? Why would they do that? O.o  Does that even make sense?
Title: Re: Where were the surprises Larry promised at Glastonbury?
Post by: Tumbling Dice on June 26, 2011, 01:57:27 PM
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The set-up in 2009 and the set-up in 2011 were not the same. Plus there's the major factor of the rain which reportedly made it almost impossible even to *walk* on the front part of the stage.

The slippery conditions is the only excusatory explanation.

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Really, these arguments do seem to be growing more and more.... baffling. Rather than casting vague insinuations, what are you actually saying?
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That Bono and Edge COULD have come closer to the audience but... chose not to? Why would they do that?
O.o  Does that even make sense?

They were probably terrified of getting thumped.